Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

Your welcome...

How much memory do you have? And how fast a processor?

You can shutdown some of the services in AVAST! if your not using them,
like P2P, Outlook/Exchange [not OE or other mail programs], and Instant
messaging,
You WILL need to configure your browsers to use a proxy[AVAST] at 127.0.0.1
port 12080 in your connectionsLANAdvanced so your Internet contact can be
monitored and checked for bad stuff. It handles POP3 and IMAP connections
for email which covers most services.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be causing
my
| system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller' Win
98
| AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.
|
| Thanks again for everything!
| Martha
|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | MEB,
| | THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said
and
| | uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then
rebooted.
| It
| | discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
| | EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are
the 3
| HP
| | System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| | reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had
NOT
| | loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
| | adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of
| anything
| | else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled
DRIVERS.
| So
| | I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for
the
| Win
| | 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged
back
| in
| | my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My
best
| | guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
| |
| | THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| | My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| | Martha
|
| I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.
|
| I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I
would
| recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up to
date
| {or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
| DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them...
just
| update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed are
at
| least installed in your system.
| MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using 9X
on
| the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something like
| SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't going
to
| use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router and
part
| of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.
|
| If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
| microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to advise
on
| those issues.
|
| Again, thanks for posting back with the success.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to
255.255.255.0
| and
| | it
| | | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and
| Internet
| | | Explorer.
| |
| | Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping
| worked.
| | Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
| | Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN
settings].
| | {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| | NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
| |
| | |
| | | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the
| IP/subnet
| | | mask have been changed.
| | |
| | | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
Ethernet
| | | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is
that
| what
| | it
| | | should be?
| | |
| | | Thanks!
| | | Martha
| |
| | IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| | AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
| refresh/find
| | the network if available];
| | AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut
it
| off;
| | AND checked the browsers;
| | AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| | AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| | - THEN -
| |
| | Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD
| somewhere
| | like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices
| [modem,
| | netcard, etc]
| |
| | Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI
was
| | unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| | Shutdown -
| | Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
| | reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| | Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| | go to Network
| | re-check everything,
| | make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| | File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
| | AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the
*adapter's*
| TCP/IP
| | settings.
| | Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain
automatically].
| Save,
| | It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
| |
| | Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get
"More
| Info".
| | SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously
| posted.
| | Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a
text
| | file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.
| |
| | Should look something like this:
| | Ethernet adapter :
| |
| | Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| | Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| | DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| | IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| | Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| | Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
| | DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
| | Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| | Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| | Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| | Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
| |
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | |
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | MEB,
| | | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand
about
| the IP
| | | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what
I
| have.
| | I
| | | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a
| Vista
| | Laptop
| | | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP
| hardwired
| | (if
| | | I
| | | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is
| enabled
| | for
| | | SPI
| | | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security
| which
| | has a
| | | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
| | computer
| | | was
| | | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only
did
| the
| | Win 98
| | | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting.
It
| is
| | only
| | | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my
settings
| | correct to
| | | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working
fine
| on
| | the
| | | | Network.
| | | |
| | | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | | Gateway Blank
| | | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | | Bindings to:
| | | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | | |
| | | | Advanced Tab
| | | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| | | |
| | | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| | | | Binding to:
| | | | 3COM Diagnostic
| | | | NetBEUI
| | | | TCP/IP
| | | |
| | | | Advanced tab:
| | | | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | | | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | | | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | | | Link Wake up Enable
| | | | IP not present
| | | |
| | | | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask
255.255.255.0
| | | | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | | | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask
255.255.0.0
| | |
| | | Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| | | It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its
hardwired,
| try
| | making
| | | it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not
already
| | used}.
| | | Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
| Ethernet
| | | Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change
this
| to
| | the
| | | manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet
| 255.255.255.0.
| | | See if this works.
| | |
| | | |
| | | | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all
systems
| | | connected
| | | | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
| | | |
| | | | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP
to
| | | 192.168.5.1
| | | | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties).
| However
| | this
| | | | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
| | | |
| | | | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your
| help.
| | | | Martha
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | MEB
| | | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | | a Peoples' counsel
| | | _ _
| | | ~~
| | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "MEB" wrote:
| | | |
| | | | It may be easier to just remove the network settings on
both
| the XP
| | and
| | | 98
| | | | computer and start from scratch.
| | | |
| | | | HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing
the
| | | XP/VISTA/other
| | | | box{es} up.
| | | | First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if
the
| IP
| | | range
| | | | for the local network is included and what its range is.
| | | | Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any
Internet
| | | | connection/device from the network].
| | | | THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| | | | Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the
| network
| | AND
| | | that
| | | | the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| | | | Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed
and
| | TCP/IP
| | | | protocol.
| | | | Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a
| router
| | or
| | | | server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP
| settings]
| | to
| | | | receive from the network.
| | | | Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you
have

I have an HP 8760C Pavillion with 448 MB Ram and 733 MHz Processor Intel
Pentium III. I will be using it for my 5 & 6 year old grandsons that have
discovered games on the internet. The only time I will plan to use email is
to transfer an occasional email down to the HP (like the Avast Registration
number). I adjusted the Avast so that the only services a Internet Mail,
Standard Shield and Web Shield. Is it safe to assume I need all of those?
I'll see if that helps the performance. I found where to configure my
Internet Explorer for the Avast, but on Mozilla Firefox, I wasn't sure. Here
is a picture of my Firefox Network setting.
. Is it set correctly? My
email is POP3.

My Linksys WRT610N Router states it has a powerful Firewall. From what you
said, I still need to install a firewall on my Win 98 (HP) computer? For
performance reasons I don't want to install any more programs than I really
need.

I tried to do a Windows Update, but apparently they are no longer offering
Win 98 SE updates. I found an *unofficial* website
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...ice-Pack.shtml. Would you recommend me using this site?

Thanks for your help!
Martha


"MEB" wrote:

Your welcome...

How much memory do you have? And how fast a processor?

