F*** Off All Microsoft Users

In article ,
kurttrail wrote:

Oh please! I have more problems with Microsoft, on a daily basis, than
you'll see in a life time.

That is a strange and wildly inaccurate assumption to make. Many Acorn
and RISC OS users also have wide experience, often on a daily basis, of
other OSes.

The convention is set up so it's harder to use
the msnews servers to spam other groups.

Doesn't appear to work to well then does it.

And MS already canceled your imposter post telling us all to "F*ck off."

So you keep telling us and I am sure that most of us are really glad that
was so.

snipped nonsense about balls and courts

Lionel

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Lionel Smith wrote:

In article ,
kurttrail wrote:

I am the one that is of the opinion that there is no such thing as
"correct posting." It's a matter of personal preference, PERIOD!

Ah! That is why you are getting in such a lather. ;-)

Why yes! I will never stop ridiculing those that wish to impose their
values on others. I'll continue stand up for those that are being oppressed
by others, until I take my very last breath.

No matter what depths you are willing to sink to, I ain't afraid to get
dirty fighting the likes of you, and your group of scumbag spammers, Trolls,
and nut cases.

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"Lionel Smith" wrote in message
...
A matter of correctness is not the issue, the issue is one of utility
along the continuum from best to worse, with top posting being at that
latter end.

Lionel


OTOH - bottom-posting is perhaps as described - the a%%-endg
(not that I care one way or the other)
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In article ,
Mike wrote:

[Snip]

Please argue about something sensible.. OE works well as a newsreader..
it is easy to find and flag posts.. top posting works well with OE..
bottom posting has to include stuff that has already been said, and
posters names and the statements attributed to them get confused, which
often leads to misunderstandings and even more arguments and name
calling..

Yes, you are right, it does. But this could also be evidence that OE
doesn't actually work terribly well as a newsreader. :-)

Cheers

Alan

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Jess wrote:

In message
"kurttrail"
wrote:

[snip]

Interleaving / Bottom Posting are the basically the same thing. You
put your words below those you are responding to, as oppose to above.

If you respond to a one sentence post, and you reply below it, is it
interleaved or bottom posted?

Both, but it is where the new text doesn't start within 20 or 30 lines
that it becomes bad.

I don't like bottom posting either.

And that's good for *YOU*! Other people aren't as anal as you are. We
don't judge people on *HOW* they post, but on *WHAT* they post.

Just like we don't judge a book by it's cover, or a man by the color of
their skin, we aren't prejudiced against how people for *HOW* they post, but
by the content of the character.


Republicans - Democrats
Bottom Post - Top Post

Bottom Posters are like the social conservative right wing of the
Republican party, and Interleavers are like the moderates of the
Republic party.

I'm an Independent, I see that there are circumstances where
sometimes I'm a social conservate, sometimes I'm a moderate, and
sometimes I'm a Democrat. Depends on the circumstance. Just like
the way I post, sometimes I'm on the top, somtimes I'm on the
bottom, but I mostly Interleave. Just depends on what *I* consider
would be the most appropriate form for *MY* *POST*!

Unfortunately the polical analogies don't mean that much to me, I'm in
England and we don't just have 2 political parties. We have 3 major
parties and several other significant parties (and the other countries
in the UK have even more).

Okay, some women like it on top, and others like being on the bottom, some
in the missionary position, some doggie-style . . . .

Do I really need to go on?


If someone doesn't want to read my words just because it is top
posted or bottom posted or interleaved, then I really wouldn't want
an a**hole like that to read my words either. I write my opinions
for those with an open mind, eventhough I do repond to the
closeminded all the time, I don't reply for them, but for other
people that are openminded that might be reading the conversation.

The thing is, if you have several hundred postings in your news\mail
and someone makes a comment that appears out of sequence above what it
refers to and you would need to read a couple of paragraphs to work it
out, then it gets ignored, whereas if all you needed to do is read one
sentance above it it wouldn't.

SO BE IT! I CAN NOT CONTROL HOW PEOPLE READ MY POSTS! ALL I CONTROL IS HOW
I WRITE MY POSTS, BASED ON WHAT I FEEL IS MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THE
SITUATION, NOT BECAUSE WHAT YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE BELIEVES IS BETTER!

I am an individual, and your traditions are meaningless to me.

CRAWL BACK TO YOUR SQUIRREL HOLE AND TAKE THE REST OF YOUR NETNAZIS BACK
WITH YOU!

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Lionel Smith wrote:

In article ,
Veronica Odedra wrote:

What does F*** actually mean? I looked up in a dictionary and I
can't see any word like this. Is there a misprint?

Try typing zzzz into an older version of MS Word and then running the
spellcheck, you may discover the context of its meaning. ;-)

Lionel

Try going to hell, and you may discover the context of my meaning! ;-)

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In message
"kurttrail" wrote:
Jess wrote:

[snip]

It's no more trouble, on the prog I use, opening a previous post
than scrolling down. I've never tried OE for news, is that
/another/ weakness of it?

