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(thanks, Mike) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Hi Noel, I think its your turn on recommendations for restoring System Restore The problem is that no restore points can be created. I have tried both Mike's recommendations previously [thanks Mike], namely a) SCANREG /FIX and b) deleting the existing c:\_RESTORE folder using DOS. For good measure have now tried both again - but the problem is unchanged. I found after replacing _RESTORE folder that disk space for SR was at max., I reset it to 317MB, rebooted, but still no restore points are being created. Perhaps there is something available on my original WIN ME CD to restore SR to working order??? I would like any advice on this. -Jeremy Stanford N.B.Below is pasted a copy of yesterday's descriptive post [Jeremy Stanford - June 11 6:22PM] Some history of the problem and attempts to fix it... This may be relevant (?) - Nine months ago I couldn't enter Windows, no safe mode, only DOS available on startup. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard drive by copying it, he said. So my pc has a hidden partition, containing my original personal files, that isn't listed (or, apparently, identified) by Windows. Certainly, I have listed something like half the memory available than before, now 128MB RAM 46% free. SR worked before this incident. But I don't know precisely when SR went duff - it is only called up when it's needed. The responses I get from SR are as follows: Restore my computer to an earlier time currently no restore points available. Create a restore point System Restore is not able to create a Restore Point. Please restart the computer and run System Restore again. Restarting always results in a repeat of the above. Data appears to be being logged. C:\_RESTORE\LOGS contains 3 files: lastsfp.dat, vxdalt1.log and vxdsfp.log, the last two of 1025 KBytes, all of today's date. ...\ARCHIVES contains BKUPVXDLASTLOG files of 1025 KB up to today's date. ...\TEMP contains many .CPY files up to today's date. .....\SFP folder is empty. C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE contains statemgr.exe and stmgr.exe, amongst other files. Stmgr.exe is also on C: drive (I copied it to one or other folder in a vain gesture). I have tried to fix SR previously... by removing H,S,R attributes in DOS and renaming... but the automatic replacement folder delivered the same problem, as above. Any ideas for a solution are most welcome from all. -Jeremy Stanford |
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Try this - see if it forces a first restore point....
Start | Run enter C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Restore\rstrui.exe /makefirstrestorepoint (Note - the above should all be one line starting at C: and ending at the 't', and is case-sensitive) In Registry, check the following item - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\VxDMon i n the RH pane "StaticVxD"="*VxDMon" "LogDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\LOGS" "TempDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\TEMP" "VxdDat"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.dat" "VxdCfg"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.cfg" "SystemFileProtection"="Y" "SystemRestore"="Y" "FirstRun"="N" Is there anything else there? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's or http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp "Jeremy Stanford" wrote in message ... -----Original Message----- (thanks, Mike) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Hi Noel, I think its your turn on recommendations for restoring System Restore The problem is that no restore points can be created. I have tried both Mike's recommendations previously [thanks Mike], namely a) SCANREG /FIX and b) deleting the existing c:\_RESTORE folder using DOS. For good measure have now tried both again - but the problem is unchanged. I found after replacing _RESTORE folder that disk space for SR was at max., I reset it to 317MB, rebooted, but still no restore points are being created. Perhaps there is something available on my original WIN ME CD to restore SR to working order??? I would like any advice on this. -Jeremy Stanford N.B.Below is pasted a copy of yesterday's descriptive post [Jeremy Stanford - June 11 6:22PM] Some history of the problem and attempts to fix it... This may be relevant (?) - Nine months ago I couldn't enter Windows, no safe mode, only DOS available on startup. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard drive by copying it, he said. So my pc has a hidden partition, containing my original personal files, that isn't listed (or, apparently, identified) by Windows. Certainly, I have listed something like half the memory available than before, now 128MB RAM 46% free. SR worked before this incident. But I don't know precisely when SR went duff - it is only called up when it's needed. The responses I get from SR are as follows: Restore my computer to an earlier time currently no restore points available. Create a restore point System Restore is not able to create a Restore Point. Please restart the computer and run System Restore again. Restarting always results in a repeat of the above. Data appears to be being logged. C:\_RESTORE\LOGS contains 3 files: lastsfp.dat, vxdalt1.log and vxdsfp.log, the last two of 1025 KBytes, all of today's date. ...