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Old July 24th 06, 08:51 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.overclocking,microsoft.public.win98.apps
John
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Default COMPTER FREEZES/CRASHES in minutes IF TOO MUCH USE

USING: ABIT BH6 motherboard with 1.3GHz Intel Tualatin processor using
an adaptor. 384MB PC100 SDRAM. WD 250GB & WD 200GB harddrives connected
to motherboard with Promise Ultra 100 IDE controller card that came
with the WD 200GB Hardrive. Video Card - Ati AIW 128 PCI 16MB.

BEFORE (worked great): Windows 98(not SE) was loaded onto a WD 8GB
hardrive, attached directly to the motherboard, no Promise Controller
card needed. Everything worked great. The larger 200GB & 250GB
harddrives did have to be attached thru the Promise controller to be
recognized by the older motherboard, and they were used for storage
backup only. Was a perfect setup, worked flawlessly

NEXT: Wanted to get rid of old WD8GB harddrive, so loaded new
Windows98SE onto larger 200GB harddrive, which has to be attached to
motherboard with Promise ATA controller to be recognized. WD 250GB also
connected thru controller card, used for storage only.

NOW -Problem: computer freezes/crashes, blue screens, or green screens
when using any application too long (within the hr), or worse if using
many applications at once -multitasking (within minutes). If have too
many IE windows open will crash immediately. Also if trying to download
something too large (10-50MB, depending) will freeze before completion.
If downloading attachment from Outlook Express will usually crash if
attachment is 3MB or more. Sometimes less. Also crashing is never the
same. Sometimes can squeek more usage out of computer, other times
crashes quickly. Also if trying to transfer/move any large file (100MB,
sometimes only 50MB, sometimes 200MB) from one location to another in
Windows Explorer, will freeze/crash computer. Then when restarting
computer after the crash, Scandisk (i use Norton Disk Doctor) always
says some files or structures are in error and I end up having major
problems, like apps not starting, or email completely deleted, then
have to use Go-Back to recover, then start over. What a pain in the
butt. NOTE: NONE of this EVER happened "before"(see top -"BEFORE").

WORK-AROUND: The only way I'm able to get anything done is to manually
restart the computer before I "feel" it's about to freeze/crash. This
"buys" me more computer use. If I do this every 10-20minutes or so,
depending on usage, I can use the computer all day or forever without
crashes. This is EXTREMELY annoying to have to do -close all apps, save
everything, then restart, open apps, continue working, REPEAT IN
10-20MIN. PLEASE HELP.

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Old July 24th 06, 09:05 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.overclocking,microsoft.public.win98.apps
Noel Paton
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Default COMPTER FREEZES/CRASHES in minutes IF TOO MUCH USE

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"John" wrote in message
oups.com...
USING: ABIT BH6 motherboard with 1.3GHz Intel Tualatin processor using
an adaptor. 384MB PC100 SDRAM. WD 250GB & WD 200GB harddrives connected
to motherboard with Promise Ultra 100 IDE controller card that came
with the WD 200GB Hardrive. Video Card - Ati AIW 128 PCI 16MB.

BEFORE (worked great): Windows 98(not SE) was loaded onto a WD 8GB
hardrive, attached directly to the motherboard, no Promise Controller
card needed. Everything worked great. The larger 200GB & 250GB
harddrives did have to be attached thru the Promise controller to be
recognized by the older motherboard, and they were used for storage
backup only. Was a perfect setup, worked flawlessly

NEXT: Wanted to get rid of old WD8GB harddrive, so loaded new
Windows98SE onto larger 200GB harddrive, which has to be attached to
motherboard with Promise ATA controller to be recognized. WD 250GB also
connected thru controller card, used for storage only.

NOW -Problem: computer freezes/crashes, blue screens, or green screens
when using any application too long (within the hr), or worse if using
many applications at once -multitasking (within minutes). If have too
many IE windows open will crash immediately. Also if trying to download
something too large (10-50MB, depending) will freeze before completion.
If downloading attachment from Outlook Express will usually crash if
attachment is 3MB or more. Sometimes less. Also crashing is never the
same. Sometimes can squeek more usage out of computer, other times
crashes quickly. Also if trying to transfer/move any large file (100MB,
sometimes only 50MB, sometimes 200MB) from one location to another in
Windows Explorer, will freeze/crash computer. Then when restarting
computer after the crash, Scandisk (i use Norton Disk Doctor) always
says some files or structures are in error and I end up having major
problems, like apps not starting, or email completely deleted, then
have to use Go-Back to recover, then start over. What a pain in the
butt. NOTE: NONE of this EVER happened "before"(see top -"BEFORE").

