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Old January 17th 07, 07:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB
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Default How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

This is a long post to collect issues relating to uninstalling Office [2000
specifically, though it could be modified for other versions and programs]
necessary for future referencing.
PLEASE do not quote or include this post in its entirety in any answers!!
CUT/CLIP what sections you are responding to from this [or the prior
discussions] when posting your input.

SUMMARY of prior discussions [Hopefully BAP and BC will use this discussion
for further activities]:

Two separate discussions were had in this group relating to the inability
to remove Office 2000 SR1 or correct errors occurring. The first discussion
was unsuccessful with correction of issues and/or removal.

As the poster [BAP] did not have the CDROM(s) for Office 2000, but had
CD-ROMs for Office Pro 2000, it was determined [in the second discussion,
and I think, suggested in the first] that the best recourse was to uninstall
the standard edition, and replace it with the Pro version. It could NOT be
accomplished using the Office un-installation routine in the original
installation.

A poster [BC] created an un-installation/cleanup routine for BAP to use,
which I looked at and thought might work.
MY ERROR was to presume BAP would restart the computer [thereby refreshing
the registry] after each step. There are now errors and issues which need to
be addressed. I apologize to BAP for my failure to direct the restarts
should be used.

Here was the original uninstall/cleaning routine which was established:

Subject: Gary S. Terhune - MS Office 2000 SR-1
Date: 6 Jan 2007 18:22:09 -0800

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FYI:

I used a spare PC that had Windows 98 without
Office installed (there *are* alternatives after all)
and ran through a couple of cycles of installing
and removing Office 2K Pro by manually wiping
it out.

1) The first issue was that the Freeware version
of JV16 didn't even have Office 2000 entries in the
program list. So as an alternative I downloaded
CCleaner from he
http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner
[I added: JV has an ignore list or lists, Office and/or components are
listed:
C:\Program Files\jv16 PowerTools\Settings\Ignore\Reported by users.dat -
which you can view or edit with a text editor or create your own.
To allow JV removal would require removing Office AND the individual progs
from the ignore list,, or so it seems.]

Note: when installing, uncheck all but the fist
2 options

Before running CCleaner, go into C:\Program
Files and delete the Microsoft Office folder.

2) Now run CCleaner. The "Fix Issues" option
is what needs to be run, but there's no harm in
doing a little cleaning up beforehand with the
main "Run Cleaner" function (uncheck "Cookies"
if you want to retain login info for web sites.)

Click on "Fix All Selected Issues" and make a
backup copy of the registry when prompted.

Select Fix All Issues -- this will remove the now
invalid Office 2k entries from the registry.

3) Run Eraser 2000 to get remove most of what's
still left of Office 2k. You will have to reboot and
this *will* screw up your fonts. Reinstalling Office
2K apparently will fix this.
[I added: The link to the Microsoft utility to remove all versions of
Office 2K:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239938 from prior posting]


4) Download and install the MS Installer CleanUp
utility: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301
Run this and remove any Office 2k entries that
are listed.

5) Now you should be able to do a clean install
of Office with whatever version you have.

Simple, no? Friggin' Microsoft and their little
tricks....

|-BC
-----------

BAP used this routine to attempt the removal and installation of the Pro
version, but ran across issues related to this routine.
Though finally getting to the point of actually being able to install
Office Pro 2000 [which could not be accomplished before using this routine],
BAP reported this after using the technique:

BC, I decided to undertake the task of removing MS Office SR-1 Standard from
the troubled Computer, following your procedure. From all that I can see,
the installation of MS Office Pro was successful. There is, at least to this
point, one minor resolvable discrepancy that I should be able to handle. I
do
have several items to point out, however, that are more of a bother than
serious problems, hopefully.
The task evolved in this fashion.
-Deleted the MS Office Folder, composed the regback.bat file and ran it,
without any problems.
-Installed the downloaded CCleaner, 'unchecking all but the fist 2 options'
..
-Ran CCleaner, but the icons for the "Fix Issues" or "Fix All Selected
Issues" were not in sight. (More on this, later)
- Ignored that step and went to "Tools", checked only the option to
uninstall "Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Standard" and did that.
- Went to "Cleaner" and ran it with all the items checked, as shown. As it
appeared to be confirmation of deleted files, I exited CCleaner
- Ran 'Eraser 2000' and allowed the System to re-boot.
- Ran "msicuu2.exe".
- Tried to install the Pro Version. The CD simply would not show anything on
the Monitor for the longest time. Eventually, an Error window, with Setup
shown on the top left corner, said that an illegal operation had been
performed. Start\Run (My drive)F:\Setup.exe showed similar outcome.
Luckily,
by Gary's earlier suggestion, I had copied the contents of the CD on a
Folder
of a different Computer, burn its contents to another CD and, finally, copy
all to a Folder in the troubled Computer.
- Ran Setup.exe from that Folder and was able to install the Pro Version.
Strangely, when I entered the Key Number, Error 1904 showed up saying that
"Module C:\Windows\System\MSRCLR40.DLL had failed to register.
HResult-2147023739. Contact your Support Personnel".
- On the next trial, I clicked on Next without entering the Product Key and
the installation took place.
- Later on, while in the process of testing Office Applications, I was asked
to enter the Key number, but, to my impression, not as a MUST. Did enter it
at that time.
- To my relief, the Office Applications work as simple User would expect.

BC, wondering my inability to see "Fix Issues", I went back to CCleaner and
clicked on the "Issues" icon. The 'Scan for Issues" produced approximately 9
pages of items, many of them, apparently, of unrelated nature to Office.
Office was shown in 2 'Application Path', 13 to 'Help Files', 3 to
'Installer
Reference', 2 to 'Invalid Default Icon' and 10 to 'Missing Shared DLL'. It
my
be too late to fix anything, at this point, I presume. Would the option to
make a copy of the Registry show up when "Fix All Selected Issues" is
allowed? Do you think that it may be wise to allow the option to 'Fix All ',
at this late time?
Another disturbing fact is there are 12 Entries about Microsoft 2000 SR-1
Standard in HKEY.CLASSES.ROOT, using RegSeeker to search for it. Actually,
there are 6 sets of entries. Each set of two has the same CLSID, but the
second one is followed by \projID.
Do you feel that it would be OK to delete them?
Incidentally, the size of User.dat is the same as the one in the copy of the
Registry produced by the Regback.bat file, at 1,650,729 Bytes. The current
System.dat, on the other hand, is 10,649,632 vs 10,616,864 Bytes. It is
possible that this may not mean much.
** BC, thank you for all suggestions. All appears to be working OK, in spite
of my clumsiness. I would appreciate if you could clarify some of my
questions, at this point.
I re-iterate some shown plus one or two more.
1. Would the option to make a copy of the Registry show up when "Fix All
Selected Issues" is allowed?
2. Do you feel that it would be OK to delete the entries about Microsoft
2000 SR-1 Standard in HKEY.CLASSES.ROOT?
3. Do you feel that it would be OK to delete Entries about Microsoft 2000
SR-1 Standard in HKEY.CLASSES.ROOT?
4. I do not feel that it might be necessary to restore the Registry as
copied by Regback.bat, but, just for curiosity, what would be the steps to
do
that? It does not appear to me that it would work in the same way as when
restoring the copied saved by the System.
5. Is there something that I should have done that could be corrected, at
this point in the process?
*Thank you, BC, for your patience and time in getting me to this point!
--------

Realizing my ERROR to advise the restart/shutdown during the routine, I
then posted these questions which BAP answered:

Thank you, MEB! My answers follow your questions.

"MEB" wrote:

Hmm, not sure what happened to BC, thought he'd attempt to correct these
issues or explain some of them.

I would have a few questions due to the outcome you have experienced.

1. Did you shutdown/restart the computer between each sequence of the
removal and installation?

?** If I recall correctly, there was no shutdown. Only one restart/reboot
was allowed after running Eraser 2000.

