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Daylight Savings Patch
Anyone had experience with the patch from:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU That is: Q931836.exe Thanks! I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them manually if I can avoid it. |
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Daylight Savings Patch
"tom" wrote in message ups.com... | Anyone had experience with the patch from: | | http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU | | That is: | | Q931836.exe | | Thanks! | | I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them manually if | I | can avoid it. | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in this forum via several threads. To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is modifying/creating] a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with the various issues related to other areas of the world [if I remember correctly]. http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ |
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Daylight Savings Patch
MEB wrote:
| "tom" wrote in message | ups.com... || Anyone had experience with the patch from: || || http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU || || That is: || || Q931836.exe || || Thanks! || || I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them manually if || I || can avoid it. || | | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in | this forum via several threads. | To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be | related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is modifying/creating] | a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with the various issues | related to other areas of the world [if I remember correctly]. | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that steps (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his ..reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one from... http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU ....does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to that one, though, for another reason. The following is required to do in the USA only... http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387 How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007 .......Quote....... INTRODUCTION Because of the Energy Policy Act, daylight saving time is extended by four weeks in 2007. This change starts on the second Sunday of March and ends on the first Sunday of November. .......EOQ......... The time has come to follow the instructions in that article, or, perhaps a bit more clear... (a) Click TZEDIT.EXE. It opens with your time zone selected. (b) Click the Edit button. (c) Change the Start Day to... Second, Sunday, March. (d) Change the Last Day to... First, Sunday, November. (e) Click the OK button. (f) Click the Close button. (g) Click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel, and then double-click Date/Time. (h) Click the Time Zone tab. (i) Select a different time zone than (the one you are set at), and then click Apply. (j) Click (back to the one you were set at), and then click OK. "Note Steps i and j are required for the new changes to take effect", the article says, as does TZEdit's own help screen. Do so before March 11, 2007. If you cannot get TZEdit.exe from your personal copy of the Resource Kit, get it from the above article as Candlin saw or from... ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/tec...Reskit/CONFIG/..., as Laura Fredericks did discover, after likely 1/2 ton of clicking (although she denies it). | -- | MEB | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ | BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the | "real world" | http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion | group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world | | "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. | Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business | as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill | Or to put it another way: | Morpheus can offer you the two pills; | but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue | one. _______________ -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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Daylight Savings Patch
"PCR" wrote in message ... | MEB wrote: | | "tom" wrote in message | | ups.com... | || Anyone had experience with the patch from: | || | || http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU | || | || That is: | || | || Q931836.exe | || | || Thanks! | || | || I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them manually if | || I | || can avoid it. | || | | | | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in | | this forum via several threads. | | To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be | | related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is modifying/creating] | | a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with the various issues | | related to other areas of the world [if I remember correctly]. | | | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm | | Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that steps | (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his | .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one | from... | http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU | ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to | that one, though, for another reason. Debatable though, but we respect Terhune soo.. BG DANG, I saw cquirke rolled through,,, did he stay to chat or was this the immaculate desception... grab him quick before he gets away.. | | The following is required to do in the USA only... | | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387 | How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007 | ......Quote....... | INTRODUCTION | Because of the Energy Policy Act, daylight saving time is extended by | four weeks in 2007. This change starts on the second Sunday of March and | ends on the first Sunday of November. | ......EOQ......... | | The time has come to follow the instructions in that article, or, | perhaps a bit more clear... | | (a) Click TZEDIT.EXE. | It opens with your time zone selected. | (b) Click the Edit button. | (c) Change the Start Day to... Second, Sunday, March. | (d) Change the Last Day to... First, Sunday, November. | (e) Click the OK button. | (f) Click the Close button. | (g) Click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel, | and then double-click Date/Time. | (h) Click the Time Zone tab. | (i) Select a different time zone than (the one you are set at), | and then click Apply. | (j) Click (back to the one you were set at), and then click OK. | | "Note Steps i and j are required for the new changes to take effect", | the article says, as does TZEdit's own help screen. | | Do so before March 11, 2007. If you cannot get TZEdit.exe from your | personal copy of the Resource Kit, get it from the above article as | Candlin saw or from... | ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/tec...Reskit/CONFIG/..., | as Laura Fredericks did discover, after likely 1/2 ton of clicking | (although she denies it). | | | -- | | MEB | | _______________ | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | Should things get worse after this, | PCR | | | -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ |
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Daylight Savings Patch
MEB wrote:
| "PCR" wrote in message | ... || MEB wrote: || | "tom" wrote in message || | ups.com... || || Anyone had experience with the patch from: || || || || http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU || || || || That is: || || || || Q931836.exe || || || || Thanks! || || || || I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them || || manually if I || || can avoid it. || || || | || | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in || | this forum via several threads. || | To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be || | related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is || | modifying/creating] a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with || | the various issues related to other areas of the world [if I || | remember correctly]. || | || | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm || || Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that || steps (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after || running his .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks || like the one from... || http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU || ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to || that one, though, for another reason. | | Debatable though, but we respect Terhune soo.. | BG Those are my sentiments too. It's Colorado who first discovered the mdgx site, & it's up to him to get bloody with Terhune-- not us! | DANG, I saw cquirke rolled through,,, did he stay to chat or was | this the immaculate desception... grab him quick before he gets away.. I could have used him in a DOS thread or two, but they have dried up now. Still, it WOULD be nice for someone to grab & hogtie him in a closet for the next one! || || The following is required to do in the USA only... || || http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387 || How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007 || ......Quote....... || INTRODUCTION || Because of the Energy Policy Act, daylight saving time is extended by || four weeks in 2007. This change starts on the second Sunday of March || and ends on the first Sunday of November. || ......EOQ......... || || The time has come to follow the instructions in that article, or, || perhaps a bit more clear... || || (a) Click TZEDIT.EXE. || It opens with your time zone selected. || (b) Click the Edit button. || (c) Change the Start Day to... Second, Sunday, March. || (d) Change the Last Day to... First, Sunday, November. || (e) Click the OK button. || (f) Click the Close button. || (g) Click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel, || and then double-click Date/Time. || (h) Click the Time Zone tab. || (i) Select a different time zone than (the one you are set at), || and then click Apply. || (j) Click (back to the one you were set at), and then click OK. || || "Note Steps i and j are required for the new changes to take effect", || the article says, as does TZEdit's own help screen. || || Do so before March 11, 2007. If you cannot get TZEdit.exe from your || personal copy of the Resource Kit, get it from the above article as || Candlin saw or from... || | ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/tec...Reskit/CONFIG/..., || as Laura Fredericks did discover, after likely 1/2 ton of clicking || (although she denies it). || || | -- || | MEB || | _______________ || || -- || Thanks or Good Luck, || There may be humor in this post, and, || Naturally, you will not sue, || Should things get worse after this, || PCR || || || | | -- | MEB | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ | BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the | "real world" | http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion | group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world | | "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. | Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business | as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill | Or to put it another way: | Morpheus can offer you the two pills; | but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue | one. _______________ -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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Daylight Savings Patch
PCR wrote:
MEB wrote: "PCR" wrote in message ... MEB wrote: "tom" wrote in message ups.com... Anyone had experience with the patch from: http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU That is: Q931836.exe Thanks! I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them manually if I can avoid it. That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in this forum via several threads. To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is modifying/creating] a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with the various issues related to other areas of the world [if I remember correctly]. http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that steps (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one from... http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to that one, though, for another reason. Debatable though, but we respect Terhune soo.. BG Those are my sentiments too. It's Colorado who first discovered the mdgx site, & it's up to him to get bloody with Terhune-- not us! Well, I'm not waiting - I'm done with it already. I did it months ago, and as far as I'm concerned, I'm through, and moving on to more pressing things - like using this new "USB 2.0 External Hard Drive Enclosure" for a perfect partition copy backup of the boot drive (including ALL the directory and file dates!), and, what a joy it is, compared to the previous, tedious, procedure, of having to manually swap in/out the backup IDE hard drive each time! |
