fresh install to SCSI hard drive hangs at 8% mark

I am trying to install Windows 98 SE to a newly formatted Seagate
Cheetah 36MB SCSI drive. I used the AHA 2940 U host adapter's
configuration menu to recognize the drive. I booted from a Windows 98
startup floppy and then used fdisk and format from the boot floppy to
make one large active FAT32 partition. The CD-ROM is a 44X IDE unit set
to slave (jumper on or not didn't matter). It is recognized as drive E.
The whole process went smoothly. The whole 36 GB of drive C is
recognized and passes Scandisk including a suface scan. The install
proceeds normally through all steps until the 8% mark of files copied.
Then the computer freezes. I rebooted and ran the DOS dir command.
Files have been transferred and the Windows directory is created. When
I try again the same thing always happens at the point of 8% of the
files transferred. The computer has an old SI54P socket 5 motherboard
with a Pentium 100 cpu with 64 MB of ram. The SCSI host adapter is in
PCI slot 4 of 4.

I have just spent the better part of a frustrating day searching
Adaptec's, Microsoft's, and Seagate's websites as well as others to no
avail. I hope someone can help.

Try copying the needed installation files to the HDD first:

c:
md win98
copy e:\win98\*.* c:\win98
cd win98
setup

(I also run setup /? to get the setup switches so I can prevent a lot of
unnecessary functions, before running setup. Have to use the /? info because
my memory sucks, and because they're slightly different from version to
version.)

Might also try cleaning the CD. Clean from center to edge, and if you want
to apply a bit of Turtle Wax, so much the better, again polishing from
center to edge. Only real killer is if the *label* side is scratched through
to the plastic. The underside of the label is where the data is actually
stored.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

wrote in message
ups.com...
I am trying to install Windows 98 SE to a newly formatted Seagate
Cheetah 36MB SCSI drive. I used the AHA 2940 U host adapter's
configuration menu to recognize the drive. I booted from a Windows 98
startup floppy and then used fdisk and format from the boot floppy to
make one large active FAT32 partition. The CD-ROM is a 44X IDE unit set
to slave (jumper on or not didn't matter). It is recognized as drive E.
The whole process went smoothly. The whole 36 GB of drive C is
recognized and passes Scandisk including a suface scan. The install
proceeds normally through all steps until the 8% mark of files copied.
Then the computer freezes. I rebooted and ran the DOS dir command.
Files have been transferred and the Windows directory is created. When
I try again the same thing always happens at the point of 8% of the
files transferred. The computer has an old SI54P socket 5 motherboard
with a Pentium 100 cpu with 64 MB of ram. The SCSI host adapter is in
PCI slot 4 of 4.

I have just spent the better part of a frustrating day searching
Adaptec's, Microsoft's, and Seagate's websites as well as others to no
avail. I hope someone can help.

I can try copy but it only copies files, not directories and their
contents. There is no xcopy on the setup disk. I'll let you know what
happens.
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Try copying the needed installation files to the HDD first:

c:
md win98
copy e:\win98\*.* c:\win98
cd win98
setup

(I also run setup /? to get the setup switches so I can prevent a lot of
unnecessary functions, before running setup. Have to use the /? info because
my memory sucks, and because they're slightly different from version to
version.)

Might also try cleaning the CD. Clean from center to edge, and if you want
to apply a bit of Turtle Wax, so much the better, again polishing from
center to edge. Only real killer is if the *label* side is scratched through
to the plastic. The underside of the label is where the data is actually
stored.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

wrote in message
ups.com...
I am trying to install Windows 98 SE to a newly formatted Seagate
Cheetah 36MB SCSI drive. I used the AHA 2940 U host adapter's
configuration menu to recognize the drive. I booted from a Windows 98
startup floppy and then used fdisk and format from the boot floppy to
make one large active FAT32 partition. The CD-ROM is a 44X IDE unit set
to slave (jumper on or not didn't matter). It is recognized as drive E.
The whole process went smoothly. The whole 36 GB of drive C is
recognized and passes Scandisk including a suface scan. The install
proceeds normally through all steps until the 8% mark of files copied.
Then the computer freezes. I rebooted and ran the DOS dir command.
Files have been transferred and the Windows directory is created. When
I try again the same thing always happens at the point of 8% of the
files transferred. The computer has an old SI54P socket 5 motherboard
with a Pentium 100 cpu with 64 MB of ram. The SCSI host adapter is in
PCI slot 4 of 4.

I have just spent the better part of a frustrating day searching
Adaptec's, Microsoft's, and Seagate's websites as well as others to no
avail. I hope someone can help.

Same old 8% freeze running setup from C:\win98, only a lot quieter
since the CD wasn't whirling away. I at first I thought it was a
corrupted CD so I tried a completely different unused one. Same
problem.
wrote:
I can try copy but it only copies files, not directories and their
contents. There is no xcopy on the setup disk. I'll let you know what
happens.
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Try copying the needed installation files to the HDD first:

c:
md win98
copy e:\win98\*.* c:\win98
cd win98
setup

(I also run setup /? to get the setup switches so I can prevent a lot of
unnecessary functions, before running setup. Have to use the /? info because
my memory sucks, and because they're slightly different from version to
version.)

