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  #1  
Old May 31st 04, 03:57 AM
Minnie Bannister
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Default Tape backup

When I reinstalled Win98SE, I was pleased to see that my Sony SCSI DAT
tape drive was recognized (displayed in Device Manager). My euphoria was
shortlived when I discovered that the backup utility still offers only a
disk file as a backup destination.

How do I get the backup utility to see the tape drive?

MB
  #2  
Old May 31st 04, 05:05 AM
Don Schmidt
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Default Tape backup

What backup program are you using? BackUp My PC works with tape, cd, dvd or
even to a hard disk.

Could be you need to reinstall your program again after the tape drive
install. Or, maybe your backup program needs a new driver to see your tape
drive.

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"Minnie Bannister" wrote in message
...
When I reinstalled Win98SE, I was pleased to see that my Sony SCSI DAT
tape drive was recognized (displayed in Device Manager). My euphoria was
shortlived when I discovered that the backup utility still offers only a
disk file as a backup destination.

How do I get the backup utility to see the tape drive?

MB



  #3  
Old May 31st 04, 05:40 AM
Minnie Bannister
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Default Tape backup

I'm trying to use the Backup utility included with Win98SE. When I go to
the screen where I choose to install it (it doesn't get installed by
default), it says it supports tape devices.

MB


On 05/31/04 12:05 am Don Schmidt put fingers to keyboard and launched
the following message into cyberspace:

What backup program are you using? BackUp My PC works with tape, cd, dvd or
even to a hard disk.

Could be you need to reinstall your program again after the tape drive
install. Or, maybe your backup program needs a new driver to see your tape
drive.

  #4  
Old May 31st 04, 07:09 AM
Jeff Richards
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Default Tape backup

You might be better off using the backup program supplied with the tape
drive. Please see:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];242864
Tape Backup Units Supported by the Windows 98 Backup Program
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98
"Minnie Bannister" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to use the Backup utility included with Win98SE. When I go to
the screen where I choose to install it (it doesn't get installed by
default), it says it supports tape devices.

MB


On 05/31/04 12:05 am Don Schmidt put fingers to keyboard and launched
the following message into cyberspace:

What backup program are you using? BackUp My PC works with tape, cd,

dvd or
even to a hard disk.

Could be you need to reinstall your program again after the tape drive
install. Or, maybe your backup program needs a new driver to see your

tape
drive.


  #6  
Old May 31st 04, 01:09 PM
Don@NoSpam
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Default (OT)Tape backup philosophy

As usual I probably am out of step with the world, but I've never cared
for tape backup. That was really driven home on an HP 1000 system on time
when the tape drive refused to read beyond record #n for whatever reason.

Not only that, supposed I backup my OS with some compressing BU scheme
and I want to recover the Registry. How now brown cow? I've opted to
BU to CDs on an selected file basis. If I have to reinstall Win it
certainly does no good to recover from an image of the previous system.

I'd appreciate learing from tape backup advocates...

Don


Jeff Richards wrote:

You might be better off using the backup program supplied with the tape
drive. Please see:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];242864
Tape Backup Units Supported by the Windows 98 Backup Program
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98
"Minnie Bannister" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to use the Backup utility included with Win98SE. When I go to
the screen where I choose to install it (it doesn't get installed by
default), it says it supports tape devices.

MB


On 05/31/04 12:05 am Don Schmidt put fingers to keyboard and launched
the following message into cyberspace:

What backup program are you using? BackUp My PC works with tape, cd,

dvd or
even to a hard disk.

Could be you need to reinstall your program again after the tape drive
install. Or, maybe your backup program needs a new driver to see your

tape
drive.

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  #7  
Old May 31st 04, 01:33 PM
Richard G. Harper
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Default (OT)Tape backup philosophy

Unless you're backing up huge amounts of data (in the range of 4gb or more)
I would eschew tape backup entirely and consider an image-based backup. All
the current market leaders in the drive imaging software market allow
single-file restore from a backup.

With hard drive space being relatively cheap a good backup strategy would
involve buying a second hard drive and using your image-based backup utility
to store backups on the second drive. If you buy a big enough hard drive
you can keep several backups stored on it so you can step back and recover
from a past time if necessary.

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Don@NoSpam wrote in message ...
As usual I probably am out of step with the world, but I've never cared
for tape backup. That was really driven home on an HP 1000 system on time
when the tape drive refused to read beyond record #n for whatever reason.

