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Heirloom , great to see you... Happy to know you are still interested in my
case... before I go on I want to thank you ,, you are doing research for me. I know how that goes and I appreciate your effort and Matt's ... I was just writing to him explaining the contradiction....but I was in stiches laughing so hard from his opening comment to you... that verbose remark just about killed me..... but I think it killed the message I sent him.... MSN asked me for my password when I clicked send and when I got back the screen showed just portion of Mart's message and none of my reply, so Im not sure if he's gonna get it and Im new here and do not know how to check if, and Im afraid I was again "verbose" L O L , love it., too funny,,, so instead of writing again, in which case it will not have the same essence of the moment, precious moment , he made me laugh good and I needed it...... I am going to answer yours and so of recap what I told him and maybe he can pick up here....anyway you should be informed too and see if you can use it.... contradiction you picked up and as Matt did not mention to me , was a typo without typing.... I have my friend's laptop and Im not used to it , especially that tiny uncontrollable mouse,,, I had to connect my own mouse... anyway it should had read "I don't understand how my pc can't read a: drive" .. I missed the 't... sorry about that but like I told Mart, I want to be clear about the details that brought me to this point of no booting... I really want your help and want to make sure you understand the problem. /...(by the way, I just had another slip and thought I was going to loose you).... Imgonna have to be careful here with this laptop....Gee I wish Mart gets that message... I dont remember ever writing with such heart felt emotion as I laugh all the way to the end... you guys are really nice to do this... OK non-vverbose..... I mentioned to him about going and making the floppy first in booting sequence in the BIOS. Right then I realized I forgot to answer your question about safe mode.. I was trying to get to safe mode and could not.... I did the F8 key, I try the Ctrl key, and I try another one as sugested somewhere I read. Heirloom, my luck, none of those keys work... Im suppose to get the screen where I choose safe mode.... and I can't get pass that Invalid system disk message.... no way around it, under, over just no way.. no with a: not with either cd rom , nothing.. Mart seemed curious about the floppy inside the a: drive, especially since I said don't ask and he did not ask but he told you that he didn't ask and to me that means he wanted to ask so I let him have it.....L O L , in a most verbose way LOL ay ay ay....I sure hope he gets that message........to make it simple, I was going to copy some files to floppy and used the start up disk I had near by.... first I was going to format it but a:drive is defective so no copy files, no format , and stupid me no take out of a:.. after couple of day I forget it's still there and I go on with famous easycleaner exterminator and no need to repeat the rest.... What else... let's see, I wrote to you earlier in the evening and except for the safe mode issue I covered every question you had.... but I did write to Mart in that presumed lost message that as Im writing I've notice I have called "boot disk" the floppy inside a: drive but it was really the start up disk I've made some time ago with the ME make start up disk feature and was not sure if start up disk and boot disk are the same thing... or start up disk, which is made with a floppy is the one I just said you make yourself and boot up disk the one original one that comes with the pc....either way it was the start up floppy all along..... You think I was clear? can you understand my problem.... or what Im saying... I am from PuertoRico and even though I've lived in San Francisco half my life, I cant get rid of my accent, at least have not work on it, and Im afraid it comes loud and clear in my writing.... ah yes and on top of that I talk fast, which drives my fingers crazy when typing and Im not a good or fast typist....so tell me what else you need..... but don't know why I feel you guys having hard time with solution to my little problem... but then again..what am I talking about... I have not read your or Matt's reply yet..... cant wait....Thank you for hearing me out........Hasta la bye bye Heirloom "Heirloom" wrote: Yeah, Mart......I picked up on the contradictions.....that is why I was reaching for more details and questioning whether the OP could still boot into Safe Mode. Having a boot floppy, or actually, not having one, is easily fixable. I have to wonder, also, how he knows the files are missing from the boot floppy, if the A:\ is not functioning. Guess we will just have to wait for a response...........good to hear your face again!! Heirloom, old and on my way to the Dr. "Mart" wrote in message ... Hi HL, it was a long (verbose) post but I read :- .. and do not have a working a: drive to boot from with my startup floppy. and ... my pc has not been able to recognize a: drive for quite a while. but Ricardo 'appears' to contradict himself with :- Do not understand how my pc can read a: drive, yet , here comes "easycleaner" and had no problem picking up those files in the floppy. especially when .. and don't ask how I happened to have my boot up floopy inside a: drive So I won't ask - but I am confused g Mart "Heirloom" wrote in message ... Ricardo, Have you attempted to boot into Safe Mode? It was *my* take that your A:\ is still working, you just boogered the boot floppy. If you have access to the Net from another machine, there are a number of places on the Net that you can download an Me boot disk.....just do a Google search. Is there a 'recovery' feature for deleted files in the 'easy cleaner' app? If so, try it...if it works, never use it again. Heirloom, old and needs more details p.s. in your next post, please include: Did you attempt the XP install? If so, how far did you get? How many HD's and/or virtual drives (partitions) "Mart" wrote in message ... Ricardo, not exactly clear as to what you have and have not got, but to summarise *my* take of your report :- 1) you can't boot your C: drive into WinMe 2) your A: drive isn't functioning. 3) your essential 'boot files' are either missing from your C: drive and/or your floppy start-up disk. (Not quite sure how you know for certain that the 'boot files' are missing from your C: drive if you can't 'see it', apparently) Can you verify the above and then we may be able to make some headway. And, with the cost of a replacement floppy drive being so low, I would suggest you first start by fitting a new one (or at least find out why the old one doesn't work) - you're going to need. Mart "rpmsfpr" wrote in message ... I've been taking care of my pc health without a doctor's diploma. I'm not even a nurse. I've been doing good so far by information I find when I google whatever problem I am trying to solve. Sometimes I get lucky , sometimes takes a while , long while to find the right solution... I wish I knew about this place. I found you guys as I wasresearching my current problem and started to read and read and , boy oh boy, I forgot my problem . I learned more in a couple of thread than all the research I've done in my pc's life. Unfortunatelly, I do have a problem and desperation is leading my life. I deleted boot files by accident and do not have a working a: drive to boot from with my startup floppy. I am happy with ME but all this about not getting support anymore has been bothering me. So I started reading up on how to upgrade to XP since I am going to perform the OS change surgery myself and did not want to make any mistake... so much for that...... mistake happened before surgery and don't ask how I happened to have my boot up floopy inside a: drive and while doing some file cleaning as part of my preparing for upgrade I deleted the essentials boot files.. I was trying out this "easycleaner" application and one of it's features deletes duplicate files and you guessed it, boot up floppy in a: drive and, of course , the originals in c: drive , "easycleaner" opted for the ones in c: and now I have no boot up files on c: and my pc has not been able to recognize a: drive for quite a while so I am DOOMED /// or am I? I am confident someone here will bring me back. Do not understand how my pc can read a: drive, yet , here comes "easycleaner" and had no problem picking up those files in the floppy. Sorry to make long story, .... please help me . don't worry about making long story... I follow word by word if you give me hope... I 've clumpsy before but now I've really done it. I got to this newsgroup while reading about some flash drive booting approach but Im afraid it was little to hard to understand and....... neveer mind , just tell me what to do , Por Favor. Ricardo |
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Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and Heirloom's
messages.. I hope I;m doing this right... I came back to see if anything goes and noticed this message did not have my reply.. I m sure I answered it... but looks like I missed last paragraph you suggest buy new a: drive.. I thought about replacing but ok.. I get new one make the switch,,, now what? Screen still going to show Invalid system disk so how do I know it installed?.. dont I have to go thr the plug and play thing?? I do need windows for that, don't I?? Any way you've made point clear it is nessa, to have one, no other way....I will try that and see if I get lucky... can I use an a: drive from another old computer I have? Im going to keep checking all this entries and see if I find my reply to this.. I know I answered.. you know.. in a "verbose" manner.. I laugh so good when I saw that ... gracias "Mart" wrote: Ricardo, not exactly clear as to what you have and have not got, but to summarise *my* take of your report :- 1) you can't boot your C: drive into WinMe 2) your A: drive isn't functioning. 