You can shutdown some of the services in AVAST! if your not using them,
like P2P, Outlook/Exchange [not OE or other mail programs], and Instant
messaging,
You WILL need to configure your browsers to use a proxy[AVAST] at 127.0.0.1
port 12080 in your connectionsLANAdvanced so your Internet contact can be
monitored and checked for bad stuff. It handles POP3 and IMAP connections
for email which covers most services.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be causing
my
| system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller' Win
98
| AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.
|
| Thanks again for everything!
| Martha
|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | MEB,
| | THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said
and
| | uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then
rebooted.
| It
| | discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
| | EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are
the 3
| HP
| | System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| | reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had
NOT
| | loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
| | adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of
| anything
| | else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled
DRIVERS.
| So
| | I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for
the
| Win
| | 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged
back
| in
| | my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My
best
| | guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
| |
| | THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| | My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| | Martha
|
| I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.
|
| I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I
would
| recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up to
date
| {or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
| DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them...
just
| update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed are
at
| least installed in your system.
| MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using 9X
on
| the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something like
| SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't going
to
| use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router and
part
| of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.
|
| If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
| microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to advise
on
| those issues.
|
| Again, thanks for posting back with the success.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to
255.255.255.0
| and
| | it
| | | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and
| Internet
| | | Explorer.
| |
| | Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping
| worked.
| | Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
| | Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN
settings].
| | {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| | NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
| |
| | |
| | | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the
| IP/subnet
| | | mask have been changed.
| | |
| | | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
Ethernet
| | | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is
that
| what
| | it
| | | should be?
| | |
| | | Thanks!
| | | Martha
| |
| | IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| | AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
| refresh/find
| | the network if available];
| | AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut
it
| off;
| | AND checked the browsers;
| | AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| | AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| | - THEN -
| |
| | Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD
| somewhere
| | like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices
| [modem,
| | netcard, etc]
| |
| | Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI
was
| | unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| | Shutdown -
| | Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
| | reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| | Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| | go to Network
| | re-check everything,
| | make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| | File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
| | AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the
*adapter's*
| TCP/IP
| | settings.
| | Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain
automatically].
| Save,
| | It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
| |
| | Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get
"More
| Info".
| | SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously
| posted.
| | Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a
text
| | file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.
| |
| | Should look something like this:
| | Ethernet adapter :
| |
| | Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| | Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| | DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| | IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| | Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| | Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
| | DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
| | Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| | Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| | Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| | Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
| |
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | |
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | MEB,
| | | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand
about
| the IP
| | | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what
I
| have.
| | I
| | | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a
| Vista
| | Laptop
| | | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP
| hardwired
| | (if
| | | I
| | | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is
| enabled
| | for
| | | SPI
| | | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security
| which
| | has a
| | | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
| | computer
| | | was
| | | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only
did
| the
| | Win 98
| | | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting.
It
| is
| | only
| | | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my
settings
| | correct to
| | | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working
fine
| on
| | the
| | | | Network.
| | | |
| | | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | | Gateway Blank
| | | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | | Bindings to:
| | | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | | |
| | | | Advanced Tab
| | | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| | | |
| | | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| | | | Binding to:
| | | | 3COM Diagnostic
| | | | NetBEUI
| | | | TCP/IP
| | | |
| | | | Advanced tab:
| | | | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | | | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | | | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | | | Link Wake up Enable
| | | | IP not present
| | | |
| | | | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask
255.255.255.0
| | | | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | | | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask
255.255.0.0
| | |
| | | Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| | | It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its
hardwired,
| try
| | making
| | | it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not
already
| | used}.
| | | Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast

I have an HP 8760C Pavillion with 448 MB Ram and 733 MHz Processor Intel
Pentium III. I will be using it for my 5 & 6 year old grandsons that have
discovered games on the internet. The only time I will plan to use email is
to transfer an occasional email down to the HP (like the Avast Registration
number). I adjusted the Avast so that the only services a Internet Mail,
Standard Shield and Web Shield. Is it safe to assume I need all of those?
I'll see if that helps the performance. I found where to configure my
Internet Explorer for the Avast, but on Mozilla Firefox, I wasn't sure. Here
is a picture of my Firefox Network setting.
. Is it set correctly? My
email is POP3.

My Linksys WRT610N Router states it has a powerful Firewall. From what you
said, I still need to install a firewall on my Win 98 (HP) computer? For
performance reasons I don't want to install any more programs than I really
need.

I tried to do a Windows Update, but apparently they are no longer offering
Win 98 SE updates. I found an *unofficial* website
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...ice-Pack.shtml. Would you recommend me using this site?

Thanks for your help!
Martha


"MEB" wrote:

Your welcome...

How much memory do you have? And how fast a processor?

You can shutdown some of the services in AVAST! if your not using them,
like P2P, Outlook/Exchange [not OE or other mail programs], and Instant
messaging,
You WILL need to configure your browsers to use a proxy[AVAST] at 127.0.0.1
port 12080 in your connectionsLANAdvanced so your Internet contact can be
monitored and checked for bad stuff. It handles POP3 and IMAP connections
for email which covers most services.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be causing
my
| system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller' Win
98
| AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.
|
| Thanks again for everything!
| Martha
|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | MEB,
| | THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said
and
| | uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then
rebooted.
| It
| | discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
| | EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are
the 3
| HP
| | System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| | reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had
NOT
| | loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
| | adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of
| anything
| | else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled
DRIVERS.
| So
| | I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for
the
| Win
| | 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged
back
| in
| | my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My
best
| | guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
| |
| | THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| | My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| | Martha
|
| I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.
|
| I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I
would
| recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up to
date
| {or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
| DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them...
just
| update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed are
at
| least installed in your system.
| MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using 9X
on
| the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something like
| SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't going
to
| use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router and
part
| of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.
|
| If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
| microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to advise
on
| those issues.
|
| Again, thanks for posting back with the success.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to
255.255.255.0
| and
| | it
| | | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and
| Internet
| | | Explorer.
| |
| | Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping
| worked.
| | Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
| | Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN
settings].
| | {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| | NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
| |
| | |
| | | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the
| IP/subnet
| | | mask have been changed.
| | |
| | | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
Ethernet
| | | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is
that
| what
| | it
| | | should be?
| | |
| | | Thanks!
| | | Martha
| |
| | IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| | AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
| refresh/find
| | the network if available];
| | AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut
it
| off;
| | AND checked the browsers;
| | AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| | AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| | - THEN -
| |
| | Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD
| somewhere
| | like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices
| [modem,
| | netcard, etc]
| |
| | Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI
was
| | unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| | Shutdown -
| | Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
| | reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| | Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| | go to Network
| | re-check everything,
| | make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| | File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
| | AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the
*adapter's*
| TCP/IP
| | settings.
| | Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain
automatically].
| Save,
| | It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
| |
| | Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get
"More
| Info".
| | SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously
| posted.
| | Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a
text
| | file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.
| |
| | Should look something like this:
| | Ethernet adapter :
| |
| | Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| | Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| | DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| | IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| | Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| | Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
| | DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
| | Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| | Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| | Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| | Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
| |
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | |
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | MEB,
| | | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand
about
| the IP
| | | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what
I
| have.
| | I
| | | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a
| Vista
| | Laptop
| | | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP
| hardwired
| | (if
| | | I
| | | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is
| enabled
| | for
| | | SPI
| | | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security
| which
| | has a
| | | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
| | computer
| | | was
| | | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only
did
| the
| | Win 98
| | | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting.
It
| is
| | only
| | | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my
settings
| | correct to
| | | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working
fine
| on
| | the
| | | | Network.
| | | |
| | | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | | Gateway Blank
| | | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | | Bindings to:
| | | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | | |
| | | | Advanced Tab
| | | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| | | |
| | | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| | | | Binding to:
| | | | 3COM Diagnostic
| | | | NetBEUI
| | | | TCP/IP
| | | |
| | | | Advanced tab:
| | | | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | | | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | | | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | | | Link Wake up Enable
| | | | IP not present
| | | |
| | | | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask
255.255.255.0
| | | | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | | | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask
255.255.0.0
| | |
| | | Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| | | It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its
hardwired,
| try
| | making
| | | it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not
already
| | used}.
| | | Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast

I forgot to mention that I have Trend Micro Internet Security on my other 2
computers leaving me one additional seat that I could use on the Win 98
computer. But it seems to be such a LARGE program, that I'm afraid it would
slow it way down. That is assuming it is compatible with Win 98.
Thanks!

