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Old December 5th 14, 12:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
bloatwaresucks
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Default how to create an multi installation for all versions of a program

does anyone know of any resources for how to do this? for instance, win 95, 98 and me share probably 50% of the same files ......so, if you unpack the installs for each, group the common files, create a common.files.cab and change all references to them to point to the cab file. i also want to do this for firefox, mozilla, netscape or any program for that matter ........


any help would be appreciated
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Old December 5th 14, 11:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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"bloatwaresucks" wrote in message
...
does anyone know of any resources for how to do this? for instance, win
95, 98 and me share probably 50% of the same files ......so, if you unpack
the installs for each, group the common files, create a common.files.cab
and change all references to them to point to the cab file. i also want to
do this for firefox, mozilla, netscape or any program for that matter
........


any help would be appreciated



Use this to set it up with
Virtual PC 2007

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=4580

For with Microsoft Virtual PC


My PC have
Two Hard Drives

0 HDD 126 gb =
C:/XP 120gb D:/XP_RECOVERY 6gb

0 DVD-RW = E:/

1 HDD 126 gb = F:/
1 CD-RW= G:/

Make Files path in F:/

F:\Program Files\
F:\Program Files\Common Files
F:\Software
F:\Temp

Install on F:\

"F:\Program Files\Virtual PC 2007\Virtual PC.exe"

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Old December 6th 14, 02:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy[_3_]
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Default how to create an multi installation for all versions of a program

bloatwaresucks wrote:

does anyone know of any resources for how to do this?
for instance, win 95, 98 and me share probably 50% of the same files


That's a completely wrong assessment, but go on.

......so, if you unpack the installs for each, group the common
files, create a common.files.cab and change all references to
them to point to the cab file. i also want to do this for
firefox, mozilla, netscape or any program for that matter .......


As usual, Dumb-text gave a completely irrelevant answer (which, as
typical for him, involves the use of a virtual machine, because he is
incapable of assembling or obtaining a computer with full driver-support
for windows 98).

Your desire to disassemble and unpack the install packages and cab files
for various software packages and somehow re-engineer the installation
scripts and re-pack the archives in a complex way to draw out the
correct files at install time from a common archive - is a completely
worthless excercise, if it can be done at all.

It's worthless because storage space (be it on a DVD, thumb drive, cloud
storage / web-download or a local hard drive) is available in ridiculous
abundance so as to make any effort to repackage many versions of various
software packages into a space-saving "intelligent" archive of no value
whatsoever.
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Old December 7th 14, 11:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
R.Wieser
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Default how to create an multi installation for all versions of a program

bloatwaresucks,

for instance, win 95, 98 and me share probably 50% of the same files


That's a completely wrong assessment, but go on.


I think it would be a good idea to first verify that that is actually true.
If removing doubles would not substancially shrink the total size of the CAB
files than your idea would really be putting a lot of energy into something
with a very small return.

Ofcourse, if its your hobby and you want to see how far you can go with it
than I'll be the last to stop you. :-)

does anyone know of any resources for how to do this?


What exactly are you looking for (your current question is a bit too broad)?
And did you already try Google to find some info about CAB files and
installation scripts ?

As for extracting files from a .CAB file under Win98se you can use
"extract.exe" (in \windows\system)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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bloatwaresucks wrote:

does anyone know of any resources for how to do this?
for instance, win 95, 98 and me share probably 50% of the same files


That's a completely wrong assessment, but go on.

......so, if you unpack the installs for each, group the common
files, create a common.files.cab and change all references to
them to point to the cab file. i also want to do this for
firefox, mozilla, netscape or any program for that matter .......


As usual, Dumb-text gave a completely irrelevant answer (which, as
typical for him, involves the use of a virtual machine, because he is
incapable of assembling or obtaining a computer with full driver-support
for windows 98).

Your desire to disassemble and unpack the install packages and cab files
for various software packages and somehow re-engineer the installation
scripts and re-pack the archives in a complex way to draw out the
correct files at install time from a common archive - is a completely
worthless excercise, if it can be done at all.

It's worthless because storage space (be it on a DVD, thumb drive, cloud
storage / web-download or a local hard drive) is available in ridiculous
abundance so as to make any effort to repackage many versions of various
software packages into a space-saving "intelligent" archive of no value
whatsoever.



