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can i use files from XP on Win 98?
i copied some files needed (from my windows XP laptop for a friend who uses
windows 98) onto a CD-RW cd. when i tried to use the cd in the windows 98 computer, the cd was not recognised and came up with an error message D:\ is not accessible. The device is not ready. is this an XP vs 98 incompatability? she requires the files to install her printer. Cheers! |
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Whatever was written to CD with the native XP writing utility is in UDF
format by a crippled Roxio writing utility. The 98 PC needs a corresponding reader of that form of UDF. Commercial software CDs are written in ISO 9660 format. Commonly available in 3rd party burning software. All versions of windows can read this natively, if the CD reading device is working correctly. "D Angelo" wrote in message ... i copied some files needed (from my windows XP laptop for a friend who uses windows 98) onto a CD-RW cd. when i tried to use the cd in the windows 98 computer, the cd was not recognised and came up with an error message D:\ is not accessible. The device is not ready. is this an XP vs 98 incompatability? she requires the files to install her printer. Cheers! |
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To add:
Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP burner) -- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for Win9x, can be used to read such CDs: http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...dfreader_7.exe BTW, that is not obligatory, that the files from Win2000/XP, even with the same names, will work in Win98: they can expect the other version of OS. Some of them will -- but not all. -- Mikhail Zhilin http://www.aha.ru/~mwz Sorry, no technical support by e-mail. Please reply to the newsgroups only. ====== On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 05:03:08 -0500, "Lil' Dave" wrote: Whatever was written to CD with the native XP writing utility is in UDF format by a crippled Roxio writing utility. The 98 PC needs a corresponding reader of that form of UDF. Commercial software CDs are written in ISO 9660 format. Commonly available in 3rd party burning software. All versions of windows can read this natively, if the CD reading device is working correctly. "D Angelo" wrote in message ... i copied some files needed (from my windows XP laptop for a friend who uses windows 98) onto a CD-RW cd. when i tried to use the cd in the windows 98 computer, the cd was not recognised and came up with an error message D:\ is not accessible. The device is not ready. is this an XP vs 98 incompatability? she requires the files to install her printer. Cheers! |
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Have noted that some people have trouble reading CDs written with INCD by
another PC. In some cases, its because they're using different versions of that software betwixt different PCs. I always thought is was a difference in UDF between the software writers for same. Apparently, this is not the case even using the same makers software. Right-clicking the burner drive letter in Winexplorer, selecting properties, and the tab for burning, will show that Roxio is used in XP. Its not using packet writing. It is using UDF format to write the files to the CD. XP uses a staging area to cache files that can subsequently written to CD. To avoid the hassle and confusion, I suggest writing files in ISO 9660 format to CD, if you know its going to another operating system for its use. "Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message ... To add: Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP burner) -- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for Win9x, can be used to read such CDs: http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...dfreader_7.exe BTW, that is not obligatory, that the files from Win2000/XP, even with the same names, will work in Win98: they can expect the other version of OS. Some of them will -- but not all. -- Mikhail Zhilin http://www.aha.ru/~mwz Sorry, no technical support by e-mail. Please reply to the newsgroups only. ====== On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 05:03:08 -0500, "Lil' Dave" wrote: Whatever was written to CD with the native XP writing utility is in UDF format by a crippled Roxio writing utility. The 98 PC needs a corresponding reader of that form of UDF. Commercial software CDs are written in ISO 9660 format. Commonly available in 3rd party burning software. All versions of windows can read this natively, if the CD reading device is working correctly. "D Angelo" wrote in message ... i copied some files needed (from my windows XP laptop for a friend who uses windows 98) onto a CD-RW cd. when i tried to use the cd in the windows 98 computer, the cd was not recognised and came up with an error message D:\ is not accessible. The device is not ready. is this an XP vs 98 incompatability? she requires the files to install her printer. Cheers! |
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On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:13:31 -0500, "Lil' Dave"
wrote: ... To avoid the hassle and confusion, I suggest writing files in ISO 9660 format to CD, if you know its going to another operating system for its use. Sure. BTW, as I saw only after had posted that message and downloaded this file myself -- UDF-Reader from the link I gave didn't want to install at my computer with the wording something like: "Can't upgrade UDF Reader because you have no Roxio programs installed" -- while the description at their site says, that this file is intended for use at the computers with no Roxio product installed... ( off topic I remember the first days of the Roxio site -- when Roxio became self-dependent, but not an Adaptec subdivision. The first page said: "Remember now and forever. We are not Adaptec. We are Roxio". And -- yes, I do remember that still. And see that. /off topic -- Mikhail Zhilin http://www.aha.ru/~mwz Sorry, no technical support by e-mail. Please reply to the newsgroups only. ====== "Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message .. . To add: Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP burner) -- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for Win9x, can be used to read such CDs: http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...dfreader_7.exe ... |
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What software was used to write to the CD-RW?