3) your essential 'boot files' are either missing from your C: drive and/or your floppy start-up disk. (Not quite sure how you know for certain that the 'boot files' are missing from your C: drive if you can't 'see it', apparently) Can you verify the above and then we may be able to make some headway. And, with the cost of a replacement floppy drive being so low, I would suggest you first start by fitting a new one (or at least find out why the old one doesn't work) - you're going to need. Mart "rpmsfpr" wrote in message ... I've been taking care of my pc health without a doctor's diploma. I'm not even a nurse. I've been doing good so far by information I find when I google whatever problem I am trying to solve. Sometimes I get lucky , sometimes takes a while , long while to find the right solution... I wish I knew about this place. I found you guys as I wasresearching my current problem and started to read and read and , boy oh boy, I forgot my problem . I learned more in a couple of thread than all the research I've done in my pc's life. Unfortunatelly, I do have a problem and desperation is leading my life. I deleted boot files by accident and do not have a working a: drive to boot from with my startup floppy. I am happy with ME but all this about not getting support anymore has been bothering me. So I started reading up on how to upgrade to XP since I am going to perform the OS change surgery myself and did not want to make any mistake... so much for that...... mistake happened before surgery and don't ask how I happened to have my boot up floopy inside a: drive and while doing some file cleaning as part of my preparing for upgrade I deleted the essentials boot files.. I was trying out this "easycleaner" application and one of it's features deletes duplicate files and you guessed it, boot up floppy in a: drive and, of course , the originals in c: drive , "easycleaner" opted for the ones in c: and now I have no boot up files on c: and my pc has not been able to recognize a: drive for quite a while so I am DOOMED /// or am I? I am confident someone here will bring me back. Do not understand how my pc can read a: drive, yet , here comes "easycleaner" and had no problem picking up those files in the floppy. Sorry to make long story, .... please help me . don't worry about making long story... I follow word by word if you give me hope... I 've clumpsy before but now I've really done it. I got to this newsgroup while reading about some flash drive booting approach but Im afraid it was little to hard to understand and....... neveer mind , just tell me what to do , Por Favor. Ricardo |
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Hey Mart... there you are.... so this is how this works.... I just answered
your first message again because I thought my reply got lost but now I see .... I was wandering why the nicknames were zigzaging that way.. but yes I see..... howevere I've made a point not to be verbose... you are an angel... thank you.... ok here it is.. No floppy in a: No disc in either cd rom Booted from cold...........///Boot? Is that what boot means?? To turn machine on? I thought it was when machine, once turned on goes into all those sentences and numbers that go real fast and then into windows.... but maybe I misunderstand you.. But doing what you asked.... I m getting just like I said before "Invalid system disk Replace the disk, and then press any key" and inmediately right under the message the blinking cursor that was fast reply of yours "Mart" wrote: OK Ricardo, let's take one step at a time and keep it very simple. 1) Make sure that there isn't a floppy disk in your A: drive. 2) Make sure that there isn't a CD in either your CD-ROM or DVD drive. 3) Boot your machine from cold (i.e from power-off) Exactly what error message do you see on your screen? Mart "rpmsfpr" wrote Hola Mart, Thank you for dropping by.. .. You know, funny you ask, 'cause ..... snipped |
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Mart I just wrote and got an error message saying problem and message not
deliver , so I try again No floppy on A: checked No disk on either cd rom checked Boot from cold done message: Invalid system disk Replace the disk, and then press any key and right under the message the blinking cursor Before I came for help I inserted floppy I downloaded from Bootdisk.com and hit the enter key and nothing happened... then I restarted the pc and message showed up again. "Mart" wrote: OK Ricardo, let's take one step at a time and keep it very simple. 1) Make sure that there isn't a floppy disk in your A: drive. 2) Make sure that there isn't a CD in either your CD-ROM or DVD drive. 3) Boot your machine from cold (i.e from power-off) Exactly what error message do you see on your screen? Mart "rpmsfpr" wrote Hola Mart, Thank you for dropping by.. .. You know, funny you ask, 'cause ..... snipped |
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Ricardo, very interesting though your life story may be to some, long
