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Win98 boots up very slowly...
Alan,
Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the slow startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal 30 -45 second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with up to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "Alan" wrote in message ... Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want to do it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the Device Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find that you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows reboots from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new hardware etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the reader before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall. Alan "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon setting but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "PattyL" wrote in message ... In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks properties, make sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and restore network connections under Network logon options. That way the system does not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the network until you attempt to access one. PattyL "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 2 minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as normal. I reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV scans, spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed (but I read that's normal). This is not a ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with something. I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something (like a network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks. Steve L |
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Win98 boots up very slowly...
I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you
don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that matter. Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is installed and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in the order shown: 1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown 2. Physically uninstall the NIC 3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check your boot times. Shutdown. 4. Physically install the NIC 5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should ask to do this) BTW - What does "fooled with" mean? "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Alan, Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the slow startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal 30 -45 second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with up to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "Alan" wrote in message ... Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want to do it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the Device Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find that you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows reboots from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new hardware etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the reader before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall. Alan "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon setting but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "PattyL" wrote in message ... In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks properties, make sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and restore network connections under Network logon options. That way the system does not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the network until you attempt to access one. PattyL "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 2 minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as normal. I reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV scans, spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed (but I read that's normal). This is not a ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with something. I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something (like a network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks. Steve L |
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Win98 boots up very slowly...
I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device
Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem. I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and tried updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything seems back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas on this challenging problem? Thanks. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that matter. Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is installed and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in the order shown: 1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown 2. Physically uninstall the NIC 3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check your boot times. Shutdown. 4. Physically install the NIC 5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should ask to do this) BTW - What does "fooled with" mean? "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Alan, Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the slow startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal 30 -45 second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with up to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "Alan" wrote in message ... Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want to do it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the Device Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find that you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows reboots from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new hardware etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the reader before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall. Alan "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon setting but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "PattyL" wrote in message ... In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks properties, make sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and restore network connections under Network logon options. That way the system does not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the network until you attempt to access one. PattyL "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 2 minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as normal. I reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV scans, spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed (but I read that's normal). This is not a ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with something. I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something (like a network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks. Steve L |
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Win98 boots up very slowly...
I guess I'm back to BLA. Does it add up to over 2 minutes from beginning to
end? I don't understand why your largest value is only 10 seconds. After reading your post I looked at mine and found my floppy enumeration took 120 seconds. I deleted and reinstalled which got it down to a second or so. I would expect something similar in your situation. It's as if the computer itself is running slow - e.g. check the CPU speed. "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem. I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and tried updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything seems back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas on this challenging problem? Thanks. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that matter. Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is installed and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in the order shown: 1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown 2. Physically uninstall the NIC 3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check your boot times. Shutdown. 4. Physically install the NIC 5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should ask to do this) BTW - What does "fooled with" mean? "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Alan, Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the slow startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal 30 -45 second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with up to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "Alan" wrote in message ... Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want to do it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the Device Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find that you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows reboots from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new hardware etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the reader before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall. Alan "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon setting but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "PattyL" wrote in message ... In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks properties, make sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and restore network connections under Network logon options. That way the system does not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the network until you attempt to access one. PattyL "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 2 minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as normal. I reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV scans, spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed (but I read that's normal). This is not a ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with something. I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something (like a network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks. Steve L |
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Win98 boots up very slowly...