If the Win98 computer does not have the ability to read a CD-RW (either because the disc was written in UDF format, or because the CD drive on the Win98 machine cannot read RW discs), burn a new disc using either the native WinXP CD burning utility (which does not write in UDF format), or use a CD-mastering app if one is installed (Record Now, Easy CD Creator, Nero Burning ROM).....and use a CD-R disc instead of a CD-RW disc. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "D Angelo" wrote in message ... i copied some files needed (from my windows XP laptop for a friend who uses windows 98) onto a CD-RW cd. when i tried to use the cd in the windows 98 computer, the cd was not recognised and came up with an error message D:\ is not accessible. The device is not ready. is this an XP vs 98 incompatability? she requires the files to install her printer. Cheers! |
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Made of an ass of myself again by jumping to conclusions. XP's writing
software writes the CD in redbook for audio, and joliet for data with imapi.exe Guess PCs can't read joliet, an extension of ISO 9660, natively unless XP is installed? "Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:13:31 -0500, "Lil' Dave" wrote: ... To avoid the hassle and confusion, I suggest writing files in ISO 9660 format to CD, if you know its going to another operating system for its use. Sure. BTW, as I saw only after had posted that message and downloaded this file myself -- UDF-Reader from the link I gave didn't want to install at my computer with the wording something like: "Can't upgrade UDF Reader because you have no Roxio programs installed" -- while the description at their site says, that this file is intended for use at the computers with no Roxio product installed... ( off topic I remember the first days of the Roxio site -- when Roxio became self-dependent, but not an Adaptec subdivision. The first page said: "Remember now and forever. We are not Adaptec. We are Roxio". And -- yes, I do remember that still. And see that. /off topic -- Mikhail Zhilin http://www.aha.ru/~mwz Sorry, no technical support by e-mail. Please reply to the newsgroups only. ====== "Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message .. . To add: Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP burner) -- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for Win9x, can be used to read such CDs: http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...il/drivers/upd ateudfreader_7.exe ... |
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"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
... Made of an ass of myself again by jumping to conclusions. XP's writing software writes the CD in redbook for audio, and joliet for data with imapi.exe Guess PCs can't read joliet, an extension of ISO 9660, natively unless XP is installed? ?? Any modern CD-ROM drive with any version of Windows should be able to read Joliet discs. Joliet is an extension of the ISO 9660 standard, developed by Microsoft, to allow CDs to be recorded using long filenames (it also allows for using the Unicode character set). Joliet allows you to use filenames up to 64 characters in length, including spaces. Usually the software used for burning also records the associated DOS name for each file. Filenames longer than 30 characters are truncated and the tilde (~) is added, followed by a number. Even MS-DOS should be able to read a Joliet disc....the filenames will just be shown in DOS 8+3 format: FILENA~1.EXT -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:13:31 -0500, "Lil' Dave" wrote: ... To avoid the hassle and confusion, I suggest writing files in ISO 9660 format to CD, if you know its going to another operating system for its use. Sure. BTW, as I saw only after had posted that message and downloaded this file myself -- UDF-Reader from the link I gave didn't want to install at my computer with the wording something like: "Can't upgrade UDF Reader because you have no Roxio programs installed" -- while the description at their site says, that this file is intended for use at the computers with no Roxio product installed... ( off topic I remember the first days of the Roxio site -- when Roxio became self-dependent, but not an Adaptec subdivision. The first page said: "Remember now and forever. We are not Adaptec. We are Roxio". And -- yes, I do remember that still. And see that. /off topic -- Mikhail Zhilin http://www.aha.ru/~mwz Sorry, no technical support by e-mail. Please reply to the newsgroups only. ====== "Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message .. . To add: Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP burner) -- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for Win9x, can be used to read such CDs: http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...il/drivers/upd ateudfreader_7.exe ... |
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So non-XP PCs should be able to read a CD written in the native XP
