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No, it's a desktop that has one of those big CPUs that needs a specific
motherboard, motherboards that aren't made anymore. I'll never buy another HP. Alias "Noel Paton" wrote : "Athlon 800 processor made specifically for HP"?? : All links I can find for such beast imply that that is a laptop : configuration - which would imply further that replacing the motherboard is : not really a viable option, although replacing the laptop would be!G : : -- : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's : : "Alias" wrote in message : ... : I'd have to change the AMD Athlon 800 processor made specifically for HP : and : find the drivers for the old video card and audio card. Nah, it's humming : they way it is and Firefox rocks. To give you an example, I use : addfreestats.com as a counter for one of my web sites. When I check my : stats : with IE, I always -- even with SP2 -- get a pop-under advert. With : Firefox, : I don't and the tabbed browsing is great. : : Alias : : "Noel Paton" wrote : : : You can always change the motherboard - funds allowing, of course! : : : : -- : : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to : NG's : : : : "Alias" wrote in message : : ... : : : : "Noel Paton" wrote : : : : : So the site is different - SO WHAT? : : : : : : Yes, the IE/OE is different - because XP is capable of things that : Win : : 9x : : : system are not! : : : you can't have it both ways - living with a past-life OS, and with a : : : frontline browser just ain't possible. : : : At some stage you have to make a decision - upgrade the OS, or live : in : : the : : : past (although often the decision is made for you, by the simple : fact : of : : : available funds, unfortunately) : : : : : : : : : -- : : : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : : : Actually, the decision was made for me by HP's motherboard. The most I : can : : do is Me. No problem, though, I have downloaded Firefox for that box : ;-) : : In : : fact, I use Firefox on my XP Pro machine too. : : : : Alias : : : : : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : : : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : : : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : : : : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to : : NG's : : : : : : "Alias" wrote in message : : : ... : : : : : : "Noel Paton" wrote : : : : : : : That's not a change of heart - Windows Update have always been : : possible : : : for : : : : IE6! : : : : : : Yeah, but the IE/OE6 you get with XP SP2 is different than the one : you : : get : : : with Windows Me. The Windows Update web site is different too. : : : : : : Alias : : : : : : : Where you may be confusing things is that they had a change of : heart : : for : : : the : : : : OS's involved (and that was around 6 months ago, if not more) : : : : : : : : I suggest that you go to the source, and learn a little about : the : : : product : : : : lifecycle that MS professes. : : : : : : : : http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : -- : : : : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : : : : : : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : : : : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : : : : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : : : : : : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post : messages : to : : : NG's : : : : : : : : "John John" wrote in message : : : : ... : : : : Well apparently MS has had a change of heart... sort of... : : : : : : : : Microsoft says IE updates possible : : : : : : : : : : http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+I...op&tag=nl.e703 : : : : : : : : Enhance Your Web Experience with Internet Explorer Add-ons : : : : http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/addon/default.mspx : : : : : : : : John : : : : : : : : Noel Paton wrote: : : : : The GDI vulnerability is nothing to do with IE. : : : : : : : : As I understand it, development of IE in existing platforms : : (apart : : : from : : : : XP) is halted, yes - but security fixes are still being : posted, : : and : : : it's : : : : my belief that at least some of the stuff in SP2 may be : released : : for : : : : other platforms (a lot is just not portable). : : : : : : : : Besides which - what's the point in a hardened front-end if : the : : : back-end : : : : is open to everything (where anything running has total : control : : of : : : the : : : : system, as in Win9x). There's an awful lot of people still : going : : to : : : get : : : : infested by malware simply because they click on something : they : : don't : : : : understand, and install the stuff themselves! : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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I suspect that it's just an early version of the chip - before it got