\ARCHIVES contains BKUPVXDLASTLOG files of 1025 KB up to today's date. ...\TEMP contains many .CPY files up to today's date. ....\SFP folder is empty. C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE contains statemgr.exe and stmgr.exe, amongst other files. Stmgr.exe is also on C: drive (I copied it to one or other folder in a vain gesture). I have tried to fix SR previously... by removing H,S,R attributes in DOS and renaming... but the automatic replacement folder delivered the same problem, as above. Any ideas for a solution are most welcome from all. -Jeremy Stanford |
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OK, done that. I copied the registry entry before, and
after, running the rstrui.exe action. Registry entries before and after remained identical. [I tried SR again, but still no restore points, or after restart.] This was the registry entry : [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\V xDMon] "StaticVxD"="*VxDMon" "LogDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\LOGS" "TempDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\TEMP" "VxdDat"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.dat" "VxdCfg"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.cfg" "SystemFileProtection"="Y" "SystemRestore"="Y" "FirstRun"="N" "OOBEInProgress"="Y" Note the final entry, which was constant. My research tells me, variously, that an OOBE is an OutOfBodyExperience, an OutOfBoxExperience to enhance user satisfaction, or a program associated with Win XP which starts setup wizards on a new pc (which mine isn't, but it has had a retread). So I deleted the OOBE entry from the registry and, on reboot, experienced an OOBodyE myself. SR window says: New restore point 12 June 2004 19:35 new. So PROBLEM SOLVED by understanding the registry. Many thanks. The only niggling problem I have remaining is a message on startup about my NVidia display driver: RUNDLL Error in C:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll Missing entry NVStartup AFAIK display functions are working fine. Registry entries at HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current version\Run, include : NvCplDaemon "RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup" This same entry is correctly ticked in System Configuration Utility | Startup. So I don't know what RUNDLL thinks the problem is - or whether I can just ignore it. -Jeremy Stanford -----Original Message----- Try this - see if it forces a first restore point.... Start | Run enter C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Restore\rstrui.exe /makefirstrestorepoi nt (Note - the above should all be one line starting at C: and ending at the 't', and is case-sensitive) In Registry, check the following item - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\Vx DMon i n the RH pane "StaticVxD"="*VxDMon" "LogDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\LOGS" "TempDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\TEMP" "VxdDat"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.dat" "VxdCfg"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.cfg" "SystemFileProtection"="Y" "SystemRestore"="Y" "FirstRun"="N" Is there anything else there? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's or http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f...2001/Mar01/Mar 27pmvp.asp "Jeremy Stanford" wrote in message ... -----Original Message----- (thanks, Mike) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Hi Noel, I think its your turn on recommendations for restoring System Restore The problem is that no restore points can be created. I have tried both Mike's recommendations previously [thanks Mike], namely a) SCANREG /FIX and b) deleting the existing c:\_RESTORE folder using DOS. For good measure have now tried both again - but the problem is unchanged. I found after replacing _RESTORE folder that disk space for SR was at max., I reset it to 317MB, rebooted, but still no restore points are being created. Perhaps there is something available on my original WIN ME CD to restore SR to working order??? I would like any advice on this. -Jeremy Stanford N.B.Below is pasted a copy of yesterday's descriptive post [Jeremy Stanford - June 11 6:22PM] Some history of the problem and attempts to fix it... This may be relevant (?) - Nine months ago I couldn't enter Windows, no safe mode, only DOS available on startup. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard drive by copying it, he said. So my pc has a hidden partition, containing my original personal files, that isn't listed (or, apparently, identified) by Windows. Certainly, I have listed something like half the memory available than before, now 128MB RAM 46% free. SR worked before this incident. But I don't know precisely when SR went duff - it is only called up when it's needed. The responses I get from SR are as follows: Restore my computer to an earlier time currently no restore points available. Create a restore point System Restore is not able to create a Restore Point. Please restart the computer and run System Restore again. Restarting always results in a repeat of the above. Data appears to be being logged. C:\_RESTORE\LOGS contains 3 files: lastsfp.dat, vxdalt1.log and vxdsfp.log, the last two of 1025 KBytes, all of today's date. ...