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Daylight Savings Patch
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| My only complaints with the MDGX patch *were*: | | The erroneous naming, suggesting that the patch relates directly to | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=929120 when it does not (KB929120 | is not a full update, only applies to Western Australia. In fact I | *think* it's only a W.A applicable patch to the real TZ patch, and | *only* really useful to WinXP/2K3 users.) That is confusing, though probably most users will likely not care what article number is mentioned. However, if MDGX doesn't get article numbers right, perhaps something else more important is also wrong. OTOH, article numbers that apply to Win98 are hard to come by these days. Perhaps MDGX is merely trying to indicate that the thing is meant to solve for Win98 what those articles are solving for XP/whatever. | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928388 *was* the real TZ patch. | Both have now been supplanted by KB931836 (which I shall be checking | on.) | | Other than that, I simply wished to provide a backup of the old info | before adding the new, and mine *replaces* the entire Key rather than | simply updating the applicable keys, though at first glance, it looks | as if the new one from MDGX does update every key, not just the | affected ones. Dunno, need more time than I have today to cross-check. When Colorado first posted that one, I did check it WOULD do for my time zone just what TZEdit did do, just as yours would. That's all I know, except the lit at their site stongly implies it does include a ..script/.inf that does that final step, which tom now throws doubt upon it's necessity. But he hasn't flatly said he didn't run the MDGX one. By the way here are my keys for my time zone, & I only ran TZEdit & did the zone switch in Time/Date Properties... REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Time Zones\Eastern] "Display"="(GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)" "Dlt"="Eastern Daylight Time" "Std"="Eastern Standard Time" "MapID"="38,39" "TZI"=hex:2c,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,c4,ff,ff,ff,00,0 0,0b,00,00,00,01,00,02 ,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,02,00,02,00,00,00 ,00,00,00,00 REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation ] "ActiveTimeBias"=hex:2c,01,00,00 "StandardName"="Eastern Standard Time" "DaylightName"="Eastern Daylight Time" "Bias"=hex:2c,01,00,00 "StandardBias"=hex:00,00,00,00 "DaylightBias"=hex:c4,ff,ff,ff "StandardStart"=hex:00,00,0b,00,00,00,01,00,02,00, 00,00,00,00,00,00 "DaylightStart"=hex:00,00,03,00,00,00,02,00,02,00, 00,00,00,00,00,00 "DaylightFlag"=hex:01,00,00,00 Too bad I didn't think to check the second one BEFORE doing the Date/Time Properties switch forth/back! | Also, the MDGX patch leaves the XP/2K3 naming convention in place for | newly created sub-keys. All such have "Standard Time" added to the | name of the sub-key, whereas in 9x they do not. Example: What is | named "Pacific" in 9x is named "Pacific Standard Time" in XP. It also appears to be true of my "Eastern", that "Standard Time" isn't added to it. However, I can't quite recall that anything was added or not when I looked at the MDGX data. I do recall the zone dates were the same for me for sure. I don't still have the download to double check. | This | offends my sensibilities, even if it doesn't actually cause any | problems -- and I don't think it does. Yea. | Lastly, I wish to provide a REG file for those who are more | comfortable with such things, rather than a self-executing INF file. | I also provide an in-depth discussion of the whole issue, so PCR | doesn't have to use one of his Master Posts. He can just point to my | article, bg. It will STILL be a Master Post-- just an unusally short one, is all! | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | MS-MVP Shell/User | | "MEB" meb@not wrote in message | ... | | | | "PCR" wrote in message | ... | | MEB wrote: | | | "tom" wrote in message | | | ups.com... | | || Anyone had experience with the patch from: | | || | | || http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU | | || | | || That is: | | || | | || Q931836.exe | | || | | || Thanks! | | || | | || I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them | | || manually if I | | || can avoid it. | | || | | | | | | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in | | | this forum via several threads. | | | To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may | | | be related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is | | | modifying/creating] a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with | | | the various issues related to other areas of the world [if I | | | remember correctly]. | | | | | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm | | | | Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that | | steps (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after | | running his .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks | | like the one from... | | http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU | | ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection | | to that one, though, for another reason. | | Debatable though, but we respect Terhune soo.. | BG | | DANG, I saw cquirke rolled through,,, did he stay to chat or was | this the immaculate desception... grab him quick before he gets | away.. | | | | | The following is required to do in the USA only... | | | | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387 | | How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007 | | ......Quote....... | | INTRODUCTION | | Because of the Energy Policy Act, daylight saving time is extended | | by four weeks in 2007. This change starts on the second Sunday of | | March and ends on the first Sunday of November. | | ......EOQ......... | | | | The time has come to follow the instructions in that article, or, | | perhaps a bit more clear... | | | | (a) Click TZEDIT.EXE. | | It opens with your time zone selected. | | (b) Click the Edit button. | | (c) Change the Start Day to... Second, Sunday, March. | | (d) Change the Last Day to... First, Sunday, November. | | (e) Click the OK button. | | (f) Click the Close button. | | (g) Click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel, | | and then double-click Date/Time. | | (h) Click the Time Zone tab. | | (i) Select a different time zone than (the one you are set at), | | and then click Apply. | | (j) Click (back to the one you were set at), and then click OK. | | | | "Note Steps i and j are required for the new changes to take | | effect", the article says, as does TZEdit's own help screen. | | | | Do so before March 11, 2007. If you cannot get TZEdit.exe from your | | personal copy of the Resource Kit, get it from the above article as | | Candlin saw or from... | | | ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/tec...Reskit/CONFIG/..., | | as Laura Fredericks did discover, after likely 1/2 ton of clicking | | (although she denies it). | | | | | -- | | | MEB | | | _______________ | | | | -- | | Thanks or Good Luck, | | There may be humor in this post, and, | | Naturally, you will not sue, | | Should things get worse after this, | | PCR | | | | | | | | -- | MEB | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ | BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the | "real world" | http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion | group for | general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world | | "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. | Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their | business as if | nothing had happen." Winston Churchill | Or to put it another way: | Morpheus can offer you the two pills; | but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue | one. _______________ -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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Daylight Savings Patch
On Feb 14, 7:44 pm, "PCR" wrote:
MEB wrote: | "tom" wrote in message oups.com... || Anyone had experience with the patch from: || ||http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU || || That is: || || Q931836.exe || || Thanks! || || I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them manually if || I || can avoid it. || | | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in | this forum via several threads. | To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be | related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is modifying/creating] | a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with the various issues | related to other areas of the world [if I remember correctly]. | |http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that steps (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one from...http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to that one, though, for another reason. Where are these conversations? I cannot find them when I search the news groups. I did find one where you pointed out that (g) though (j) should be run, but no reply from Terhune. I tested the grystmill patch without running steps (g) through (j) and it worked. Tested on 98SE by moving the time forward and letting it pass through 2 AM on March 11, 2007. So, when does this (g) through (j) issue apply. I have already applied the patch on a number of systems, I need to know if I should do the (g) through (j) thing on all systems, some systems, or no systems. The following is required to do in the USA only... http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387 How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007 ......Quote....... INTRODUCTION Because of the Energy Policy Act, daylight saving time is extended by four weeks in 2007. This change starts on the second Sunday of March and ends on the first Sunday of November. ......EOQ......... The time has come to follow the instructions in that article, or, perhaps a bit more clear... (a) Click TZEDIT.EXE. It opens with your time zone selected. (b) Click the Edit button. (c) Change the Start Day to... Second, Sunday, March. (d) Change the Last Day to... First, Sunday, November. (e) Click the OK button. (f) Click the Close button. (g) Click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel, and then double-click Date/Time. (h) Click the Time Zone tab. (i) Select a different time zone than (the one you are set at), and then click Apply. (j) Click (back to the one you were set at), and then click OK. "Note Steps i and j are required for the new changes to take effect", the article says, as does TZEdit's own help screen. Do so before March 11, 2007. If you cannot get TZEdit.exe from your personal copy of the Resource Kit, get it from the above article as Candlin saw or from...ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/tec...Reskit/CONFIG/..., as Laura Fredericks did discover, after likely 1/2 ton of clicking (although she denies it). | -- | MEB |http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ | BLOG -http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/Public Notice or the | "real world" |http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en- discussion | group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world | | "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. | Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business | as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill | Or to put it another way: | Morpheus can offer you the two pills; | but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue | one. _______________ -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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Daylight Savings Patch
tom wrote:
"PCR" wrote: MEB wrote: |http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that steps (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one from...http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to that one, though, for another reason. Where are these conversations? I cannot find them when I search the news groups. Gary answering 'John John', agreeing he'd forgotten to add something: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/b62be55998073a81?hl=en In my 'locale' /they/ haven't changed these self-delusion rules, with mucking around with /relative/ time, recently so i have only skimmed through the discussions about it. I did find one where you pointed out that (g) though (j) should be run, but no reply from Terhune. I tested the grystmill patch without running steps (g) through (j) and it worked. Tested on 98SE by moving the time forward and letting it pass through 2 AM on March 11, 2007. So, when does this (g) through (j) issue apply. I have already applied the patch on a number of systems, I need to know if I should do the (g) through (j) thing on all systems, some systems, or no systems. -- Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. Please followup in the newsgroup. E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control. |
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