System Resources

You all have been helping with the RAM problesm (Windows 98
SE with 512 MB RAM up from 256). After installation of the
RAM, my system resources were dropping drastically w/o
having a large number of programs open and would not
return to normal after closing the programs. I had to
reboot to get them up to an acceptable level and to keep
the comuputer function properly. I followed the suggestions
on the RAM, but I am still having problems, crashing,
hanging up, etc. This morning I had I Word document and 1
Netscape window open and was down to 7% resources.
Everything was moving slow and I was unable to get it back
up until I rebooted. Any addtional suggestions for me? The
technician was supposed to call me back on Monday and I
have not heard from him so I guess he doesn't have any
ideas either. Since I've already paid him over $400.00, I
guess he is done.
Thanks again.
April

This is from a previous post?
Why did you see a need to increase RAM?
I beleive CPU speed is a factor also.
Also the MB's capability to process data back and forth
between the RAM,CPU and HD.
When you got the RAM upgrade was it in form of an
additional 256 RAM stick or was the 256 replaced with one
512? If there are more then one RAM stick? Are they of the
same maker?
It would be best to have 512MB set up with two 256 MB
sticks purchased at the same time from the same place made
by the same manufacturer.
-----Original Message-----
You all have been helping with the RAM problesm (Windows
98
SE with 512 MB RAM up from 256). After installation of the
RAM, my system resources were dropping drastically w/o
having a large number of programs open and would not
return to normal after closing the programs. I had to
reboot to get them up to an acceptable level and to keep
the comuputer function properly. I followed the
suggestions
on the RAM, but I am still having problems, crashing,
hanging up, etc. This morning I had I Word document and 1
Netscape window open and was down to 7% resources.
Everything was moving slow and I was unable to get it back
up until I rebooted. Any addtional suggestions for me? The
technician was supposed to call me back on Monday and I
have not heard from him so I guess he doesn't have any
ideas either. Since I've already paid him over $400.00, I
guess he is done.
Thanks again.
April
.

If you are paying someone $400 to fix your problem, he
probably takes you for a sucker and is prolonging the
problem to make more money.

The RAM you added can't be responsible for low system
resources because the system resources are two blocks
within the conventional RAM area. The system resources
wiuldn't work at all if that area of RAM were faulty,
which is highly unlikely anyway.

Have you used a free diagnostic utility such as MemTest
from http://www.memtest86.com/ to test the RAM?

It would have been cheaper just to format your system and
reinstall Windows.

See these articles:

System Resources FAQ - http://www.aumha.org/a/resource.htm
System Resource Issues -
http://content.techweb.com/winmag/co...plorer/2000/14.
htm

Eric,
http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/
http://www.sharedbirthday.co.uk/


-----Original Message-----
You all have been helping with the RAM problesm (Windows
98
SE with 512 MB RAM up from 256). After installation of the
RAM, my system resources were dropping drastically w/o
having a large number of programs open and would not
return to normal after closing the programs. I had to
reboot to get them up to an acceptable level and to keep
the comuputer function properly. I followed the
suggestions
on the RAM, but I am still having problems, crashing,
hanging up, etc. This morning I had I Word document and 1
Netscape window open and was down to 7% resources.
Everything was moving slow and I was unable to get it back
up until I rebooted. Any addtional suggestions for me? The
technician was supposed to call me back on Monday and I
have not heard from him so I guess he doesn't have any
ideas either. Since I've already paid him over $400.00, I
guess he is done.
Thanks again.
April
.

April,
Show us *exactly* what it says under the [vcache] heading in System.ini, for the
maxfilecache setting.

Low resources is not related to the amount of RAM installed.

Please do the following:
Click StartRun, type MSINFO32 and click OK.
In the left pane of the System Information window, click the + sign to expand the
"Software Environment" category.
In the left pane, click to select "Startup Programs"....they will appear in a list
on the right.
Press Ctrl-A on the keyboard, which will highlight everything in the list on the
right.
Press Ctrl-C to copy the list to the 'clipboard'.
Open a reply to this message, click in the body of the message and press Ctrl-V to
paste the list from the clipboard to the message, and post back to this thread.

Also, press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring up the Task Manager and post back with what is
listed there when you experience the problem.

