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Old April 5th 06, 10:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Default OT question re XP and RAM

Thanks for checking in, Mart.

Did not crash with just one stick of new 512 and an original, known-good
256. Swapped out the 512s and did not crash with the second stick of 512 and
original 256. However, the crashes are very far apart and random, so maybe
it was just a coincidence that that crashes occurred with both 512s in
there.

But, today I tested the 512+512 RAM combo today with a Windows Memory
Diagnostic boot disk. Ran the extended test. Found 108 errors (Stride38),
Slot DIMM_A. I'm guessing one of the sticks is bad -- the RAM in slot A,
whichever one that is. Also replaced the latest 84.21 nVidia display driver
with an older known 100% bug-free nVidia 44.03. That's where I am so far.

I emailed the RAM vendor seeking to trade one 512 for another. Fingers
crossed.

Thanks for your interest.

Joe

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Joe,

Presumably you've re-tried Mike M's original suggestion and confirmed that
it also crashes with just ONE RAM stick installed?

Another useful test would be to eliminate your Windows OS's - including
drivers (and HDD) bearing in mind that it *might* still be a heat related
issue :-

Boot using a WinMe Windows Startup (floppy) Disk and let it continue to
the DOS Help page. Leave it running for several hours - if necessary
overnight - and see if it still reboots. Scroll at least one page - and
then again occasionally just to confirm that it hasn't 'locked-up'. You'll
know if it re-booted as - assuming you've scrolled the Help page - it'll
re-boot back to page 1 of the Help pages.

If so, then it's a problem with your PC and not with your OS's.

Mart



"Joe Starin" wrote in message
et...
Actually, I still have the same crash + immediate reboot problem. Popped
up twice yesterday, but not once before that in the past week and a half.
How's that for random? RAM (two new 512 sticks in two slots) is being
tested as we speak and shows no errors after two passes. I've also posted
this issue to the windowsxp/general newsgroup since no-one might be
following this older thread anymore. I'm going to try another display
driver, since some have had a bad experience with the most-current nVidia
display driver that I now have installed. Joe Starin

"Joe Starin" wrote in message
et...
Thanks for all the input, everyone. "Tested" both new sticks of 512
separately. Added just one 512 for a week. No problems. Then removed it,
swapped it with the other 512 for a week. No problems. Put both in. No
problems. My freezing/rebooting problem seemed to go away about the time
I updated the video driver to Nvidia's latest and/or when I installed
SP2. Upgrading from ME to XP really does take some time and effort. And,
on my machine, XP (and other tasks running at startup) consumes about
330MB of RAM, so the extra memory was essential. Joe Starin

"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
One of the beautiful things about an upgrade from 9x/Me to XP is that
all previously-used system components (including drivers) are discarded
during the upgrade.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ...
http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Joe Starin" wrote in message
news I will swap, test and post back. Which leads to a final question: After
an ME to XP upgrade, could an outdated or incorrect video driver cause
random crashes/reboots? Joe

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Please post back with any update as it is always interesting to know
the cause of this sort of problem.

Cheers,
--
Mike Maltby



Joe Starin wrote:

Thank you, Mike. Exactly the advice I was looking for. I'll check
both
sticks one at a time. Didn't think the display driver issue and RAM
upgrade were linked in any way. Joe













  #12  
Old April 5th 06, 11:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Default OT question re XP and RAM

Joe wrote :-

Thanks for your interest.


You're welcome - and good luck.

Mart


"Joe Starin" wrote in message
et...
Thanks for checking in, Mart.

Did not crash with just one stick of new 512 and an original, known-good
256. Swapped out the 512s and did not crash with the second stick of 512
and original 256. However, the crashes are very far apart and random, so
maybe it was just a coincidence that that crashes occurred with both 512s
in there.

But, today I tested the 512+512 RAM combo today with a Windows Memory
Diagnostic boot disk. Ran the extended test. Found 108 errors (Stride38),
Slot DIMM_A. I'm guessing one of the sticks is bad -- the RAM in slot A,
whichever one that is. Also replaced the latest 84.21 nVidia display
driver with an older known 100% bug-free nVidia 44.03. That's where I am
so far.

I emailed the RAM vendor seeking to trade one 512 for another. Fingers
crossed.

Thanks for your interest.

Joe

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Joe,

Presumably you've re-tried Mike M's original suggestion and confirmed
that it also crashes with just ONE RAM stick installed?

Another useful test would be to eliminate your Windows OS's - including
drivers (and HDD) bearing in mind that it *might* still be a heat related
issue :-

Boot using a WinMe Windows Startup (floppy) Disk and let it continue to
the DOS Help page. Leave it running for several hours - if necessary
overnight - and see if it still reboots. Scroll at least one page - and
then again occasionally just to confirm that it hasn't 'locked-up'.
You'll know if it re-booted as - assuming you've scrolled the Help page -
it'll re-boot back to page 1 of the Help pages.

If so, then it's a problem with your PC and not with your OS's.

Mart



"Joe Starin" wrote in message
et...
Actually, I still have the same crash + immediate reboot problem. Popped
up twice yesterday, but not once before that in the past week and a
half. How's that for random? RAM (two new 512 sticks in two slots) is
being tested as we speak and shows no errors after two passes. I've also
posted this issue to the windowsxp/general newsgroup since no-one might
be following this older thread anymore. I'm going to try another display
driver, since some have had a bad experience with the most-current
nVidia display driver that I now have installed. Joe Starin

"Joe Starin" wrote in message
et...
Thanks for all the input, everyone. "Tested" both new sticks of 512
separately. Added just one 512 for a week. No problems. Then removed
it, swapped it with the other 512 for a week. No problems. Put both in.
No problems. My freezing/rebooting problem seemed to go away about the
time I updated the video driver to Nvidia's latest and/or when I
installed SP2. Upgrading from ME to XP really does take some time and
effort. And, on my machine, XP (and other tasks running at startup)
consumes about 330MB of RAM, so the extra memory was essential. Joe
Starin

"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
One of the beautiful things about an upgrade from 9x/Me to XP is that
all previously-used system components (including drivers) are
discarded during the upgrade.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ...
http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Joe Starin" wrote in message
news I will swap, test and post back. Which leads to a final question:
After an ME to XP upgrade, could an outdated or incorrect video driver
cause random crashes/reboots? Joe

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Please post back with any update as it is always interesting to know
the cause of this sort of problem.

Cheers,
--
Mike Maltby



Joe Starin wrote:

Thank you, Mike. Exactly the advice I was looking for. I'll check
both
sticks one at a time. Didn't think the display driver issue and RAM
upgrade were linked in any way. Joe















 




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