rambling replies are not going to help solve your problem. You didn't directly answer my previous question - Exactly what error message do you see on your screen? However, if I understand your 'verbose messages' elsewhere in this thread, it would appear that your hard drive is badly affected and therefore you MUST HAVE a working A: drive AND a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk before we can proceed. If you haven't got a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk, you can download a WinMe bootdisk making utility (Windows Me OEM) from http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm - (**But be sure to read the instructions on how to actually create the bootdisk**.) Don't just copy the download to a floppy disk, you need to run the downloaded file on your computer (any computer, with an A:drive) for it to actually create the Startup (floppy) disk. Good luck Mart "rpmsfpr" wrote :- Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and Heirloom's messages.. snipped in the interests of brevity |
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Hi Ricardo,
Thank you for your response and we welcome you to the Win ME newsgroup. As Mart and Heirloom had asked you, please respond to them in a concise and clear manner, i.e., keep your issues straight to the point. In other words, "one issue at-a-time." Keep in mind that when you have different issues, these should be addressed one-at-time. Yes, by that I mean, separate threads. People in this newsgroup are always willing to help anybody, as long as the issue(s) are succinct. Should you need assistance in another issue(s), pleasse do so on a separate post/thread. Best regards. Ed "rpmsfpr" wrote in message ... Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and Heirloom's messages.. I hope I;m doing this right... I came back to see if anything goes and noticed this message did not have my reply.. I m sure I answered it... but looks like I missed last paragraph you suggest buy new a: drive.. I thought about replacing but ok.. I get new one make the switch,,, now what? Screen still going to show Invalid system disk so how do I know it installed?.. dont I have to go thr the plug and play thing?? I do need windows for that, don't I?? Any way you've made point clear it is nessa, to have one, no other way....I will try that and see if I get lucky... can I use an a: drive from another old computer I have? Im going to keep checking all this entries and see if I find my reply to this.. I know I answered.. you know.. in a "verbose" manner.. I laugh so good when I saw that ... gracias "Mart" wrote: Ricardo, not exactly clear as to what you have and have not got, but to summarise *my* take of your report :- 1) you can't boot your C: drive into WinMe 2) your A: drive isn't functioning. 3) your essential 'boot files' are either missing from your C: drive and/or your floppy start-up disk. (Not quite sure how you know for certain that the 'boot files' are missing from your C: drive if you can't 'see it', apparently) Can you verify the above and then we may be able to make some headway. And, with the cost of a replacement floppy drive being so low, I would suggest you first start by fitting a new one (or at least find out why the old one doesn't work) - you're going to need. Mart "rpmsfpr" wrote in message ... I've been taking care of my pc health without a doctor's diploma. I'm not even a nurse. I've been doing good so far by information I find when I google whatever problem I am trying to solve. Sometimes I get lucky , sometimes takes a while , long while to find the right solution... I wish I knew about this place. I found you guys as I wasresearching my current problem and started to read and read and , boy oh boy, I forgot my problem . I learned more in a couple of thread than all the research I've done in my pc's life. Unfortunatelly, I do have a problem and desperation is leading my life. I deleted boot files by accident and do not have a working a: drive to boot from with my startup floppy. I am happy with ME but all this about not getting support anymore has been bothering me. So I started reading up on how to upgrade to XP since I am going to perform the OS change surgery myself and did not want to make any mistake... so much for that...... mistake happened before surgery and don't ask how I happened to have my boot up floopy inside a: drive and while doing some file cleaning as part of my preparing for upgrade I deleted the essentials boot files.. I was trying out this "easycleaner" application and one of it's features deletes duplicate files and you guessed it, boot up floppy in a: drive and, of course , the originals in c: drive , "easycleaner" opted for the ones in c: and now I have no boot up files on c: and my pc has not been able to recognize a: drive for quite a while so I am DOOMED /// or am I? I am confident someone here will bring me back. Do not understand how my pc can read a: drive, yet , here comes "easycleaner" and had no problem picking up those files in the floppy. Sorry to make long story, .... please help me . don't worry about making long story... I follow word by word if you give me hope... I 've clumpsy before but now I've really done it. I got to this newsgroup while reading about some flash drive booting approach but Im afraid it was little to hard to understand and....... neveer mind , just tell me what to do , Por Favor. Ricardo |