Please tell me exactly what the "tech" did to the machine, for his absurd charge of
$400.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"April" wrote in message
...
You all have been helping with the RAM problesm (Windows 98
SE with 512 MB RAM up from 256). After installation of the
RAM, my system resources were dropping drastically w/o
having a large number of programs open and would not
return to normal after closing the programs. I had to
reboot to get them up to an acceptable level and to keep
the comuputer function properly. I followed the suggestions
on the RAM, but I am still having problems, crashing,
hanging up, etc. This morning I had I Word document and 1
Netscape window open and was down to 7% resources.
Everything was moving slow and I was unable to get it back
up until I rebooted. Any addtional suggestions for me? The
technician was supposed to call me back on Monday and I
have not heard from him so I guess he doesn't have any
ideas either. Since I've already paid him over $400.00, I
guess he is done.
Thanks again.
April

Thanks Eric. No, not a sucker-just need my machine fixed as
a use it for work. Yes. Used memtest. 2 sticks of RAM.
Under My Computer, Properties, it says 511 MB RAM. I
reformatted the system and reinstalled Windows 98 SE before
I took it to the computer technician. I was not having
systems resources errors until the 256 MB of additional RAM
was installed. The reason I took it to the technician is I
was having a windows protection error when I would boot up
in the a.m. as well as a Zip Drive that would not work, and
I needed a network card installed. The need for the
additional RAM was in hopes it would speed up my machine
somewhat when using Dreamweaver and Adobe Photoshop. Thank
you. April
-----Original Message-----
If you are paying someone $400 to fix your problem, he
probably takes you for a sucker and is prolonging the
problem to make more money.

The RAM you added can't be responsible for low system
resources because the system resources are two blocks
within the conventional RAM area. The system resources
wiuldn't work at all if that area of RAM were faulty,
which is highly unlikely anyway.

Have you used a free diagnostic utility such as MemTest
from http://www.memtest86.com/ to test the RAM?

It would have been cheaper just to format your system and
reinstall Windows.

See these articles:

System Resources FAQ - http://www.aumha.org/a/resource.htm
System Resource Issues -
http://content.techweb.com/winmag/co...plorer/2000/14.
htm

Eric,
http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/
http://www.sharedbirthday.co.uk/


-----Original Message-----
You all have been helping with the RAM problesm (Windows
98
SE with 512 MB RAM up from 256). After installation of the
RAM, my system resources were dropping drastically w/o
having a large number of programs open and would not
return to normal after closing the programs. I had to
reboot to get them up to an acceptable level and to keep
the comuputer function properly. I followed the
suggestions
on the RAM, but I am still having problems, crashing,
hanging up, etc. This morning I had I Word document and 1
Netscape window open and was down to 7% resources.
Everything was moving slow and I was unable to get it back
up until I rebooted. Any addtional suggestions for me? The
technician was supposed to call me back on Monday and I
have not heard from him so I guess he doesn't have any
ideas either. Since I've already paid him over $400.00, I
guess he is done.
Thanks again.
April
.

.

Yes. Alll the responses were very helpful but did not solve
my problem. RAM installed was an addtional stick. I don't
know if they are the same kind or not. Had a technician put
it in.
Thank you. April
-----Original Message-----
This is from a previous post?
Why did you see a need to increase RAM?
I beleive CPU speed is a factor also.
Also the MB's capability to process data back and forth
between the RAM,CPU and HD.
When you got the RAM upgrade was it in form of an
additional 256 RAM stick or was the 256 replaced with one
512? If there are more then one RAM stick? Are they of the
same maker?
It would be best to have 512MB set up with two 256 MB
sticks purchased at the same time from the same place made
by the same manufacturer.
-----Original Message-----
You all have been helping with the RAM problesm (Windows
98
SE with 512 MB RAM up from 256). After installation of the
RAM, my system resources were dropping drastically w/o
having a large number of programs open and would not
return to normal after closing the programs. I had to
reboot to get them up to an acceptable level and to keep
the comuputer function properly. I followed the
suggestions
on the RAM, but I am still having problems, crashing,
hanging up, etc. This morning I had I Word document and 1
Netscape window open and was down to 7% resources.
Everything was moving slow and I was unable to get it back
up until I rebooted. Any addtional suggestions for me? The
technician was supposed to call me back on Monday and I
have not heard from him so I guess he doesn't have any
ideas either. Since I've already paid him over $400.00, I
guess he is done.
Thanks again.
April
.

.

Under vcache it says MAXFILECACHE=358000.
Start-up programs include:
HPAiODevice Startup Group "C:\Program
Files\Hewlett-Packard\hp officejet v
series\bin\hpodev07.exe" -DeviceID 1086956995
Hewlett-Packard Recorder Startup Group "C:\Program
Files\Hewlett-Packard\hp officejet v series\FRU\Remind32.exe"
ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe
/autorun
SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
NAV DefAlert Registry (Machine Run)
C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\DEFALERT.EXE
Norton Auto-Protect Registry (Machine Run)
C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\NAVAPW32.EXE /LOADQUIET
HPAIO_PrintFolderMgr Registry (Machine Run)
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\hpoopm07.exe
Norton eMail Protect Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRAM
FILES\NORTON ANTIVIRUS\POProxy.exe
TaskMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
ADUserMon Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program
Files\Iomega\AutoDisk\ADUserMon.exe
Iomega Drive Icons Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program
Files\Iomega\DriveIcons\ImgIcon.exe
Deskup Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program
Files\Iomega\DriveIcons\deskup.exe /IMGSTART
SchedulingAgent Registry (Machine Service) mstask.exe
LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
ADService Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
Files\Iomega\AutoDisk\ADService.exe
I have selective startup and I choose the programs to
startup when the machine starts up.
Under System Resources:
Memory: 511 MB RAM
System Resources: 0% free very low-see below.
File System: 32-bit.
Virtual Memory: 32-bit.
Disk Compression: Not installed.
PC cards: No PC card sockets are installed.
Your system is configured for optimal performance.

