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  #31  
Old May 6th 10, 07:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Sunny
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Posts: 502
Default Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities


"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 05/05/2010 09:42 PM, MEB wrote:
On 05/05/2010 07:49 PM, Sunny wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
snip
NNTP servers/services continue]. You seem to forget there are
"controlling" groups for/over all of the "Internet", and without the
MAJOR servers, major corporations and their OWNED lines and routing
servers/services, *Usenet* isn't going very far should support be
dropped.

There is no such thing as a "MAJOR servers", and the disappearance of
the
Microsoft servers will not affect Usenet one iota.




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, ermmmm, uh,
hhahhahaahehhehehahahaahhahahaaeeee


snicker,,, sniff,,,, uhh, cough, rbrbrbrrrrraaaaaaaaaawwwwwwaaaaa
ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaheeeeee, teetaaaaa
heheheehawwwwaaaa


Laugh this off, you clown :

The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers that are accessed by client
news readers. At regular intervals, each news server connects to its
partner news servers, compares newsgroup databases, and exchanges any
messages the other server doesn't already have. A message posted to a
single news server is therefore quickly propagated completely around the
Usenet in a very short time, typically within a few minutes.

Like the Internet, the Usenet's distributed architecture isn't dependent
on any central administrative control, making it particularly robust
because it doesn't have a single point of failure. The entire network of
interconnected Usenet news servers is so large that the loss of individual
news servers does not significantly affect it.

http://usenetstats.com/


  #32  
Old May 6th 10, 09:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Hot-text
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Posts: 1,026
Default Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities

Sunny The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers COPY CATS of the MAJOR
servers !


"Sunny" wrote in message
...

"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 05/05/2010 09:42 PM, MEB wrote:
On 05/05/2010 07:49 PM, Sunny wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
snip
NNTP servers/services continue]. You seem to forget there are
"controlling" groups for/over all of the "Internet", and without the
MAJOR servers, major corporations and their OWNED lines and routing
servers/services, *Usenet* isn't going very far should support be
dropped.

There is no such thing as a "MAJOR servers", and the disappearance of
the
Microsoft servers will not affect Usenet one iota.




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, ermmmm, uh,
hhahhahaahehhehehahahaahhahahaaeeee


snicker,,, sniff,,,, uhh, cough, rbrbrbrrrrraaaaaaaaaawwwwwwaaaaa
ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaheeeeee, teetaaaaa heheheehawwwwaaaa


Laugh this off, you clown :

The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers that are accessed by client
news readers. At regular intervals, each news server connects to its
partner news servers, compares newsgroup databases, and exchanges any
messages the other server doesn't already have. A message posted to a
single news server is therefore quickly propagated completely around the
Usenet in a very short time, typically within a few minutes.

Like the Internet, the Usenet's distributed architecture isn't dependent
on any central administrative control, making it particularly robust
because it doesn't have a single point of failure. The entire network of
interconnected Usenet news servers is so large that the loss of individual
news servers does not significantly affect it.

http://usenetstats.com/

  #33  
Old May 6th 10, 09:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Hot-text
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,026
Default Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities


Sunny The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers COPY CATS of the MAJOR
servers !


"Sunny" wrote in message
...

"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 05/05/2010 09:42 PM, MEB wrote:
On 05/05/2010 07:49 PM, Sunny wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
snip
NNTP servers/services continue]. You seem to forget there are
"controlling" groups for/over all of the "Internet", and without the
MAJOR servers, major corporations and their OWNED lines and routing
servers/services, *Usenet* isn't going very far should support be
dropped.

There is no such thing as a "MAJOR servers", and the disappearance of
the
Microsoft servers will not affect Usenet one iota.




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, ermmmm, uh,
hhahhahaahehhehehahahaahhahahaaeeee


snicker,,, sniff,,,, uhh, cough, rbrbrbrrrrraaaaaaaaaawwwwwwaaaaa
ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaheeeeee, teetaaaaa heheheehawwwwaaaa


Laugh this off, you clown :

The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers that are accessed by client
news readers. At regular intervals, each news server connects to its
partner news servers, compares newsgroup databases, and exchanges any
messages the other server doesn't already have. A message posted to a
single news server is therefore quickly propagated completely around the
Usenet in a very short time, typically within a few minutes.

Like the Internet, the Usenet's distributed architecture isn't dependent
on any central administrative control, making it particularly robust
because it doesn't have a single point of failure. The entire network of
interconnected Usenet news servers is so large that the loss of individual
news servers does not significantly affect it.

http://usenetstats.com/

  #34  
Old May 6th 10, 06:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_17_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,830
Default Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities

On 05/06/2010 02:33 AM, Sunny wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 05/05/2010 09:42 PM, MEB wrote:
On 05/05/2010 07:49 PM, Sunny wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
snip
NNTP servers/services continue]. You seem to forget there are
"controlling" groups for/over all of the "Internet", and without the
MAJOR servers, major corporations and their OWNED lines and routing
servers/services, *Usenet* isn't going very far should support be
dropped.

There is no such thing as a "MAJOR servers", and the disappearance of
the
Microsoft servers will not affect Usenet one iota.




