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lol That's what happens when you reach the half century g and I don't
mean cricket. Joan Noel Paton wrote: This is getting to be like old folk^h^h^h^h home week! gd&r - fast! |
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Hi Will, I'm OK keep meaning to phone you but then get sidetracked with
something else g (Note to self - phone Will soon) Today it was the Sky man to repair our installation and next week should be the man to install a new bathroom for us complete with electric shower g Joan Will Denny wrote: Hey Joan - how are you you? Long time no hear. Yes Alias's postings have been deleted. |
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I didn't G
I just wanted to make you aware of the implications for techs who do install the copies. Unfortunately I have to turn away tons of business because I will not install or repair illegal software. -- Larry Samuels Associate Expert MS-MVP (2001-2005) Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "A" wrote in message ... Don't get me wrong. I am against piracy. I told the couple they should buy a copy but they wouldn't. I only own legit software or licenses. A |
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Big Kisses!! Thank you, Joanie......I thought it was just we Colonials
that find cricket to be the ultimate in boring!! Chuckling to myself in Canader. Figgs "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... Rubbish, it's absolutely boring g Joan Will Denny wrote: Football is 4 girlies - cricket is a mans game!!!!! I'm very well, thank you Shane. Will |
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 11:17:21 +0200, A wrote:
Mike M wrote: Andrew Martin wrote: We install WGA on dozens of computers every week but I have a customer here who's pc will not install WGA without freezing the entire pc. Everything has been perfectly working on this pc until automatic updates tried to install the latest WGA but now it will not install no matter how (automatic updates / activex control, etc). The whole system hangs, we can't even hit cntl-alt-del or click anything with the mouse. The Windows is definately legit, purchased from an MS authorized vendor by us, not that this would make a difference anyway. Even if it was not legit, it should just pop up the notification box and not cause the whole system to hang. We just can't get it to do anything. I've tried turning off all startup programs and system services, even tried in safe mode with networking. Nothing works. I tried the WGA diagnostic tool...it locks up too. Questions about this locked-up state: - is HD LED on or active? - does mouse pointer move? - does unplugging the network clear the lockup? - any random graphics or broken UI elements? (SVGA) How hard does it lock up, i.e. which works/don't work: - Alt+Tab, Ctl+Esc - Ctl+Alt+Del, Task Manager - pressing NumLock; does keyboard LED toggle state? - pressing ATX off button once; does it shutdown? - hardware Reset button - holding down ATX off button for 10 seconds - doing nil but waiting for a long time (e.g. 1 hour; timeout) If anyone has an idea on this one let me know...I'm frustrated beyond words. One would need to know more about what WGA is doing, but I'd start with "the prelim" to get that out of the way... - check RAM (MemTest86) - check physical HD (e.g. HD Tune from www.hdtune.com) - exclude malware (difficult, I know...) ....though having said that, the problem seems not only focal (affecting WGA, nil else) but not limited to a particular file or part of the hard drive. Unlike RAM or other hardware errors, hard drive bad sectors can map to particular files and appear to be unifocal, but as a separate WPA tool fails the same way, it's prolly not that. Moving in to more specific things, I'd look for interactions (possibly with safety/security sware that intervenes when scripts run etc.) and version soup, e.g. an old-version .DLL involved in scripting etc. I'd also compare mileage with: - Safe Mode, if possible (suppresses drivers and most startup) - MSConfig startup suppression - different user account (avoids per-user startup and integrations) - parallel OS installation on same hardware (use different HD) - with all peripherals disconnected Look for free Nirsoft utilities that can help you manage integration points that are not UI'd by MSConfig or similar - for example, Shell Extension Viewer lets you suppress some CLSID shell integrations. What's nice is that typically these tools will let you reversably disable such things, making it easy to Undo. Final random thoughts: - SR contents - polluted .DLL or installation source caches - some sort of tripwire when querying hardware The last is relevant if WGA is sniffing for hardware comonent identities a la Product Activation. What's even more pathetic is that WGA ONLY benefits MS and does not benefit the end user in any way. Sure - that's why vandors walk such a thin line. If you're going to inflict mandatory sware with NO user benefit, then it had better work perfectly and cause no problems outside the intended payload contexts. --------------- ---- --- -- - - - - I'm baaaack! --------------- ---- --- -- - - - - |
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Hey Chris!
