network setup wizard

win98 sucks

Hi Steve,

Since my first reply to your instruction, I have had a play and have looked
inside my routers for some information.

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new wireless
router.

I still do not have internet on the winXP upstairs.

As I say, I had a look "inside" the broadband router. I run a test to see if
it was connected to the internet (as I new it was), so I could extract the
"numbers".

It listed "ping default gateway" as 217.**.***.***and "ping primary DNS" as
217.**.***.* .

I then went up to the winXP PC and in command prompt I entered ping the
default gateway numbers from the router - 217. etc, and got a reply - or
four infact.
Same for primary dns -. four replies.

But when I followed your instructions and ran the "network connection
details" :-

all look okay
but dns server is 0.0.0.0

got replies from:-

ip address
default gateway
but dns server is invalid

As you can see it said DNS server is 0.0.0.0
and when I pinged 0.0.0.0 it said DNS is invalid

Don't know if this helps, so can you take the lead on this.

Can I point out that I am just a beginner at this computer stuff (a real
beginner), and do not know very much at all.

Which is why you guy's (and girls) are so amazing

Many thanks Steve (and Beryl)








"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote in message
...
In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi

I have just set up a wireless network

We have this computer downstairs running win 98SE, I have connected a
3com
wireless router to this computer with an Ethernet cable.
We have a computer upstairs running win XP, to which I have fitted a
wireless network adapter into one of thePCI slots.

The computer upstairs is saying that it is connected to a network, but
it
cannot connect to the internet, I have not tried sharing files yet.

The trouble shooter on the xp machine says to use the network set-up
wizard
on the win 98 PC to configure it first.

In programsaccessories I cannot find the network set-up wizard.

Can I download it from somewhere, or from the win98 cd, or someother
way.

Many thanks

Steve

I've written a web page describing how to run XP's Network Setup
Wizard on Win98SE:

XP ICS - Starting the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm

If you don't have an XP CD or a floppy disk drive, copy the Wizard's
executable file to a USB flash drive or CD and run it on Win98SE:

C:\Windows\System32\Netsetup.exe

Tell the Wizard that the computer connects to the Internet through a
residential gateway (router).

On Win98SE, see if the network adapter is getting its TCP/IP
properties assigned by the router: go to Start Run winipcfg, then
select the adapter from the menu.

thanks for that

I had a friend upload the wizard onto his web site, from where I
downloaded
it.

After a few attempts to configure the pc's, I now have a network.

Next problem, I still cannot connect to the internet on the XP machine
upstairs.

This PC downstairs is the win98 machine and is not wireless like the xp
machine upstairs.

This win98 PC is connected to the wireless router via an ethernet cable.

Any ideas on what I can do to connect the winXP PC to the internet.

The XP PC has been connected to the internet in the past and has internet
explorer installed

Many thanks

Steve

You're welcome, Steve. On the XP machine upstairs, check the status
of the wired network connection:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right-click the LAN connection.
3. Click Status Support Details.

What does it show for these values: IP Address, Subnet Mask, Default
Gateway, DHCP Server, DNS Server?

The IP address should look like 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x. If it does,
open a command prompt window (Start Run cmd) and type these lines,
substituting the actual addresses. Each one should get four replies:

ping IP Address
ping Default Gateway
ping DNS Server

For example:

ping 192.168.1.101
ping 192.168.1.1
ping 192.168.1.1

If that works, type these commands, which should also get four
replies:

ping 4.2.2.1
ping google.com
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Hi Steve,

Since my first reply to your instruction, I have had a play and have looked
inside my routers for some information.

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new wireless
router.

I still do not have internet on the winXP upstairs.

As I say, I had a look "inside" the broadband router. I run a test to see if
it was connected to the internet (as I new it was), so I could extract the
"numbers".

It listed "ping default gateway" as 217.**.***.***and "ping primary DNS" as
217.**.***.* .

I then went up to the winXP PC and in command prompt I entered ping the
default gateway numbers from the router - 217. etc, and got a reply - or
four infact.
Same for primary dns -. four replies.

But when I followed your instructions and ran the "network connection
details" :-

all look okay
but dns server is 0.0.0.0

got replies from:-

ip address
default gateway
but dns server is invalid

As you can see it said DNS server is 0.0.0.0
and when I pinged 0.0.0.0 it said DNS is invalid

Don't know if this helps, so can you take the lead on this.