"skibuz" wrote:

I have an HP 8760C Pavillion with 448 MB Ram and 733 MHz Processor Intel
Pentium III. I will be using it for my 5 & 6 year old grandsons that have
discovered games on the internet. The only time I will plan to use email is
to transfer an occasional email down to the HP (like the Avast Registration
number). I adjusted the Avast so that the only services a Internet Mail,
Standard Shield and Web Shield. Is it safe to assume I need all of those?
I'll see if that helps the performance. I found where to configure my
Internet Explorer for the Avast, but on Mozilla Firefox, I wasn't sure. Here
is a picture of my Firefox Network setting.
. Is it set correctly? My
email is POP3.

My Linksys WRT610N Router states it has a powerful Firewall. From what you
said, I still need to install a firewall on my Win 98 (HP) computer? For
performance reasons I don't want to install any more programs than I really
need.

I tried to do a Windows Update, but apparently they are no longer offering
Win 98 SE updates. I found an *unofficial* website
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...ice-Pack.shtml. Would you recommend me using this site?

Thanks for your help!
Martha


"MEB" wrote:

Your welcome...

How much memory do you have? And how fast a processor?

You can shutdown some of the services in AVAST! if your not using them,
like P2P, Outlook/Exchange [not OE or other mail programs], and Instant
messaging,
You WILL need to configure your browsers to use a proxy[AVAST] at 127.0.0.1
port 12080 in your connectionsLANAdvanced so your Internet contact can be
monitored and checked for bad stuff. It handles POP3 and IMAP connections
for email which covers most services.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be causing
my
| system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller' Win
98
| AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.
|
| Thanks again for everything!
| Martha
|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | MEB,
| | THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said
and
| | uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then
rebooted.
| It
| | discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
| | EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are
the 3
| HP
| | System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| | reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had
NOT
| | loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
| | adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of
| anything
| | else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled
DRIVERS.
| So
| | I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for
the
| Win
| | 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged
back
| in
| | my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My
best
| | guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
| |
| | THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| | My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| | Martha
|
| I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.
|
| I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I
would
| recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up to
date
| {or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
| DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them...
just
| update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed are
at
| least installed in your system.
| MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using 9X
on
| the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something like
| SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't going
to
| use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router and
part
| of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.
|
| If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
| microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to advise
on
| those issues.
|
| Again, thanks for posting back with the success.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to
255.255.255.0
| and
| | it
| | | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and
| Internet
| | | Explorer.
| |
| | Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping
| worked.
| | Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
| | Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN
settings].
| | {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| | NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
| |
| | |
| | | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the
| IP/subnet
| | | mask have been changed.
| | |
| | | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
Ethernet
| | | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is
that
| what
| | it
| | | should be?
| | |
| | | Thanks!
| | | Martha
| |
| | IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| | AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
| refresh/find
| | the network if available];
| | AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut
it
| off;
| | AND checked the browsers;
| | AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| | AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| | - THEN -
| |
| | Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD
| somewhere
| | like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices
| [modem,
| | netcard, etc]
| |
| | Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI
was
| | unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| | Shutdown -
| | Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
| | reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| | Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| | go to Network
| | re-check everything,
| | make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| | File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
| | AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the
*adapter's*
| TCP/IP
| | settings.
| | Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain
automatically].
| Save,
| | It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
| |
| | Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get
"More
| Info".
| | SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously
| posted.
| | Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a
text
| | file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.
| |
| | Should look something like this:
| | Ethernet adapter :
| |
| | Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| | Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| | DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| | IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| | Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| | Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
| | DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
| | Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| | Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| | Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| | Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
| |
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | |
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | MEB,
| | | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand
about
| the IP
| | | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what
I
| have.
| | I
| | | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a
| Vista
| | Laptop
| | | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP
| hardwired
| | (if
| | | I
| | | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is
| enabled
| | for
| | | SPI
| | | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security
| which
| | has a
| | | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
| | computer
| | | was
| | | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only
did
| the
| | Win 98
| | | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting.
It
| is
| | only
| | | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my
settings
| | correct to
| | | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working
fine
| on
| | the
| | | | Network.
| | | |
| | | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | | Gateway Blank
| | | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | | Bindings to:
| | | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | | |
| | | | Advanced Tab
| | | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| | | |
| | | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter

I forgot to mention that I have Trend Micro Internet Security on my other 2
computers leaving me one additional seat that I could use on the Win 98
computer. But it seems to be such a LARGE program, that I'm afraid it would
slow it way down. That is assuming it is compatible with Win 98.
Thanks!

"skibuz" wrote:

I have an HP 8760C Pavillion with 448 MB Ram and 733 MHz Processor Intel
Pentium III. I will be using it for my 5 & 6 year old grandsons that have
discovered games on the internet. The only time I will plan to use email is
to transfer an occasional email down to the HP (like the Avast Registration
number). I adjusted the Avast so that the only services a Internet Mail,
Standard Shield and Web Shield. Is it safe to assume I need all of those?
I'll see if that helps the performance. I found where to configure my
Internet Explorer for the Avast, but on Mozilla Firefox, I wasn't sure. Here
is a picture of my Firefox Network setting.
. Is it set correctly? My
email is POP3.

My Linksys WRT610N Router states it has a powerful Firewall. From what you
said, I still need to install a firewall on my Win 98 (HP) computer? For
performance reasons I don't want to install any more programs than I really
need.

I tried to do a Windows Update, but apparently they are no longer offering
Win 98 SE updates. I found an *unofficial* website
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...ice-Pack.shtml. Would you recommend me using this site?

Thanks for your help!
Martha


"MEB" wrote:

Your welcome...

How much memory do you have? And how fast a processor?