Drop by DTS soon--we have been worried about your absence -- Larry Samuels Associate Expert MS-MVP (2001-2005) Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote in message ... On Sat, 06 May 2006 11:17:21 +0200, A wrote: Mike M wrote: Andrew Martin wrote: We install WGA on dozens of computers every week but I have a customer here who's pc will not install WGA without freezing the entire pc. Everything has been perfectly working on this pc until automatic updates tried to install the latest WGA but now it will not install no matter how (automatic updates / activex control, etc). The whole system hangs, we can't even hit cntl-alt-del or click anything with the mouse. The Windows is definately legit, purchased from an MS authorized vendor by us, not that this would make a difference anyway. Even if it was not legit, it should just pop up the notification box and not cause the whole system to hang. We just can't get it to do anything. I've tried turning off all startup programs and system services, even tried in safe mode with networking. Nothing works. I tried the WGA diagnostic tool...it locks up too. Questions about this locked-up state: - is HD LED on or active? - does mouse pointer move? - does unplugging the network clear the lockup? - any random graphics or broken UI elements? (SVGA) How hard does it lock up, i.e. which works/don't work: - Alt+Tab, Ctl+Esc - Ctl+Alt+Del, Task Manager - pressing NumLock; does keyboard LED toggle state? - pressing ATX off button once; does it shutdown? - hardware Reset button - holding down ATX off button for 10 seconds - doing nil but waiting for a long time (e.g. 1 hour; timeout) If anyone has an idea on this one let me know...I'm frustrated beyond words. One would need to know more about what WGA is doing, but I'd start with "the prelim" to get that out of the way... - check RAM (MemTest86) - check physical HD (e.g. HD Tune from www.hdtune.com) - exclude malware (difficult, I know...) ...though having said that, the problem seems not only focal (affecting WGA, nil else) but not limited to a particular file or part of the hard drive. Unlike RAM or other hardware errors, hard drive bad sectors can map to particular files and appear to be unifocal, but as a separate WPA tool fails the same way, it's prolly not that. Moving in to more specific things, I'd look for interactions (possibly with safety/security sware that intervenes when scripts run etc.) and version soup, e.g. an old-version .DLL involved in scripting etc. I'd also compare mileage with: - Safe Mode, if possible (suppresses drivers and most startup) - MSConfig startup suppression - different user account (avoids per-user startup and integrations) - parallel OS installation on same hardware (use different HD) - with all peripherals disconnected Look for free Nirsoft utilities that can help you manage integration points that are not UI'd by MSConfig or similar - for example, Shell Extension Viewer lets you suppress some CLSID shell integrations. What's nice is that typically these tools will let you reversably disable such things, making it easy to Undo. Final random thoughts: - SR contents - polluted .DLL or installation source caches - some sort of tripwire when querying hardware The last is relevant if WGA is sniffing for hardware comonent identities a la Product Activation. What's even more pathetic is that WGA ONLY benefits MS and does not benefit the end user in any way. Sure - that's why vandors walk such a thin line. If you're going to inflict mandatory sware with NO user benefit, then it had better work perfectly and cause no problems outside the intended payload contexts. --------------- ---- --- -- - - - - I'm baaaack! --------------- ---- --- -- - - - - |
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Yeah - as Larry says. Get back to DTS Chris.
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Agreed - drop into DTS Chris.
Will "Larry Samuels" wrote in message ... Hey Chris! Drop by DTS soon--we have been worried about your absence -- Larry Samuels Associate Expert MS-MVP (2001-2005) Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone |
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Bo*locks Joan :-)) Cricket is a great game.
Will "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... Rubbish, it's absolutely boring g Joan Will Denny wrote: Football is 4 girlies - cricket is a mans game!!!!! I'm very well, thank you Shane. Will |
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Hey Figgs, how are you? Ron OK?
Will -- "Heather" wrote in message ... Big Kisses!! Thank you, Joanie......I thought it was just we Colonials that find cricket to be the ultimate in boring!! Chuckling to myself in Canader. Figgs |
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