Win98 computer cannot be seen on a network by XP and Vista Computers - PLEASE HELP!

"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
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On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:04:02 -0500, "Ian" wrote:


It isn't possible for Win98 to access a computer running Vista. Win98
can access XP. XP can access Win98 and Vista. Vista can access Win98
and XP.

I am trying to network a Vista machine and a Windows 98 machine (wireless
adapters with a Netgear router attached to a cable modem). I have one
printer attached to the Vista machine. Are you implying that it will be
impossible for the W98 machine to use the printer?


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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:04:32 -0000, "Henry Goodman"
wrote:

"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
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On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:04:02 -0500, "Ian" wrote:


It isn't possible for Win98 to access a computer running Vista. Win98
can access XP. XP can access Win98 and Vista. Vista can access Win98
and XP.

I am trying to network a Vista machine and a Windows 98 machine (wireless
adapters with a Netgear router attached to a cable modem). I have one
printer attached to the Vista machine. Are you implying that it will be
impossible for the W98 machine to use the printer?

Yes.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:04:32 -0000, "Henry Goodman"
wrote:

"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:04:02 -0500, "Ian" wrote:


It isn't possible for Win98 to access a computer running Vista. Win98
can access XP. XP can access Win98 and Vista. Vista can access Win98
and XP.

I am trying to network a Vista machine and a Windows 98 machine (wireless
adapters with a Netgear router attached to a cable modem). I have one
printer attached to the Vista machine. Are you implying that it will be
impossible for the W98 machine to use the printer?

Yes.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Hey Steve, isn't there a few hacks [which affect VISTA Security though] such
as:

http://forums.techguy.org/networking...in-98-win.html
http://forums.techarena.in/windows-v...ork/768471.htm

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"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:04:32 -0000, "Henry Goodman"
wrote:

"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:04:02 -0500, "Ian" wrote:


It isn't possible for Win98 to access a computer running Vista. Win98
can access XP. XP can access Win98 and Vista. Vista can access Win98
and XP.

I am trying to network a Vista machine and a Windows 98 machine (wireless
adapters with a Netgear router attached to a cable modem). I have one
printer attached to the Vista machine. Are you implying that it will be
impossible for the W98 machine to use the printer?

Yes.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Hey Steve, isn't there a few hacks [which affect VISTA Security though] such
as:

http://forums.techguy.org/networking...in-98-win.html
http://forums.techarena.in/windows-v...ork/768471.htm

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MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government
_______



"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:04:32 -0000, "Henry Goodman"
wrote:

"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:04:02 -0500, "Ian" wrote:


It isn't possible for Win98 to access a computer running Vista. Win98
can access XP. XP can access Win98 and Vista. Vista can access Win98
and XP.

I am trying to network a Vista machine and a Windows 98 machine (wireless
adapters with a Netgear router attached to a cable modem). I have one
printer attached to the Vista machine. Are you implying that it will be
impossible for the W98 machine to use the printer?

Yes.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:57:44 -0500, "MEB" MEB@not@here wrote:
"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
It isn't possible for Win98 to access a computer running Vista. Win98
can access XP. XP can access Win98 and Vista. Vista can access Win98
and XP.

Hey Steve, isn't there a few hacks [which affect VISTA Security though] such
as:

http://forums.techguy.org/networking...in-98-win.html
http://forums.techarena.in/windows-v...ork/768471.htm

I've tried those hacks, which allow Win98 and Vista to use the same
level of network security. However, I've never seen anyone report
success in accessing Vista's shares from Win98 in a workgroup network.
In my tests, the Win98 system hangs, as some people described in the
links that you gave.

I've asked networking people at Microsoft if it's possible for Win98
to access Vista's shares, and no one has been able to tell me how to
do it. It's officially unsupported.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:57:44 -0500, "MEB" MEB@not@here wrote:
"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
It isn't possible for Win98 to access a computer running Vista. Win98
can access XP. XP can access Win98 and Vista. Vista can access Win98
and XP.