Not only that, supposed I backup my OS with some compressing BU scheme
and I want to recover the Registry. How now brown cow? I've opted to
BU to CDs on an selected file basis. If I have to reinstall Win it
certainly does no good to recover from an image of the previous system.

I'd appreciate learing from tape backup advocates...

Don


Jeff Richards wrote:

You might be better off using the backup program supplied with the tape
drive. Please see:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];242864
Tape Backup Units Supported by the Windows 98 Backup Program
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98
"Minnie Bannister" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to use the Backup utility included with Win98SE. When I go

to
the screen where I choose to install it (it doesn't get installed by
default), it says it supports tape devices.

MB


On 05/31/04 12:05 am Don Schmidt put fingers to keyboard and launched
the following message into cyberspace:

What backup program are you using? BackUp My PC works with tape,

cd,
dvd or
even to a hard disk.

Could be you need to reinstall your program again after the tape

drive
install. Or, maybe your backup program needs a new driver to see

your
tape
drive.

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  #8  
Old May 31st 04, 02:07 PM
Minnie Bannister
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Default (OT)Tape backup philosophy

Backup to tape allows me to have multiple sets of backups: full backups
on 4 DDS4 tapes each week, with a separate set for each week of a
two-month cycle, plus daily differential backups, with a full set stored
in another location from time to time. i don't see doing anything like
this with extra hard disks.

MB

On 05/31/04 08:33 am Richard G. Harper put fingers to keyboard and
launched the following message into cyberspace:

Unless you're backing up huge amounts of data (in the range of 4gb or more)
I would eschew tape backup entirely and consider an image-based backup. All
the current market leaders in the drive imaging software market allow
single-file restore from a backup.

With hard drive space being relatively cheap a good backup strategy would
involve buying a second hard drive and using your image-based backup utility
to store backups on the second drive. If you buy a big enough hard drive
you can keep several backups stored on it so you can step back and recover
from a past time if necessary.

  #9  
Old May 31st 04, 06:15 PM
Richard G. Harper
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Default (OT)Tape backup philosophy

A removable hard drive would be storable off-site (this is what I use for my
personal backups), or you could back up to CD-R or DVD-R discs depending on
the size of the backup.

DDS-4? How much data are you backing up? :-)

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"Minnie Bannister" wrote in message
...
Backup to tape allows me to have multiple sets of backups: full backups
on 4 DDS4 tapes each week, with a separate set for each week of a
two-month cycle, plus daily differential backups, with a full set stored
in another location from time to time. i don't see doing anything like
this with extra hard disks.

MB

On 05/31/04 08:33 am Richard G. Harper put fingers to keyboard and
launched the following message into cyberspace:

Unless you're backing up huge amounts of data (in the range of 4gb or

more)
I would eschew tape backup entirely and consider an image-based backup.

All
the current market leaders in the drive imaging software market allow
single-file restore from a backup.

With hard drive space being relatively cheap a good backup strategy

would
involve buying a second hard drive and using your image-based backup

utility
to store backups on the second drive. If you buy a big enough hard

drive
you can keep several backups stored on it so you can step back and

recover
from a past time if necessary.



  #10  
Old June 1st 04, 12:55 AM
Jeff Richards
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Default (OT)Tape backup philosophy

Tape backups are suitable for very large volume data storage, using high
quality commercial drives. Typical home-user tape backup units are not
reliable enough, and offer no significant advantages over hard drive, CD or
DVD. I have never been a fan of tape backup units for home users, but I have
used them very effectively in a commercial environment.

It's an old hobby horse of mine, but I maintain that if a backup set can't
be restored to a clean hard drive from a floppy boot then what's the point
of creating it? Most Windows-based tape backup software require Windows to
be re-installed before the system can be restored. Of course, there are
many different reasons for maintaining a backup, but a fast restore to a new
hard drive strikes me as a fairly important feature.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98
Don@NoSpam wrote in message ...
As usual I probably am out of step with the world, but I've never cared
for tape backup. That was really driven home on an HP 1000 system on time
when the tape drive refused to read beyond record #n for whatever reason.

Not only that, supposed I backup my OS with some compressing BU scheme
and I want to recover the Registry. How now brown cow? I've opted to
BU to CDs on an selected file basis. If I have to reinstall Win it
certainly does no good to recover from an image of the previous system.

I'd appreciate learing from tape backup advocates...

Don


 




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