\ARCHIVES contains BKUPVXDLASTLOG files of 1025 KB up to today's date. ...\TEMP contains many .CPY files up to today's date. ....\SFP folder is empty. C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE contains statemgr.exe and stmgr.exe, amongst other files. Stmgr.exe is also on C: drive (I copied it to one or other folder in a vain gesture). I have tried to fix SR previously... by removing H,S,R attributes in DOS and renaming... but the automatic replacement folder delivered the same problem, as above. Any ideas for a solution are most welcome from all. -Jeremy Stanford . |
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The presence of the OOBEInProgress value suggests that your reinstall of the
operating system did not complete correctly as this should have been deleted once the system install completed. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Jeremy Stanford wrote: OK, done that. I copied the registry entry before, and after, running the rstrui.exe action. Registry entries before and after remained identical. [I tried SR again, but still no restore points, or after restart.] This was the registry entry : [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\V xDMon] "StaticVxD"="*VxDMon" "LogDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\LOGS" "TempDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\TEMP" "VxdDat"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.dat" "VxdCfg"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.cfg" "SystemFileProtection"="Y" "SystemRestore"="Y" "FirstRun"="N" "OOBEInProgress"="Y" Note the final entry, which was constant. My research tells me, variously, that an OOBE is an OutOfBodyExperience, an OutOfBoxExperience to enhance user satisfaction, or a program associated with Win XP which starts setup wizards on a new pc (which mine isn't, but it has had a retread). So I deleted the OOBE entry from the registry and, on reboot, experienced an OOBodyE myself. SR window says: New restore point 12 June 2004 19:35 new. So PROBLEM SOLVED by understanding the registry. Many thanks. The only niggling problem I have remaining is a message on startup about my NVidia display driver: RUNDLL Error in C:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll Missing entry NVStartup AFAIK display functions are working fine. Registry entries at HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current version\Run, include : NvCplDaemon "RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup" This same entry is correctly ticked in System Configuration Utility | Startup. So I don't know what RUNDLL thinks the problem is - or whether I can just ignore it. -Jeremy Stanford |
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Great - at least that's one problem out of the way!
As to your rundll problem, my first inclination is to go with the 'easy hit' Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager Remove ALL Display Adapters Remove ALL Monitors Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers - hopefully curing your problem. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's or http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp "Jeremy Stanford" wrote in message ... OK, done that. I copied the registry entry before, and after, running the rstrui.exe action. Registry entries before and after remained identical. [I tried SR again, but still no restore points, or after restart.] This was the registry entry : [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\V xDMon] "StaticVxD"="*VxDMon" "LogDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\LOGS" "TempDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\TEMP" "VxdDat"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.dat" "VxdCfg"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.cfg" "SystemFileProtection"="Y" "SystemRestore"="Y" "FirstRun"="N" "OOBEInProgress"="Y" Note the final entry, which was constant. My research tells me, variously, that an OOBE is an OutOfBodyExperience, an OutOfBoxExperience to enhance user satisfaction, or a program associated with Win XP which starts setup wizards on a new pc (which mine isn't, but it has had a retread). So I deleted the OOBE entry from the registry and, on reboot, experienced an OOBodyE myself. SR window says: New restore point 12 June 2004 19:35 new. So PROBLEM SOLVED by understanding the registry. Many thanks. The only niggling problem I have remaining is a message on startup about my NVidia display driver: RUNDLL Error in C:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll Missing entry NVStartup AFAIK display functions are working fine. Registry entries at HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current version\Run, include : NvCplDaemon "RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup" This same entry is correctly ticked in System Configuration Utility | Startup. So I don't know what RUNDLL thinks the problem is - or whether