You can shutdown some of the services in AVAST! if your not using them,
like P2P, Outlook/Exchange [not OE or other mail programs], and Instant
messaging,
You WILL need to configure your browsers to use a proxy[AVAST] at 127.0.0.1
port 12080 in your connectionsLANAdvanced so your Internet contact can be
monitored and checked for bad stuff. It handles POP3 and IMAP connections
for email which covers most services.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be causing
my
| system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller' Win
98
| AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.
|
| Thanks again for everything!
| Martha
|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | MEB,
| | THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said
and
| | uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then
rebooted.
| It
| | discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
| | EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are
the 3
| HP
| | System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| | reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had
NOT
| | loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
| | adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of
| anything
| | else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled
DRIVERS.
| So
| | I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for
the
| Win
| | 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged
back
| in
| | my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My
best
| | guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
| |
| | THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| | My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| | Martha
|
| I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.
|
| I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I
would
| recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up to
date
| {or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
| DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them...
just
| update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed are
at
| least installed in your system.
| MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using 9X
on
| the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something like
| SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't going
to
| use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router and
part
| of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.
|
| If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
| microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to advise
on
| those issues.
|
| Again, thanks for posting back with the success.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to
255.255.255.0
| and
| | it
| | | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and
| Internet
| | | Explorer.
| |
| | Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping
| worked.
| | Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
| | Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN
settings].
| | {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| | NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
| |
| | |
| | | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the
| IP/subnet
| | | mask have been changed.
| | |
| | | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
Ethernet
| | | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is
that
| what
| | it
| | | should be?
| | |
| | | Thanks!
| | | Martha
| |
| | IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| | AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
| refresh/find
| | the network if available];
| | AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut
it
| off;
| | AND checked the browsers;
| | AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| | AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| | - THEN -
| |
| | Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD
| somewhere
| | like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices
| [modem,
| | netcard, etc]
| |
| | Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI
was
| | unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| | Shutdown -
| | Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
| | reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| | Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| | go to Network
| | re-check everything,
| | make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| | File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
| | AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the
*adapter's*
| TCP/IP
| | settings.
| | Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain
automatically].
| Save,
| | It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
| |
| | Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get
"More
| Info".
| | SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously
| posted.
| | Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a
text
| | file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.
| |
| | Should look something like this:
| | Ethernet adapter :
| |
| | Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| | Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| | DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| | IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| | Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| | Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
| | DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
| | Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| | Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| | Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| | Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
| |
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | |
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | MEB,
| | | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand
about
| the IP
| | | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what
I
| have.
| | I
| | | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a
| Vista
| | Laptop
| | | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP
| hardwired
| | (if
| | | I
| | | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is
| enabled
| | for
| | | SPI
| | | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security
| which
| | has a
| | | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
| | computer
| | | was
| | | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only
did
| the
| | Win 98
| | | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting.
It
| is
| | only
| | | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my
settings
| | correct to
| | | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working
fine
| on
| | the
| | | | Network.
| | | |
| | | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | | Gateway Blank
| | | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | | Bindings to:
| | | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | | |
| | | | Advanced Tab
| | | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| | | |
| | | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter

Stick with AVAST!....

Trend does not support 98.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| I forgot to mention that I have Trend Micro Internet Security on my other
2
| computers leaving me one additional seat that I could use on the Win 98
| computer. But it seems to be such a LARGE program, that I'm afraid it
would
| slow it way down. That is assuming it is compatible with Win 98.
| Thanks!
|
| "skibuz" wrote:
|
| I have an HP 8760C Pavillion with 448 MB Ram and 733 MHz Processor Intel
| Pentium III. I will be using it for my 5 & 6 year old grandsons that
have
| discovered games on the internet. The only time I will plan to use email
is
| to transfer an occasional email down to the HP (like the Avast
Registration
| number). I adjusted the Avast so that the only services a Internet
Mail,
| Standard Shield and Web Shield. Is it safe to assume I need all of
those?
| I'll see if that helps the performance. I found where to configure my
| Internet Explorer for the Avast, but on Mozilla Firefox, I wasn't sure.
Here
| is a picture of my Firefox Network setting.
| . Is it set correctly? My
| email is POP3.
|
| My Linksys WRT610N Router states it has a powerful Firewall. From what
you
| said, I still need to install a firewall on my Win 98 (HP) computer?
For
| performance reasons I don't want to install any more programs than I
really
| need.
|
| I tried to do a Windows Update, but apparently they are no longer
offering
| Win 98 SE updates. I found an *unofficial* website
|
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...s-SE-Service-P
ack.shtml. Would you recommend me using this site?
|
| Thanks for your help!
| Martha
|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| Your welcome...
|
| How much memory do you have? And how fast a processor?
|
| You can shutdown some of the services in AVAST! if your not using
them,
| like P2P, Outlook/Exchange [not OE or other mail programs], and
Instant
| messaging,
| You WILL need to configure your browsers to use a proxy[AVAST] at
127.0.0.1
| port 12080 in your connectionsLANAdvanced so your Internet contact
can be
| monitored and checked for bad stuff. It handles POP3 and IMAP
connections
| for email which covers most services.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be
causing
| my
| | system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller'
Win
| 98
| | AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.
| |
| | Thanks again for everything!
| | Martha
| |
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | MEB,
| | | THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you
said
| and
| | | uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then
| rebooted.
| | It
| | | discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk
labeled HP
| | | EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have
are
| the 3
| | HP
| | | System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| | | reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery.
I had
| NOT
| | | loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might
have the
| | | adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of
lack of
| | anything
| | | else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled
| DRIVERS.
| | So
| | | I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it
asked for
| the
| | Win
| | | 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I
plugged
| back
| | in
| | | my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT
WORKED!! My
| best
| | | guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
| | |
| | | THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| | | My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| | | Martha
| |
| | I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.
| |
| | I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files],
I
| would
| | recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are
up to
| date
| | {or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
| | DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer
them...
| just
| | update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed
are
| at
| | least installed in your system.
| | MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before
using 9X
| on
| | the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something
like
| | SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't
going
| to
| | use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router
and
| part
| | of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.
| |
| | If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
| | microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to
advise
| on
| | those issues.
| |
| | Again, thanks for posting back with the success.
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to
| 255.255.255.0
| | and
| | | it
| | | | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox
and
| | Internet
| | | | Explorer.
| | |
| | | Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the
network ping
| | worked.
| | | Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to
Dial A
| | | Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN
| settings].
| | | {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| | | NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
| | |
| | | |
| | | | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that
the
| | IP/subnet
| | | | mask have been changed.
| | | |
| | | | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100
Fast
| Ethernet
| | | | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present.
Is
| that
| | what
| | | it
| | | | should be?
| | | |
| | | | Thanks!
| | | | Martha
| | |
| | | IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| | | AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
| | refresh/find
| | | the network if available];
| | | AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if
so shut
| it
| | off;
| | | AND checked the browsers;
| | | AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| | | AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| | | - THEN -
| | |
| | | Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on
your HD
| | somewhere
| | | like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network
devices
| | [modem,
| | | netcard, etc]
| | |
| | | Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system.
NetBEUI
| was
| | | unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| | | Shutdown -
| | | Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it
connected}
| | | reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| | | Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| | | go to Network
| | | re-check everything,
| | | make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| | | File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and
printers,
| | | AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the
| *adapter's*
| | TCP/IP
| | | settings.
| | | Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain
| automatically].
| | Save,
| | | It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
| | |
| | | Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to
get
| "More
| | Info".
| | | SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as
previously
| | posted.
| | | Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that
to a
| text
| | | file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a
post.
| | |
| | | Should look something like this:
| | | Ethernet adapter :
| | |
| | | Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family
Adapter
| | | Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| | | DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| | | IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| | | Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| | | Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely
1}
| | | DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely
1}
| | | Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| | | Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| | | Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| | | Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | MEB
| | | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | | a Peoples' counsel
| | | _ _
| | | ~~
| | |
| | | |
| | | | "MEB" wrote:
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "skibuz" wrote in
message
| | | | ...
| | | | | MEB,
| | | | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I
understand
| about
| | the IP
| | | | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this
is what
| I
| | have.
| | | I
| | | | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it
a
| | Vista
| | | Laptop
| | | | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win
98SE HP
| | hardwired
| | | (if
| | | | I
| | | | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that
is
| | enabled
| | | for
| | | | SPI
| | | | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet
Security
| | which
| | | has a
| | | | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my
Win 98SE
| | | computer
| | | | was
| | | | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I
only
| did
| | the
| | | Win 98
| | | | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing
rebooting.
| It
| | is
| | | only
| | | | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my
| settings
| | | correct to
| | | | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are
working
| fine
| | on
| | | the
| | | | | Network.
| | | | |
| | | | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | | | Gateway Blank
| | | | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | | | Bindings to:
| | | | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | | | |
| | | | | Advanced Tab
| | | | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray
box.
| | | | |
| | | | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter

Stick with AVAST!....