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"Ed Meza" wrote in message ink.net... Hi Ricardo, Thank you for your response and we welcome you to the Win ME newsgroup. As Mart and Heirloom had asked you, please respond to them in a concise and clear manner, i.e., keep your issues straight to the point. In other words, "one issue at-a-time." Keep in mind that when you have different issues, these should be addressed one-at-time. Yes, by that I mean, separate threads. People in this newsgroup are always willing to help anybody, as long as the issue(s) are succinct. Should you need assistance in another issue(s), pleasse do so on a separate post/thread. Best regards. Ed "rpmsfpr" wrote in message ... Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and Heirloom's messages.. I hope I;m doing this right... I came back to see if anything goes and noticed this message did not have my reply.. I m sure I answered it... but looks like I missed last paragraph you suggest buy new a: drive.. I thought about replacing but ok.. I get new one make the switch,,, now what? Screen still going to show Invalid system disk so how do I know it installed?.. dont I have to go thr the plug and play thing?? I do need windows for that, don't I?? Any way you've made point clear it is nessa, to have one, no other way....I will try that and see if I get lucky... can I use an a: drive from another old computer I have? Im going to keep checking all this entries and see if I find my reply to this.. I know I answered.. you know.. in a "verbose" manner.. I laugh so good when I saw that ... gracias "Mart" wrote: Ricardo, not exactly clear as to what you have and have not got, but to summarise *my* take of your report :- 1) you can't boot your C: drive into WinMe 2) your A: drive isn't functioning. 3) your essential 'boot files' are either missing from your C: drive and/or your floppy start-up disk. (Not quite sure how you know for certain that the 'boot files' are missing from your C: drive if you can't 'see it', apparently) Can you verify the above and then we may be able to make some headway. And, with the cost of a replacement floppy drive being so low, I would suggest you first start by fitting a new one (or at least find out why the old one doesn't work) - you're going to need. Mart "rpmsfpr" wrote in message ... I've been taking care of my pc health without a doctor's diploma. I'm not even a nurse. I've been doing good so far by information I find when I google whatever problem I am trying to solve. Sometimes I get lucky , sometimes takes a while , long while to find the right solution... I wish I knew about this place. I found you guys as I wasresearching my current problem and started to read and read and , boy oh boy, I forgot my problem . I learned more in a couple of thread than all the research I've done in my pc's life. Unfortunatelly, I do have a problem and desperation is leading my life. I deleted boot files by accident and do not have a working a: drive to boot from with my startup floppy. I am happy with ME but all this about not getting support anymore has been bothering me. So I started reading up on how to upgrade to XP since I am going to perform the OS change surgery myself and did not want to make any mistake... so much for that...... mistake happened before surgery and don't ask how I happened to have my boot up floopy inside a: drive and while doing some file cleaning as part of my preparing for upgrade I deleted the essentials boot files.. I was trying out this "easycleaner" application and one of it's features deletes duplicate files and you guessed it, boot up floppy in a: drive and, of course , the originals in c: drive , "easycleaner" opted for the ones in c: and now I have no boot up files on c: and my pc has not been able to recognize a: drive for quite a while so I am DOOMED /// or am I? I am confident someone here will bring me back. Do not understand how my pc can read a: drive, yet , here comes "easycleaner" and had no problem picking up those files in the floppy. Sorry to make long story, .... please help me . don't worry about making long story... I follow word by word if you give me hope... I 've clumpsy before but now I've really done it. I got to this newsgroup while reading about some flash drive booting approach but Im afraid it was little to hard to understand and....... neveer mind , just tell me what to do , Por Favor. Ricardo |
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Ricardo,