Can I point out that I am just a beginner at this computer stuff (a real
beginner), and do not know very much at all.

Which is why you guy's (and girls) are so amazing

Many thanks Steve (and Beryl)








"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote in message
...
In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi

I have just set up a wireless network

We have this computer downstairs running win 98SE, I have connected a
3com
wireless router to this computer with an Ethernet cable.
We have a computer upstairs running win XP, to which I have fitted a
wireless network adapter into one of thePCI slots.

The computer upstairs is saying that it is connected to a network, but
it
cannot connect to the internet, I have not tried sharing files yet.

The trouble shooter on the xp machine says to use the network set-up
wizard
on the win 98 PC to configure it first.

In programsaccessories I cannot find the network set-up wizard.

Can I download it from somewhere, or from the win98 cd, or someother
way.

Many thanks

Steve

I've written a web page describing how to run XP's Network Setup
Wizard on Win98SE:

XP ICS - Starting the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm

If you don't have an XP CD or a floppy disk drive, copy the Wizard's
executable file to a USB flash drive or CD and run it on Win98SE:

C:\Windows\System32\Netsetup.exe

Tell the Wizard that the computer connects to the Internet through a
residential gateway (router).

On Win98SE, see if the network adapter is getting its TCP/IP
properties assigned by the router: go to Start Run winipcfg, then
select the adapter from the menu.

thanks for that

I had a friend upload the wizard onto his web site, from where I
downloaded
it.

After a few attempts to configure the pc's, I now have a network.

Next problem, I still cannot connect to the internet on the XP machine
upstairs.

This PC downstairs is the win98 machine and is not wireless like the xp
machine upstairs.

This win98 PC is connected to the wireless router via an ethernet cable.

Any ideas on what I can do to connect the winXP PC to the internet.

The XP PC has been connected to the internet in the past and has internet
explorer installed

Many thanks

Steve

You're welcome, Steve. On the XP machine upstairs, check the status
of the wired network connection:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right-click the LAN connection.
3. Click Status Support Details.

What does it show for these values: IP Address, Subnet Mask, Default
Gateway, DHCP Server, DNS Server?

The IP address should look like 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x. If it does,
open a command prompt window (Start Run cmd) and type these lines,
substituting the actual addresses. Each one should get four replies:

ping IP Address
ping Default Gateway
ping DNS Server

For example:

ping 192.168.1.101
ping 192.168.1.1
ping 192.168.1.1

If that works, type these commands, which should also get four
replies:

ping 4.2.2.1
ping google.com
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Since my first reply to your instruction, I have had a play and have looked
inside my routers for some information.

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new wireless
router.

I still do not have internet on the winXP upstairs.

As I say, I had a look "inside" the broadband router. I run a test to see if
it was connected to the internet (as I new it was), so I could extract theh
"numbers".

It listed "ping default gateway" as 217.**.***.***and "ping primary DNS" as
217.**.***.* .

I then went up to the winXP PC and in command prompt I entered ping the
default gateway numbers from the router - 217. etc, and got a reply - or
four infact.
Same for primary dns -. four replies.

But when I followed your instructions and ran the "network connection
details" :-

all look okay
but dns server is 0.0.0.0

got replies from:-

ip address
default gateway
but dns server is invalid

As you can see it said DNS server is 0.0.0.0
and when I pinged 0.0.0.0 it said DNS is invalid

Don't know if this helps, so can you take the lead on this.

Can I point out that I am just a beginner at this computer stuff (a real
beginner), and do not know very much at all.

Which is why you guy's (and girls) are so amazing

Many thanks Steve (and Beryl)

You're welcome. You've found the problem: the invalid DNS server
address on the upstairs computer.

Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.

If you assign that computer's IP address manually, you also have to
assign its DNS server address. Use the 217.**.***.* value.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Since my first reply to your instruction, I have had a play and have looked
inside my routers for some information.

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new wireless
router.

I still do not have internet on the winXP upstairs.

As I say, I had a look "inside" the broadband router. I run a test to see if
it was connected to the internet (as I new it was), so I could extract theh
"numbers".

It listed "ping default gateway" as 217.**.***.***and "ping primary DNS" as
217.**.***.* .

I then went up to the winXP PC and in command prompt I entered ping the
default gateway numbers from the router - 217. etc, and got a reply - or
four infact.
Same for primary dns -. four replies.