Since it's back to trial and error, another suggestion. You may have some
parameters mis-configured (e.g. Bindings, WINS, DNS, etc). To reset them to defaults, right click on Network Neighborhood and select Properties. 'Remove' all TCP/IP entries and reinstall (you may want to reboot after deleting them before attempting to reinstall). To install, choose 'Add' then select Protocol/Microsoft/TCP/IP. Installing DUN 1.4 (I realize this is for dial-up) may reset other parameters as well as the TCP/IP stack. http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q285189 "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem. I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and tried updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything seems back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas on this challenging problem? Thanks. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that matter. Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is installed and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in the order shown: 1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown 2. Physically uninstall the NIC 3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check your boot times. Shutdown. 4. Physically install the NIC 5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should ask to do this) BTW - What does "fooled with" mean? "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Alan, Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the slow startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal 30 -45 second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with up to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "Alan" wrote in message ... Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want to do it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the Device Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find that you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows reboots from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new hardware etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the reader before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall. Alan "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon setting but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "PattyL" wrote in message ... In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks properties, make sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and restore network connections under Network logon options. That way the system does not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the network until you attempt to access one. PattyL "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 2 minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as normal. I reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV scans, spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed (but I read that's normal). This is not a ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with something. I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something (like a network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks. Steve L |
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Win98 boots up very slowly...
My BLA times don't add up to over 2 minutes; they add up to under 40 secs
(which is the boot up time I used to get . I am using a current bootlog also, in case you're wondering. The CPU speed is correct in the bios; 1GHZ. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... I guess I'm back to BLA. Does it add up to over 2 minutes from beginning to end? I don't understand why your largest value is only 10 seconds. After reading your post I looked at mine and found my floppy enumeration took 120 seconds. I deleted and reinstalled which got it down to a second or so. I would expect something similar in your situation. It's as if the computer itself is running slow - e.g. check the CPU speed. "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem. I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and tried updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything seems back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas on this challenging problem? Thanks. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that matter. Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is installed and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in the order shown: 1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown 2. Physically uninstall the NIC 3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check your boot times. Shutdown. 4. Physically install the NIC 5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should ask to do this) BTW - What does "fooled with" mean? "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Alan, Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the slow startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal 30 -45 second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with up to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "Alan" wrote in message ... Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want to do it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the Device Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find that you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows reboots from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new hardware etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the reader before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall. Alan "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon setting but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "PattyL" wrote in message ... In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks properties, make sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and restore network connections under Network logon options. That way the system does not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the network until you attempt to access one. PattyL "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 2 minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as normal. I reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV scans, spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed (but I read that's normal). This is not a ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with something. I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something (like a network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks. Steve L |
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Win98 boots up very slowly...
I removed all TCP/IP entries and reinstalled them as you suggested to get
the defaults, but no joy. Still a 2 1/2 minute boot up. I did a full up to date virus scan last nite and had 0 problems from 131,000 files. I cleared all caches, uninstalled unneeded programs, ran spyware again and still no improvements. I doublechecked for any duplicate entries in control panel and looked for any conflicts or settings that may be wrong. This is a real challenge. I think we'll all learn something when this problem gets resolved. Thanks for your continued help. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... Since it's back to trial and error, another suggestion. You may have some parameters mis-configured (e.g. Bindings, WINS, DNS, etc). To reset them to defaults, right click on Network Neighborhood and select Properties. 'Remove' all TCP/IP entries and reinstall (you may want to reboot after deleting them before attempting to reinstall). To install, choose 'Add' then select Protocol/Microsoft/TCP/IP. Installing DUN 1.4 (I realize this is for dial-up) may reset other parameters as well as the TCP/IP stack. http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q285189 "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem. I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and tried updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything seems back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas on this challenging problem? Thanks. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that matter. Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is installed and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in the order shown: 1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown 2. Physically uninstall the NIC 3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check your boot times. Shutdown. 4. Physically install the NIC 5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should ask to do this) BTW - What does "fooled with" mean? "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Alan, Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the slow startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal 30 -45 second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with up to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "Alan" wrote in message ... Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want to do it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the Device Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find that you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows reboots from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new hardware etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the reader before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall. Alan "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon setting but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "PattyL" wrote in message ... In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks properties, make sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and restore network connections under Network logon options. That way the system does not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the network until you attempt to access one. PattyL "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 2 minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as normal. I reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV scans, spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed (but I read that's normal). This is not a ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with something. I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something (like a network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks. Steve L |
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Win98 boots up very slowly...