Might also try cleaning the CD. Clean from center to edge, and if you want
to apply a bit of Turtle Wax, so much the better, again polishing from
center to edge. Only real killer is if the *label* side is scratched through
to the plastic. The underside of the label is where the data is actually
stored.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

wrote in message
ups.com...
I am trying to install Windows 98 SE to a newly formatted Seagate
Cheetah 36MB SCSI drive. I used the AHA 2940 U host adapter's
configuration menu to recognize the drive. I booted from a Windows 98
startup floppy and then used fdisk and format from the boot floppy to
make one large active FAT32 partition. The CD-ROM is a 44X IDE unit set
to slave (jumper on or not didn't matter). It is recognized as drive E.
The whole process went smoothly. The whole 36 GB of drive C is
recognized and passes Scandisk including a suface scan. The install
proceeds normally through all steps until the 8% mark of files copied.
Then the computer freezes. I rebooted and ran the DOS dir command.
Files have been transferred and the Windows directory is created. When
I try again the same thing always happens at the point of 8% of the
files transferred. The computer has an old SI54P socket 5 motherboard
with a Pentium 100 cpu with 64 MB of ram. The SCSI host adapter is in
PCI slot 4 of 4.

I have just spent the better part of a frustrating day searching
Adaptec's, Microsoft's, and Seagate's websites as well as others to no
avail. I hope someone can help.

By the way, I "sysed" c: and the computer boots just fine from it.
wrote:
I can try copy but it only copies files, not directories and their
contents. There is no xcopy on the setup disk. I'll let you know what
happens.
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Try copying the needed installation files to the HDD first:

c:
md win98
copy e:\win98\*.* c:\win98
cd win98
setup

(I also run setup /? to get the setup switches so I can prevent a lot of
unnecessary functions, before running setup. Have to use the /? info because
my memory sucks, and because they're slightly different from version to
version.)

Might also try cleaning the CD. Clean from center to edge, and if you want
to apply a bit of Turtle Wax, so much the better, again polishing from
center to edge. Only real killer is if the *label* side is scratched through
to the plastic. The underside of the label is where the data is actually
stored.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

wrote in message
ups.com...
I am trying to install Windows 98 SE to a newly formatted Seagate
Cheetah 36MB SCSI drive. I used the AHA 2940 U host adapter's
configuration menu to recognize the drive. I booted from a Windows 98
startup floppy and then used fdisk and format from the boot floppy to
make one large active FAT32 partition. The CD-ROM is a 44X IDE unit set
to slave (jumper on or not didn't matter). It is recognized as drive E.
The whole process went smoothly. The whole 36 GB of drive C is
recognized and passes Scandisk including a suface scan. The install
proceeds normally through all steps until the 8% mark of files copied.
Then the computer freezes. I rebooted and ran the DOS dir command.
Files have been transferred and the Windows directory is created. When
I try again the same thing always happens at the point of 8% of the
files transferred. The computer has an old SI54P socket 5 motherboard
with a Pentium 100 cpu with 64 MB of ram. The SCSI host adapter is in
PCI slot 4 of 4.

I have just spent the better part of a frustrating day searching
Adaptec's, Microsoft's, and Seagate's websites as well as others to no
avail. I hope someone can help.

If you use the commands I gave you, all of the necessary files will be
copied to the HD. There are no sub-directories involved. All of the files
are in the Win98 directory on the CD, and not in any sub-directories or
other directories. The rest is fluff.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

wrote in message
oups.com...
I can try copy but it only copies files, not directories and their
contents. There is no xcopy on the setup disk. I'll let you know what
happens.
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Try copying the needed installation files to the HDD first:

c:
md win98
copy e:\win98\*.* c:\win98
cd win98
setup

(I also run setup /? to get the setup switches so I can prevent a lot of
unnecessary functions, before running setup. Have to use the /? info
because
my memory sucks, and because they're slightly different from version to
version.)

Might also try cleaning the CD. Clean from center to edge, and if you
want
to apply a bit of Turtle Wax, so much the better, again polishing from
center to edge. Only real killer is if the *label* side is scratched
through
to the plastic. The underside of the label is where the data is actually
stored.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

wrote in message
ups.com...
I am trying to install Windows 98 SE to a newly formatted Seagate
Cheetah 36MB SCSI drive. I used the AHA 2940 U host adapter's
configuration menu to recognize the drive. I booted from a Windows 98
startup floppy and then used fdisk and format from the boot floppy to
make one large active FAT32 partition. The CD-ROM is a 44X IDE unit set
to slave (jumper on or not didn't matter). It is recognized as drive E.
The whole process went smoothly. The whole 36 GB of drive C is
recognized and passes Scandisk including a suface scan. The install
proceeds normally through all steps until the 8% mark of files copied.
Then the computer freezes. I rebooted and ran the DOS dir command.
Files have been transferred and the Windows directory is created. When
I try again the same thing always happens at the point of 8% of the
files transferred. The computer has an old SI54P socket 5 motherboard
with a Pentium 100 cpu with 64 MB of ram. The SCSI host adapter is in
PCI slot 4 of 4.