2. Your finding the large amount of cleanable links for other programs
potentially indicates numerous programs have been previously installed and
uninstalled, is this true?

?** Definetely! Some may have been re-installed more than once, if errors
may have occurred during the execution of the application. Over the years,
since 1999, many Applications have been installed, along with many games,
mostly for grandchildren.

3. Have you found any errors occurring since the removal and installation?

?** Some, but not serious. One has to do with MS Word. In addition of taking
an unusual amount of time to come up
(either when clicking on its shortcut or on a DOC file), right-clicking on
HTML file, the EDIT option , which would call MS WORD for editing, it
reports
an Error, showing
'The Windows installer failed to install the program associated with this
file. Please contact your system coordinator.' During the installation of MS
Office 2000 Pro, an error showed up when I entered the Product Key no,
namely,
"Error 1904 - Module C:\Windows\System\MSRCLR40.DLL had failed to
register. HResult-2147023739. Contact your Support Personnel".
Before the installation, the options when rt/ck on HTML file we Open/Edit
plus others. Now they have changed to: Open/Open in same window\Open with
WordPerfect\Edit plus others. (I do have WordPerfect). I can, however, open
those files with IE and have the option to edit them with MS Word.
The other inconvenience is that when viewing Folders containing images, the
preview feature no longer works.

4. How large are the user.dat and system.dat files now?

?** Currently, USER.DAT is 1.57 MB. SYSTEM.DAT is 10.1 MB.

5. The registry might be cleanable/repairable via a relatively safe "DOS
prompt only" method using scanreg, would you like someone to advise you of
how this might work?

?** Any advise or guidance will be welcome.


----------

BC [being unable to answer originally due to personal issues] then created
a POST cleaning/installing routine:

Hi

Sorry for the delayed response -- I've been traveling and
Google was fiddling with Groups over the weekend. But:

1) CCleaner should always give you a backup option when
you pick Fix All Selected issues.

2) I would purge anything CCleaner sees as an issue. It's
a very conservative registry cleaner.

3) To restore the registry files backed up with regback.bat
simply means copying the contents of the regback folder,
especially system.dat and user.dat, into the c:\windows
folder, overwriting what's already there. You would have
to use the attrib command to unhide and unprotect the
active system and user dat files first. The easiest way
would be to just rename the c:\windows\regback folder
that was already created to something like regback1 or
such. Regback.bat will recreate a new regback folder,
make another copy of the system files, and unprotect
and unhide the registry files as well.

I would make another backup of the existing system
files before reusing an older backup.

Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best
you can, you can use a Microsoft trick to mildly
optimize the registry:

a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)

b) Enter: smartdrv
(optional, for speed)

c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt

This will rebuild your registry files.

Good luck.

|-BC
-----------

Hopefully, the above is sufficient enough to establish where the discussion
is/was for further activity and discussion.

MSRCLR40.DLL is Microsoft Jet Briefcase Reconciler Library [my present
version is 4.00.2927.2], to partially address BAP's listed error at 3. per
my questions.
Note that BAP's registry is filled with old entrees which need removed, and
is likely too large for a successful /fix /opt using scanreg unless they are
removed [hence the need to clean the registry first].

Comments and suggestions were requested by BAP.
Please remember to NOT quote or include the entire posting in any responses
as it is an undue burden upon the group when downloading messages or
responding via various routes.

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Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
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Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
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  #3  
Old January 18th 07, 02:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB
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Default How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

Geeees, I love it when someone posts without thinking or checking what
they're posting against..

--
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world"

"Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
_______________

"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...
| "MEB" meb@not wrote in message
| ...
|
| This is a long post to collect issues relating to uninstalling Office
| [2000
| specifically, though it could be modified for other versions and
programs]
| necessary for future referencing.
|
| Will you not get much more expert advice in one
| of the 100+ NGs MS maintains for the Office suite?
| MS probably no longer supports Office 2000 but
| its NGs continue, and that is the place to look for
| special knowledge. None of the quoted material
| seems peculiar to Win98.
| --
| Don Phillipson
| Carlsbad Springs
| (Ottawa, Canada)
|
|
|


  #4  
Old January 18th 07, 11:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
BAP
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Default How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

What a relief, MEB! I had been spending considerable amount of time
collecting issues, suggestions, answers from the replies to the original and
subsequent post regarding Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Standard and had several
pages almost ready for posting, but I am glad that you came thru with your
recap that, I am sure, would be more to the point than mine would have been.
Thank you!