That is odd that BLA is not recording the time you're experiencing. Don't
know what to think about that. Another shot in the dark. HD access time could slow it down. Check your HDs to make sure DMA is enabled. Right click My Computer, Properties, Device Mgr, Disk Drives, Properties, Settings. The utility HDTach will also check it for you. A very high CPU Utilization (over 10-15%) indicates DMA is not enabled. http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public...uest=HdTach2.7 "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... I removed all TCP/IP entries and reinstalled them as you suggested to get the defaults, but no joy. Still a 2 1/2 minute boot up. I did a full up to date virus scan last nite and had 0 problems from 131,000 files. I cleared all caches, uninstalled unneeded programs, ran spyware again and still no improvements. I doublechecked for any duplicate entries in control panel and looked for any conflicts or settings that may be wrong. This is a real challenge. I think we'll all learn something when this problem gets resolved. Thanks for your continued help. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... Since it's back to trial and error, another suggestion. You may have some parameters mis-configured (e.g. Bindings, WINS, DNS, etc). To reset them to defaults, right click on Network Neighborhood and select Properties. 'Remove' all TCP/IP entries and reinstall (you may want to reboot after deleting them before attempting to reinstall). To install, choose 'Add' then select Protocol/Microsoft/TCP/IP. Installing DUN 1.4 (I realize this is for dial-up) may reset other parameters as well as the TCP/IP stack. http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q285189 "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem. I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and tried updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything seems back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas on this challenging problem? Thanks. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that matter. Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is installed and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in the order shown: 1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown 2. Physically uninstall the NIC 3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check your boot times. Shutdown. 4. Physically install the NIC 5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should ask to do this) BTW - What does "fooled with" mean? "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Alan, Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the slow startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal 30 -45 second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with up to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "Alan" wrote in message ... Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want to do it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the Device Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find that you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows reboots from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new hardware etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the reader before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall. Alan "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon setting but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "PattyL" wrote in message ... In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks properties, make sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and restore network connections under Network logon options. That way the system does not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the network until you attempt to access one. PattyL "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 2 minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as normal. I reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV scans, spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed (but I read that's normal). This is not a ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with something. I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something (like a network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks. Steve L |
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Win98 boots up very slowly...
DMA is enabled. HD Tach shows 9% to 12% over several consecutive tests. It
jumped to 18.8% once and 17.4% once, but averages between 9% and 12%. Anyone have any ideas ( but no format and reinstall please) that I may try? Also, thanks to MDP for his/her persistence in this issue. I will keep searching for a resolution. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... That is odd that BLA is not recording the time you're experiencing. Don't know what to think about that. Another shot in the dark. HD access time could slow it down. Check your HDs to make sure DMA is enabled. Right click My Computer, Properties, Device Mgr, Disk Drives, Properties, Settings. The utility HDTach will also check it for you. A very high CPU Utilization (over 10-15%) indicates DMA is not enabled. http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public...uest=HdTach2.7 "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... I removed all TCP/IP entries and reinstalled them as you suggested to get the defaults, but no joy. Still a 2 1/2 minute boot up. I did a full up to date virus scan last nite and had 0 problems from 131,000 files. I cleared all caches, uninstalled unneeded programs, ran spyware again and still no improvements. I doublechecked for any duplicate entries in control panel and looked for any conflicts or settings that may be wrong. This is a real challenge. I think we'll all learn something when this problem gets resolved. Thanks for your continued help. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... Since it's back to trial and error, another suggestion. You may have some parameters mis-configured (e.g. Bindings, WINS, DNS, etc). To reset them to defaults, right click on Network Neighborhood and select Properties. 'Remove' all TCP/IP entries and reinstall (you may want to reboot after deleting them before attempting to reinstall). To install, choose 'Add' then select Protocol/Microsoft/TCP/IP. Installing DUN 1.4 (I realize this is for dial-up) may reset other parameters as well as the TCP/IP stack. http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q285189 "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem. I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and tried updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything seems back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas on this challenging problem? Thanks. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that matter. Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is installed and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in the order shown: 1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown 2. Physically uninstall the NIC 3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check your boot times. Shutdown. 4. Physically install the NIC 5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should ask to do this) BTW - What does "fooled with" mean? "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Alan, Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the slow startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal 30 -45 second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with up to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "Alan" wrote in message ... Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want to do it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the Device Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find that you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows reboots from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new hardware etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the reader before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall. Alan "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon setting but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "PattyL" wrote in message ... In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks properties, make sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and restore network connections under Network logon options. That way the system does not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the network until you attempt to access one. PattyL "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 2 minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as normal. I reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV scans, spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed (but I read that's normal). This is not a ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with something. I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something (like a network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks. 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Win98 boots up very slowly...
