If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Making Win98 work on the internet
First, Alan, I'm curious as to why you chose to post your question to
this group: microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update I ask because that newsgroup has had no traffic for many months, if not years. I notice that you are posting via giganews. Does giganews not carry the much more active (and probably the defacto win-98 newsgroup) - microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion ??? I am cross-posting your message to that group, where it will be seen (for better or worse) by what appears to be the last remaining rag-tag collection of people that still pay some attention or interest to Windows 98. Alan Justice wrote: I have Win98, IE 6.0, 256 MB RAM, and 500 MHz Dell. All I use it for is internet access but many sites don't support my system. Alan, I could post pages of technical and perhaps not-so-easy-to-follow instructions informing you how to "beef up" your installation of windows 98 to make it more compatible with several different aspects of web technology. I could start down that path, but more than likely you will not follow it (for one reason or another). In fact, I really don't expect to ever see you reply back here in this thread that you've started (most one-time posters don't come back). I'm not trying to scare you off - I hope you do come back. The odds are that you will read this, but you won't follow through and show that you're really interested. So I'll just say that there is a lot you can do with a win-98 system to make it compatible with the web, and you won't see any such nag screens telling you that your system is not compatible. You just have to come back here and say that you're really interested and committed to trying. I can't even access the Win update site! Microsoft made some changes about 6 months ago that made the windows-update server incompatible with windows 98. But if you visited that site at any time from mid-2006 up until mid 2011 then your system will have everything it needs. Microsoft has not added anything new for win-98 systems on that site since July 2006. Is there any hope with this system, or do I need a new computer? It's up to you. Technically, windows 98 and your system is capable of being enhanced to achieve what you are looking for. |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Making Win98 work on the internet
98 Guy wrote:
First, Alan, I'm curious as to why you chose to post your question to this group: microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update I ask because that newsgroup has had no traffic for many months, if not years. I notice that you are posting via giganews. Does giganews not carry the much more active (and probably the defacto win-98 newsgroup) - microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion ??? I am cross-posting your message to that group, where it will be seen (for better or worse) by what appears to be the last remaining rag-tag collection of people that still pay some attention or interest to Windows 98. Alan Justice wrote: I have Win98, IE 6.0, 256 MB RAM, and 500 MHz Dell. All I use it for is internet access but many sites don't support my system. Alan, I could post pages of technical and perhaps not-so-easy-to-follow instructions informing you how to "beef up" your installation of windows 98 to make it more compatible with several different aspects of web technology. I could start down that path, but more than likely you will not follow it (for one reason or another). In fact, I really don't expect to ever see you reply back here in this thread that you've started (most one-time posters don't come back). I'm not trying to scare you off - I hope you do come back. The odds are that you will read this, but you won't follow through and show that you're really interested. So I'll just say that there is a lot you can do with a win-98 system to make it compatible with the web, and you won't see any such nag screens telling you that your system is not compatible. You just have to come back here and say that you're really interested and committed to trying. I can't even access the Win update site! Microsoft made some changes about 6 months ago that made the windows-update server incompatible with windows 98. But if you visited that site at any time from mid-2006 up until mid 2011 then your system will have everything it needs. Microsoft has not added anything new for win-98 systems on that site since July 2006. Is there any hope with this system, or do I need a new computer? It's up to you. Technically, windows 98 and your system is capable of being enhanced to achieve what you are looking for. If I were in his shoes, I'd recommend he get an additional 256MB of RAM, and install Firefox or Pale Moon to handle the websites (but maybe not the latest versions, though). And preferably Win98SE, if he can still find it. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Making Win98 work on the internet
"Bill in Co" wrote in
m: And preferably Win98SE, if he can still find it. eBay. I've seen a few occasionally. Beats the hell out of paying for a new OS, maybe... |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Making Win98 work on the internet
98 Guy wrote in :
Alan Justice wrote: I have Win98, IE 6.0, 256 MB RAM, and 500 MHz Dell. All I use it for is internet access but many sites don't support my system. If ONLY for internet access, it might be better to go for a new tablet machine with all the fixtures and fittings pre-installed. That's a very different need than for a workstation machine where it pays to do our own research and customisations. I strongly advise against keeping personal records on some new machine though, especially financial or secure login and account details. Never trust some off-the-shelf new machine to be secure, they are prime targets for attack. Treat them like a bus station doorway, and watch your step the same way you do around busses and strangers hustling about. (I think many more people may come to separate the net from their work and home machines, the same way they shut the world out when they want to do private stuff in a secure house. It's not fashionable to think this way with do-it-all telephonic wingdings with more ringtones than a jukebox, and people touting 'cloud computing', but not everyone will rush in like fools where angels fear to tread. And watching lemmings is always more fun from a safe distance away from the edge). |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Making Win98 work on the internet