Trend does not support 98.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| I forgot to mention that I have Trend Micro Internet Security on my other
2
| computers leaving me one additional seat that I could use on the Win 98
| computer. But it seems to be such a LARGE program, that I'm afraid it
would
| slow it way down. That is assuming it is compatible with Win 98.
| Thanks!
|
| "skibuz" wrote:
|
| I have an HP 8760C Pavillion with 448 MB Ram and 733 MHz Processor Intel
| Pentium III. I will be using it for my 5 & 6 year old grandsons that
have
| discovered games on the internet. The only time I will plan to use email
is
| to transfer an occasional email down to the HP (like the Avast
Registration
| number). I adjusted the Avast so that the only services a Internet
Mail,
| Standard Shield and Web Shield. Is it safe to assume I need all of
those?
| I'll see if that helps the performance. I found where to configure my
| Internet Explorer for the Avast, but on Mozilla Firefox, I wasn't sure.
Here
| is a picture of my Firefox Network setting.
| . Is it set correctly? My
| email is POP3.
|
| My Linksys WRT610N Router states it has a powerful Firewall. From what
you
| said, I still need to install a firewall on my Win 98 (HP) computer?
For
| performance reasons I don't want to install any more programs than I
really
| need.
|
| I tried to do a Windows Update, but apparently they are no longer
offering
| Win 98 SE updates. I found an *unofficial* website
|
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...s-SE-Service-P
ack.shtml. Would you recommend me using this site?
|
| Thanks for your help!
| Martha
|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| Your welcome...
|
| How much memory do you have? And how fast a processor?
|
| You can shutdown some of the services in AVAST! if your not using
them,
| like P2P, Outlook/Exchange [not OE or other mail programs], and
Instant
| messaging,
| You WILL need to configure your browsers to use a proxy[AVAST] at
127.0.0.1
| port 12080 in your connectionsLANAdvanced so your Internet contact
can be
| monitored and checked for bad stuff. It handles POP3 and IMAP
connections
| for email which covers most services.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be
causing
| my
| | system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller'
Win
| 98
| | AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.
| |
| | Thanks again for everything!
| | Martha
| |
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | MEB,
| | | THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you
said
| and
| | | uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then
| rebooted.
| | It
| | | discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk
labeled HP
| | | EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have
are
| the 3
| | HP
| | | System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| | | reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery.
I had
| NOT
| | | loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might
have the
| | | adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of
lack of
| | anything
| | | else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled
| DRIVERS.
| | So
| | | I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it
asked for
| the
| | Win
| | | 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I
plugged
| back
| | in
| | | my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT
WORKED!! My
| best
| | | guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
| | |
| | | THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| | | My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| | | Martha
| |
| | I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.
| |
| | I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files],
I
| would
| | recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are
up to
| date
| | {or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
| | DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer
them...
| just
| | update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed
are
| at
| | least installed in your system.
| | MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before
using 9X
| on
| | the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something
like
| | SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't
going
| to
| | use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router
and
| part
| | of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.
| |
| | If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
| | microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to
advise
| on
| | those issues.
| |
| | Again, thanks for posting back with the success.
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to
| 255.255.255.0
| | and
| | | it
| | | | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox
and
| | Internet
| | | | Explorer.
| | |
| | | Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the
network ping
| | worked.
| | | Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to
Dial A
| | | Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN
| settings].
| | | {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| | | NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
| | |
| | | |
| | | | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that
the
| | IP/subnet
| | | | mask have been changed.
| | | |
| | | | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100
Fast
| Ethernet
| | | | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present.
Is
| that
| | what
| | | it
| | | | should be?
| | | |
| | | | Thanks!
| | | | Martha
| | |
| | | IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| | | AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
| | refresh/find
| | | the network if available];
| | | AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if
so shut
| it
| | off;
| | | AND checked the browsers;
| | | AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| | | AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| | | - THEN -
| | |
| | | Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on
your HD
| | somewhere
| | | like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network
devices
| | [modem,
| | | netcard, etc]
| | |
| | | Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system.
NetBEUI
| was
| | | unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| | | Shutdown -
| | | Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it
connected}
| | | reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| | | Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| | | go to Network
| | | re-check everything,
| | | make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| | | File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and
printers,
| | | AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the
| *adapter's*
| | TCP/IP
| | | settings.
| | | Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain
| automatically].
| | Save,
| | | It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
| | |
| | | Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to
get
| "More
| | Info".
| | | SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as
previously
| | posted.
| | | Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that
to a
| text
| | | file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a
post.
| | |
| | | Should look something like this:
| | | Ethernet adapter :
| | |
| | | Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family
Adapter
| | | Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| | | DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| | | IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| | | Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| | | Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely
1}
| | | DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely
1}
| | | Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| | | Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| | | Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| | | Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | MEB
| | | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | | a Peoples' counsel
| | | _ _
| | | ~~
| | |
| | | |
| | | | "MEB" wrote:
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "skibuz" wrote in
message
| | | | ...
| | | | | MEB,
| | | | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I
understand
| about
| | the IP
| | | | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this
is what
| I
| | have.
| | | I
| | | | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it
a
| | Vista
| | | Laptop
| | | | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win
98SE HP
| | hardwired
| | | (if
| | | | I
| | | | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that
is
| | enabled
| | | for
| | | | SPI
| | | | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet
Security
| | which
| | | has a
| | | | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my
Win 98SE
| | | computer
| | | | was
| | | | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I
only
| did
| | the
| | | Win 98
| | | | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing
rebooting.
| It
| | is
| | | only
| | | | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my
| settings
| | | correct to
| | | | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are
working
| fine
| | on
| | | the
| | | | | Network.
| | | | |
| | | | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | | | Gateway Blank
| | | | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | | | Bindings to:
| | | | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | | | |
| | | | | Advanced Tab
| | | | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray
box.
| | | | |
| | | | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter

"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| I have an HP 8760C Pavillion with 448 MB Ram and 733 MHz Processor Intel
| Pentium III. I will be using it for my 5 & 6 year old grandsons that have
| discovered games on the internet.

That may be a problem. Most online games require FLASH and other programs,
including updated JAVA.
You can use FLASH 9 and SUN JAVA, but these are old versions and may not
support what the kids need.

