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  #11  
Old February 9th 06, 01:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
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Default Win98 boots up very slowly...

Alan,

Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then
reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the slow
startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal 30 -45
second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with up
to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any
other ideas are welcome.
Steve




"Alan" wrote in message
...
Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want to

do
it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the

Device
Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find that
you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows reboots
from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new hardware
etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the reader
before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows
restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall.
Alan

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon

setting
but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve

"PattyL" wrote in message
...
In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks properties,

make
sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and restore
network connections under Network logon options. That way the system

does
not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the network

until
you attempt to access one.

PattyL


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98

(1st
edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 2
minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as normal.

I
reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV

scans,
spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed

(but
I
read that's normal). This is not a
ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with
something.
I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something (like

a
network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks.

Steve L










  #12  
Old February 9th 06, 04:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
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Default Win98 boots up very slowly...

I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you
don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that matter.
Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say
that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in
safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is installed
and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in the
order shown:

1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown
2. Physically uninstall the NIC
3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check
your boot times. Shutdown.
4. Physically install the NIC
5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should ask
to do this)

BTW - What does "fooled with" mean?

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Alan,

Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then
reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the slow
startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal 30 -45
second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with up
to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any
other ideas are welcome.
Steve




"Alan" wrote in message
...
Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want to

do
it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the

Device
Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find that
you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows
reboots
from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new hardware
etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the
reader
before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows
restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall.
Alan

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon

setting
but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve

"PattyL" wrote in message
...
In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks properties,

make
sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and restore
network connections under Network logon options. That way the system

does
not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the
network
until
you attempt to access one.

PattyL


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98

(1st
edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 2
minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as
normal.

I
reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV
scans,
spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed

(but
I
read that's normal). This is not a
ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with
something.
I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something
(like

a
network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks.

Steve L












  #13  
Old February 10th 06, 03:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
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Default Win98 boots up very slowly...

I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device
Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem.
I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and tried
updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in
control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything seems
back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas on
this challenging problem? Thanks.
Steve

"mdp" wrote in message
...
I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you
don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that

matter.
Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say
that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in
safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is

installed
and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in the
order shown:

1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown
2. Physically uninstall the NIC
3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check
your boot times. Shutdown.
4. Physically install the NIC
5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should

ask
to do this)

BTW - What does "fooled with" mean?

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Alan,

Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then
reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the

slow
startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal

30 -45
second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with

up
to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies. Any
other ideas are welcome.
Steve




"Alan" wrote in message
...
Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want

to
do
it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the

Device
Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find

that
you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows
reboots
from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new

hardware
etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the
reader
before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows
restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and reinstall.
Alan

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon

setting
but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve

"PattyL" wrote in message
...
In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks

properties,
make
sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and

restore
network connections under Network logon options. That way the

system
does
not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the
network
until
you attempt to access one.

PattyL


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98

(1st
edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over

2
minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as
normal.

I
reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated

NAV
scans,
spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed

(but
I
read that's normal). This is not a
ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with
something.
I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something
(like

a
network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other?

Thanks.

Steve L














  #14  
Old February 10th 06, 04:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
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Default Win98 boots up very slowly...

I guess I'm back to BLA. Does it add up to over 2 minutes from beginning to
end? I don't understand why your largest value is only 10 seconds. After
reading your post I looked at mine and found my floppy enumeration took 120
seconds. I deleted and reinstalled which got it down to a second or so. I
would expect something similar in your situation. It's as if the computer
itself is running slow - e.g. check the CPU speed.


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device
Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem.
I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and tried
updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in
control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything seems
back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas on
this challenging problem? Thanks.
Steve

"mdp" wrote in message
...
I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you
don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that

matter.
Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say
that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in
safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is

installed
and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in
the
order shown:

1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown
2. Physically uninstall the NIC
3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check
your boot times. Shutdown.
4. Physically install the NIC
5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should

ask
to do this)

BTW - What does "fooled with" mean?

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Alan,

Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then
reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the

slow
startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal

30 -45
second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with

up
to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies.
Any
other ideas are welcome.
Steve




"Alan" wrote in message
...
Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want

to
do
it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the
Device
Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find

that
you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows
reboots
from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new

hardware
etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the
reader
before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows
restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and
reinstall.
Alan

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon
setting
but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve

"PattyL" wrote in message
...
In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks

properties,
make
sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and

restore
network connections under Network logon options. That way the

system
does
not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the
network
until
you attempt to access one.

PattyL


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now
WIN98
(1st
edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over

2
minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as
normal.
I
reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated

NAV
scans,
spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd
failed
(but
I
read that's normal). This is not a
ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with
something.
I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something
(like
a
network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other?

Thanks.

Steve L
















  #15  
Old February 10th 06, 05:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Win98 boots up very slowly...

Since it's back to trial and error, another suggestion. You may have some
parameters mis-configured (e.g. Bindings, WINS, DNS, etc). To reset them to
defaults, right click on Network Neighborhood and select Properties.
'Remove' all TCP/IP entries and reinstall (you may want to reboot after
deleting them before attempting to reinstall). To install, choose 'Add'
then select Protocol/Microsoft/TCP/IP.

Installing DUN 1.4 (I realize this is for dial-up) may reset other
parameters as well as the TCP/IP stack.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q285189



"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device
Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem.
I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and tried
updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in
control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything seems
back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas on
this challenging problem? Thanks.
Steve

"mdp" wrote in message
...
I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify you
don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that

matter.
Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say
that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it in
safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is

installed
and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in
the
order shown:

1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown
2. Physically uninstall the NIC
3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot. Check
your boot times. Shutdown.
4. Physically install the NIC
5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows should

ask
to do this)

BTW - What does "fooled with" mean?

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Alan,

Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and then
reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the

slow
startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal

30 -45
second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus (with

up
to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies.
Any
other ideas are welcome.
Steve




"Alan" wrote in message
...
Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you want

to
do
it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the
Device
Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find

that
you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows
reboots
from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new

hardware
etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the
reader
before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows
restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and
reinstall.
Alan

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon
setting
but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve

"PattyL" wrote in message
...
In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks

properties,
make
sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and

restore
network connections under Network logon options. That way the

system
does
not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the
network
until
you attempt to access one.

PattyL


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now
WIN98
(1st
edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over

2
minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as
normal.
I
reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated

NAV
scans,
spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd
failed
(but
I
read that's normal). This is not a
ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with
something.
I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something
(like
a
network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other?

Thanks.

Steve L
















  #16  
Old February 12th 06, 03:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
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Posts: n/a
Default Win98 boots up very slowly...

My BLA times don't add up to over 2 minutes; they add up to under 40 secs
(which is the boot up time I used to get . I am using a current bootlog
also, in case you're wondering. The CPU speed is correct in the bios; 1GHZ.

Steve



"mdp" wrote in message
...
I guess I'm back to BLA. Does it add up to over 2 minutes from beginning

to
end? I don't understand why your largest value is only 10 seconds. After
reading your post I looked at mine and found my floppy enumeration took

120
seconds. I deleted and reinstalled which got it down to a second or so.

I
would expect something similar in your situation. It's as if the computer
itself is running slow - e.g. check the CPU speed.


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device
Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem.
I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and

tried
updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in
control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything

seems
back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas

on
this challenging problem? Thanks.
Steve

"mdp" wrote in message
...
I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify

you
don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that

matter.
Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say
that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it

in
safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is

installed
and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in
the
order shown:

1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown
2. Physically uninstall the NIC
3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot.

Check
your boot times. Shutdown.
4. Physically install the NIC
5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows

should
ask
to do this)

BTW - What does "fooled with" mean?

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Alan,

Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and

then
reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the

slow
startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal

30 -45
second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus

(with
up
to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies.
Any
other ideas are welcome.
Steve




"Alan" wrote in message
...
Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you

want
to
do
it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the
Device
Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find

that
you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows
reboots
from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new

hardware
etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the
reader
before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows
restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and
reinstall.
Alan

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon
setting
but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve

"PattyL" wrote in message
...
In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks

properties,
make
sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and

restore
network connections under Network logon options. That way the

system
does
not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the
network
until
you attempt to access one.

PattyL


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now
WIN98
(1st
edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for

over
2
minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as
normal.
I
reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did

updated
NAV
scans,
spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd
failed
(but
I
read that's normal). This is not a
ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict

with
something.
I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something
(like
a
network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other?

Thanks.

Steve L


















  #17  
Old February 12th 06, 03:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Win98 boots up very slowly...

I removed all TCP/IP entries and reinstalled them as you suggested to get
the defaults, but no joy. Still a 2 1/2 minute boot up. I did a full up to
date virus scan last nite and had 0 problems from 131,000 files. I cleared
all caches, uninstalled unneeded programs, ran spyware again and still no
improvements. I doublechecked for any duplicate entries in control panel and
looked for any conflicts or settings that may be wrong. This is a real
challenge. I think we'll all learn something when this problem gets
resolved. Thanks for your continued help.

Steve


"mdp" wrote in message
...
Since it's back to trial and error, another suggestion. You may have some
parameters mis-configured (e.g. Bindings, WINS, DNS, etc). To reset them

to
defaults, right click on Network Neighborhood and select Properties.
'Remove' all TCP/IP entries and reinstall (you may want to reboot after
deleting them before attempting to reinstall). To install, choose 'Add'
then select Protocol/Microsoft/TCP/IP.

Installing DUN 1.4 (I realize this is for dial-up) may reset other
parameters as well as the TCP/IP stack.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q285189



"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device
Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem.
I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and

tried
updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in
control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything

seems
back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas

on
this challenging problem? Thanks.
Steve

"mdp" wrote in message
...
I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify

you
don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that

matter.
Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say
that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it

in
safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is

installed
and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in
the
order shown:

1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown
2. Physically uninstall the NIC
3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot.

Check
your boot times. Shutdown.
4. Physically install the NIC
5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows

should
ask
to do this)

BTW - What does "fooled with" mean?

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Alan,

Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and

then
reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with the

slow
startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal

30 -45
second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus

(with
up
to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies.
Any
other ideas are welcome.
Steve




"Alan" wrote in message
...
Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you

want
to
do
it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check the
Device
Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even find

that
you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows
reboots
from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new

hardware
etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the
reader
before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When windows
restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and
reinstall.
Alan

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon
setting
but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve

"PattyL" wrote in message
...
In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks

properties,
make
sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and

restore
network connections under Network logon options. That way the

system
does
not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the
network
until
you attempt to access one.

PattyL


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now
WIN98
(1st
edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for

over
2
minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as
normal.
I
reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did

updated
NAV
scans,
spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd
failed
(but
I
read that's normal). This is not a
ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict

with
something.
I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something
(like
a
network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other?

Thanks.

Steve L


















  #18  
Old February 12th 06, 06:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
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Default Win98 boots up very slowly...

That is odd that BLA is not recording the time you're experiencing. Don't
know what to think about that. Another shot in the dark. HD access time
could slow it down. Check your HDs to make sure DMA is enabled. Right
click My Computer, Properties, Device Mgr, Disk Drives, Properties,
Settings.

The utility HDTach will also check it for you. A very high CPU Utilization
(over 10-15%) indicates DMA is not enabled.

http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public...uest=HdTach2.7


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
I removed all TCP/IP entries and reinstalled them as you suggested to get
the defaults, but no joy. Still a 2 1/2 minute boot up. I did a full up to
date virus scan last nite and had 0 problems from 131,000 files. I cleared
all caches, uninstalled unneeded programs, ran spyware again and still no
improvements. I doublechecked for any duplicate entries in control panel
and
looked for any conflicts or settings that may be wrong. This is a real
challenge. I think we'll all learn something when this problem gets
resolved. Thanks for your continued help.

Steve


"mdp" wrote in message
...
Since it's back to trial and error, another suggestion. You may have
some
parameters mis-configured (e.g. Bindings, WINS, DNS, etc). To reset them

to
defaults, right click on Network Neighborhood and select Properties.
'Remove' all TCP/IP entries and reinstall (you may want to reboot after
deleting them before attempting to reinstall). To install, choose 'Add'
then select Protocol/Microsoft/TCP/IP.

Installing DUN 1.4 (I realize this is for dial-up) may reset other
parameters as well as the TCP/IP stack.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q285189



"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in Device
Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem.
I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and

tried
updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in
control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything

seems
back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other ideas

on
this challenging problem? Thanks.
Steve

"mdp" wrote in message
...
I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify

you
don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that
matter.
Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would say
that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting it

in
safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is
installed
and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps in
the
order shown:

1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown
2. Physically uninstall the NIC
3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot.

Check
your boot times. Shutdown.
4. Physically install the NIC
5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows

should
ask
to do this)

BTW - What does "fooled with" mean?

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Alan,

Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and

then
reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with
the
slow
startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a normal
30 -45
second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus

(with
up
to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware proggies.
Any
other ideas are welcome.
Steve




"Alan" wrote in message
...
Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you

want
to
do
it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check
the
Device
Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even
find
that
you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When Windows
reboots
from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new
hardware
etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in the
reader
before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When
windows
restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and
reinstall.
Alan

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick Logon
setting
but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve

"PattyL" wrote in message
...
In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks
properties,
make
sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and
restore
network connections under Network logon options. That way the
system
does
not attempt to establish a session with other computers on the
network
until
you attempt to access one.

PattyL


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now
WIN98
(1st
edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for

over
2
minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes as
normal.
I
reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did

updated
NAV
scans,
spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd
failed
(but
I
read that's normal). This is not a
ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict

with
something.
I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding
something
(like
a
network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other?
Thanks.

Steve L




















  #19  
Old February 14th 06, 03:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
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Default Win98 boots up very slowly...

DMA is enabled. HD Tach shows 9% to 12% over several consecutive tests. It
jumped to 18.8% once and 17.4% once, but averages between 9% and 12%. Anyone
have any ideas ( but no format and reinstall please) that I may try? Also,
thanks to MDP for his/her persistence in this issue. I will keep searching
for a resolution. Steve


"mdp" wrote in message
...
That is odd that BLA is not recording the time you're experiencing. Don't
know what to think about that. Another shot in the dark. HD access time
could slow it down. Check your HDs to make sure DMA is enabled. Right
click My Computer, Properties, Device Mgr, Disk Drives, Properties,
Settings.

The utility HDTach will also check it for you. A very high CPU

Utilization
(over 10-15%) indicates DMA is not enabled.

http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public...uest=HdTach2.7


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
I removed all TCP/IP entries and reinstalled them as you suggested to get
the defaults, but no joy. Still a 2 1/2 minute boot up. I did a full up

to
date virus scan last nite and had 0 problems from 131,000 files. I

cleared
all caches, uninstalled unneeded programs, ran spyware again and still

no
improvements. I doublechecked for any duplicate entries in control panel
and
looked for any conflicts or settings that may be wrong. This is a real
challenge. I think we'll all learn something when this problem gets
resolved. Thanks for your continued help.

Steve


"mdp" wrote in message
...
Since it's back to trial and error, another suggestion. You may have
some
parameters mis-configured (e.g. Bindings, WINS, DNS, etc). To reset

them
to
defaults, right click on Network Neighborhood and select Properties.
'Remove' all TCP/IP entries and reinstall (you may want to reboot after
deleting them before attempting to reinstall). To install, choose

'Add'
then select Protocol/Microsoft/TCP/IP.

Installing DUN 1.4 (I realize this is for dial-up) may reset other
parameters as well as the TCP/IP stack.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q285189



"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in

Device
Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem.
I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and

tried
updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network' in
control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything

seems
back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other

ideas
on
this challenging problem? Thanks.
Steve

"mdp" wrote in message
...
I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to verify

you
don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for that
matter.
Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would

say
that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting

it
in
safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is
installed
and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following steps

in
the
order shown:

1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown
2. Physically uninstall the NIC
3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot.

Check
your boot times. Shutdown.
4. Physically install the NIC
5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows

should
ask
to do this)

BTW - What does "fooled with" mean?

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Alan,

Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel and

then
reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference with
the
slow
startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a

normal
30 -45
second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton Antivirus

(with
up
to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware

proggies.
Any
other ideas are welcome.
Steve




"Alan" wrote in message
...
Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If you

want
to
do
it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal. Check
the
Device
Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even
find
that
you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When

Windows
reboots
from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any new
hardware
etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in

the
reader
before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When
windows
restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and
reinstall.
Alan

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick

Logon
setting
but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve

"PattyL" wrote in message
...
In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks
properties,
make
sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon and
restore
network connections under Network logon options. That way

the
system
does
not attempt to establish a session with other computers on

the
network
until
you attempt to access one.

PattyL


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now
WIN98
(1st
edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for

over
2
minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes

as
normal.
I
reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did

updated
NAV
scans,
spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd
failed
(but
I
read that's normal). This is not a
ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict

with
something.
I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding
something
(like
a
network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other?
Thanks.

Steve L






















  #20  
Old February 25th 06, 04:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
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Posts: n/a
Default Win98 boots up very slowly...

Update. Did full NAV scan and spyware scan. Did selective startup, safe mode
startup etc. Still big startup delay. I used no sounds or wallpaper either.
I have a question; When I added wallpaper (pic of car), a blank desktop
stays on during the delay, and then the wallpaper and icons load. Is this
normal;or should the wallpaper be loaded and then the delay? Is this
something to do with video-mode switching if it isn't normal? Thanks.
Steve



"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
DMA is enabled. HD Tach shows 9% to 12% over several consecutive tests. It
jumped to 18.8% once and 17.4% once, but averages between 9% and 12%.

Anyone
have any ideas ( but no format and reinstall please) that I may try? Also,
thanks to MDP for his/her persistence in this issue. I will keep searching
for a resolution. Steve


"mdp" wrote in message
...
That is odd that BLA is not recording the time you're experiencing.

Don't
know what to think about that. Another shot in the dark. HD access

time
could slow it down. Check your HDs to make sure DMA is enabled. Right
click My Computer, Properties, Device Mgr, Disk Drives, Properties,
Settings.

The utility HDTach will also check it for you. A very high CPU

Utilization
(over 10-15%) indicates DMA is not enabled.

http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public...uest=HdTach2.7


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
I removed all TCP/IP entries and reinstalled them as you suggested to

get
the defaults, but no joy. Still a 2 1/2 minute boot up. I did a full

up
to
date virus scan last nite and had 0 problems from 131,000 files. I

cleared
all caches, uninstalled unneeded programs, ran spyware again and still

no
improvements. I doublechecked for any duplicate entries in control

panel
and
looked for any conflicts or settings that may be wrong. This is a real
challenge. I think we'll all learn something when this problem gets
resolved. Thanks for your continued help.

Steve


"mdp" wrote in message
...
Since it's back to trial and error, another suggestion. You may have
some
parameters mis-configured (e.g. Bindings, WINS, DNS, etc). To reset

them
to
defaults, right click on Network Neighborhood and select Properties.
'Remove' all TCP/IP entries and reinstall (you may want to reboot

after
deleting them before attempting to reinstall). To install, choose

'Add'
then select Protocol/Microsoft/TCP/IP.

Installing DUN 1.4 (I realize this is for dial-up) may reset other
parameters as well as the TCP/IP stack.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q285189



"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
I tried your suggestions. There are no duplicates of anything in

Device
Manager. I reinstalled the NIC/drivers and same problem.
I had originally 'fooled' with it via settings (not physically) and
tried
updating the driver and also tried different settings in "Network'

in
control panel. I did a "Goback "restore the next day and everything
seems
back to the normal settings, but the problem persists. Any other

ideas
on
this challenging problem? Thanks.
Steve

"mdp" wrote in message
...
I'll move over to this thread. Did you check in Safe Mode to

verify
you
don't have duplicate entries for the NIC, or anything else for

that
matter.
Since the problem started after you "fooled" with the NIC, I would

say
that's your best clue and recommend focusing on the NIC. Deleting

it
in
safe mode then reinstalling is a surest way to ensure only one is
installed
and hopefully installed correctly. I recommend the following

steps
in
the
order shown:

1. Boot to safe mode. Delete all NICs. Shutdown
2. Physically uninstall the NIC
3. Reboot and press F8 to select enable bootlog.txt during boot.
Check
your boot times. Shutdown.
4. Physically install the NIC
5. Reboot. Install the NIC drivers when asked. Reboot (Windows
should
ask
to do this)

BTW - What does "fooled with" mean?

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Alan,

Yes, I have already removed the network card via control panel

and
then
reinstalled it using the card's original disk. No difference

with
the
slow
startup. This darn thing has me stumped. It just went from a

normal
30 -45
second boot to a 3 minute delayed boot in 1 day. Norton

Antivirus
(with
up
to date signatures) was run as well as many spyware/adware

proggies.
Any
other ideas are welcome.
Steve




"Alan" wrote in message
...
Have you tried reinstalling the device in Device Manager? If

you
want
to
do
it you must go to safe mode, delete it and boot to normal.

Check
the
Device
Manager in normal mode first to see what you have, you may even
find
that
you have some "ghost duplicate" entries in safe mode. When

Windows
reboots
from safe mode, it will go through a process identifying any

new
hardware
etc and reinstall it. Suggest you insert your Windows CD rom in

the
reader
before going to safe mode, cancelling the auto install. When
windows
restarts it will look for drivers for the "new" hardware and
reinstall.
Alan

"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Thank you for the suggestion. I have already made the Quick

Logon
setting
but still no help. Any other ideas are welcome. Steve

"PattyL" wrote in message
...
In the network properties, Client for Microsoft Networks
properties,
make
sure that you have selected Quick logon rather than Logon

and
restore
network connections under Network logon options. That way

the
system
does
not attempt to establish a session with other computers on

the
network
until
you attempt to access one.

PattyL


"Steve L" slupardi at comcast dot net wrote in message
...
Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card.

Now
WIN98
(1st
edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop

for
over
2
minutes, then the icons start to load and everything goes

as
normal.
I
reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did
updated
NAV
scans,
spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows

Ndis2sup.vxd
failed
(but
I
read that's normal). This is not a
ram problem or such. There must be some setting or

conflict
with
something.
I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding
something
(like
a
network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or

other?
Thanks.

Steve L
























 




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