Has nothing to do with the newsreader, but the shear number of posts.

We deal with a 1000 a day, and when SP2 comes out that number will triple,
or more.

When you're in the backwaters of the USENET, you have all the time you want
to spend with each post.

???? My complaint with top posting is that it takes _more_ time to deal
with, not less, and I already have more news and mailing lists than
time to deal with them.

[snip]

You are assuming that other systems are as illogical and complex as
windows. Also it's not only old windows systems that get chucked out.
(I was recently given an old G3 Mac which should be relatively easy to
get up and running with OSX - a new system to play with - not as nice
GUI as RISC OS though)

Oh give up the RISC ****. Ya'll already have lost all credibility, over the
bottom posting spamming of our groups.

If you're happy with inefficient computing, keep top posting and keep
using windows. We aren't. And we we were only moaning about top postings
in our groups, it's not our fault that they were cross posted.

And no the majority would be running XP. I run a combo of 98 & 2K.
I refuse to run an OS that is deliberately designed to disable
itself.

XP - At least we agree on some things.

I doesn't matter. I don't respect you, or your group, not because of your
OS, but because how you conduct yourselves as human beings, individually and
as a group, so what we agree on doesn't matter in the least.

[snip]

In a properly trimmed and interleaved post, you don't have to search
for the new text. And, if you have a decent reader, it's the bit in
black.

HUH? I had to scroll down to see you words in the post I'm replying to.

Sorry I should've snipped harder, you must have a pretty small window
though.

[snip]


It's an RFC and yes, a recommendation, not an actual standard.

Then recommend it in your group, and leave ours the F*CK alone!

It is and that's what everyone's moaning about.

[snip]

What doe a GUI have to do with it? It's still back to front.

TO YOU! To top posters, it's just reading one post after another.

In reverse order - GUI is irrelevant

[snip]

TO YOU. I have people in my group that hate it, when I rip apart their
posts line by line.

That's not our misfortune.

[snip]

Actually there are representives of at least 2 msnews groups still actively
posting to this thread. BUT MANY MORE ARE LURKING! I suspect many are
reading this thread in all 3 groups out of the sheer amusement, of seeing
you guys getting tortured.

Tortured? This is light releif.

[snip]


Your group is just a bunch of spammer, trolls, and nutcases. That is the
impression you guys have left BY YOUR OWN ACTIONS!

Spammers - you mean the fact that someone sent personal emails asking
posters to respect to posting conventions of the group?

Trolls - we have several that troll us, but just the one that trolled
you.

Nutcases - I think we prefer the term excentric

Just shut up and leave, if you have a smidgeon self-respect left.

Why shouldn't I have?

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Lionel Smith wrote:

In article ,
kurttrail wrote:

Whether one chooses to top or bottom post is a personal preference,
not a matter of correctness.

A matter of correctness is not the issue,

Well it has been with the rest of the nuts, especially Drucks rules which
was sent out to people's inboxes, because your group attacked us by telling
us to "f*ck off" and then spamming us with this totally subjective
top/bottom posting BS!

the issue is one of utility
along the continuum from best to worse, with top posting being at that
latter end.

FROAD! One man's utility is not anothers. We are individuals, c*cksucker,
and we have every right to choose to post any way we like, no matter what
you believe is better for *YOU*!

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In message
"kurttrail" wrote:

Jess wrote:

It was one persons who trolled your groups with a stolen identity. He
obviously conned you into cross-posting replies to our group where
where posting styles are important, knowing that you would get
complaints. Doesn't your software warn you if you are cross-posting?

We get cross-posted with many non-msnews groups every day. This is the
first time some arrogants *******s tried to impose their values on us.

You're trying to impose your values on us. You are doing exactly what
you are accusing us of.

Go to Iraq, if you want to push your values on a group of people that don't
want them! Georgie Bush, and his puppets Blair & Howard, are looking for
some help doing just that!

HOW DARE YOU! F*CKING SCUMBAGS, ALL OF YOU!

From your comments I would have expected you to support the iraq
campaign, we don't want top posting on our NG yet you want us to put up
with it.

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alan.calder wrote:

In article ,
Mike wrote:

[Snip]

Please argue about something sensible.. OE works well as a
newsreader.. it is easy to find and flag posts.. top posting works
well with OE.. bottom posting has to include stuff that has already
been said, and posters names and the statements attributed to them
get confused, which often leads to misunderstandings and even more
arguments and name calling..

Yes, you are right, it does. But this could also be evidence that OE
doesn't actually work terribly well as a newsreader. :-)

Who cares?! It works just fine. You guys just aren't used to the volume of
posts that we are. Just because you guys are locked in the dungeon of the
USENET, and have to abide by strick rules or get beaten by your jailer, John
Cartsmell, does mean the rest of us aren't free to choose to do whatever we
wish.

FROAD, the whole lot of you!

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