I can just ignore it. -Jeremy Stanford -----Original Message----- Try this - see if it forces a first restore point.... Start | Run enter C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Restore\rstrui.exe /makefirstrestorepoi nt (Note - the above should all be one line starting at C: and ending at the 't', and is case-sensitive) In Registry, check the following item - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\Vx DMon i n the RH pane "StaticVxD"="*VxDMon" "LogDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\LOGS" "TempDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\TEMP" "VxdDat"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.dat" "VxdCfg"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.cfg" "SystemFileProtection"="Y" "SystemRestore"="Y" "FirstRun"="N" Is there anything else there? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's or http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f...2001/Mar01/Mar 27pmvp.asp "Jeremy Stanford" wrote in message ... -----Original Message----- (thanks, Mike) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Hi Noel, I think its your turn on recommendations for restoring System Restore The problem is that no restore points can be created. I have tried both Mike's recommendations previously [thanks Mike], namely a) SCANREG /FIX and b) deleting the existing c:\_RESTORE folder using DOS. For good measure have now tried both again - but the problem is unchanged. I found after replacing _RESTORE folder that disk space for SR was at max., I reset it to 317MB, rebooted, but still no restore points are being created. Perhaps there is something available on my original WIN ME CD to restore SR to working order??? I would like any advice on this. -Jeremy Stanford N.B.Below is pasted a copy of yesterday's descriptive post [Jeremy Stanford - June 11 6:22PM] Some history of the problem and attempts to fix it... This may be relevant (?) - Nine months ago I couldn't enter Windows, no safe mode, only DOS available on startup. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard drive by copying it, he said. So my pc has a hidden partition, containing my original personal files, that isn't listed (or, apparently, identified) by Windows. Certainly, I have listed something like half the memory available than before, now 128MB RAM 46% free. SR worked before this incident. But I don't know precisely when SR went duff - it is only called up when it's needed. The responses I get from SR are as follows: Restore my computer to an earlier time currently no restore points available. Create a restore point System Restore is not able to create a Restore Point. Please restart the computer and run System Restore again. Restarting always results in a repeat of the above. Data appears to be being logged. C:\_RESTORE\LOGS contains 3 files: lastsfp.dat, vxdalt1.log and vxdsfp.log, the last two of 1025 KBytes, all of today's date. ...\ARCHIVES contains BKUPVXDLASTLOG files of 1025 KB up to today's date. ...\TEMP contains many .CPY files up to today's date. ....\SFP folder is empty. C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE contains statemgr.exe and stmgr.exe, amongst other files. Stmgr.exe is also on C: drive (I copied it to one or other folder in a vain gesture). I have tried to fix SR previously... by removing H,S,R attributes in DOS and renaming... but the automatic replacement folder delivered the same problem, as above. Any ideas for a solution are most welcome from all. -Jeremy Stanford . |
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Done as suggested - deleting all Display Adapters and
Monitors. The reinstall took several restarts as Windows progressively graded up. Display Adapters now again lists the NVIDIA RIVA TNT2Model64/Model64Pro, as before. I note it is dated 20/9/2000. But Monitors now lists just 1 item: Plug and Play Monitor. Previously it listed 4 items: Default Monitor Dell D10225HE Plug and Play Monitor Plug and Play monitor These 4 were perhaps _available_ for installation? But I'm surprised I don't now have Default Monitor listed. Display functions nevertheless seem OK. BUT ... the error message on startup remains! : RUNDLL Error in C:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll Missing entry NVStartup During the reinstall in Safe Mode there was a message: "RUNDLL Error loading c:\Windows\System\NvCpl.dll A DLL initialization routine failed." The final stage of reinstallation occurred in Normal not Safe mode, but with settings at 640x480x16clr. Not sure what I need to do next ... Any thoughts please? -Jeremy Stanford -----Original Message----- Great - at least that's one problem out of the way! As to your rundll problem, my first inclination is to go with the 'easy hit' Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager Remove ALL Display Adapters Remove ALL Monitors Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers - hopefully curing your problem. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's or http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f...2001/Mar01/Mar 27pmvp.asp |
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Default Monitor should only appear if your monitor is not plug and play.