Hey Steve, isn't there a few hacks [which affect VISTA Security though] such
as:

http://forums.techguy.org/networking...in-98-win.html
http://forums.techarena.in/windows-v...ork/768471.htm

I've tried those hacks, which allow Win98 and Vista to use the same
level of network security. However, I've never seen anyone report
success in accessing Vista's shares from Win98 in a workgroup network.
In my tests, the Win98 system hangs, as some people described in the
links that you gave.

I've asked networking people at Microsoft if it's possible for Win98
to access Vista's shares, and no one has been able to tell me how to
do it. It's officially unsupported.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:57:44 -0500, "MEB" MEB@not@here wrote:
"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
It isn't possible for Win98 to access a computer running Vista.
Win98
can access XP. XP can access Win98 and Vista. Vista can access
Win98
and XP.

Hey Steve, isn't there a few hacks [which affect VISTA Security though]
such
as:


http://forums.techguy.org/networking...s-win-98-win.h
tml
http://forums.techarena.in/windows-v...ork/768471.htm

I've tried those hacks, which allow Win98 and Vista to use the same
level of network security. However, I've never seen anyone report
success in accessing Vista's shares from Win98 in a workgroup network.
In my tests, the Win98 system hangs, as some people described in the
links that you gave.

I've asked networking people at Microsoft if it's possible for Win98
to access Vista's shares, and no one has been able to tell me how to
do it. It's officially unsupported.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Right, I completely understand. However, it seems that MOST of what we do
in our personal systems is unsupported.
Perhaps that's why Microsoft is losing its market share to more open
"people supported" OSs. Moreover, this is likely part of WHY Microsoft had
to extend, AGAIN, the manufacturers' ability to install WinXP PRO until the
middle of this year or so.
VISTA as a Microsoft networkable ONLY product was a bad idea. Forcing
NTLMv2 [which has already been shown as flawed and hackable anyway] for
connections shows, once again, that Microsoft's "idea guys and gals" are as
*out of touch* with the wants and needs of the world as Microsoft has been
for the last 10 years or so. Whereas, the other OSs strive for
inter/extra-operability [though Apple needs some work].
Perhaps these 5000 people Microsoft is firing will be the ones that have
helped drive Microsoft into the ground... likely not....

Of course we could also discuss Windows7, and the public's perception ...

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Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government
_______

"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:57:44 -0500, "MEB" MEB@not@here wrote:
"Steve Winograd" wrote in message
It isn't possible for Win98 to access a computer running Vista.
Win98
can access XP. XP can access Win98 and Vista. Vista can access
Win98
and XP.

Hey Steve, isn't there a few hacks [which affect VISTA Security though]
such
as:


http://forums.techguy.org/networking...s-win-98-win.h
tml
http://forums.techarena.in/windows-v...ork/768471.htm

I've tried those hacks, which allow Win98 and Vista to use the same
level of network security. However, I've never seen anyone report
success in accessing Vista's shares from Win98 in a workgroup network.
In my tests, the Win98 system hangs, as some people described in the
links that you gave.

I've asked networking people at Microsoft if it's possible for Win98
to access Vista's shares, and no one has been able to tell me how to
do it. It's officially unsupported.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Right, I completely understand. However, it seems that MOST of what we do
in our personal systems is unsupported.
Perhaps that's why Microsoft is losing its market share to more open
"people supported" OSs. Moreover, this is likely part of WHY Microsoft had
to extend, AGAIN, the manufacturers' ability to install WinXP PRO until the
middle of this year or so.
VISTA as a Microsoft networkable ONLY product was a bad idea. Forcing
NTLMv2 [which has already been shown as flawed and hackable anyway] for
connections shows, once again, that Microsoft's "idea guys and gals" are as
*out of touch* with the wants and needs of the world as Microsoft has been
for the last 10 years or so. Whereas, the other OSs strive for
inter/extra-operability [though Apple needs some work].
Perhaps these 5000 people Microsoft is firing will be the ones that have
helped drive Microsoft into the ground... likely not....

Of course we could also discuss Windows7, and the public's perception ...

--
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MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government
_______