downsized. There's always a problem getting hold of older motherboards - but there maybe other solutions.... What's the actual motherboard you're using? have you checked for a BIOS update? - these will occasionally give access to larger RAM sticks or HD's than the originals. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Alias" wrote in message ... No, it's a desktop that has one of those big CPUs that needs a specific motherboard, motherboards that aren't made anymore. I'll never buy another HP. Alias "Noel Paton" wrote : "Athlon 800 processor made specifically for HP"?? : All links I can find for such beast imply that that is a laptop : configuration - which would imply further that replacing the motherboard is : not really a viable option, although replacing the laptop would be!G : : -- : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's : : "Alias" wrote in message : ... : I'd have to change the AMD Athlon 800 processor made specifically for HP : and : find the drivers for the old video card and audio card. Nah, it's humming : they way it is and Firefox rocks. To give you an example, I use : addfreestats.com as a counter for one of my web sites. When I check my : stats : with IE, I always -- even with SP2 -- get a pop-under advert. With : Firefox, : I don't and the tabbed browsing is great. : : Alias : : "Noel Paton" wrote : : : You can always change the motherboard - funds allowing, of course! : : : : -- : : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to : NG's : : : : "Alias" wrote in message : : ... : : : : "Noel Paton" wrote : : : : : So the site is different - SO WHAT? : : : : : : Yes, the IE/OE is different - because XP is capable of things that : Win : : 9x : : : system are not! : : : you can't have it both ways - living with a past-life OS, and with a : : : frontline browser just ain't possible. : : : At some stage you have to make a decision - upgrade the OS, or live : in : : the : : : past (although often the decision is made for you, by the simple : fact : of : : : available funds, unfortunately) : : : : : : : : : -- : : : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : : : Actually, the decision was made for me by HP's motherboard. The most I : can : : do is Me. No problem, though, I have downloaded Firefox for that box : ;-) : : In : : fact, I use Firefox on my XP Pro machine too. : : : : Alias : : : : : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : : : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : : : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : : : : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to : : NG's : : : : : : "Alias" wrote in message : : : ... : : : : : : "Noel Paton" wrote : : : : : : : That's not a change of heart - Windows Update have always been : : possible : : : for : : : : IE6! : : : : : : Yeah, but the IE/OE6 you get with XP SP2 is different than the one : you : : get : : : with Windows Me. The Windows Update web site is different too. : : : : : : Alias : : : : : : : Where you may be confusing things is that they had a change of : heart : : for : : : the : : : : OS's involved (and that was around 6 months ago, if not more) : : : : : : : : I suggest that you go to the source, and learn a little about : the : : : product : : : : lifecycle that MS professes. : : : : : : : : http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : -- : : : : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : : : : : : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : : : : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : : : : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : : : : : : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post : messages : to : : : NG's : : : : : : : : "John John" wrote in message : : : : ... : : : : Well apparently MS has had a change of heart... sort of... : : : : : : : : Microsoft says IE updates possible : : : : : : : : : : http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+I...op&tag=nl.e703 : : : : : : : : Enhance Your Web Experience with Internet Explorer Add-ons : : : : http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/addon/default.mspx : : : : : : : : John : : : : : : : : Noel Paton wrote: : : : : The GDI vulnerability is nothing to do with IE. : : : : : : : : As I understand it, development of IE in existing platforms : : (apart : : : from : : : : XP) is halted, yes - but security fixes are still being : posted, : : and : : : it's : : : : my belief that at least some of the stuff in SP2 may be : released : : for : : : : other platforms (a lot is just not portable). : : : : : : : : Besides which - what's the point in a hardened front-end if : the : : : back-end : : : : is open to everything (where anything running has total : control : : of : : : the : : : : system, as in Win9x). There's an awful lot of people still : going : : to : : : get : : : : infested by malware simply because they click on something : they : : don't : : : : understand, and install the stuff themselves! : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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I've updated the BIOS already. Now the splash screen says "invent". Heh. No,