The Office Applications, following the installation of MS Office 2000 Pro,
continue to perform as explained in my last reply to your questions.
To this point, I have not attempted to follow BC's suggestion for cleaning
up my Registry. I am ready to do so, however, as my confidence grows that I
won't mess up the timing and progression of things to do, avoiding the
dont's.

Your latest comments:
MSRCLR40.DLL is Microsoft Jet Briefcase Reconciler Library [my present
version is 4.00.2927.2], to partially address BAP's listed error at 3. per my
questions.
***
Hopefully this would prompt for answers that could cure “Error 1904 - Module
C:\Windows\System\MSRCLR40.DLL had failed to register. HResult-2147023739.
Contact your Support Personnel�.

Your next comment:
Note that BAP's registry is filled with old entrees which need removed, and
is likely too large for a successful /fix /opt using scanreg unless they are
removed [hence the need to clean the registry first].
***

By [hence the need to clean the registry first], I assume you mean to clean
the registry by running CCleaner, as BC suggests with the following:

1) CCleaner should always give you a backup option when
you pick Fix All Selected issues.

2) I would purge anything CCleaner sees as an issue. It's
a very conservative registry cleaner.

3) To restore the registry files backed up with regback.bat
simply means copying the contents of the regback folder,
especially system.dat and user.dat, into the c:\windows
folder, overwriting what's already there. You would have
to use the attrib command to unhide and unprotect the
active system and user dat files first. The easiest way
would be to just rename the c:\windows\regback folder
that was already created to something like regback1 or
such. Regback.bat will recreate a new regback folder,
make another copy of the system files, and unprotect
and unhide the registry files as well.

I would make another backup of the existing system
files before reusing an older backup.

Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best
you can, you can use a Microsoft trick to mildly
optimize the registry:

a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)

b) Enter: smartdrv
(optional, for speed)

c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt


****

MEB, thank you again, for your work!
  #5  
Old January 18th 07, 07:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB
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Default How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000




"BAP" wrote in message
...
| What a relief, MEB! I had been spending considerable amount of time
| collecting issues, suggestions, answers from the replies to the original
and
| subsequent post regarding Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Standard and had
several
| pages almost ready for posting, but I am glad that you came thru with your
| recap that, I am sure, would be more to the point than mine would have
been.
| Thank you!

None needed, but YW anyway. It was started in this news group in two other
threads, we should be able to end it here successfully.
Hopefully, I used only the most needed parts so the issues can be resolved.

|
| The Office Applications, following the installation of MS Office 2000 Pro,
| continue to perform as explained in my last reply to your questions.
| To this point, I have not attempted to follow BC's suggestion for cleaning
| up my Registry. I am ready to do so, however, as my confidence grows that
I
| won't mess up the timing and progression of things to do, avoiding the
| dont's.
|
| Your latest comments:
| ?MSRCLR40.DLL is Microsoft Jet Briefcase Reconciler Library [my present
| version is 4.00.2927.2], to partially address BAP's listed error at 3. per
my
| questions.
| ***
| Hopefully this would prompt for answers that could cure "Error 1904 -
Module
| C:\Windows\System\MSRCLR40.DLL had failed to register. HResult-2147023739.
| Contact your Support Personnel".

Let's see if the Shell and other related MVPs, or someone else, provides a
response for this.

|
| Your next comment:
| Note that BAP's registry is filled with old entrees which need removed,
and
| is likely too large for a successful /fix /opt using scanreg unless they
are
| removed [hence the need to clean the registry first].
| ***
|
| By [hence the need to clean the registry first], I assume you mean to
clean
| the registry by running CCleaner, as BC suggests with the following:
|
| 1) CCleaner should always give you a backup option when
| you pick Fix All Selected issues.
|
| 2) I would purge anything CCleaner sees as an issue. It's
| a very conservative registry cleaner.