I have just spent the better part of a frustrating day searching
Adaptec's, Microsoft's, and Seagate's websites as well as others to no
avail. I hope someone can help.

Hmmm... Well, at least you know it isn't the CD, s.

Sorry, I have to stop and go make a late dinner. I'll see what I can come up
with later tonight or tomorrow. But I suspect that 8% figure is a notable
one that can be used in a KB or Google search, along with "windows 98"
"win98", "setup", "stalls", perhaps. The quotes I used here aren't
necessary, but you *should* enclose "8%" in quotes.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
wrote in message
oups.com...
Same old 8% freeze running setup from C:\win98, only a lot quieter
since the CD wasn't whirling away. I at first I thought it was a
corrupted CD so I tried a completely different unused one. Same
problem.
wrote:
I can try copy but it only copies files, not directories and their
contents. There is no xcopy on the setup disk. I'll let you know what
happens.
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Try copying the needed installation files to the HDD first:

c:
md win98
copy e:\win98\*.* c:\win98
cd win98
setup

(I also run setup /? to get the setup switches so I can prevent a lot
of
unnecessary functions, before running setup. Have to use the /? info
because
my memory sucks, and because they're slightly different from version to
version.)

Might also try cleaning the CD. Clean from center to edge, and if you
want
to apply a bit of Turtle Wax, so much the better, again polishing from
center to edge. Only real killer is if the *label* side is scratched
through
to the plastic. The underside of the label is where the data is
actually
stored.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

wrote in message
ups.com...
I am trying to install Windows 98 SE to a newly formatted Seagate
Cheetah 36MB SCSI drive. I used the AHA 2940 U host adapter's
configuration menu to recognize the drive. I booted from a Windows 98
startup floppy and then used fdisk and format from the boot floppy to
make one large active FAT32 partition. The CD-ROM is a 44X IDE unit
set
to slave (jumper on or not didn't matter). It is recognized as drive
E.
The whole process went smoothly. The whole 36 GB of drive C is
recognized and passes Scandisk including a suface scan. The install
proceeds normally through all steps until the 8% mark of files
copied.
Then the computer freezes. I rebooted and ran the DOS dir command.
Files have been transferred and the Windows directory is created.
When
I try again the same thing always happens at the point of 8% of the
files transferred. The computer has an old SI54P socket 5 motherboard
with a Pentium 100 cpu with 64 MB of ram. The SCSI host adapter is in
PCI slot 4 of 4.

I have just spent the better part of a frustrating day searching
Adaptec's, Microsoft's, and Seagate's websites as well as others to
no
avail. I hope someone can help.

You probably have it right, but would like to hear from you.

Is the PC set to boot from scsi?
Is the scsi adapter bios setup to boot?
Is the scsi hard drive setup properly for booting, and is the scsi ID either
0 or 1 for the scsi hard drive?
Is anything sharing the same hardware irq the scsi adapter uses at the bios
level, and is it the proper irq number?
If you have alot of peripherals, try removing all during the initial windows
install?
--
Jonny
wrote in message
ups.com...
I am trying to install Windows 98 SE to a newly formatted Seagate
Cheetah 36MB SCSI drive. I used the AHA 2940 U host adapter's
configuration menu to recognize the drive. I booted from a Windows 98
startup floppy and then used fdisk and format from the boot floppy to
make one large active FAT32 partition. The CD-ROM is a 44X IDE unit set
to slave (jumper on or not didn't matter). It is recognized as drive E.
The whole process went smoothly. The whole 36 GB of drive C is
recognized and passes Scandisk including a suface scan. The install
proceeds normally through all steps until the 8% mark of files copied.
Then the computer freezes. I rebooted and ran the DOS dir command.
Files have been transferred and the Windows directory is created. When
I try again the same thing always happens at the point of 8% of the
files transferred. The computer has an old SI54P socket 5 motherboard
with a Pentium 100 cpu with 64 MB of ram. The SCSI host adapter is in
PCI slot 4 of 4.

I have just spent the better part of a frustrating day searching
Adaptec's, Microsoft's, and Seagate's websites as well as others to no
avail. I hope someone can help.

Jonny wrote:
You probably have it right, but would like to hear from you.

Is the PC set to boot from scsi?

yes

Is the scsi adapter bios setup to boot?

yes, and it does after I did "A:\sys C:"

Is the scsi hard drive setup properly for booting, and is the scsi ID either
0 or 1 for the scsi hard drive?

Yes, it must be it boots to a "C:\" prompt.

Is anything sharing the same hardware irq the scsi adapter uses at the bios
level, and is it the proper irq number?

Not sure but it is not user defined. There are no jumpers on the card.

If you have alot of peripherals, try removing all during the initial windows
install?

I tried removing everything except the video card and the SCSI host
adapter.
--

Thanks.
Jonny
wrote in message
ups.com...
I am trying to install Windows 98 SE to a newly formatted Seagate
Cheetah 36MB SCSI drive. I have just spent the better part of a frustrating day searching
Adaptec's, Microsoft's, and Seagate's websites as well as others to no
avail. I hope someone can help.