Your drivers are well out of date - I suggest that you go to nVidia's site and download more recent ones.... http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_56.64 should get you there. Make sure to follow the installation instructions - they get very picky!g -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's or http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp "Jeremy Stanford" wrote in message ... Done as suggested - deleting all Display Adapters and Monitors. The reinstall took several restarts as Windows progressively graded up. Display Adapters now again lists the NVIDIA RIVA TNT2Model64/Model64Pro, as before. I note it is dated 20/9/2000. But Monitors now lists just 1 item: Plug and Play Monitor. Previously it listed 4 items: Default Monitor Dell D10225HE Plug and Play Monitor Plug and Play monitor These 4 were perhaps _available_ for installation? But I'm surprised I don't now have Default Monitor listed. Display functions nevertheless seem OK. BUT ... the error message on startup remains! : RUNDLL Error in C:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll Missing entry NVStartup During the reinstall in Safe Mode there was a message: "RUNDLL Error loading c:\Windows\System\NvCpl.dll A DLL initialization routine failed." The final stage of reinstallation occurred in Normal not Safe mode, but with settings at 640x480x16clr. Not sure what I need to do next ... Any thoughts please? -Jeremy Stanford -----Original Message----- Great - at least that's one problem out of the way! As to your rundll problem, my first inclination is to go with the 'easy hit' Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager Remove ALL Display Adapters Remove ALL Monitors Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers - hopefully curing your problem. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's or http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f...2001/Mar01/Mar 27pmvp.asp |
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.. . .Your drivers are well out of date - I suggest that you go to nVidia's site and download more recent ones.... -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) The NvCpl.dll problem arose after I did just that ... I updated the driver about two weeks ago, then I reverted to the ME CD, now I've reinstalled ... I'll update again cautiously! -Jeremy Stanford "Jeremy Stanford" wrote in message ... Done as suggested - deleting all Display Adapters and Monitors. The reinstall took several restarts as Windows progressively graded up. Display Adapters now again lists the NVIDIA RIVA TNT2Model64/Model64Pro, as before. I note it is dated 20/9/2000. But Monitors now lists just 1 item: Plug and Play Monitor. Previously it listed 4 items: Default Monitor Dell D10225HE Plug and Play Monitor Plug and Play monitor These 4 were perhaps _available_ for installation? But I'm surprised I don't now have Default Monitor listed. Display functions nevertheless seem OK. BUT ... the error message on startup remains! : RUNDLL Error in C:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll Missing entry NVStartup During the reinstall in Safe Mode there was a message: "RUNDLL Error loading c:\Windows\System\NvCpl.dll A DLL initialization routine failed." The final stage of reinstallation occurred in Normal not Safe mode, but with settings at 640x480x16clr. Not sure what I need to do next ... Any thoughts please? -Jeremy Stanford |
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Update to my last message [8:59AM]. Device Manager lists
NVidia, as I stated, with date of 20/9/2000 and a file version of 4.12.01. But Update Driver responds that I'm using the best driver. Control Panel now has an individual selection for NVidia (since my previous update). The NVidia Desktop Manager panel display gives the file version as 56.64 (i.e. the latest version). Add/Remove programs lists 2 Nvidia items: NVIDIA Display Driver and NVIDIA Windows 95/98/ME Display Drivers. It seems I do have the latest 54.64 version installed. Is it possible there is a conflict arising - causing the Rundll problem - because the previous version was not removed during my original update 2 weeks ago? (I am prepared to reinstall 54.64 from the Web if necessary). -Jeremy Stanford -----Original Message----- -----Original Message----- .. . .Your drivers are well out of date - I suggest that you go to nVidia's site and download more recent ones.... -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) The NvCpl.dll problem arose after I did just that ... I updated the driver about two weeks ago, then I reverted to the ME CD, now I've reinstalled ... I'll update again cautiously! -Jeremy Stanford |
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