Make SURE they only use FireFox and that you have install a plugin called
NOSCRIPT so certain issues [like highjacking] can be avoided.
Make sure to pre-setup their access as they are IN your network, and what's
IN the network can infect the rest.
INSTALL SpyWare Blaster and update it. It takes no memory, but blocks lots
of things via the registry.
Get a HOSTS file and install it in the Widows directory.. I use one from
MGDx
http://www.mdgx.com/hosts.htm


| The only time I will plan to use email is
| to transfer an occasional email down to the HP (like the Avast
Registration
| number). I adjusted the Avast so that the only services a Internet
Mail,
| Standard Shield and Web Shield. Is it safe to assume I need all of those?
| I'll see if that helps the performance. I found where to configure my
| Internet Explorer for the Avast, but on Mozilla Firefox, I wasn't sure.
Here
| is a picture of my Firefox Network setting.
| . Is it set correctly? My
| email is POP3.

Use the Manual Proxy 127.0.0.1 Port 12080 for HTTP, FTP, GOPHER. AVAST! does
not do SSL without installing other programs.
OR try Auto-detect in FireFox AFTER configuring IE to the AVAST! proxies.
If it doesn't work use the above.

|
| My Linksys WRT610N Router states it has a powerful Firewall. From what
you
| said, I still need to install a firewall on my Win 98 (HP) computer? For
| performance reasons I don't want to install any more programs than I
really
| need.

Unless it is a software filewall, it will not monitor the programs
attempting to use the Internet or called from the Internet.
Though claiming firewalls or firewall protection, routers and NAT devices
provide only address monitoring. Anything coming from an Internet address to
the local address, related to an address {local or Internet}, or from the
local address will pass through them.

|
| I tried to do a Windows Update, but apparently they are no longer offering
| Win 98 SE updates. I found an *unofficial* website

http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp
Use IE to do the updates. It requires at least IE5.1 or 5.5 to connect.

|
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...s-SE-Service-P
ack.shtml. Would you recommend me using this site?

USE windowsupdate. Though thousands have used that update [and I have tested
it} or others [which I have also tested], they generally include
modifications which may cause problems or be incompatable with some of your
programs.

|
| Thanks for your help!
| Martha
|

Good luck,,, get something like an old version of Kerio PF/Tiny [takes
about 1.8 megs memory] or another older firewall, NOT Zone Alarm though.
Here's some information:

http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se.../firewalls.htm

The links on that page provide some additional information on what you might
want to do.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| Your welcome...
|
| How much memory do you have? And how fast a processor?
|
| You can shutdown some of the services in AVAST! if your not using them,
| like P2P, Outlook/Exchange [not OE or other mail programs], and Instant
| messaging,
| You WILL need to configure your browsers to use a proxy[AVAST] at
127.0.0.1
| port 12080 in your connectionsLANAdvanced so your Internet contact can
be
| monitored and checked for bad stuff. It handles POP3 and IMAP
connections
| for email which covers most services.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be
causing
| my
| | system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller'
Win
| 98
| | AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.
| |
| | Thanks again for everything!
| | Martha
| |
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | MEB,
| | | THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you
said
| and
| | | uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then
| rebooted.
| | It
| | | discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk
labeled HP
| | | EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have
are
| the 3
| | HP
| | | System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| | | reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I
had
| NOT
| | | loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have
the
| | | adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack
of
| | anything
| | | else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled
| DRIVERS.
| | So
| | | I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked
for
| the
| | Win
| | | 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I
plugged
| back
| | in
| | | my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!!
My
| best
| | | guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
| | |
| | | THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| | | My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| | | Martha
| |
| | I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.
| |
| | I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I
| would
| | recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up
to
| date
| | {or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
| | DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them...
| just
| | update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed
are
| at
| | least installed in your system.
| | MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using
9X
| on
| | the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something
like
| | SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't
going
| to
| | use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router
and
| part
| | of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.
| |
| | If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
| | microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to
advise
| on
| | those issues.
| |
| | Again, thanks for posting back with the success.
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to
| 255.255.255.0
| | and
| | | it
| | | | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox
and
| | Internet
| | | | Explorer.
| | |
| | | Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network
ping
| | worked.
| | | Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial
A
| | | Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN
| settings].
| | | {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| | | NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
| | |
| | | |
| | | | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that
the
| | IP/subnet
| | | | mask have been changed.
| | | |
| | | | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
| Ethernet
| | | | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present.
Is
| that
| | what
| | | it
| | | | should be?
| | | |
| | | | Thanks!
| | | | Martha
| | |
| | | IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| | | AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
| | refresh/find
| | | the network if available];
| | | AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so
shut
| it
| | off;
| | | AND checked the browsers;
| | | AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| | | AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| | | - THEN -
| | |
| | | Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your
HD
| | somewhere
| | | like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network
devices
| | [modem,
| | | netcard, etc]
| | |
| | | Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system.
NetBEUI
| was
| | | unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| | | Shutdown -
| | | Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it
connected}
| | | reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| | | Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| | | go to Network
| | | re-check everything,
| | | make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| | | File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and
printers,
| | | AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the
| *adapter's*
| | TCP/IP
| | | settings.
| | | Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain
| automatically].
| | Save,
| | | It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
| | |
| | | Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get
| "More
| | Info".
| | | SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as
previously
| | posted.
| | | Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that
to a
| text
| | | file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a
post.
| | |
| | | Should look something like this:
| | | Ethernet adapter :
| | |
| | | Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family
Adapter
| | | Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| | | DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| | | IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| | | Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| | | Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely
1}
| | | DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
| | | Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| | | Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| | | Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| | | Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | MEB
| | | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | | a Peoples' counsel
| | | _ _
| | | ~~
| | |
| | | |
| | | | "MEB" wrote:
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | | MEB,
| | | | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand
| about
| | the IP
| | | | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is
what
| I
| | have.
| | | I
| | | | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it
a
| | Vista
| | | Laptop
| | | | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE
HP
| | hardwired
| | | (if
| | | | I
| | | | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that
is
| | enabled
| | | for
| | | | SPI
| | | | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet
Security
| | which
| | | has a
| | | | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win
98SE
| | | computer
| | | | was
| | | | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I
only
| did
| | the
| | | Win 98
| | | | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing
rebooting.
| It
| | is
| | | only
| | | | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my
| settings
| | | correct to
| | | | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are
working
| fine
| | on
| | | the
| | | | | Network.
| | | | |
| | | | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | | | Gateway Blank
| | | | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | | | Bindings to:
| | | | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | | | |
| | | | | Advanced Tab
| | | | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray
box.
| | | | |
| | | | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter
| | | | | Binding to:
| | | | | 3COM Diagnostic
| | | | | NetBEUI
| | | | | TCP/IP
| | | | |
| | | | | Advanced tab:
| | | | | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | | | | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | | | | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | | | | Link Wake up Enable
| | | | | IP not present
| | | | |
| | | | | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask
| 255.255.255.0
| | | | | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask
255.255.255.0
| | | | | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask
| 255.255.0.0
| | | |
| | | | Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| | | | It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its
| hardwired,
| | try
| | | making
| | | | it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not
| already
| | | used}.
| | | | Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100
Fast

"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| I have an HP 8760C Pavillion with 448 MB Ram and 733 MHz Processor Intel
| Pentium III. I will be using it for my 5 & 6 year old grandsons that have
| discovered games on the internet.