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Old December 8th 14, 05:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lee
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Default how to create an multi installation for all versions of a program

On Friday, December 5, 2014 4:56:42 AM UTC-7, bloatwaresucks wrote:
does anyone know of any resources for how to do this? for instance, win 95, 98 and me share probably 50% of the same files ......so, if you unpack the installs for each, group the common files, create a common.files.cab and change all references to them to point to the cab file. i also want to do this for firefox, mozilla, netscape or any program for that matter .........


any help would be appreciated


I'm thinking notepad and showdesktop.scf and that would be about it for files in common. But you'll need to use your web searching abilities on words such as
makecab
cabsdk

in combination with mdgx for the more relevant forum hits. Best of luck, since generating a list of common files alone is a task far larger than I care to think of. Especially when the end result is the same as I've already got. So it seems pointless to me, but you'll learn a few things and hopefully have fun.
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Old December 12th 14, 11:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
bloatware sucks
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well, i finally found my answer, and before i post the solution, i would just like to make a few points, if you don't mind:

computing in essence is (or was) an exercise in conceptual abstract thought brought to heel by the marriage of the technology available at any given time to assist in the ideas development until it morphs into something else, which also, as i might add, is merely a reflection of life itself (caterpillar into butterfly, baby to child, child to adult adult to elder , elder to dust and so goes the quartz clock of life gracing us with another irq so we can exist on the backplane of life ........(wow ...... does that mean philosophy is abstract as well? what if c-a-t spelled dog.... i think my head just exploded )

one one hand, i have a person that tells me the concept is an exercise in futility, (so he must understand the basics of the the concept but doesn't validate it) but negates it with deroggetory adjectives (i would call this very shortsighted) on the other hand, another person, has a smaller understanding in how it applies to his reality ( but, on his behalf also, the english vernacular gets lost in translation, because, if i'm correct, the virtual pc guy is asian, so english is not his first language ( i mean no disrespect, we were talking in ansi C but you know Visual basic better).

Now, I'm going to go and put my Stupositron Helmet on and sit in the corner where the less than intelligent people go when they've be a DDdiRRty BBbiiirrd and read up un an interesting little story aptly entitled:

Microsoft Deployment Toolkit and Single Instance Storage



(personally i don't think much is gonna come out of it , data storage technology should have (n to the 20th power)TB of storage by the time im finished typing this, so why be efficient when an application can have more whitepaper than code?as a matter of fact, white paper is the new code, wouldn't you agree? and that double entendre was my Tierce de Picardie, I graciuosly bow out on the conversational upswing .............. rebuttle, anyone?


(I might have taken a few verbal liberties here and there with a dash of fececiuosness and disdain, but i had to blow it out of proportion just a little to put it into perspective, and i didn't mean to offend anyone, but i will defend myself and my ideas, which are a reflection of me
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Old December 13th 14, 02:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Hot-Text
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Default You can run multi versions of windows at the same time

"Lee" wrote in message
news:e44d6bf4-6b37-48ee-8aeb-7cdbd4dda168
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On Friday, December 5, 2014 4:56:42 AM UTC-7, bloatwaresucks wrote:
does anyone know of any resources for how to do this?
for instance, win 95, 98 and me share probably 50% of the same files
......so,
if you unpack the installs for each, group the common files,
create a common.files.cab and change all references to them to point to
the cab file.
i also want to do this for firefox, mozilla, netscape
or any program for that matter ........

any help would be appreciated


I'm thinking notepad and showdesktop.scf and that would be about it for
files in common.


notepad 4.10.1998
52.0 KB (53,248 bytes), 57,344 bytes used

not common to

notepad 5.1.2600.5512
67.5 KB (69,120 bytes)

That's a 5.5 uncommon kb's

But you'll need to use your web searching abilities on words such as
makecab cabsdk

in combination with mdgx for the more relevant forum hits.
Best of luck, since generating a list of common files alone is a task far
larger than I care to think of.
Especially when the end result is the same as I've already got.
So it seems pointless to me,
but you'll learn a few things and hopefully have fun.


You can run multi versions of
Windows at the same time

That why I Use Virtual PC 2007

I can a install windows 98 se
In a moments or two

On a 20 MB Virtual Vhd
with a 128 md of Ram

Or a windows 98 fe
Or Windows 95 B

On a 10 MB Virtual Vhd
with a 64 md of Ram

Or a Windows 3.1
Or 95 A

On a 2 MB Virtual Vhd
with a 32 md of Ram

Or a Dos 266
Or Windows 3.0

On a 2 MB Virtual Vhd
with a 16 md of Ram

Out of a 126 GB
with 2 GB of Ram



You use About
34 GB of hhd
240 of Ram


 




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