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, ermmmm, uh,
hhahhahaahehhehehahahaahhahahaaeeee


snicker,,, sniff,,,, uhh, cough, rbrbrbrrrrraaaaaaaaaawwwwwwaaaaa
ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaheeeeee, teetaaaaa
heheheehawwwwaaaa


Laugh this off, you clown :

The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers that are accessed by client
news readers. At regular intervals, each news server connects to its
partner news servers, compares newsgroup databases, and exchanges any
messages the other server doesn't already have. A message posted to a
single news server is therefore quickly propagated completely around the
Usenet in a very short time, typically within a few minutes.

Like the Internet, the Usenet's distributed architecture isn't dependent
on any central administrative control, making it particularly robust
because it doesn't have a single point of failure. The entire network of
interconnected Usenet news servers is so large that the loss of individual
news servers does not significantly affect it.

http://usenetstats.com/



You people REALLY don't have a clue...

Here, maybe you missed this and its import since I didn't feel it
necessary to point out what this meant, I'll explain it to you AFTER you
read about it if you have any questions THEN. Make it quick, this will
end here shortly and I certainly am not worry about it if you don't.

In the other present discussion regarding this closing, Pa Bear posted
some information:
-QUOTE-
MEB wrote:
snip
So are we to take the nntp@ message as Notice for this group in

particular?

is a Microsoft posting alias (and you'll see that the
posting IP points to Redmond).

The same message was posted (and double-posted, in many cases) in all MS
newsgroups. (Google Groups has removed all of the original posts, and
many of the ensuing threads, from its archive, BTW.) The fact that it
took 5-6 hours for the posts to propagate to all slave newsservers
(i.e., show up) is especially bittersweet. eg
-END QUOTE-

Let deal with one relevant part, we'll leave the Google Groups removal
unaddressed. So it took some 5-6 hours for these nntp Microsoft postings
to propagate across the world, what does that show/mean?
For a start, it wasn't instantaneous or even close, like when you
access a web page. That means the major servers/services are forcing
Usenet to use secondary host/servers [secondary links] OFF the main
backbone, and/or "public" NNTP "priority" is pretty dismal now. It also
appears to indicate that Usenet "services" [where you actually connect
through] aren't updated as often, aren't finding as many "NNTP hosts",
"forwarders", and "routers", and a couple other indications.

Usenutters in particular, and others that actually want to know HOW
this all works, need to start with these basic search queries and
actually READ the materials [a couple times]. I expect most of you won't
be able to comprehend the full impact, much less how it affects
EVERYTHING done on the Internet, but at least it will kill Usenutters'
abilities to spout their ignorant nonsense, and allow and provide
information to others to perhaps "re-think" your ideas.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Inter...raphy&ie=utf-8
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ing+topography
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+routing
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Usenet+hosting
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+protocols
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+standards
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+backbone

Don't stop with these, continue on into the deeper workings all of
this... and don't stop when you just find something that seems to
support "your" ideas, because they are likely wrong and that supposed
"material" may be as wrong as you are because it failed to address EVERY
ASPECT now occurring.

Any ignoramus can post materials and/or put up sites and materials
which purports to show how their segment "supposedly" works *WITHIN*
this Internet, however, unless these deal with ALL FACTS of the Internet
from the originating "source" [and owner], to the "privately owned
backbone" to when *you* as a user finally get access to it, *and ALL
aspects during that data exchange*, its just moronic garbage, or overly
simplified, or even old outdated material.

I'm also going to suggest again that Usenetters need to seriously
consider cleaning up your "end", or you may not have an "end" anymore
nor support.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #35  
Old May 6th 10, 06:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_17_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,830
Default Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities

On 05/06/2010 02:33 AM, Sunny wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 05/05/2010 09:42 PM, MEB wrote:
On 05/05/2010 07:49 PM, Sunny wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
snip
NNTP servers/services continue]. You seem to forget there are
"controlling" groups for/over all of the "Internet", and without the
MAJOR servers, major corporations and their OWNED lines and routing
servers/services, *Usenet* isn't going very far should support be
dropped.

There is no such thing as a "MAJOR servers", and the disappearance of
the
Microsoft servers will not affect Usenet one iota.




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, ermmmm, uh,
hhahhahaahehhehehahahaahhahahaaeeee


snicker,,, sniff,,,, uhh, cough, rbrbrbrrrrraaaaaaaaaawwwwwwaaaaa
ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaheeeeee, teetaaaaa
heheheehawwwwaaaa


Laugh this off, you clown :

The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers that are accessed by client
news readers. At regular intervals, each news server connects to its
partner news servers, compares newsgroup databases, and exchanges any
messages the other server doesn't already have. A message posted to a
single news server is therefore quickly propagated completely around the
Usenet in a very short time, typically within a few minutes.

Like the Internet, the Usenet's distributed architecture isn't dependent
on any central administrative control, making it particularly robust
because it doesn't have a single point of failure. The entire network of
interconnected Usenet news servers is so large that the loss of individual
news servers does not significantly affect it.

http://usenetstats.com/



You people REALLY don't have a clue...