Flip your switch from 78 back to 33 1/3.........good........now, as Mart said, let's tackle these items one-at-a-time until we get you back up and running. It will expedite matters if you keep your responses clear and concise regarding requested information. Now, as Mart requested.... download and prepare a valid EBD, Emergency Boot Disk, and let us know when you have that in hand. Heirloom, old and wet with anticipation "Mart" wrote in message ... Ricardo, very interesting though your life story may be to some, long rambling replies are not going to help solve your problem. You didn't directly answer my previous question - Exactly what error message do you see on your screen? However, if I understand your 'verbose messages' elsewhere in this thread, it would appear that your hard drive is badly affected and therefore you MUST HAVE a working A: drive AND a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk before we can proceed. If you haven't got a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk, you can download a WinMe bootdisk making utility (Windows Me OEM) from http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm - (**But be sure to read the instructions on how to actually create the bootdisk**.) Don't just copy the download to a floppy disk, you need to run the downloaded file on your computer (any computer, with an A:drive) for it to actually create the Startup (floppy) disk. Good luck Mart "rpmsfpr" wrote :- Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and Heirloom's messages.. snipped in the interests of brevity |
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Im sorry Mart. I'll stick to the problem.
Indeed, something wrong with hard drive, but before this mess happened and hard drive was ok, I was not able to access neither floppy a: drive nor dvd cd-rom, only my cd burner which I have replaced with a dvd burner and was working ok 'til now. I did download boot up floppy from bootdisk.com and inserted it when pc asked me to "Replace invalid disk and press any key" and nothing happened.. You say I'm suppose to run the floppy to actually create bootdisk... Im afraid I do not understand.. I downloaded file from bootdisk.com directly into a floppy disk using my friend's laptop. Is that not creating a boot disk? "Mart" wrote: Ricardo, very interesting though your life story may be to some, long rambling replies are not going to help solve your problem. You didn't directly answer my previous question - Exactly what error message do you see on your screen? However, if I understand your 'verbose messages' elsewhere in this thread, it would appear that your hard drive is badly affected and therefore you MUST HAVE a working A: drive AND a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk before we can proceed. If you haven't got a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk, you can download a WinMe bootdisk making utility (Windows Me OEM) from http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm - (**But be sure to read the instructions on how to actually create the bootdisk**.) Don't just copy the download to a floppy disk, you need to run the downloaded file on your computer (any computer, with an A:drive) for it to actually create the Startup (floppy) disk. Good luck Mart "rpmsfpr" wrote :- Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and Heirloom's messages.. snipped in the interests of brevity |
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I apologize to you too Heirloom.
I downloaded from bootdisk.com directly into a floppy the file that said "Windows ME OEM. I notice the "Mirror1" "2" "3" and the one under which says "Custom, no ramdrive"...... did I download the wrong one? "Heirloom" wrote: Ricardo, Flip your switch from 78 back to 33 1/3.........good........now, as Mart said, let's tackle these items one-at-a-time until we get you back up and running. It will expedite matters if you keep your responses clear and concise regarding requested information. Now, as Mart requested.... download and prepare a valid EBD, Emergency Boot Disk, and let us know when you have that in hand. Heirloom, old and wet with anticipation "Mart" wrote in message ... Ricardo, very interesting though your life story may be to some, long rambling replies are not going to help solve your problem. You didn't directly answer my previous question - Exactly what error message do you see on your screen? However, if I understand your 'verbose messages' elsewhere in this thread, it would appear that your hard drive is badly affected and therefore you MUST HAVE a working A: drive AND a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk before we can proceed. If you haven't got a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk, you can download a WinMe bootdisk making utility (Windows Me OEM) from http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm - (**But be sure to read the instructions on how to actually create the bootdisk**.) Don't just copy the download to a floppy disk, you need to run the downloaded file on your computer (any computer, with an A:drive) for it to actually create the Startup (floppy) disk. Good luck Mart "rpmsfpr" wrote :- Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and Heirloom's messages.. snipped in the interests of brevity |
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