system restore not..

i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down before it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

It's possible that you haven't installed the System Restore Patch - without
which any current restore points are just space fillers.
To check this, look for the file C:\Windows\System\SMGR.DLL - r-click on the
file, and select Properties.
What's the version number? - if it's v4.90.0.3003 then you have installed
the patch, and we have to look elsewhere for the problem
if it's v4.90.0.2533, then you need to install the patch.

To install the patch, either visit Windows Update, or go here, and download
the patch for offline install
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q290700
Run the installer, and windows should reset System Restore at the same time,
clearing your old restore points (which wouldn't have worked, anyhow), and
creating a single new one.
You should then reset the maximum allocation for SR by going to the
adjustment slider at System Properties | Performance | File System | Hard
Disk - most people find that 200-400MB is quite sufficient for most
purposes, unless installing/uninstalling large applications such as Office.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down before it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system restore. That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help, System Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down before it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System Properties|Performance|File System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set to view Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system restore. That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help, System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down before it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

noel..
performance: 200 mb
disk space min.
restore size 646mb
size disk 797mb
contain 10,598files
folder 5
attribute-hidden.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System Properties|Performance|File System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set to view Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

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"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system restore. That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help, System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down before it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

added: version# v.90.0.3003

"Noel Paton" wrote:

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System Properties|Performance|File System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set to view Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system restore. That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help, System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down before it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

i also noted that in system restore the past 7-8 days each date was in bold
#'s. i found that unusual.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System Properties|Performance|File System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set to view Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system restore. That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help, System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down before it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

(that's the way it *should* be!!)

10,000 -odd files?
are you running Norton Software of any kind?



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i also noted that in system restore the past 7-8 days each date was in
bold
#'s. i found that unusual.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System Properties|Performance|File
System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set to view
Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system restore.
That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help, System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down before
it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

Noel:
If I may, I have three of these files (smgr.dll) present, one system and
two options files, all the same with 211 KB's.
Is it ok to delete one of the options files, since they seem to be
duplicates?
The version is up-to-date.

Harry.

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...


It's possible that you haven't installed the System Restore Patch -
without
which any current restore points are just space fillers.
To check this, look for the file C:\Windows\System\SMGR.DLL - r-click on
the
file, and select Properties.
What's the version number? - if it's v4.90.0.3003 then you have installed
the patch, and we have to look elsewhere for the problem
if it's v4.90.0.2533, then you need to install the patch.

To install the patch, either visit Windows Update, or go here, and
download
the patch for offline install
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q290700
Run the installer, and windows should reset System Restore at the same
time,
clearing your old restore points (which wouldn't have worked, anyhow), and
creating a single new one.
You should then reset the maximum allocation for SR by going to the
adjustment slider at System Properties | Performance | File System | Hard
Disk - most people find that 200-400MB is quite sufficient for most
purposes, unless installing/uninstalling large applications such as
Office.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down before it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

Harry,

I've got to ask: why do you feel a need to delete a 211KB file?

Basically, they're not duplicates. One is the copy of the updated file - the
backup. The other is the original version, in it's .cab file. You mustn't
start trying to delete files from within the cabs.


Shane


"webster72n" wrote in message
...

Noel:
If I may, I have three of these files (smgr.dll) present, one system and
two options files, all the same with 211 KB's.
Is it ok to delete one of the options files, since they seem to be
duplicates?
The version is up-to-date.

Harry.

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...


It's possible that you haven't installed the System Restore Patch -
without
which any current restore points are just space fillers.
To check this, look for the file C:\Windows\System\SMGR.DLL - r-click on
the
file, and select Properties.
What's the version number? - if it's v4.90.0.3003 then you have installed
the patch, and we have to look elsewhere for the problem
if it's v4.90.0.2533, then you need to install the patch.

To install the patch, either visit Windows Update, or go here, and
download
the patch for offline install
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q290700
Run the installer, and windows should reset System Restore at the same
time,
clearing your old restore points (which wouldn't have worked, anyhow),
and
creating a single new one.
You should then reset the maximum allocation for SR by going to the
adjustment slider at System Properties | Performance | File System | Hard
Disk - most people find that 200-400MB is quite sufficient for most
purposes, unless installing/uninstalling large applications such as
Office.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down before
it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.