That may be a problem. Most online games require FLASH and other programs,
including updated JAVA.
You can use FLASH 9 and SUN JAVA, but these are old versions and may not
support what the kids need.

Make SURE they only use FireFox and that you have install a plugin called
NOSCRIPT so certain issues [like highjacking] can be avoided.
Make sure to pre-setup their access as they are IN your network, and what's
IN the network can infect the rest.
INSTALL SpyWare Blaster and update it. It takes no memory, but blocks lots
of things via the registry.
Get a HOSTS file and install it in the Widows directory.. I use one from
MGDx
http://www.mdgx.com/hosts.htm


| The only time I will plan to use email is
| to transfer an occasional email down to the HP (like the Avast
Registration
| number). I adjusted the Avast so that the only services a Internet
Mail,
| Standard Shield and Web Shield. Is it safe to assume I need all of those?
| I'll see if that helps the performance. I found where to configure my
| Internet Explorer for the Avast, but on Mozilla Firefox, I wasn't sure.
Here
| is a picture of my Firefox Network setting.
| . Is it set correctly? My
| email is POP3.

Use the Manual Proxy 127.0.0.1 Port 12080 for HTTP, FTP, GOPHER. AVAST! does
not do SSL without installing other programs.
OR try Auto-detect in FireFox AFTER configuring IE to the AVAST! proxies.
If it doesn't work use the above.

|
| My Linksys WRT610N Router states it has a powerful Firewall. From what
you
| said, I still need to install a firewall on my Win 98 (HP) computer? For
| performance reasons I don't want to install any more programs than I
really
| need.

Unless it is a software filewall, it will not monitor the programs
attempting to use the Internet or called from the Internet.
Though claiming firewalls or firewall protection, routers and NAT devices
provide only address monitoring. Anything coming from an Internet address to
the local address, related to an address {local or Internet}, or from the
local address will pass through them.

|
| I tried to do a Windows Update, but apparently they are no longer offering
| Win 98 SE updates. I found an *unofficial* website

http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp
Use IE to do the updates. It requires at least IE5.1 or 5.5 to connect.

|
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...s-SE-Service-P
ack.shtml. Would you recommend me using this site?

USE windowsupdate. Though thousands have used that update [and I have tested
it} or others [which I have also tested], they generally include
modifications which may cause problems or be incompatable with some of your
programs.

|
| Thanks for your help!
| Martha
|

Good luck,,, get something like an old version of Kerio PF/Tiny [takes
about 1.8 megs memory] or another older firewall, NOT Zone Alarm though.
Here's some information:

http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se.../firewalls.htm

The links on that page provide some additional information on what you might
want to do.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| Your welcome...
|
| How much memory do you have? And how fast a processor?
|
| You can shutdown some of the services in AVAST! if your not using them,
| like P2P, Outlook/Exchange [not OE or other mail programs], and Instant
| messaging,
| You WILL need to configure your browsers to use a proxy[AVAST] at
127.0.0.1
| port 12080 in your connectionsLANAdvanced so your Internet contact can
be
| monitored and checked for bad stuff. It handles POP3 and IMAP
connections
| for email which covers most services.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be
causing
| my
| | system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller'
Win
| 98
| | AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.
| |
| | Thanks again for everything!
| | Martha
| |
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | MEB,
| | | THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you
said
| and
| | | uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then
| rebooted.
| | It
| | | discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk
labeled HP
| | | EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have
are
| the 3
| | HP
| | | System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| | | reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I
had
| NOT
| | | loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have
the
| | | adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack
of
| | anything
| | | else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled
| DRIVERS.
| | So
| | | I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked
for
| the
| | Win
| | | 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I
plugged
| back
| | in
| | | my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!!
My
| best
| | | guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
| | |
| | | THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| | | My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| | | Martha
| |
| | I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.
| |
| | I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I
| would
| | recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up
to
| date
| | {or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
| | DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them...
| just
| | update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed
are
| at
| | least installed in your system.
| | MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using
9X
| on
| | the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something
like
| | SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't
going
| to
| | use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router
and
| part
| | of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.
| |
| | If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
| | microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to
advise
| on
| | those issues.
| |
| | Again, thanks for posting back with the success.
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to
| 255.255.255.0
| | and
| | | it
| | | | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox
and
| | Internet
| | | | Explorer.
| | |
| | | Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network
ping
| | worked.
| | | Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial
A
| | | Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN
| settings].
| | | {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| | | NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
| | |
| | | |
| | | | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that
the
| | IP/subnet
| | | | mask have been changed.
| | | |
| | | | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
| Ethernet
| | | | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present.
Is
| that
| | what
| | | it
| | | | should be?
| | | |
| | | | Thanks!
| | | | Martha
| | |
| | | IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| | | AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
| | refresh/find
| | | the network if available];
| | | AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so
shut
| it
| | off;
| | | AND checked the browsers;
| | | AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| | | AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| | | - THEN -
| | |
| | | Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your
HD
| | somewhere
| | | like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network
devices
| | [modem,
| | | netcard, etc]
| | |
| | | Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system.
NetBEUI
| was
| | | unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| | | Shutdown -
| | | Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it
connected}
| | | reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| | | Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| | | go to Network
| | | re-check everything,
| | | make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| | | File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and
printers,
| | | AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the
| *adapter's*
| | TCP/IP
| | | settings.
| | | Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain
| automatically].
| | Save,
| | | It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
| | |
| | | Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get
| "More
| | Info".
| | | SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as
previously
| | posted.
| | | Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that
to a
| text
| | | file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a
post.
| | |
| | | Should look something like this:
| | | Ethernet adapter :
| | |
| | | Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family
Adapter
| | | Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| | | DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| | | IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| | | Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| | | Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely
1}
| | | DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
| | | Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| | | Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| | | Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| | | Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | MEB
| | | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | | a Peoples' counsel
| | | _ _
| | | ~~
| | |
| | | |
| | | | "MEB" wrote:
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | | MEB,
| | | | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand
| about
| | the IP
| | | | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is
what
| I
| | have.
| | | I
| | | | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it
a
| | Vista
| | | Laptop
| | | | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE
HP
| | hardwired
| | | (if
| | | | I
| | | | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that
is
| | enabled
| | | for
| | | | SPI
| | | | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet
Security
| | which
| | | has a
| | | | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win
98SE
| | | computer
| | | | was
| | | | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I
only
| did
| | the
| | | Win 98
| | | | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing
rebooting.
| It
| | is
| | | only
| | | | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my
| settings
| | | correct to
| | | | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are
working
| fine
| | on
| | | the
| | | | | Network.
| | | | |
| | | | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | | | Gateway Blank
| | | | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | | | Bindings to:
| | | | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | | | |
| | | | | Advanced Tab
| | | | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray
box.
| | | | |
| | | | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter
| | | | | Binding to:
| | | | | 3COM Diagnostic
| | | | | NetBEUI
| | | | | TCP/IP
| | | | |
| | | | | Advanced tab:
| | | | | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | | | | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | | | | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | | | | Link Wake up Enable
| | | | | IP not present
| | | | |
| | | | | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask
| 255.255.255.0
| | | | | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask
255.255.255.0
| | | | | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask
| 255.255.0.0
| | | |
| | | | Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| | | | It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its
| hardwired,
| | try
| | | making
| | | | it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not
| already
| | | used}.
| | | | Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100
Fast

MEB,
On the Firefox Proxy settings, do I need to leave
No Proxy for: localhost, 127.0.0.1?