the processor is one of those big clunky kind that you have to screw to the board. It's just a test machine and a back up machine now. Alias "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... :I suspect that it's just an early version of the chip - before it got : downsized. There's always a problem getting hold of older motherboards - but : there maybe other solutions.... : : What's the actual motherboard you're using? have you checked for a BIOS : update? - these will occasionally give access to larger RAM sticks or HD's : than the originals. : : : -- : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's : : "Alias" wrote in message : ... : No, it's a desktop that has one of those big CPUs that needs a specific : motherboard, motherboards that aren't made anymore. : : I'll never buy another HP. : : Alias : : "Noel Paton" wrote : : : "Athlon 800 processor made specifically for HP"?? : : All links I can find for such beast imply that that is a laptop : : configuration - which would imply further that replacing the motherboard : is : : not really a viable option, although replacing the laptop would be!G : : : : -- : : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to : NG's : : : : "Alias" wrote in message : : ... : : I'd have to change the AMD Athlon 800 processor made specifically for : HP : : and : : find the drivers for the old video card and audio card. Nah, it's : humming : : they way it is and Firefox rocks. To give you an example, I use : : addfreestats.com as a counter for one of my web sites. When I check my : : stats : : with IE, I always -- even with SP2 -- get a pop-under advert. With : : Firefox, : : I don't and the tabbed browsing is great. : : : : Alias : : : : "Noel Paton" wrote : : : : : You can always change the motherboard - funds allowing, of course! : : : : : : -- : : : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : : : : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : : : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : : : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : : : : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to : : NG's : : : : : : "Alias" wrote in message : : : ... : : : : : : "Noel Paton" wrote : : : : : : : So the site is different - SO WHAT? : : : : : : : : Yes, the IE/OE is different - because XP is capable of things : that : : Win : : : 9x : : : : system are not! : : : : you can't have it both ways - living with a past-life OS, and : with : a : : : : frontline browser just ain't possible. : : : : At some stage you have to make a decision - upgrade the OS, or : live : : in : : : the : : : : past (although often the decision is made for you, by the simple : : fact : : of : : : : available funds, unfortunately) : : : : : : : : : : : : -- : : : : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : : : : : Actually, the decision was made for me by HP's motherboard. The : most : I : : can : : : do is Me. No problem, though, I have downloaded Firefox for that : box : : ;-) : : : In : : : fact, I use Firefox on my XP Pro machine too. : : : : : : Alias : : : : : : : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : : : : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : : : : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : : : : : : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post : messages : to : : : NG's : : : : : : : : "Alias" wrote in message : : : : ... : : : : : : : : "Noel Paton" wrote : : : : : : : : : That's not a change of heart - Windows Update have always : been : : : possible : : : : for : : : : : IE6! : : : : : : : : Yeah, but the IE/OE6 you get with XP SP2 is different than the : one : : you : : : get : : : : with Windows Me. The Windows Update web site is different too. : : : : : : : : Alias : : : : : : : : : Where you may be confusing things is that they had a change : of : : heart : : : for : : : : the : : : : : OS's involved (and that was around 6 months ago, if not : more) : : : : : : : : : : I suggest that you go to the source, and learn a little : about : : the : : : : product : : : : : lifecycle that MS professes. : : : : : : : : : : http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : -- : : : : : Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) : : : : : : : : : : Nil Carborundum Illegitemi : : : : : http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm : : : : : http://tinyurl.com/6oztj : : : : : : : : : : Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post : : messages : : to : : : : NG's : : : : : : : : : : "John John" wrote in message : : : : : ... : : : : : Well apparently MS has had a change of heart... sort of... : : : : : : : : : : Microsoft says IE updates possible : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+I...op&tag=nl.e703 : : : : : : : : : : Enhance Your Web Experience with Internet Explorer Add-ons : : : : : http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/addon/default.mspx : : : : : : : : : : John : : : : : : : : : : Noel Paton wrote: : : : : : The GDI vulnerability is nothing to do with IE. : : : : : : : : : : As I understand it, development of IE in existing : platforms : : : (apart : : : : from : : : : : XP) is halted, yes - but security fixes are still being : : posted, : : : and : : : : it's : : : : : my belief that at least some of the stuff in SP2 may be : : released : : : for : : : : : other platforms (a lot is just not portable). : : : : : : : : : : Besides which - what's the point in a hardened front-end : if : : the : : : : back-end : : : : : is open to everything (where anything running has total : : control : : : of : : : : the : : : : : system, as in Win9x). There's an awful lot of people : still : : going : : : to : : : : get : : : : : infested by malware simply because they click on : something : : they : : : don't : : : : : understand, and install the stuff themselves! : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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