CCleaner is conservative, however, some programs may have modified the
registry [which may or may not show in the cleaner], which probably should
not be removed. I suggest "may or may not be", related to prior issues which
indicated improper and/or removed registry entries interferring with the
Office uninstallation/installation which indicates other potential issues.

For instance: Running ccleaner on my system turns up a number of entries,
one of which is related to Nero Burning Rom for its language libraries, as
missing shared dlls. However Nero accesses these keys IN CASE there is a
language change. Removing them MIGHT create a program error issue. So this
type of entry [for other programs] may NOT be advisable to remove.

Another relates to createcd50.exe [Adaptec driver for WMPlayer in \common
files\Adaptec] {I post this relationship here, and for another thread
related to CDROM problems, hopefully someone will pick up on what it means}.

Another: If your running SpywareBlaster and/or Spybot S&D; ActiveX entries
may appear which have been disabled. Microsoft may have disabled some of its
own entries as well.

Another relates to the tshoot [trouble shooter/help issues] which was
disabled by Microsoft for security reasons.

Another relates to Front Page Express; disabled entries to negate improper
usage.

Yet another relates to AVG and ActiveX issues.

At minimum, likely the ActiveX, Front Page, and tshoot entries should be
left as they are [pending later review]. Nero, if your running that, should
also be left alone. Check for any issues related to your AV program and
firewall, and leave those for later review also.

What I'm trying to present is: rather than a mass deletion, a careful
removal of "directly related" entries, starting with known invalid entries
[for removed programs, games, etc.] would be best.
You can review the entries while in ccleaner [paths] and search for them
PRIOR to removal.
Back up during the removal [in ccleaner], and shut down/restart after EACH
modification.
PRIOR to each shut down/restart, make a registry backup via Microsoft's
tool [MSInfo - Tools - Registry Checker] so you have an emergency backup to
revert to if necessary. Copy your last good backup BEFORE starting the
removal process to another folder, JUST IN CASE [BC gave you a bat for the
purpose, though you can also do this manually]. This will give you the
tripled ability to monitor for individual problems and errors associated
with the various removals, and potentially revert to a good registry should
you run across problems.
I realize this is long and redundant work, but apparently the registry
hasn't been maintained for several years, so now is "payment" time.

The actual Office entries which will appear, should be left for one of the
last issues to address. When you get to that point, post what you find for
comparison to other's Office entries.

Once you get the registry cleaned to a single shown page [which is where it
should be] or maybe two, then you can post questions, if necessary,
regarding those individual entries.

On a related note: another program which can be used for registry
modifications and cleaning is Hoverdesk RegSeeker. This tool will allow you
to double click on the entry, which then opens it in regedit. It will return
far more entries, and is NOT for the neophyte to registry modification and
clean up, though those with experience will appreciate its extended
abilities. Again, I caution: those not completely familiar with the registry
and its entries; should preferably use some other cleaning program like
ccleaner CAREFULLY as being discussed.

|
| 3) To restore the registry files backed up with regback.bat
| simply means copying the contents of the regback folder,
| especially system.dat and user.dat, into the c:\windows
| folder, overwriting what's already there. You would have
| to use the attrib command to unhide and unprotect the
| active system and user dat files first. The easiest way
| would be to just rename the c:\windows\regback folder
| that was already created to something like regback1 or
| such. Regback.bat will recreate a new regback folder,
| make another copy of the system files, and unprotect
| and unhide the registry files as well.
|
| I would make another backup of the existing system
| files before reusing an older backup.
|

The below should be used only AFTER you have carefully cleaned your
registry and found no errors, or errors which might be corrected BY using
this technique, as final cleanup/compaction. The present registry is too
large and with apparently too many invalid entries for accurate usage. If it
were not so, then this might be a good way to do "house cleaning".
Moreover, it sometimes removes entries from the registry by "mistake"
[doesn't recognize them properly and removes them] so this technique also
needs to be used with caution.

| Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best
| you can, you can use a Microsoft trick to mildly
| optimize the registry:
|
| a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)
|
| b) Enter: smartdrv
| (optional, for speed)
|
| c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt
|
| ****
|
| MEB, thank you again, for your work!