Here, maybe you missed this and its import since I didn't feel it
necessary to point out what this meant, I'll explain it to you AFTER you
read about it if you have any questions THEN. Make it quick, this will
end here shortly and I certainly am not worry about it if you don't.

In the other present discussion regarding this closing, Pa Bear posted
some information:
-QUOTE-
MEB wrote:
snip
So are we to take the nntp@ message as Notice for this group in

particular?

is a Microsoft posting alias (and you'll see that the
posting IP points to Redmond).

The same message was posted (and double-posted, in many cases) in all MS
newsgroups. (Google Groups has removed all of the original posts, and
many of the ensuing threads, from its archive, BTW.) The fact that it
took 5-6 hours for the posts to propagate to all slave newsservers
(i.e., show up) is especially bittersweet. eg
-END QUOTE-

Let deal with one relevant part, we'll leave the Google Groups removal
unaddressed. So it took some 5-6 hours for these nntp Microsoft postings
to propagate across the world, what does that show/mean?
For a start, it wasn't instantaneous or even close, like when you
access a web page. That means the major servers/services are forcing
Usenet to use secondary host/servers [secondary links] OFF the main
backbone, and/or "public" NNTP "priority" is pretty dismal now. It also
appears to indicate that Usenet "services" [where you actually connect
through] aren't updated as often, aren't finding as many "NNTP hosts",
"forwarders", and "routers", and a couple other indications.

Usenutters in particular, and others that actually want to know HOW
this all works, need to start with these basic search queries and
actually READ the materials [a couple times]. I expect most of you won't
be able to comprehend the full impact, much less how it affects
EVERYTHING done on the Internet, but at least it will kill Usenutters'
abilities to spout their ignorant nonsense, and allow and provide
information to others to perhaps "re-think" your ideas.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Inter...raphy&ie=utf-8
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ing+topography
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+routing
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Usenet+hosting
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+protocols
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+standards
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+backbone

Don't stop with these, continue on into the deeper workings all of
this... and don't stop when you just find something that seems to
support "your" ideas, because they are likely wrong and that supposed
"material" may be as wrong as you are because it failed to address EVERY
ASPECT now occurring.

Any ignoramus can post materials and/or put up sites and materials
which purports to show how their segment "supposedly" works *WITHIN*
this Internet, however, unless these deal with ALL FACTS of the Internet
from the originating "source" [and owner], to the "privately owned
backbone" to when *you* as a user finally get access to it, *and ALL
aspects during that data exchange*, its just moronic garbage, or overly
simplified, or even old outdated material.

I'm also going to suggest again that Usenetters need to seriously
consider cleaning up your "end", or you may not have an "end" anymore
nor support.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #36  
Old May 6th 10, 11:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Sunny
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Posts: 502
Default Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities


"MEB" wrote in message
...
I'm also going to suggest again that Usenetters need to seriously
consider cleaning up your "end", or you may not have an "end" anymore
nor support.


What has Google got to do with Usenet?
(Except as a poor web based method of posting to Usenet servers.)

BTW, it only takes 5 minutes for any posts through any of the four NNTP
Servers, that I use. for them to appear on MS server.



  #37  
Old May 6th 10, 11:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Sunny
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 502
Default Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities


"MEB" wrote in message
...
I'm also going to suggest again that Usenetters need to seriously
consider cleaning up your "end", or you may not have an "end" anymore
nor support.


What has Google got to do with Usenet?
(Except as a poor web based method of posting to Usenet servers.)

BTW, it only takes 5 minutes for any posts through any of the four NNTP
Servers, that I use. for them to appear on MS server.



  #38  
Old May 7th 10, 12:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Sunny
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 502
Default Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities


"Hot-text" wrote in message
...

Sunny The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers COPY CATS of the
MAJOR servers !


Bull****, no one server runs Usenet.
Name your "Major Servers"


  #39  
Old May 7th 10, 12:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Sunny
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 502
Default Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities


"Hot-text" wrote in message
...

Sunny The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers COPY CATS of the
MAJOR servers !


Bull****, no one server runs Usenet.
Name your "Major Servers"


  #40  
Old May 7th 10, 12:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_17_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,830
Default Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities

On 05/06/2010 06:59 PM, Sunny wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message
...
I'm also going to suggest again that Usenetters need to seriously
consider cleaning up your "end", or you may not have an "end" anymore
nor support.


What has Google got to do with Usenet?
(Except as a poor web based method of posting to Usenet servers.)


I left Google "unaddressed" for a reason. Unless you understand the
Internet AND Usenet and networking, discussing the Google interior is
impossible to understand. That you even posted your question shows you
have no comprehension of anything involved.


BTW, it only takes 5 minutes for any posts through any of the four NNTP
Servers, that I use. for them to appear on MS server.


I see, per usual, you have zero to add, didn't bother to read any
information, and instead just post more mindless junk... it means ZERO
how long it took for your posts to appear save for those Usenet
"services" *place* in the chain. A major portion of that chain is being
removed and it ISN'T just access to or these groups.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
 




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