Update. Did full NAV scan and spyware scan. Did selective startup, safe mode
startup etc. Still big startup delay. I used no sounds or wallpaper either. I have a question; When I added wallpaper (pic of car), a blank desktop stays on during the delay, and then the wallpaper and icons load. Is this normal;or should the wallpaper be loaded and then the delay? Is this something to do with video-mode switching if it isn't normal? Thanks. Steve "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... DMA is enabled. HD Tach shows 9% to 12% over several consecutive tests. It jumped to 18.8% once and 17.4% once, but averages between 9% and 12%. Anyone have any ideas ( but no format and reinstall please) that I may try? Also, thanks to MDP for his/her persistence in this issue. I will keep searching for a resolution. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... That is odd that BLA is not recording the time you're experiencing. Don't know what to think about that. Another shot in the dark. HD access time could slow it down. Check your HDs to make sure DMA is enabled. Right click My Computer, Properties, Device Mgr, Disk Drives, Properties, Settings. The utility HDTach will also check it for you. A very high CPU Utilization (over 10-15%) indicates DMA is not enabled. http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public...uest=HdTach2.7 "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... I removed all TCP/IP entries and reinstalled them as you suggested to get the defaults, but no joy. Still a 2 1/2 minute boot up. I did a full up to date virus scan last nite and had 0 problems from 131,000 files. I cleared all caches, uninstalled unneeded programs, ran spyware again and still no improvements. I doublechecked for any duplicate entries in control panel and looked for any conflicts or settings that may be wrong. This is a real challenge. I think we'll all learn something when this problem gets resolved. Thanks for your continued help. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... Since it's back to trial and error, another suggestion. You may have some parameters mis-configured (e.g. Bindings, WINS, DNS, etc). To reset them to defaults, right click on Network Neighborhood and select Properties. 'Remove' all TCP/IP entries and reinstall (you may want to reboot after deleting them before attempting to reinstall). To install, choose 'Add' then select Protocol/Microsoft/TCP/IP. Installing DUN 1.4 (I realize this is for dial-up) may reset other parameters as well as the TCP/IP stack. http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q285189 "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem. I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and tried updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything seems back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas on this challenging problem? Thanks. Steve "mdp" wrote in message ... I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that matter. Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is installed and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in the order shown: 1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown 2. Physically uninstall the NIC 3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check your boot times. Shutdown. 4. Physically install the NIC 5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should ask to do this) BTW - What does "fooled with" mean? "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Alan, Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the slow startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal 30 -45 second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with up to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "Alan" wrote in message ... Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want to do it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the Device Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find that you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows reboots from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new hardware etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the reader before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall. Alan "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon setting but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve "PattyL" wrote in message ... In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks properties, make sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and restore network connections under Network logon options. That way the system does not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the network until you attempt to access one. PattyL "Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message ... Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 2 minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as normal. I reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV scans, spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed (but I read that's normal). This is not a ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with something. I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something (like a network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks. Steve L |
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