Well, we're not done yet... and others have already helped and will be
helping... none of us need thanks, we like helping others if we can, though
its always appreciated...

--
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world"

"Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
_______________


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Old January 18th 07, 11:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill in Co.
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Default How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000

MEB wrote:
"BAP" wrote in message

snip

The below should be used only AFTER you have carefully cleaned your
registry and found no errors, or errors which might be corrected BY using
this technique, as final cleanup/compaction. The present registry is too
large and with apparently too many invalid entries for accurate usage. If

it
were not so, then this might be a good way to do "house cleaning".
Moreover, it sometimes removes entries from the registry by "mistake"
[doesn't recognize them properly and removes them] so this technique also
needs to be used with caution.


Wait a minute, MEB. Are you saying that using "scanreg /fix /opt" has
*actually* removed some entries by mistake? Have you actually seen that
happen? If so, can you be more specific (if you happen to recall) what it
was, for example?


Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best you
can, you can use a Microsoft trick to mildly optimize the registry:

a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)

b) Enter: smartdrv
(optional, for speed)

c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt


****

MEB, thank you again, for your work!


Well, we're not done yet... and others have already helped and will be
helping... none of us need thanks, we like helping others if we can,

though
its always appreciated...



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Old January 19th 07, 02:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB
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Default How do I uninstall Office 2000 and install Office Pro 2000




"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
| MEB wrote:
| "BAP" wrote in message
|
| snip
|
| The below should be used only AFTER you have carefully cleaned your
| registry and found no errors, or errors which might be corrected BY
using
| this technique, as final cleanup/compaction. The present registry is too
| large and with apparently too many invalid entries for accurate usage.
If
| it
| were not so, then this might be a good way to do "house cleaning".
| Moreover, it sometimes removes entries from the registry by "mistake"
| [doesn't recognize them properly and removes them] so this technique
also
| needs to be used with caution.
|
| Wait a minute, MEB. Are you saying that using "scanreg /fix /opt" has
| *actually* removed some entries by mistake? Have you actually seen
that
| happen? If so, can you be more specific (if you happen to recall) what
it
| was, for example?
|

If I remember correctly, and I admit to NOT having done this recently, one
issue that pops into mind [however accurate] revolve around Adobe products
and/or was it Macromedia; [other from decaying memory] with a couple of
programs designed within the last four or so years designed for both XP and
Win98, e.g., the hives are allowed more information within them than the
registry. The entries were apparently too large for the recommended registry
size and either removed or shortened, or otherwise not recognized/handled
correctly. After using the scanreg /fix and /opt the programs errored.
After all, that is apparently part of what is checked during the /fix
usage, invalid entries. What does scanreg apparently check against for
"invalid",, Microsoft recommendations and known entries.
This was, if I remember correctly, also an issue and even more severe, with
the even older regedit fix/compact routine which used to be recommended,
though somewhat corrected using scanreg.

For whatever the reasoning, I stopped using that routine due to errors
caused by the routine. Hence, began searching for and testing of other
programs to [again] handle those issues with relative safety. Back to manual
editing, or tools which showed potential issues from which to work.

To me, it is a "last ditch, if all else fails", way to achieve a
potentially stable registry, and that's about what its worth.

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| Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best you
| can, you can use a Microsoft trick to mildly optimize the registry:
|
| a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)
|
| b) Enter: smartdrv
| (optional, for speed)
|
| c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt
|
| ****
|
| MEB, thank you again, for your work!
|
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Old January 20th 07, 11:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
BAP
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Your observation, MEB:
"Note that BAP's registry is filled with old entrees which need removed,
and is likely too large for a successful /fix /opt using scanreg unless they
are removed [hence the need to clean the registry first]".