WORK-AROUND: The only way I'm able to get anything done is to manually
restart the computer before I "feel" it's about to freeze/crash. This
"buys" me more computer use. If I do this every 10-20minutes or so,
depending on usage, I can use the computer all day or forever without
crashes. This is EXTREMELY annoying to have to do -close all apps, save
everything, then restart, open apps, continue working, REPEAT IN
10-20MIN. PLEASE HELP.


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Old July 24th 06, 10:56 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.overclocking,microsoft.public.win98.apps
Phil Weldon
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Default COMPTER FREEZES/CRASHES in minutes IF TOO MUCH USE

'John' wrote, in part:
| NOW -Problem: computer freezes/crashes, blue screens, or green screens
| when using any application too long (within the hr), or worse if using
| many applications at once -multitasking (within minutes).
_____

Your description indicates a possible heat problem or failing components.
Some aBit motherboards of that era were assembled with a bad batch of
electrolytic capacitors (the cylindrical components about 15 mm long
sticking upright from the motherboard surface.)

Bulging or discolored ends on the electrolytic capacitors are an indication
of failure.

Please give some information on the temperature for your system;
room temperature, motherboard temperature, and any other temperature
measurements.

The change to the 200 GByte hard drive for your boot drive may or may not
have anything to do with the current symptoms. One possibility is that
changing the 200 GByte hard drive from backup/storage to the boot drive is
that it is much more heavily used, and generates more heat.

Your symptoms as described don't seem to point to an OS problem.

Please post the additional information, and any solution you find.

Phil Weldon

"John" wrote in message
oups.com...
| USING: ABIT BH6 motherboard with 1.3GHz Intel Tualatin processor using
| an adaptor. 384MB PC100 SDRAM. WD 250GB & WD 200GB harddrives connected
| to motherboard with Promise Ultra 100 IDE controller card that came
| with the WD 200GB Hardrive. Video Card - Ati AIW 128 PCI 16MB.
|
| BEFORE (worked great): Windows 98(not SE) was loaded onto a WD 8GB
| hardrive, attached directly to the motherboard, no Promise Controller
| card needed. Everything worked great. The larger 200GB & 250GB
| harddrives did have to be attached thru the Promise controller to be
| recognized by the older motherboard, and they were used for storage
| backup only. Was a perfect setup, worked flawlessly
|
| NEXT: Wanted to get rid of old WD8GB harddrive, so loaded new
| Windows98SE onto larger 200GB harddrive, which has to be attached to
| motherboard with Promise ATA controller to be recognized. WD 250GB also
| connected thru controller card, used for storage only.
|
| NOW -Problem: computer freezes/crashes, blue screens, or green screens
| when using any application too long (within the hr), or worse if using
| many applications at once -multitasking (within minutes). If have too
| many IE windows open will crash immediately. Also if trying to download
| something too large (10-50MB, depending) will freeze before completion.
| If downloading attachment from Outlook Express will usually crash if
| attachment is 3MB or more. Sometimes less. Also crashing is never the
| same. Sometimes can squeek more usage out of computer, other times
| crashes quickly. Also if trying to transfer/move any large file (100MB,
| sometimes only 50MB, sometimes 200MB) from one location to another in
| Windows Explorer, will freeze/crash computer. Then when restarting
| computer after the crash, Scandisk (i use Norton Disk Doctor) always
| says some files or structures are in error and I end up having major
| problems, like apps not starting, or email completely deleted, then
| have to use Go-Back to recover, then start over. What a pain in the
| butt. NOTE: NONE of this EVER happened "before"(see top -"BEFORE").
|
| WORK-AROUND: The only way I'm able to get anything done is to manually
| restart the computer before I "feel" it's about to freeze/crash. This
| "buys" me more computer use. If I do this every 10-20minutes or so,
| depending on usage, I can use the computer all day or forever without
| crashes. This is EXTREMELY annoying to have to do -close all apps, save
| everything, then restart, open apps, continue working, REPEAT IN
| 10-20MIN. PLEASE HELP.
|


 




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