But when I followed your instructions and ran the "network connection
details" :-

all look okay
but dns server is 0.0.0.0

got replies from:-

ip address
default gateway
but dns server is invalid

As you can see it said DNS server is 0.0.0.0
and when I pinged 0.0.0.0 it said DNS is invalid

Don't know if this helps, so can you take the lead on this.

Can I point out that I am just a beginner at this computer stuff (a real
beginner), and do not know very much at all.

Which is why you guy's (and girls) are so amazing

Many thanks Steve (and Beryl)

You're welcome. You've found the problem: the invalid DNS server
address on the upstairs computer.

Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.

If you assign that computer's IP address manually, you also have to
assign its DNS server address. Use the 217.**.***.* value.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Thank you so much,

Could you advise on where and how I should do this.

Many thanks Steve
"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote in message
...
In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Since my first reply to your instruction, I have had a play and have
looked
inside my routers for some information.

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I
left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the
usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new
wireless
router.

I still do not have internet on the winXP upstairs.

As I say, I had a look "inside" the broadband router. I run a test to see
if
it was connected to the internet (as I new it was), so I could extract
theh
"numbers".

It listed "ping default gateway" as 217.**.***.***and "ping primary DNS"
as
217.**.***.* .

I then went up to the winXP PC and in command prompt I entered ping the
default gateway numbers from the router - 217. etc, and got a reply - or
four infact.
Same for primary dns -. four replies.

But when I followed your instructions and ran the "network connection
details" :-

all look okay
but dns server is 0.0.0.0

got replies from:-

ip address
default gateway
but dns server is invalid

As you can see it said DNS server is 0.0.0.0
and when I pinged 0.0.0.0 it said DNS is invalid

Don't know if this helps, so can you take the lead on this.

Can I point out that I am just a beginner at this computer stuff (a real
beginner), and do not know very much at all.

Which is why you guy's (and girls) are so amazing

Many thanks Steve (and Beryl)

You're welcome. You've found the problem: the invalid DNS server
address on the upstairs computer.

Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.

If you assign that computer's IP address manually, you also have to
assign its DNS server address. Use the 217.**.***.* value.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Thank you so much,

Could you advise on where and how I should do this.

Many thanks Steve
"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote in message
...
In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Since my first reply to your instruction, I have had a play and have
looked
inside my routers for some information.

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I
left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the
usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new
wireless
router.

I still do not have internet on the winXP upstairs.

As I say, I had a look "inside" the broadband router. I run a test to see
if
it was connected to the internet (as I new it was), so I could extract
theh
"numbers".

It listed "ping default gateway" as 217.**.***.***and "ping primary DNS"
as
217.**.***.* .

I then went up to the winXP PC and in command prompt I entered ping the
default gateway numbers from the router - 217. etc, and got a reply - or
four infact.
Same for primary dns -. four replies.

But when I followed your instructions and ran the "network connection
details" :-

all look okay
but dns server is 0.0.0.0

got replies from:-

ip address
default gateway
but dns server is invalid

As you can see it said DNS server is 0.0.0.0
and when I pinged 0.0.0.0 it said DNS is invalid

Don't know if this helps, so can you take the lead on this.

Can I point out that I am just a beginner at this computer stuff (a real
beginner), and do not know very much at all.

Which is why you guy's (and girls) are so amazing

Many thanks Steve (and Beryl)

You're welcome. You've found the problem: the invalid DNS server
address on the upstairs computer.

Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.

If you assign that computer's IP address manually, you also have to
assign its DNS server address. Use the 217.**.***.* value.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Since my first reply to your instruction, I have had a play and have looked
inside my routers for some information.

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new wireless
router.

I still do not have internet on the winXP upstairs.

As I say, I had a look "inside" the broadband router. I run a test to see if
it was connected to the internet (as I new it was), so I could extract theh
"numbers".

It listed "ping default gateway" as 217.**.***.***and "ping primary DNS" as
217.**.***.* .

I then went up to the winXP PC and in command prompt I entered ping the
default gateway numbers from the router - 217. etc, and got a reply - or
four infact.
Same for primary dns -. four replies.

But when I followed your instructions and ran the "network connection
details" :-

all look okay
but dns server is 0.0.0.0

got replies from:-

ip address
default gateway
but dns server is invalid

As you can see it said DNS server is 0.0.0.0
and when I pinged 0.0.0.0 it said DNS is invalid

Don't know if this helps, so can you take the lead on this.

