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Old September 23rd 11, 02:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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Orson Cart wrote:

I read somewhere that AGP cards with 256 MB or more would cause
havoc with Win98.


That is not correct. Win-98 can function just fine with VGA cards with
that much ram.

You *might* have to keep the Video Aperture size in the bios to
something like 128 mb if you have 512 mb (or less) of system ram.

I imagine that these cards would be the last of the AGP breed
before switching production to PCI express,


There are some VGA cards with 512 mb of ram, and Win-98 does indeed have
a problem with video cards with 512 mb (or more) of ram.

Some people have gotten PCIe video cards to run under win-98, and again
those must be 256 mb or less.

and that drivers were not tested or even made for Win9x.


It takes some fiddling with INF files to get PCIe video cards to work
under win-98, and only some specific chipsets (I'm only familiar with
NVidia).

But is there some innate limitation in how much graphic card
memory that Windows 98 can handle?


To answer one more time, win-98 can handle AGP cards with 256 mb of ram.
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Old September 23rd 11, 02:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Win98 support 256 MB AGP cards?

Orson Cart wrote:

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Orson, your post has an incorrect time-stamp.

Your computer doesn't have the right time or time-zone setting.
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Old September 23rd 11, 03:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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I read somewhere that AGP cards with 256 MB or more would cause
havoc with Win98. I imagine that these cards would be the last
of the AGP breed before switching production to PCI express,
and that drivers were not tested or even made for Win9x.
But is there some innate limitation in how much graphic card
memory that Windows 98 can handle?
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Old September 23rd 11, 05:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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Ammammata wrote:
Il giorno Fri 23 Sep 2011 03:29:06p, *98 Guy* inviava su
alt.windows98 il messaggio . Vediamo
cosa scrisse:

You *might* have to keep the Video Aperture size in the bios to
something like 128 mb if you have 512 mb (or less) of system ram.
----------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


I read somewhere on the web that w98 doesn't recognize more than
256mb RAM, so having 512 or more is useless

Win98 will usually run just fine with up to 1GB of ram.
You should put in a mod in your system.in file under [vcache]. Add this
line: maxfilecache=51200
Buffalo


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Old September 23rd 11, 05:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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Il giorno Fri 23 Sep 2011 03:29:06p, *98 Guy* inviava su alt.windows98 il
messaggio . Vediamo cosa scrisse:

You *might* have to keep the Video Aperture size in the bios to
something like 128 mb if you have 512 mb (or less) of system ram.
----------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


I read somewhere on the web that w98 doesn't recognize more than 256mb RAM,
so having 512 or more is useless

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Old September 23rd 11, 09:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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Buffalo wrote:
Ammammata wrote:
Il giorno Fri 23 Sep 2011 03:29:06p, *98 Guy* inviava su
alt.windows98 il messaggio . Vediamo
cosa scrisse:

You *might* have to keep the Video Aperture size in the bios to
something like 128 mb if you have 512 mb (or less) of system ram.
----------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


I read somewhere on the web that w98 doesn't recognize more than
256mb RAM, so having 512 or more is useless

Win98 will usually run just fine with up to 1GB of ram.
You should put in a mod in your system.in file under [vcache]. Add
this line: maxfilecache=51200
Buffalo

Whoops, should have read 512000 and not 51200.
Buffalo


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Old September 24th 11, 12:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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Default Win98 support 256 MB AGP cards?

Buffalo wrote:

I read somewhere on the web that w98 doesn't recognize more than
256mb RAM, so having 512 or more is useless


Win98 will usually run just fine with up to 1GB of ram.


I think we're talking about two different things here.

The amount of system ram, and the amount of ram on the video card.
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Old September 24th 11, 12:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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Ammammata wrote:

You *might* have to keep the Video Aperture size in the bios to
something like 128 mb if you have 512 mb (or less) of system ram.
----------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


I read somewhere on the web that w98 doesn't recognize more than
256mb RAM, so having 512 or more is useless


You're quite wrong about that, but many people have misconceptions about
what is and is not possible regarding Windows 98.

The upper limit for system ram for Windows 98 is something like 1.2 gb
(giga-bytes). It's a strange number - not exactly an even power of 2
(like, say, 512, 1024, 2048, etc).

I personally have installed 1.5 gb of ram into a system running win-98
and with the following settings in the system.ini file have had Windows
system information say that it has 1,213,202,432 bytes or 1157 mb of
system memory.

System.ini
[386Enh]
MaxPhysPage=48800

[vcache]
MinFileCache=2048
MaxFileCache=65536

Windows ME has a hard-limit of about 1.995 gb of system ram.
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Old September 24th 11, 04:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
Buffalo
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Default Win98 support 256 MB AGP cards?



98 Guy wrote:
Ammammata wrote:

You *might* have to keep the Video Aperture size in the bios to
something like 128 mb if you have 512 mb (or less) of system ram.
----------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


I read somewhere on the web that w98 doesn't recognize more than
256mb RAM, so having 512 or more is useless


You're quite wrong about that, but many people have misconceptions
about what is and is not possible regarding Windows 98.

The upper limit for system ram for Windows 98 is something like 1.2 gb
(giga-bytes). It's a strange number - not exactly an even power of 2
(like, say, 512, 1024, 2048, etc).

I personally have installed 1.5 gb of ram into a system running win-98
and with the following settings in the system.ini file have had
Windows system information say that it has 1,213,202,432 bytes or
1157 mb of system memory.

System.ini
[386Enh]
MaxPhysPage=48800

[vcache]
MinFileCache=2048
MaxFileCache=65536

Windows ME has a hard-limit of about 1.995 gb of system ram.

MaxFileCache=65536 is a low number. But if it worked for you, that is what
counts.
Buffalo
PS: Do you know why the MaxFileCache entry was useful?


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Old September 25th 11, 03:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
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"I think we're talking about two different things he the amount of
system RAM, and the amount of RAM on the video card."

Probably. I have 768MB of (system) RAM and a newer 512MB ATI Radeon AGP
board (1280MB, grand total) in my Pentium-IV 98FE/2KS4 machine, and
haven't had a single problem with it. Not even in DOS!

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I just tell everybody to run Linux, myself.

The "users are idiots and are confused by functionality" approach of
Apple is a disease. If you design your OS for idiots, only idiots will
use it. I don't use a Macintosh, because in striving to be so simple,
they simply can't do what I need them to do.

Please, just tell everybody to go to Linux.
 




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