Currently, my USER.DAT is 1.57 MB. SYSTEM.DAT is 10.1 MB.

BC's step-by-step suggestions:
"I would make another backup of the existing system files before reusing an
older backup.
Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best you can, you can use a
Microsoft trick to mildly optimize the registry:
a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)
b) Enter: smartdrv (optional, for speed)
c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt
This will rebuild your registry files.

***MEB, BC....this is what transpired:
I followed the steps, as suggested, but the command scanreg /fix /opt
stopped at 89%, before it was interrupted by this error: “Windows found an
error in your System files and was unable to fix the problem. Try deleting
some files to free up disk space on your Window Drive. If that doesn’t
work, then you will need to install Windows to a new Directory.�
Does “Window Drive� refer to Windows Folder?
I re-booted and explored the Windows folder. As one would expect, there are
plenty of folders and files, but not all readily identifiable as to their
source, need or purpose.
For my Windows Folder, its Properties shows its size at 3.18GB, containing
11,361 Files and 985 Folders. Among them, are several entries that appear to
be related to installed games. In addition, there are several Folders named
Wcm and Wcm001 thru Wcm007. I explored each with these results:
Wcm: 27 files - 3.11MB - 09/30/2001.
Wcm.001: 9 files - 1.43MB - 01/07/2004
Wcm.002: 1 files - 24KB - 01/19/2004
Wcm.003: 89 files - 14.2MB - 02/21/2004
Wcm.004: 89 files - 14.2MB - 02/24/2004
Wcm.005: 7 files - 1.82 - 05/20/2004
Wcm.006: 1 file - 24KB - 05/20/2004
Wcm.007: 89 files - 15.5MB - 05/24/2004
Is there a reason for keeping these Folders?
There are familiar Applications that I could possibly delete, but I have no
idea about what else I could do to satisfy the need expressed by scanreg /fix
/opt.
I am currently reviewing Gary’s, Glee’s and Badour’s views on the subject,
posted in late November of 2006. My inclination, at this point, is not to
start a new thread within your Recap and proceed with caution with further
activities on the subject matter.
Thank you, MEB,BC and all for any additional suggestion!
***

  #10  
Old January 20th 07, 06:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Rick Chauvin
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"BAP" wrote in message

Your observation, MEB:
?"Note that BAP's registry is filled with old entrees which need removed,
and is likely too large for a successful /fix /opt using scanreg unless
they are removed [hence the need to clean the registry first]".

?Currently, my USER.DAT is 1.57 MB. SYSTEM.DAT is 10.1 MB.


Yes that is correct it's the sum of the user.dat and system.dat
Many times scanreg /fix or /opt will fail when the registry reaches 8mb or
more, however, some people have successfully ran a *.dat file total over
that and have ran scanreg with no apparent problems; I would personally not
want to though.
However, in the first place in no way will these /fix /opt features remove
your office installs now errant registry entries - that's not what it was
designed to do.

BAP,

In an effort and wanting to be of help to you which I know that I could, I
went back to read a few previous posts, but as I tried to read back from
October and follow the flow of discussions with All of these many many many
things that you did in the meantime to try and resolve your problem, I can
see at this point honestly it may be so much quicker and take less time
(than you've already spent for sure) for you to just reinstall Windows
itself - and going forward doing it with a new mindset this time.

(before I say anything more though I would be remiss in not saying that in
the first place everyone should use backup partitioning imaging software,
and as well a professional registry/file tracking system to keep track of
each install or at least a timeperiod, which if done in the first place*
...then the uninstall of your O2K would be a one click in 30 seconds Simple!
or, restoring the OS partition to your backup of a time before would be a
few clicks & few minutes simple..)

Now back to the subject at hand, looking at everything that you have done
since you first posted in Oct and putting it in perspective, with the
running of whatever third party cleanup programs, which, in no way in
heaven can ANY of them duplicate a true uninstall of all '''41,142'''
registry add/replace changes that the O2K makes! (that's right you read
that number correctly) as well as the hundreds of file changes where many
of them replace original OS file versions; not to mention now that you've
installed O2K pro on-top of that which now adds its own, and registry
rewrites the old differently, etc, etc, etc... now it's more than anyone
bargained for (without professional registry tracking or backup partition
imaging) to be able to set your aright 'in an accurate true sense'.