The technician did the following:
1. Wiped the system clean (again) and reinstalled Windows
98SE.
2. Installed new Zip drive, installed RAM-256 MB stick,
installed network card.
3. Tried to determine reason for windows protection error.

Also, I did not ever have a "systems resources low error"
before the technician worked on it. I am using the same
programs, doing the same type of computing, etc.
This is why I have assumed the two (additional RAM
installation and system resources errors) were related.
Thank you.
April

-----Original Message-----
April,
Show us *exactly* what it says under the [vcache] heading
in System.ini, for the
maxfilecache setting.

Low resources is not related to the amount of RAM installed.

Please do the following:
Click StartRun, type MSINFO32 and click OK.
In the left pane of the System Information window, click
the + sign to expand the
"Software Environment" category.
In the left pane, click to select "Startup
Programs"....they will appear in a list
on the right.
Press Ctrl-A on the keyboard, which will highlight
everything in the list on the
right.
Press Ctrl-C to copy the list to the 'clipboard'.
Open a reply to this message, click in the body of the
message and press Ctrl-V to
paste the list from the clipboard to the message, and post
back to this thread.

Also, press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring up the Task Manager
and post back with what is
listed there when you experience the problem.

Please tell me exactly what the "tech" did to the machine,
for his absurd charge of
$400.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"April" wrote in message
...
You all have been helping with the RAM problesm (Windows 98
SE with 512 MB RAM up from 256). After installation of the
RAM, my system resources were dropping drastically w/o
having a large number of programs open and would not
return to normal after closing the programs. I had to
reboot to get them up to an acceptable level and to keep
the comuputer function properly. I followed the suggestions
on the RAM, but I am still having problems, crashing,
hanging up, etc. This morning I had I Word document and 1
Netscape window open and was down to 7% resources.
Everything was moving slow and I was unable to get it back
up until I rebooted. Any addtional suggestions for me? The
technician was supposed to call me back on Monday and I
have not heard from him so I guess he doesn't have any
ideas either. Since I've already paid him over $400.00, I
guess he is done.
Thanks again.
April

.

"had a technician..." well not a very good one, take it back and have him fix
it properly Ram sticks come in different sizes speeds and configurations which
your motherboard may or may not recognize and may or may not be compatible
with the existing ram. If you dont get an answer better business bureau,

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wrote in message
...
| Yes. Alll the responses were very helpful but did not solve
| my problem. RAM installed was an addtional stick. I don't
| know if they are the same kind or not. Had a technician put
| it in.
| Thank you. April
| -----Original Message-----
| This is from a previous post?
| Why did you see a need to increase RAM?
| I beleive CPU speed is a factor also.
| Also the MB's capability to process data back and forth
| between the RAM,CPU and HD.
| When you got the RAM upgrade was it in form of an
| additional 256 RAM stick or was the 256 replaced with one
| 512? If there are more then one RAM stick? Are they of the
| same maker?
| It would be best to have 512MB set up with two 256 MB
| sticks purchased at the same time from the same place made
| by the same manufacturer.
| -----Original Message-----
| You all have been helping with the RAM problesm (Windows
| 98
| SE with 512 MB RAM up from 256). After installation of the
| RAM, my system resources were dropping drastically w/o
| having a large number of programs open and would not
| return to normal after closing the programs. I had to
| reboot to get them up to an acceptable level and to keep
| the comuputer function properly. I followed the
| suggestions
| on the RAM, but I am still having problems, crashing,
| hanging up, etc. This morning I had I Word document and 1
| Netscape window open and was down to 7% resources.
| Everything was moving slow and I was unable to get it back
| up until I rebooted. Any addtional suggestions for me? The
| technician was supposed to call me back on Monday and I
| have not heard from him so I guess he doesn't have any
| ideas either. Since I've already paid him over $400.00, I
| guess he is done.
| Thanks again.
| April
| .
|
| .
|

Have a look here for some clues as to what may cause resources to deplete:
http://www.onlinehelp.bc.ca/tips.htm#resources

Are these the same startups that you had running prior to the tech wirking on it?
What items do you have disabled in msconfig startup tab?

