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Old May 27th 04, 06:23 PM
Bruce
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I have a W98SE machine with WM9 that I use to stream music from the
Internet.

The machine has a BIOS that turns it on every morning at the same time -
works great - wish more machines had this!

Problem is shutting down.

I use Task Manager to shut down W98, but it can't shut down WM9 - it always
hangs.

The shutdown command I am using is:
C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL.EXE[space]user.exe,exitwindows

and it always hangs with "Rundll not responding"

If WM9 is not running, it shuts down fine. IF it is running it hangs.

So my questions to you a
A. is this the best shut down command I can use?
B. Are there better ways to do this?

I am so close to having this automated, I can almost taste it! But if it
doesn't shut down automatically, I waste a lot of power over the year.

Thanks for any help you can provide!




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Old May 28th 04, 06:34 AM
meirman
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In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Thu, 27 May 2004 13:23:35
-0400 "Bruce" posted:

I have a W98SE machine with WM9 that I use to stream music from the
Internet.

The machine has a BIOS that turns it on every morning at the same time -
works great - wish more machines had this!


Who wrote the BIOS? I might like to get one.

Problem is shutting down.

I use Task Manager to shut down W98, but it can't shut down WM9 - it always
hangs.

The shutdown command I am using is:
C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL.EXE[space]user.exe,exitwindows

and it always hangs with "Rundll not responding"

If WM9 is not running, it shuts down fine. IF it is running it hangs.

So my questions to you a
A. is this the best shut down command I can use?


Don't know.

B. Are there better ways to do this?


Don't know. (Isn't this the same question as above, just reversed?
You're not going to trick me into contradicting myself. )

I use C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL32.EXE shell32.dll,SHExitWindowsEx 1

The last number determines exactly what happens.
1 = total exit ("Ready to turn off computer")
2 = ?? Restart Windows?
3 = ?? Exit to Dos?
4 = ?? Standby?
5 = ?? Turn off computer????

Let us know what happens.

Somehow I think rundll.exe might be left over from windows 3.1. Did
you use it then?

I am so close to having this automated, I can almost taste it! But if it
doesn't shut down automatically, I waste a lot of power over the year.

Thanks for any help you can provide!





Meirman

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Old May 28th 04, 01:14 PM
Bruce
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"meirman" wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Thu, 27 May 2004 13:23:35
-0400 "Bruce" posted:

I have a W98SE machine with WM9 that I use to stream music from the
Internet.

The machine has a BIOS that turns it on every morning at the same time -
works great - wish more machines had this!


Who wrote the BIOS? I might like to get one.


This is an old IBM Aptiva. I have never seen it since - doesn't mean they
aren't out there, but it is the only place I have seen it.

Hint to manufacturers - we like this feature!

Problem is shutting down.

I use Task Manager to shut down W98, but it can't shut down WM9 - it

always
hangs.

The shutdown command I am using is:
C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL.EXE[space]user.exe,exitwindows

and it always hangs with "Rundll not responding"

If WM9 is not running, it shuts down fine. IF it is running it hangs.

So my questions to you a
A. is this the best shut down command I can use?


Don't know.


But you suggest a new one below! Thanks.

B. Are there better ways to do this?


Don't know. (Isn't this the same question as above, just reversed?
You're not going to trick me into contradicting myself. )

I as actually asking if there are better ways e.g., trying to shut WM9 down
separately from Windows, or something else like that.


I use C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL32.EXE shell32.dll,SHExitWindowsEx 1

The last number determines exactly what happens.
1 = total exit ("Ready to turn off computer")
2 = ?? Restart Windows?
3 = ?? Exit to Dos?
4 = ?? Standby?
5 = ?? Turn off computer????


I will try the above and let you know.

Let us know what happens.

Somehow I think rundll.exe might be left over from windows 3.1. Did
you use it then?

No, this is a totally wiped machine, so it isn't leftover, unless like a lot
of W98 MS left it in there.

The command I got from some old publication - they probably reused it from
W31 - saved their researchers time ;-)


Thank you for your ideas - I will try them.

I am so close to having this automated, I can almost taste it! But if it
doesn't shut down automatically, I waste a lot of power over the year.

Thanks for any help you can provide!





Meirman

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or not you are posting the same letter.

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Old May 29th 04, 05:06 AM
meirman
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In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Fri, 28 May 2004 08:14:40
-0400 "Bruce" posted:


"meirman" wrote in message
.. .
In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Thu, 27 May 2004 13:23:35
-0400 "Bruce" posted:
The shutdown command I am using is:
C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL.EXE[space]user.exe,exitwindows

and it always hangs with "Rundll not responding"

If WM9 is not running, it shuts down fine. IF it is running it hangs.

So my questions to you a
A. is this the best shut down command I can use?


Don't know.


But you suggest a new one below! Thanks.


But I don't know if yours is the best or not.

B. Are there better ways to do this?


Don't know. (Isn't this the same question as above, just reversed?
You're not going to trick me into contradicting myself. )

I as actually asking if there are better ways e.g., trying to shut WM9 down
separately from Windows, or something else like that.


I use C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL32.EXE shell32.dll,SHExitWindowsEx 1


I got this off some webpage, maybe a MS one.

The last number determines exactly what happens.
1 = total exit ("Ready to turn off computer")
2 = ?? Restart Windows?
3 = ?? Exit to Dos?
4 = ?? Standby?
5 = ?? Turn off computer????

I will try the above and let you know.

Let us know what happens.

Somehow I think rundll.exe might be left over from windows 3.1. Did
you use it then?

No, this is a totally wiped machine, so it isn't leftover, unless like a lot
of W98 MS left it in there.

The command I got from some old publication - they probably reused it from
W31 - saved their researchers time ;-)


I still have win3.1 in one of my partitions, and I just checked and
there is no rundll*.* in it at all.

OTOH, win98 FE has both of them with the same date/time. May 11, '98,
at 8:01 PM.

Thank you for your ideas - I will try them.


You're welcome.

Meirman

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or not you are posting the same letter.

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