freeing "backup" disk space

We had a gateway computer that came installed with win98. Recently, we found
a CD labeled "Second Edition" and installed that.

During the installation, it asked if we wanted to keep a "backup" which
would take "up to 110 MB" and we chose yes.

How do we now delete that backup so that we can use the disk space again,
please?

"patrick" wrote in message
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We had a gateway computer that came installed with win98. Recently, we
found
a CD labeled "Second Edition" and installed that.

During the installation, it asked if we wanted to keep a "backup" which
would take "up to 110 MB" and we chose yes.

How do we now delete that backup so that we can use the disk space again,
please?

When Win98 installs its operating system over another,
you have the option to save the earlier OS. If your OS
has run flawlessly for a month or more without your ever
thinking about its predecessor, you might as well delete
the saved WinSetup.DAT or whatever it is called (size
usually 150 to 200 Mb.)

1. Like some system files, this DAT file may by
default be attributed Hidden: so ensure your system
Shows All Files and Shows Filetypes as well as the
first parts of file names.
2. When in EXPLORER = My Computer, you can
sort by any column by clicking on the head of that
column: and click a second time to reverse the
order. WINSETUP.DAT is created by default in either
C:\ (root directory) or C:\Windows (although you had
the option to locate it somewhere else.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

In ,
Don Phillipson wrote:

We had a gateway computer that came installed with win98. Recently,
we found a CD labeled "Second Edition" and installed that.

During the installation, it asked if we wanted to keep a "backup"
which would take "up to 110 MB" and we chose yes.

How do we now delete that backup so that we can use the disk space
again, please?

When Win98 installs its operating system over another,
you have the option to save the earlier OS. If your OS
has run flawlessly for a month or more without your ever
thinking about its predecessor,

After the network login, there is now (after the "Second Edition" CD
install) a pause of 60 seconds or so before the desktop becomes populated
with any icons. It's annoying. Is that a normal feature after such a "Second
Edition" upgrade, or is there some way to eliminate that lengthy pause,
please?

you might as well delete
the saved WinSetup.DAT or whatever it is called (size
usually 150 to 200 Mb.)

1. Like some system files, this DAT file may by
default be attributed Hidden: so ensure your system
Shows All Files and Shows Filetypes as well as the
first parts of file names.
2. When in EXPLORER = My Computer, you can
sort by any column by clicking on the head of that
column: and click a second time to reverse the
order. WINSETUP.DAT is created by default in either
C:\ (root directory) or C:\Windows (although you had
the option to locate it somewhere else.)

Thank you, I'll carefully follow your instructions when I access the machine
again this next weekend.

"patrick" wrote in message
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After the network login, there is now (after the "Second Edition" CD
install) a pause of 60 seconds or so before the desktop becomes populated
with any icons. It's annoying. Is that a normal feature after such a
"Second
Edition" upgrade, or is there some way to eliminate that lengthy pause,
please?

1. If you do not really need the Network Login you
might as well remove it (via / Control Panel / Users
or / Network, I forget which.)
2. The 60-sec. delay is not standard. Are you loading
into Systray more than you really use?

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305087
How to Save System Files During Setup

about halfway down

Do not do this by deleting files - always use the utility provided.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"patrick" wrote in message
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We had a gateway computer that came installed with win98. Recently, we
found
a CD labeled "Second Edition" and installed that.

During the installation, it asked if we wanted to keep a "backup" which
would take "up to 110 MB" and we chose yes.

How do we now delete that backup so that we can use the disk space again,
please?

In ,
Don Phillipson wrote:

After the network login, there is now (after the "Second Edition" CD
install) a pause of 60 seconds or so before the desktop becomes
populated with any icons. It's annoying. Is that a normal feature
after such a "Second Edition" upgrade, or is there some way to
eliminate that lengthy pause, please?

1. If you do not really need the Network Login you
might as well remove it (via / Control Panel / Users
or / Network, I forget which.)

Yes, we do need it, as we wish to restrict network access to only those
weak-willed individuals who know the password. I say "weak-willed" because I
understand the facade of "security" and how to circumvent it if one really
wants to.

2. The 60-sec. delay is not standard. Are you loading
into Systray more than you really use?

Nothing beyond what was loaded *before* the "Second Edition" upgrade when
the delay didn't exist. Are there any diagnostics available that can tell us
what is happening during this delay?

In ,
Jeff Richards wrote:

See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305087
How to Save System Files During Setup
about halfway down
Do not do this by deleting files - always use the utility provided.

Most excellent, thank you.

"patrick" wrote in message
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2. The 60-sec. delay is not standard. Are you loading
into Systray more than you really use?

Nothing beyond what was loaded *before* the "Second Edition" upgrade when
the delay didn't exist. Are there any diagnostics available that can tell
us
what is happening during this delay?

Sorry I know of none because I have not needed
them. At reboot on this Win98SE PC (2.8 GHz)
there is a variable pause (5 to 20 sec.) between
BIOS boot completion and appearance of the
(custom) Windows backdrop -- which is fully
populated with about 25 icons in 6 or 7 seconds,
after which it takes another 8 or 10 sec. to
load the Systray (3 items: Sound Volume,
Resource Meter and Mailwasher email filter.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)