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reinstalling Windows 98
Hello, i have problem with Windows 98,while entering in Windows,in the moment
when i put the password to enter in Win, it stucks,the password is ok,everything is ok,but imidietly after that,i see the mouse cursor,but stucked. I have important programs installed in it,which i cannot find on internet,they are licnced,i have also important data,so i cannot afford of loosing any of them because i`1ll have to buy them again. My question is, if i reinstall Windows 98 without formatiing,will i loose something from the data and the programs? i`m also not sure how to reinstall without formatiing,i have bootable Win 98 CD,but i was working with XP all the time,so i`m not sure if its same way Win98 and XP. thank you very much in advance |
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Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... Hello, i have problem with Windows 98,while entering in Windows,in the moment when i put the password to enter in Win, it stucks,the password is ok,everything is ok,but imidietly after that,i see the mouse cursor,but stucked. I have important programs installed in it,which i cannot find on internet,they are licnced,i have also important data,so i cannot afford of loosing any of them because i`1ll have to buy them again. My question is, if i reinstall Windows 98 without formatiing,will i loose something from the data and the programs? i`m also not sure how to reinstall without formatiing,i have bootable Win 98 CD,but i was working with XP all the time,so i`m not sure if its same way Win98 and XP. thank you very much in advance |
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"Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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Very helpful, so here's more for you to do.
Please describe the audio drivers installer you used in detail. Name, size, and if you have one, a download link. Why did you decide to update the drivers? Was something wrong? Is it an audio card or is the audio onboard the motherboard? If it's a card, please provide make & model. If it's onboard, do you know the motherboard make/model? Or if it's a major brand-name machine, what is the make/model ("HP 5735" would be an example)? Please do the following: At the Startup Menu, choose Command Prompt Only. When you get the prompt, run SCANREG /RESTORE. It will offer you up to five Registry backups. Choose the backup you want to restore based upon Date, not filename. While I doubt that there was any backup made after all this problem started, you might want to go back a couple of days to be sure. See if it will now start in either Normal or Safe Mode. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work, it is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options. Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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Like this, this computer had only win98 before,but it had problem with the
motnerboard,and some technitian changed the motherboard and i guess some other parts (i dont know that history) and added one more hard disk drive,for Win XP,so they installed XP on that one,which never worked,all the time restarting,even after reinstalling it few times,but for not thats not problem because i dont have anything important on it. So,after that i had to find the drivers for that motherboard and its components,so the motherboard brand is ECS, Elitegroup.The model is P6SET-ML,and the sound card is integrated. I guess i didnt understood well,how can i enter in Command Prompt Only when i cannot enter in Windows? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Very helpful, so here's more for you to do. Please describe the audio drivers installer you used in detail. Name, size, and if you have one, a download link. Why did you decide to update the drivers? Was something wrong? Is it an audio card or is the audio onboard the motherboard? If it's a card, please provide make & model. If it's onboard, do you know the motherboard make/model? Or if it's a major brand-name machine, what is the make/model ("HP 5735" would be an example)? Please do the following: At the Startup Menu, choose Command Prompt Only. When you get the prompt, run SCANREG /RESTORE. It will offer you up to five Registry backups. Choose the backup you want to restore based upon Date, not filename. While I doubt that there was any backup made after all this problem started, you might want to go back a couple of days to be sure. See if it will now start in either Normal or Safe Mode. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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To get to "Command Prompt Only", follow the instructions I already gave you
in my first reply for getting to the Startup Menu using F8 or Ctrl key. "Safe Mode" is one option, "Command Prompt Only" is another. You do NOT want "Safe Mode Command Prompt Only". For drivers for that motherboard, did you go here? http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Dow...uID=82&LanID=0 (If that link doesn't work, use this one: http://tinyurl.com/5632pr) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... Like this, this computer had only win98 before,but it had problem with the motnerboard,and some technitian changed the motherboard and i guess some other parts (i dont know that history) and added one more hard disk drive,for Win XP,so they installed XP on that one,which never worked,all the time restarting,even after reinstalling it few times,but for not thats not problem because i dont have anything important on it. So,after that i had to find the drivers for that motherboard and its components,so the motherboard brand is ECS, Elitegroup.The model is P6SET-ML,and the sound card is integrated. I guess i didnt understood well,how can i enter in Command Prompt Only when i cannot enter in Windows? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Very helpful, so here's more for you to do. Please describe the audio drivers installer you used in detail. Name, size, and if you have one, a download link. Why did you decide to update the drivers? Was something wrong? Is it an audio card or is the audio onboard the motherboard? If it's a card, please provide make & model. If it's onboard, do you know the motherboard make/model? Or if it's a major brand-name machine, what is the make/model ("HP 5735" would be an example)? Please do the following: At the Startup Menu, choose Command Prompt Only. When you get the prompt, run SCANREG /RESTORE. It will offer you up to five Registry backups. Choose the backup you want to restore based upon Date, not filename. While I doubt that there was any backup made after all this problem started, you might want to go back a couple of days to be sure. See if it will now start in either Normal or Safe Mode. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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To get to "Command Prompt Only", follow the instructions I already gave you
in my first reply for getting to the Startup Menu using F8 or Ctrl key. "Safe Mode" is one option, "Command Prompt Only" is another. You do NOT want "Safe Mode Command Prompt Only". For drivers for that motherboard, did you go here? http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Dow...uID=82&LanID=0 (If that link doesn't work, use this one: http://tinyurl.com/5632pr) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... Like this, this computer had only win98 before,but it had problem with the motnerboard,and some technitian changed the motherboard and i guess some other parts (i dont know that history) and added one more hard disk drive,for Win XP,so they installed XP on that one,which never worked,all the time restarting,even after reinstalling it few times,but for not thats not problem because i dont have anything important on it. So,after that i had to find the drivers for that motherboard and its components,so the motherboard brand is ECS, Elitegroup.The model is P6SET-ML,and the sound card is integrated. I guess i didnt understood well,how can i enter in Command Prompt Only when i cannot enter in Windows? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Very helpful, so here's more for you to do. Please describe the audio drivers installer you used in detail. Name, size, and if you have one, a download link. Why did you decide to update the drivers? Was something wrong? Is it an audio card or is the audio onboard the motherboard? If it's a card, please provide make & model. If it's onboard, do you know the motherboard make/model? Or if it's a major brand-name machine, what is the make/model ("HP 5735" would be an example)? Please do the following: At the Startup Menu, choose Command Prompt Only. When you get the prompt, run SCANREG /RESTORE. It will offer you up to five Registry backups. Choose the backup you want to restore based upon Date, not filename. While I doubt that there was any backup made after all this problem started, you might want to go back a couple of days to be sure. See if it will now start in either Normal or Safe Mode. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you... now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading EGACCESS 4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from before,i guess from some start up program... and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that? Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through all the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work, it is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options. Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you... now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading EGACCESS 4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from before,i guess from some start up program... and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that? Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through all the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work, it is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options. Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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