I suggest that you re-enable all the items in msconfig startup tab, but do NOT
reboot when prompted. Download Hijack This to a folder *other than* your desktop or
the temp folder, and do a Scan; then save the results in a log file but do not
"fix" anything yet. Also create a Startup list per the instructions in the tutorial
linked below. Copy/paste both logs into a reply here.
The tutorial for using Hijack This and saving the logs, is located he
http://tomcoyote.com/hjt/

Here are more detailed instructions:

Download, unzip, and run Hijack This from one of these locations:
http://computercops.biz/downloads-cat-14.html
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads...HijackThis.exe
Unzip to a folder other than your Desktop or the Temp folder, doubleclick
HijackThis.exe, and hit "Scan".

When the scan is finished, the "Scan" button will change into a "Save Log"
button.
Press that, save the log somewhere you can find it (Desktop, My Documents, or
similar).
Most of what it lists will be harmless or even required, so do NOT fix anything yet.

Copy the log files and paste them into a reply here....you may need to post them
later in a specialised forum, if suspect items are found.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


wrote in message
...
Under vcache it says MAXFILECACHE=358000.
Start-up programs include:
HPAiODevice Startup Group "C:\Program
Files\Hewlett-Packard\hp officejet v
series\bin\hpodev07.exe" -DeviceID 1086956995
Hewlett-Packard Recorder Startup Group "C:\Program
Files\Hewlett-Packard\hp officejet v series\FRU\Remind32.exe"
ScanRegistry Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe
/autorun
SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe
NAV DefAlert Registry (Machine Run)
C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\DEFALERT.EXE
Norton Auto-Protect Registry (Machine Run)
C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\NAVAPW32.EXE /LOADQUIET
HPAIO_PrintFolderMgr Registry (Machine Run)
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\hpoopm07.exe
Norton eMail Protect Registry (Machine Run) C:\PROGRAM
FILES\NORTON ANTIVIRUS\POProxy.exe
TaskMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Run) Rundll32.exe
powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
ADUserMon Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program
Files\Iomega\AutoDisk\ADUserMon.exe
Iomega Drive Icons Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program
Files\Iomega\DriveIcons\ImgIcon.exe
Deskup Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program
Files\Iomega\DriveIcons\deskup.exe /IMGSTART
SchedulingAgent Registry (Machine Service) mstask.exe
LoadPowerProfile Registry (Machine Service) Rundll32.exe
powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
ADService Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program
Files\Iomega\AutoDisk\ADService.exe
I have selective startup and I choose the programs to
startup when the machine starts up.
Under System Resources:
Memory: 511 MB RAM
System Resources: 0% free very low-see below.
File System: 32-bit.
Virtual Memory: 32-bit.
Disk Compression: Not installed.
PC cards: No PC card sockets are installed.
Your system is configured for optimal performance.

The technician did the following:
1. Wiped the system clean (again) and reinstalled Windows
98SE.
2. Installed new Zip drive, installed RAM-256 MB stick,
installed network card.
3. Tried to determine reason for windows protection error.

Also, I did not ever have a "systems resources low error"
before the technician worked on it. I am using the same
programs, doing the same type of computing, etc.
This is why I have assumed the two (additional RAM
installation and system resources errors) were related.
Thank you.
April

-----Original Message-----
April,
Show us *exactly* what it says under the [vcache] heading
in System.ini, for the
maxfilecache setting.

Low resources is not related to the amount of RAM installed.

Please do the following:
Click StartRun, type MSINFO32 and click OK.
In the left pane of the System Information window, click
the + sign to expand the
"Software Environment" category.
In the left pane, click to select "Startup
Programs"....they will appear in a list
on the right.
Press Ctrl-A on the keyboard, which will highlight
everything in the list on the
right.
Press Ctrl-C to copy the list to the 'clipboard'.
Open a reply to this message, click in the body of the
message and press Ctrl-V to
paste the list from the clipboard to the message, and post
back to this thread.

Also, press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring up the Task Manager
and post back with what is
listed there when you experience the problem.

Please tell me exactly what the "tech" did to the machine,
for his absurd charge of
$400.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"April" wrote in message
...
You all have been helping with the RAM problesm (Windows 98
SE with 512 MB RAM up from 256). After installation of the
RAM, my system resources were dropping drastically w/o
having a large number of programs open and would not
return to normal after closing the programs. I had to
reboot to get them up to an acceptable level and to keep
the comuputer function properly. I followed the suggestions
on the RAM, but I am still having problems, crashing,
hanging up, etc. This morning I had I Word document and 1
Netscape window open and was down to 7% resources.
Everything was moving slow and I was unable to get it back
up until I rebooted. Any addtional suggestions for me? The
technician was supposed to call me back on Monday and I
have not heard from him so I guess he doesn't have any
ideas either. Since I've already paid him over $400.00, I
guess he is done.
Thanks again.
April

.