"98 Guy" wrote in message ... First, Alan, I'm curious as to why you chose to post your question to this group: microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update I ask because that newsgroup has had no traffic for many months, if not years. I notice that you are posting via giganews. Does giganews not carry the much more active (and probably the defacto win-98 newsgroup) - microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion ??? I am cross-posting your message to that group, where it will be seen (for better or worse) by what appears to be the last remaining rag-tag collection of people that still pay some attention or interest to Windows 98. Alan Justice wrote: I have Win98, IE 6.0, 256 MB RAM, and 500 MHz Dell. All I use it for is internet access but many sites don't support my system. Alan, I could post pages of technical and perhaps not-so-easy-to-follow instructions informing you how to "beef up" your installation of windows 98 to make it more compatible with several different aspects of web technology. I could start down that path, but more than likely you will not follow it (for one reason or another). In fact, I really don't expect to ever see you reply back here in this thread that you've started (most one-time posters don't come back). I'm not trying to scare you off - I hope you do come back. The odds are that you will read this, but you won't follow through and show that you're really interested. So I'll just say that there is a lot you can do with a win-98 system to make it compatible with the web, and you won't see any such nag screens telling you that your system is not compatible. You just have to come back here and say that you're really interested and committed to trying. I can't even access the Win update site! Microsoft made some changes about 6 months ago that made the windows-update server incompatible with windows 98. But if you visited that site at any time from mid-2006 up until mid 2011 then your system will have everything it needs. Microsoft has not added anything new for win-98 systems on that site since July 2006. Is there any hope with this system, or do I need a new computer? It's up to you. Technically, windows 98 and your system is capable of being enhanced to achieve what you are looking for. The last post to this group was 2 years, so I am amazed that I got a response right away. You must have some way of automatically checking groups for activity. I tried to access some other windows update groups but they would not load. The last time I checked the Windows Update site it gave no recommendations for me. It's not that I'm married to Win98. What's the latest OS I can update to on this machine? And how much will it help? I only have dial-up. DSL has just been introduced to my area, but I can't get it through Earthlink, only the phone company (Frontier, which bought Verizon). I need to keep Earthlink because of my business web site. I do have a more recent computer (XP, 2.8 GHz, 2 GB SD RAM) that I use for image processing, but since I finally got a digital camera, I may want to update that and replace my internet computer with it. -- Alan Justice http://home.earthlink.net/~wildlifepaparazzi/ |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Making Win98 work on the internet
"Lostgallifreyan" wrote in message .. . 98 Guy wrote in : Alan Justice wrote: I have Win98, IE 6.0, 256 MB RAM, and 500 MHz Dell. All I use it for is internet access but many sites don't support my system. If ONLY for internet access, it might be better to go for a new tablet machine with all the fixtures and fittings pre-installed. That's a very different need than for a workstation machine where it pays to do our own research and customisations. I strongly advise against keeping personal records on some new machine though, especially financial or secure login and account details. Never trust some off-the-shelf new machine to be secure, they are prime targets for attack. Treat them like a bus station doorway, and watch your step the same way you do around busses and strangers hustling about. (I think many more people may come to separate the net from their work and home machines, the same way they shut the world out when they want to do private stuff in a secure house. It's not fashionable to think this way with do-it-all telephonic wingdings with more ringtones than a jukebox, and people touting 'cloud computing', but not everyone will rush in like fools where angels fear to tread. And watching lemmings is always more fun from a safe distance away from the edge). I think that with dial-up, I'm not much of a target, right? -- Alan Justice http://home.earthlink.net/~wildlifepaparazzi/ |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Making Win98 work on the internet
|
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Making Win98 work on the internet
|
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Making Win98 work on the internet
Alan Justice wrote:
I think that with dial-up, I'm not much of a target, right? It's not so much that you're not a target because of your dial-up connection. Your win-98 system is not a target for malware, viruses, trojans or worms because windows 98 is/was much less vulnerable to web-based exploitation than NT-based versions (windows 2k, XP, etc). There were many holes and vulnerabilities for the combination of IE6/Windows-XP/Java/Adobe-PDF during the years 2002 through 2006 that resulted in those systems being constantly comprimized and infected with malware. Windows 98 (because of it's relative "simplicity") was not impacted or simply not vulnerable to the vast majority of those exploits during those years (a fact that Microsoft and the technical press and media either did not recognize or did not want to mention). Alan - based on what you wrote it sounds like you probably won't make the effort to enhance your win-98 system given that you have other options and priorities. And because of the software you'll need to download to enhance and update your win-98 system, you probably won't do it because it's only practical to do it through a broad-band (not dial-up) connection. I think your first priority is not what to do with your win-98 system. You should first look into replacing your dialup connection with a highspeed, broad-band connection. |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Making Win98 work on the internet
On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 05:28:00 -0600, Lostgallifreyan
wrote: "Alan Justice" wrote in news:tr- : I do have a more recent computer (XP, 2.8 GHz, 2 GB SD RAM) that I use for image processing, but since I finally got a digital camera, I may want to update that and replace my internet computer with it. That machine is your best bet. A 500 MHz machine will look weak if you try to run WXP on it, unless you know more than most people do about streamlining it. Stay with W98 SE on that, you'll just about make it cope with XviD playback if you're lucky, it won't do much more. If you want more from that camera than shuttling CF cards between it and a reader/adapter, you'll need some modern USB support and other drivers that USB will do ok as supplied. Dump that I.E v6 if at all possible. Even Microsoft kind of wish that hadn't happened... I agree about dumping IE. Get Firefox and/or K-Meleon. Your 500mhz machine will run Windows 2000. I suggest making a dual booting system withg 98 and 2000. Thats what I have. I mostly just use 2000 for easy access to USB stuff. Win98 is still the best OS, but it's lousy with USB support. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Making XP desktop look like Win98 | [email protected] | General | 143 | June 13th 10 06:15 PM |
Making XP desktop look like Win98 | [email protected] | General | 0 | June 7th 10 05:39 AM |
making a copy of win98 | MIKEFOTHREE | General | 3 | November 18th 04 06:24 PM |
Internet work work properly due to network config?? HELP | rob --- | Internet | 0 | August 26th 04 01:05 AM |
Making 98 work with Win Office 2000 runtimes of Access? | Brian Gaff | General | 1 | June 21st 04 06:26 PM |