environment with its CD writer? "glee" wrote in message ... "Lil' Dave" wrote in message ... Made of an ass of myself again by jumping to conclusions. XP's writing software writes the CD in redbook for audio, and joliet for data with imapi.exe Guess PCs can't read joliet, an extension of ISO 9660, natively unless XP is installed? ?? Any modern CD-ROM drive with any version of Windows should be able to read Joliet discs. Joliet is an extension of the ISO 9660 standard, developed by Microsoft, to allow CDs to be recorded using long filenames (it also allows for using the Unicode character set). Joliet allows you to use filenames up to 64 characters in length, including spaces. Usually the software used for burning also records the associated DOS name for each file. Filenames longer than 30 characters are truncated and the tilde (~) is added, followed by a number. Even MS-DOS should be able to read a Joliet disc....the filenames will just be shown in DOS 8+3 format: FILENA~1.EXT -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:13:31 -0500, "Lil' Dave" wrote: ... To avoid the hassle and confusion, I suggest writing files in ISO 9660 format to CD, if you know its going to another operating system for its use. Sure. BTW, as I saw only after had posted that message and downloaded this file myself -- UDF-Reader from the link I gave didn't want to install at my computer with the wording something like: "Can't upgrade UDF Reader because you have no Roxio programs installed" -- while the description at their site says, that this file is intended for use at the computers with no Roxio product installed... ( off topic I remember the first days of the Roxio site -- when Roxio became self-dependent, but not an Adaptec subdivision. The first page said: "Remember now and forever. We are not Adaptec. We are Roxio". And -- yes, I do remember that still. And see that. /off topic -- Mikhail Zhilin http://www.aha.ru/~mwz Sorry, no technical support by e-mail. Please reply to the newsgroups only. ====== "Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message .. . To add: Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP burner) -- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for Win9x, can be used to read such CDs: http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...il/drivers/upd ateudfreader_7.exe ... |
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I write CD's at work with both the native WinXP burning utility, and also with
Record Now, on the XP machines, and read them at home on all my computers running Win98SE, FWIW. YMMV. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lil' Dave" wrote in message ... So non-XP PCs should be able to read a CD written in the native XP environment with its CD writer? "glee" wrote in message ... "Lil' Dave" wrote in message ... Made of an ass of myself again by jumping to conclusions. XP's writing software writes the CD in redbook for audio, and joliet for data with imapi.exe Guess PCs can't read joliet, an extension of ISO 9660, natively unless XP is installed? ?? Any modern CD-ROM drive with any version of Windows should be able to read Joliet discs. Joliet is an extension of the ISO 9660 standard, developed by Microsoft, to allow CDs to be recorded using long filenames (it also allows for using the Unicode character set). Joliet allows you to use filenames up to 64 characters in length, including spaces. Usually the software used for burning also records the associated DOS name for each file. Filenames longer than 30 characters are truncated and the tilde (~) is added, followed by a number. Even MS-DOS should be able to read a Joliet disc....the filenames will just be shown in DOS 8+3 format: FILENA~1.EXT -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:13:31 -0500, "Lil' Dave" wrote: ... To avoid the hassle and confusion, I suggest writing files in ISO 9660 format to CD, if you know its going to another operating system for its use. Sure. BTW, as I saw only after had posted that message and downloaded this file myself -- UDF-Reader from the link I gave didn't want to install at my computer with the wording something like: "Can't upgrade UDF Reader because you have no Roxio programs installed" -- while the description at their site says, that this file is intended for use at the computers with no Roxio product installed... ( off topic I remember the first days of the Roxio site -- when Roxio became self-dependent, but not an Adaptec subdivision. The first page said: "Remember now and forever. We are not Adaptec. We are Roxio". And -- yes, I do remember that still. And see that. /off topic -- Mikhail Zhilin http://www.aha.ru/~mwz Sorry, no technical support by e-mail. Please reply to the newsgroups only. ====== "Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message .. . To add: Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP burner) -- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for Win9x, can be used to read such CDs: http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...il/drivers/upd ateudfreader_7.exe ... |
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