IMHO at this point in time with all what you have subsequently done in the
meantime, to now come to any type of clean outcome that you will not wonder
about are there any negative impacts that was mistakenly done to your OS's
installation in the interim - is not so easily possible.

My advice is that it's simpler and more efficient and in the long run way,
for your own piece of mind, is to reinstall the OS from scratch giving you
'fresh opportunities' to make everything else the way you always wanted and
to have done it in a software-wise virgin way going forward.

~~~~~~.

I do have the Office 2001 SR1 CD and All of the updates after it (updates
as of 11/2004 anyway)

I also do have an in-depth professional tracking results of all that the
File/Registry changes that are made from a complete install of it all, of
which its Registry changes are Substantial I must say @ 41+ thousand
entries that have been made!... ..it's actually many times more that any
known Symantec product ever/even makes sigh

I really wanted to be able to be of help to solve your issue which by now
has grown to more complicated than what you've bargained for. I would of
just lent you my CD to uninstall it in the first place if I was there (iirc
there is an easy way to trick that issue so you don't need it anyway) Also
as Don Phillipson eluded was to post to the subjects group in the 'first
place' but now after what's been done might be asking too much of anyone to
spend so much time needed to read them all while retaining all information
in one mind grasp.

It all should of and would of been easy* ..but at this point with so much
and all the many many things that you have done in the meantime which some
I agree with some I don't, but to now have a meaningful successful outcome
may be nearly humanly impossible, and for your own piece of mind sake, and
system wide successful outcome sake, may be to reinstall from scratch.

Rick




BC's step-by-step suggestions:
?"I would make another backup of the existing system files before
reusing an older backup.
Once you've cleaned up things with CCleaner as best you can, you can use
a Microsoft trick to mildly optimize the registry:
a) Restart in DOS mode (the prompt doesn't matter)
b) Enter: smartdrv (optional, for speed)
c) Then enter: scanreg /fix /opt
This will rebuild your registry files.

***MEB, BC....this is what transpired:
?I followed the steps, as suggested, but the command scanreg /fix /opt
stopped at 89%, before it was interrupted by this error: "Windows found
an error in your System files and was unable to fix the problem. Try
deleting some files to free up disk space on your Window Drive. If that
doesn't
work, then you will need to install Windows to a new Directory."
Does "Window Drive" refer to Windows Folder?
I re-booted and explored the Windows folder. As one would expect, there
are plenty of folders and files, but not all readily identifiable as to
their source, need or purpose.
For my Windows Folder, its Properties shows its size at 3.18GB,
containing 11,361 Files and 985 Folders. Among them, are several entries
that appear to be related to installed games. In addition, there are
several Folders named Wcm and Wcm001 thru Wcm007. I explored each with
these results:
Wcm: 27 files - 3.11MB - 09/30/2001.
Wcm.001: 9 files - 1.43MB - 01/07/2004
Wcm.002: 1 files - 24KB - 01/19/2004
Wcm.003: 89 files - 14.2MB - 02/21/2004
Wcm.004: 89 files - 14.2MB - 02/24/2004
Wcm.005: 7 files - 1.82 - 05/20/2004
Wcm.006: 1 file - 24KB - 05/20/2004
Wcm.007: 89 files - 15.5MB - 05/24/2004
Is there a reason for keeping these Folders?
There are familiar Applications that I could possibly delete, but I have
no idea about what else I could do to satisfy the need expressed by
scanreg /fix /opt.
I am currently reviewing Gary's, Glee's and Badour's views on the
subject, posted in late November of 2006. My inclination, at this
point, is not to start a new thread within your Recap and proceed with
caution with further activities on the subject matter.
Thank you, MEB,BC and all for any additional suggestion!
***









 




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