I got NoScript installed on Firefox. I had it installed on my laptop, but
disabled it because it popped up constantly. Maybe I should revisit that
decision.

My Internet Explorer is Version 5.00.2614.3500. Perhaps that is why the
Microsoft Updates didn't work? I found on the General Forum a link to IE6.
It says it is compatible with Win 98 so is that the version I should
download? After I get a compatible Internet Explorer, I'll try again on the
Microsoft Updates.

What does mdgx.com/hosts.htm do? You referred to it as a HOSTS file.

Do I need all 3 Avast providers? Web Shield, Standard Shield and Internet
Mail are the ones I have active.

In my Add/Remove Programs I show Adobe Flash Player ActiveX, but not Flash 9
or Sun Java. So I'll find those and get them downloaded as well.

Thank you so much for your help!
Martha

"MEB" wrote:


"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| I have an HP 8760C Pavillion with 448 MB Ram and 733 MHz Processor Intel
| Pentium III. I will be using it for my 5 & 6 year old grandsons that have
| discovered games on the internet.

That may be a problem. Most online games require FLASH and other programs,
including updated JAVA.
You can use FLASH 9 and SUN JAVA, but these are old versions and may not
support what the kids need.

Make SURE they only use FireFox and that you have install a plugin called
NOSCRIPT so certain issues [like highjacking] can be avoided.
Make sure to pre-setup their access as they are IN your network, and what's
IN the network can infect the rest.
INSTALL SpyWare Blaster and update it. It takes no memory, but blocks lots
of things via the registry.
Get a HOSTS file and install it in the Widows directory.. I use one from
MGDx
http://www.mdgx.com/hosts.htm


| The only time I will plan to use email is
| to transfer an occasional email down to the HP (like the Avast
Registration
| number). I adjusted the Avast so that the only services a Internet
Mail,
| Standard Shield and Web Shield. Is it safe to assume I need all of those?
| I'll see if that helps the performance. I found where to configure my
| Internet Explorer for the Avast, but on Mozilla Firefox, I wasn't sure.
Here
| is a picture of my Firefox Network setting.
| . Is it set correctly? My
| email is POP3.

Use the Manual Proxy 127.0.0.1 Port 12080 for HTTP, FTP, GOPHER. AVAST! does
not do SSL without installing other programs.
OR try Auto-detect in FireFox AFTER configuring IE to the AVAST! proxies.
If it doesn't work use the above.

|
| My Linksys WRT610N Router states it has a powerful Firewall. From what
you
| said, I still need to install a firewall on my Win 98 (HP) computer? For
| performance reasons I don't want to install any more programs than I
really
| need.

Unless it is a software filewall, it will not monitor the programs
attempting to use the Internet or called from the Internet.
Though claiming firewalls or firewall protection, routers and NAT devices
provide only address monitoring. Anything coming from an Internet address to
the local address, related to an address {local or Internet}, or from the
local address will pass through them.

|
| I tried to do a Windows Update, but apparently they are no longer offering
| Win 98 SE updates. I found an *unofficial* website

http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp
Use IE to do the updates. It requires at least IE5.1 or 5.5 to connect.

|
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...s-SE-Service-P
ack.shtml. Would you recommend me using this site?

USE windowsupdate. Though thousands have used that update [and I have tested
it} or others [which I have also tested], they generally include
modifications which may cause problems or be incompatable with some of your
programs.

|
| Thanks for your help!
| Martha
|

Good luck,,, get something like an old version of Kerio PF/Tiny [takes
about 1.8 megs memory] or another older firewall, NOT Zone Alarm though.
Here's some information:

http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se.../firewalls.htm

The links on that page provide some additional information on what you might
want to do.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| Your welcome...
|
| How much memory do you have? And how fast a processor?
|
| You can shutdown some of the services in AVAST! if your not using them,
| like P2P, Outlook/Exchange [not OE or other mail programs], and Instant
| messaging,
| You WILL need to configure your browsers to use a proxy[AVAST] at
127.0.0.1
| port 12080 in your connectionsLANAdvanced so your Internet contact can
be
| monitored and checked for bad stuff. It handles POP3 and IMAP
connections
| for email which covers most services.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be
causing
| my
| | system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller'
Win
| 98
| | AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.
| |
| | Thanks again for everything!
| | Martha
| |
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | MEB,
| | | THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you
said
| and
| | | uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then
| rebooted.
| | It
| | | discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk
labeled HP
| | | EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have
are
| the 3
| | HP
| | | System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| | | reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I
had
| NOT
| | | loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have
the
| | | adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack
of
| | anything
| | | else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled
| DRIVERS.
| | So
| | | I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked
for
| the
| | Win
| | | 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I
plugged
| back
| | in
| | | my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!!
My
| best
| | | guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
| | |
| | | THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| | | My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| | | Martha
| |
| | I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.
| |
| | I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I
| would
| | recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up
to
| date
| | {or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
| | DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them...
| just
| | update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed
are
| at
| | least installed in your system.
| | MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using
9X
| on
| | the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something
like
| | SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't
going
| to
| | use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router
and
| part
| | of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.
| |
| | If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
| | microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to
advise
| on
| | those issues.
| |
| | Again, thanks for posting back with the success.
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to
| 255.255.255.0
| | and
| | | it
| | | | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox
and
| | Internet
| | | | Explorer.
| | |
| | | Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network
ping
| | worked.
| | | Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial
A
| | | Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN
| settings].
| | | {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| | | NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
| | |
| | | |
| | | | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that
the
| | IP/subnet
| | | | mask have been changed.
| | | |
| | | | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
| Ethernet
| | | | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present.
Is
| that
| | what
| | | it
| | | | should be?
| | | |
| | | | Thanks!
| | | | Martha
| | |
| | | IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| | | AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
| | refresh/find
| | | the network if available];
| | | AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so
shut
| it
| | off;
| | | AND checked the browsers;
| | | AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| | | AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| | | - THEN -
| | |
| | | Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your
HD
| | somewhere
| | | like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network
devices
| | [modem,
| | | netcard, etc]
| | |
| | | Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system.
NetBEUI
| was
| | | unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| | | Shutdown -
| | | Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it
connected}
| | | reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| | | Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| | | go to Network
| | | re-check everything,
| | | make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| | | File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and
printers,
| | | AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the
| *adapter's*
| | TCP/IP
| | | settings.