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Old April 5th 12, 09:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
gargoyle60
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Default Windows 98 updates

My old PC (which cannot be upgraded beyond Windows 98 due to its limited specs) has Windows 98 and I
want to clear down the entire disk and reinstall Windows 98.

However, when I try to perform a Windows 98 Update the Microsoft website says it is no longer
available or cannot respond (I can't remember the exact message, I'm on another machine at the
moment).

The last time I did a complete reinstall of Windows 98 was in 2009 and Windows Update worked okay
then. I thought that it was still possible to perform a Windows Update to apply all the cumulative
historical Windows 98 patches - has this facility now been retired?

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Old April 5th 12, 10:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default Windows 98 updates

gargoyle60 wrote in
:

My old PC (which cannot be upgraded beyond Windows 98 due to its limited
specs) has Windows 98 and I want to clear down the entire disk and
reinstall Windows 98.

However, when I try to perform a Windows 98 Update the Microsoft website
says it is no longer available or cannot respond (I can't remember the
exact message, I'm on another machine at the moment).

The last time I did a complete reinstall of Windows 98 was in 2009 and
Windows Update worked okay then. I thought that it was still possible to
perform a Windows Update to apply all the cumulative historical Windows
98 patches - has this facility now been retired?



It's long gone, but if you try on Google you will likely find collections of
W9X and also WXP patches and fixes and updates of all possible types. Grab
them all. People are headed toward tablets to the point where desktop
machines may become rare and expensive. If you want support for an old
machine, get it and save it, you might soon be dependent on your own stores.
  #3  
Old April 5th 12, 01:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Default Windows 98 updates

gargoyle60 wrote:

My old PC (which cannot be upgraded beyond Windows 98 due to its
limited specs) has Windows 98


There are many used IBM desktop computers with 3.2 ghz P4 cpu's, 512 mb
ram and 80 gb hard drives that came off-lease that are being sold in
discount electronics and surplus stores for about $100 (with new mouse
and keyboard). They come with Windows XP pre-installed.

The last time I did a complete reinstall of Windows 98 was in
2009 and Windows Update worked okay then. I thought that it was
still possible to perform a Windows Update to apply all the
cumulative historical Windows 98 patches - has this facility
now been retired?


Microsoft made a change to their update site that broke windows 98.

I highly suggest that if you don't already have it, that you obtain and
install Windows 98(se) *second edition* (not First Edition aka Standard
Edition). It's easily available on torrents.

http://dl5.torrentreactor.net/downlo...+CD+%2B+CD+Key

If you don't have a windows 98se product key, try one of these:

VFJMK - P9XMW - 4KYXP - RVV89 - Q7J3J
FXJGV - V47K8 - 9TKJ3 - 4UVBT - CTCFW
TJKTG - TFVPY - YK87C - 8TJVV - BKRFV
HH872 - 6RM2K - FPPWV - V9HDB - BK708
FVV68 - CP77T - 3VFBV - J39XB - PBKHB
VYPK3 - 6V2M9 - XM76K - HJ7P9 - 3BMBJ
QQBV8 - GCGMC - 7CHW3 - 3F7MF - TC878

You will find all of the microsoft update (and much more) he

http://www.mdgx.com/upd98me.php

I also highly suggest you install KernelEx:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/kernelex/

There is a version of windows 98(se) with many updates and patches
built-in that's available on torrents:

Window98.ubcd.feb2008.Ajeetgagan.torrent

http://www.torrentcrazy.com/download...tgagan.torrent
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Old April 6th 12, 12:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Sjouke Burry[_3_]
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Default Windows 98 updates

gargoyle60 wrote in
:

My old PC (which cannot be upgraded beyond Windows 98 due to its
limited specs) has Windows 98 and I want to clear down the entire disk
and reinstall Windows 98.

However, when I try to perform a Windows 98 Update the Microsoft
website says it is no longer available or cannot respond (I can't
remember the exact message, I'm on another machine at the moment).

The last time I did a complete reinstall of Windows 98 was in 2009 and
Windows Update worked okay then. I thought that it was still possible
to perform a Windows Update to apply all the cumulative historical
Windows 98 patches - has this facility now been retired?


Google for win98 sp3(unofficial). worked fine for me, and
contains all(most) of the updates.
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Old April 6th 12, 01:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
philo
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Default Windows 98 updates


"Sjouke Burry" s@b wrote in message
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gargoyle60 wrote in
:

My old PC (which cannot be upgraded beyond Windows 98 due to its
limited specs) has Windows 98 and I want to clear down the entire disk
and reinstall Windows 98.

However, when I try to perform a Windows 98 Update the Microsoft
website says it is no longer available or cannot respond (I can't
remember the exact message, I'm on another machine at the moment).

The last time I did a complete reinstall of Windows 98 was in 2009 and
Windows Update worked okay then. I thought that it was still possible
to perform a Windows Update to apply all the cumulative historical
Windows 98 patches - has this facility now been retired?


Google for win98 sp3(unofficial). worked fine for me, and
contains all(most) of the updates.



I've used that before and it works

to get the win98 updates IIRC you need to install IE6 first


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Old April 6th 12, 10:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Windows 98 updates

In message , 98 Guy writes:
gargoyle60 wrote:

My old PC (which cannot be upgraded beyond Windows 98 due to its
limited specs) has Windows 98


There are many used IBM desktop computers with 3.2 ghz P4 cpu's, 512 mb
ram and 80 gb hard drives that came off-lease that are being sold in
discount electronics and surplus stores for about $100 (with new mouse
and keyboard). They come with Windows XP pre-installed.