Can I point out that I am just a beginner at this computer stuff (a real
beginner), and do not know very much at all.

Which is why you guy's (and girls) are so amazing

Many thanks Steve (and Beryl)

You're welcome. You've found the problem: the invalid DNS server
address on the upstairs computer.

Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.

If you assign that computer's IP address manually, you also have to
assign its DNS server address. Use the 217.**.***.* value.

Thank you so much,

Could you advise on where and how I should do this.

You're welcome. To configure the network connection:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right-click LAN connection.
3. Click Properties.
4. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".
5. Click Properties.

To have your router assign all the values, click "Obtain an IP address
automatically" and "Obtain DNS server address automatically".

To manually assign the values, click "Use the following IP address"
and "Use the following DNS server addresses" and enter the values.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Since my first reply to your instruction, I have had a play and have looked
inside my routers for some information.

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new wireless
router.

I still do not have internet on the winXP upstairs.

As I say, I had a look "inside" the broadband router. I run a test to see if
it was connected to the internet (as I new it was), so I could extract theh
"numbers".

It listed "ping default gateway" as 217.**.***.***and "ping primary DNS" as
217.**.***.* .

I then went up to the winXP PC and in command prompt I entered ping the
default gateway numbers from the router - 217. etc, and got a reply - or
four infact.
Same for primary dns -. four replies.

But when I followed your instructions and ran the "network connection
details" :-

all look okay
but dns server is 0.0.0.0

got replies from:-

ip address
default gateway
but dns server is invalid

As you can see it said DNS server is 0.0.0.0
and when I pinged 0.0.0.0 it said DNS is invalid

Don't know if this helps, so can you take the lead on this.

Can I point out that I am just a beginner at this computer stuff (a real
beginner), and do not know very much at all.

Which is why you guy's (and girls) are so amazing

Many thanks Steve (and Beryl)

You're welcome. You've found the problem: the invalid DNS server
address on the upstairs computer.

Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.

If you assign that computer's IP address manually, you also have to
assign its DNS server address. Use the 217.**.***.* value.

Thank you so much,

Could you advise on where and how I should do this.

You're welcome. To configure the network connection:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right-click LAN connection.
3. Click Properties.
4. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".
5. Click Properties.

To have your router assign all the values, click "Obtain an IP address
automatically" and "Obtain DNS server address automatically".

To manually assign the values, click "Use the following IP address"
and "Use the following DNS server addresses" and enter the values.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Thankyou,

Will let you know how I get on.

Steve
"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote in message
news
In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Since my first reply to your instruction, I have had a play and have
looked
inside my routers for some information.

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I
left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the
usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new
wireless
router.

I still do not have internet on the winXP upstairs.

As I say, I had a look "inside" the broadband router. I run a test to
see if
it was connected to the internet (as I new it was), so I could extract
theh
"numbers".

It listed "ping default gateway" as 217.**.***.***and "ping primary
DNS" as
217.**.***.* .

I then went up to the winXP PC and in command prompt I entered ping
the
default gateway numbers from the router - 217. etc, and got a reply -
or
four infact.
Same for primary dns -. four replies.

But when I followed your instructions and ran the "network connection
details" :-

all look okay
but dns server is 0.0.0.0

got replies from:-

ip address
default gateway
but dns server is invalid

As you can see it said DNS server is 0.0.0.0
and when I pinged 0.0.0.0 it said DNS is invalid

Don't know if this helps, so can you take the lead on this.

Can I point out that I am just a beginner at this computer stuff (a
real
beginner), and do not know very much at all.

Which is why you guy's (and girls) are so amazing

Many thanks Steve (and Beryl)

You're welcome. You've found the problem: the invalid DNS server
address on the upstairs computer.

Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.

If you assign that computer's IP address manually, you also have to
assign its DNS server address. Use the 217.**.***.* value.

Thank you so much,

Could you advise on where and how I should do this.

You're welcome. To configure the network connection:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right-click LAN connection.
3. Click Properties.
4. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".
5. Click Properties.

To have your router assign all the values, click "Obtain an IP address
automatically" and "Obtain DNS server address automatically".

To manually assign the values, click "Use the following IP address"
and "Use the following DNS server addresses" and enter the values.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm