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Updating Windows 98
On 07.03.2006 18:29 UK Time, ***** charles wrote:
Hi Herb, I am hoping you will log in and read this even though the thread is over. Hi Charles, yes, I'm still around :-) I just started reading this thread this morning, so I appoligize for the monday morning quarterbacking and I am glad you got your laptop up and running. Just a couple of points: 1. the M$ standard erb disk made from a W98 machine does not include FORMAT.COM on the floppy. This being the case, whenever I make one, I always copy the FORMAT.COM from C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\FORMAT.COM to A:\*.*/V This way you don't run into the problem you had in your ordeal. I have a feeling that mdp suggested something like this very early on in this thread, but if I remember correctly I couldn't find FORMAT.COM at the time on my C drive - not sure why - I probably didn't look properly :-[ mdp subsequently sent my FORMAT.COM in a private message - it sounds as if this thread could have been much shorter if I had copied it on the floppy! Oh well, I guess at least we learned a few things as part this thread - I certainly did :-) 2. It was VERY fortunate that you didn't have anything to save from the old configuration which allowed you to do a clean install. If this were not the case, the process would have been a bit more complicated. Yes, it was fortunate. By the way, I haven't yet used the laptop intensively after the 98SE installation, but it feels like a new machine, and it is *much* more responsive than before, so I think the whole exercise was definitely worth it! 3. I was hoping that you would have created 2 partitions on your 6.1G hard drive. A big C: say 5.6G and a small D: say 500M. The reason mdb suggested that as I would have also is that you could copy the cab files from the oem cdrom and installed from the D: drive. One benefit is speed but the main reason for doing it this way is so that you can copy all the relevant drivers (video, audio, nic, and others) to the D: drive so that the NEXT time you have to reload, the only thing you need is a generic boot floppy that can "see" the hard drive since all the stuff you need is on the D: drive, no hunting around for things that might have gotten lost, stollen, etc..... As time passes, it gets more and more difficult to find drivers for particular models from the Internet. Some companies are better at it than others. Remember that official support stops for W98SE in June which means manufactures will no longer have to supply anything for the OS after that. Thanks for the additional info - I hope mdp isn't too upset that I ignored his advice at the time - I guess I was looking for the easiest route. I can now see the benefit of 2 partitions. I better put these drivers etc. in a safe place! And yes Gary, I was rooting for you to get him going. A very interesting read. Thanks. One last thing, someone mentioned that the oem cd has oem in the key id string and that is one way to tell oems from others. THIS IS NOT THE CASE with W98SE. W98SE oem cdroms have a 25 item alpha numeric string that is broken up into 5 groups of 5 numbers/letters. Only the W95 oems had the oem string in the key id. I hope this folklore will die. ALL of the W98SE I have seen follow this rule. If I am wrong, show proof. Thank you for your comprehensive message! Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk |
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Updating Windows 98
Herb wrote:
On 07.03.2006 18:29 UK Time, ***** charles wrote: Hi Herb, I am hoping you will log in and read this even though the thread is over. Hi Charles, yes, I'm still around :-) I just started reading this thread this morning, so I appoligize for the monday morning quarterbacking and I am glad you got your laptop up and running. Just a couple of points: 1. the M$ standard erb disk made from a W98 machine does not include FORMAT.COM on the floppy. This being the case, whenever I make one, I always copy the FORMAT.COM from C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\FORMAT.COM to A:\*.*/V This way you don't run into the problem you had in your ordeal. I have a feeling that mdp suggested something like this very early on in this thread, but if I remember correctly I couldn't find FORMAT.COM at the time on my C drive - not sure why - I probably didn't look properly :-[ mdp subsequently sent my FORMAT.COM in a private message - it sounds as if this thread could have been much shorter if I had copied it on the floppy! Oh well, I guess at least we learned a few things as part this thread - I certainly did :-) 2. It was VERY fortunate that you didn't have anything to save from the old configuration which allowed you to do a clean install. If this were not the case, the process would have been a bit more complicated. Yes, it was fortunate. By the way, I haven't yet used the laptop intensively after the 98SE installation, but it feels like a new machine, and it is *much* more responsive than before, so I think the whole exercise was definitely worth it! 3. I was hoping that you would have created 2 partitions on your 6.1G hard drive. A big C: say 5.6G and a small D: say 500M. The reason mdb suggested that as I would have also is that you could copy the cab files from the oem cdrom and installed from the D: drive. One benefit is speed but the main reason for doing it this way is so that you can copy all the relevant drivers (video, audio, nic, and others) to the D: drive so that the NEXT time you have to reload, the only thing you need is a generic boot floppy that can "see" the hard drive since all the stuff you need is on the D: drive, no hunting around for things that might have gotten lost, stollen, etc..... As time passes, it gets more and more difficult to find drivers for particular models from the Internet. Some companies are better at it than others. Remember that official support stops for W98SE in June which means manufactures will no longer have to supply anything for the OS after that. Thanks for the additional info - I hope mdp isn't too upset that I ignored his advice at the time - I guess I was looking for the easiest route. I can now see the benefit of 2 partitions. I better put these drivers etc. in a safe place! And yes Gary, I was rooting for you to get him going. A very interesting read. Thanks. One last thing, someone mentioned that the oem cd has oem in the key id string and that is one way to tell oems from others. THIS IS NOT THE CASE with W98SE. W98SE oem cdroms have a 25 item alpha numeric string that is broken up into 5 groups of 5 numbers/letters. Only the W95 oems had the oem string in the key id. I hope this folklore will die. ALL of the W98SE I have seen follow this rule. If I am wrong, show proof. Thank you for your comprehensive message! Regards Herbert Eppel None taken. Still enjoy reading, learning, and occasionally helping when I can. |
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