Indeed. (Is that really 98 Guy writing that?!?) [Though I'd go for 1G
RAM; I find my use of XPSP3 is usually using more than 512M (though less
than 3/4 G, so that might do). There are people who find 512 enough,
though.]
[]
Microsoft made a change to their update site that broke windows 98.


Interesting.

I highly suggest that if you don't already have it, that you obtain and
install Windows 98(se) *second edition* (not First Edition aka Standard
Edition). It's easily available on torrents.


Or possibly (as a genuine CD) at marts.
[]
There is a version of windows 98(se) with many updates and patches
built-in that's available on torrents:

Window98.ubcd.feb2008.Ajeetgagan.torrent

http://www.torrentcrazy.com/download...573f28c09e737e
e3286/window98.ubcd.feb2008.ajeetgagan.torrent


Assuming that's "Soporific's 10th anniversary edition" of W98, then yes,
_for a fresh install_, I'd highly recommend it too. It contains drivers
for much hardware that has appeared since 98SE, some patches, and much
else that it shouldn't (-:!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I can live with doubt, and uncertainty, and not knowing. I think it's much
more *interesting* to live not knowing than to have answers which might be
wrong. - Richard Feynman, in 1981 Horizon interview
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Old April 6th 12, 02:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Default Windows 98 updates

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

There are many used IBM desktop computers ... that came off-lease
that are being sold in discount electronics and surplus stores for
about $100


Indeed. (Is that really 98 Guy writing that?!?)


I've bought a few such computers (for certain family members) and
replaced their 40 or 80 gb IDE drives and CD-rom drives with 500 gb SATA
and DVD-RW drives (yes - those computers have unused SATA connectors on
their motherboards. And I've installed XP-sp3 (system builder version)
on them.

But I bring up these cheap (yet some-what modern) computers as an option
for those still running 98 on pathetically old hardware, with the intent
that they wipe the hard drive and install win-98 on them.

Because (as I've said countless times) there's no reason why people have
to keep using 10-year-old computers to run win-98 when they can get a
5-year-old computer for about $100.

The IBM computers in question date from a time-frame where most or all
of the system's hardware components have win-98 drivers available (on
the net if you search for them).
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Old April 7th 12, 01:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Buffalo
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Default Windows 98 updates



98 Guy wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

There are many used IBM desktop computers ... that came off-lease
that are being sold in discount electronics and surplus stores for
about $100


Indeed. (Is that really 98 Guy writing that?!?)


I've bought a few such computers (for certain family members) and
replaced their 40 or 80 gb IDE drives and CD-rom drives with 500 gb
SATA and DVD-RW drives (yes - those computers have unused SATA
connectors on their motherboards. And I've installed XP-sp3 (system
builder version) on them.

But I bring up these cheap (yet some-what modern) computers as an
option for those still running 98 on pathetically old hardware, with
the intent that they wipe the hard drive and install win-98 on them.

Because (as I've said countless times) there's no reason why people
have to keep using 10-year-old computers to run win-98 when they can
get a 5-year-old computer for about $100.

The IBM computers in question date from a time-frame where most or all
of the system's hardware components have win-98 drivers available (on
the net if you search for them).


Nice. Any idea how I can locate one of those in Colorado?
Thanks,
Buffalo


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Old April 7th 12, 02:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Default Windows 98 updates

Buffalo wrote:

Nice. Any idea how I can locate one of those in Colorado?


I posted the following right here in this newsgroup on Feb 2 (about 5 or
6 weeks ago) in a thread with this title:

Subject: How to gain access to websites that require latest Java
installed

-----------------------------

Lee wrote:

I can only assume it's the MMX issue all over again. It doesn't
seem to run on my 98. Nice try?


I told you to throw your ancient computer in the garbage and pick up a
used P4 computer.

What city is closer to you?

Denver, Colorado Springs, or Pueblo?

Check out Action PC. They have a location in south Denver and north
Arvada:

http://www.actionpc.com/

Scroll half-way down that page and see these:


Want to surf the internet and check email?
This one is for you!
Dell Optiplex GX270 Mini Desktop
Pentium 4 CPU
512MB DDR RAM
NO Optical Drive
40GB+ IDE Hard Drive
Windows XP Professional
*$45.95
* You MUST mention the website to get Black November Pricing.

That computer has an Intel 865G chipset, which means there are Windows
98 drivers for it, which means you'll be able to install win-98 on it.

They have a few other computer choices between $50 and $150.
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Old April 7th 12, 02:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Buffalo
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Default Windows 98 updates



98 Guy wrote:
Buffalo wrote:

Nice. Any idea how I can locate one of those in Colorado?


I posted the following right here in this newsgroup on Feb 2 (about 5
or 6 weeks ago) in a thread with this title:

Subject: How to gain access to websites that require latest Java
installed

-----------------------------

Lee wrote:

I can only assume it's the MMX issue all over again. It doesn't
seem to run on my 98. Nice try?


I told you to throw your ancient computer in the garbage and pick up a
used P4 computer.

What city is closer to you?

Denver, Colorado Springs, or Pueblo?

Check out Action PC. They have a location in south Denver and north
Arvada:

http://www.actionpc.com/


Thanks for that info.
Buffalo

Scroll half-way down that page and see these:


Want to surf the internet and check email?
This one is for you!
Dell Optiplex GX270 Mini Desktop
Pentium 4 CPU
512MB DDR RAM
NO Optical Drive
40GB+ IDE Hard Drive
Windows XP Professional
*$45.95
* You MUST mention the website to get Black November Pricing.

That computer has an Intel 865G chipset, which means there are Windows
98 drivers for it, which means you'll be able to install win-98 on it.

They have a few other computer choices between $50 and $150.



 




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