A Windows 98 & ME forum. Win98banter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » Win98banter forum » Windows ME » Monitors & Displays
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

System Restore and other problems



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old June 8th 04, 09:06 PM
Jeremy Stanford
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default System Restore and other problems

To Mike M and Noel P,

A new thread for new and (old) problems.
1) You have been giving me advice on restoring operation
of System Restore (in Folder View Repair thread). After
reinstalling Windows from CD and reinstalling all Windows
updates, SR still fails to work.

Other problems.
2) On startup I'm receiving a message that I'm using
selective startup. This occurs both when all items are
ticked in Control PanelSystemPerformanceFiles
SystemTroubleshooting and when none are ticked. (BTW,
which is correct for normal startup?)

3) On startup, Zone Alarm spots 2 programs trying to
access the Internet. 'Windows Explorer.exe', which is
correctly located in Windows folder; and 'Recover.exe',
which is on C: drive. Note that this Windows Explorer.exe
is identified as version 5.5, whereas my Internet Explorer
is version 6.0. Is it possible Windows is trying to
resolve something after my reinstall from CD? I have
inadvertently allowed both progs to connect, with no
visible results, and they continue to try to connect on
every startup. Both of the connecting DNS nos. are
unavailable using the browser.
Your thoughts are welcome. (BTW, is this still the
appropriate MS newsgroup?)
--Jeremy Stanford
  #2  
Old June 8th 04, 09:19 PM
Noel Paton
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default System Restore and other problems

1) What EXACT error messages do you get when a) attempting to create a
manual restore point b) attempting to use an existing restore point?

2) Selective Startup has nothing to do with the settings you';re changing -
it's triggered by MSCONFIG settings. (default for the troubleshooting
settings is UNchecked)

3) There is no such program a 'Windows Explorer.exe' - if it truly exists on
your system, then you have a virus. Note that Explorer.exe on a fully
updated Win ME system is v5.50.4134.100 - Iexplore.exe is v6.0.2800.1106.
AFAIK, there is no such program in Windows as 'Recover.exe' - certainly
there isn't on my system.

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://download.nai.com/products/mca...rt/stinger.exe

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.merijn.org/files/cwshredder.zip
http://www.merijn.org/files/CWShredder.exe
http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads...CWShredder.exe
http://www.zerosrealm.com/downloads/CWShredder.zip

download AdAware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to
remove spyware, adware,
and other such nasties from your system.




--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp
"Jeremy Stanford" wrote in message
...
To Mike M and Noel P,

A new thread for new and (old) problems.
1) You have been giving me advice on restoring operation
of System Restore (in Folder View Repair thread). After
reinstalling Windows from CD and reinstalling all Windows
updates, SR still fails to work.

Other problems.
2) On startup I'm receiving a message that I'm using
selective startup. This occurs both when all items are
ticked in Control PanelSystemPerformanceFiles
SystemTroubleshooting and when none are ticked. (BTW,
which is correct for normal startup?)

3) On startup, Zone Alarm spots 2 programs trying to
access the Internet. 'Windows Explorer.exe', which is
correctly located in Windows folder; and 'Recover.exe',
which is on C: drive. Note that this Windows Explorer.exe
is identified as version 5.5, whereas my Internet Explorer
is version 6.0. Is it possible Windows is trying to
resolve something after my reinstall from CD? I have
inadvertently allowed both progs to connect, with no
visible results, and they continue to try to connect on
every startup. Both of the connecting DNS nos. are
unavailable using the browser.
Your thoughts are welcome. (BTW, is this still the
appropriate MS newsgroup?)
--Jeremy Stanford



  #3  
Old June 8th 04, 10:36 PM
Mike M
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default System Restore and other problems

Jeremy.

I can't help but say that I have never ever seen an error message from system
restore such as "SR still fails to work" so perhaps you can help us to help
you by saying what you were trying to do and what error message you see.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Jeremy Stanford wrote:

To Mike M and Noel P,

A new thread for new and (old) problems.
1) You have been giving me advice on restoring operation
of System Restore (in Folder View Repair thread). After
reinstalling Windows from CD and reinstalling all Windows
updates, SR still fails to work.

Other problems.
2) On startup I'm receiving a message that I'm using
selective startup. This occurs both when all items are
ticked in Control PanelSystemPerformanceFiles
SystemTroubleshooting and when none are ticked. (BTW,
which is correct for normal startup?)

3) On startup, Zone Alarm spots 2 programs trying to
access the Internet. 'Windows Explorer.exe', which is
correctly located in Windows folder; and 'Recover.exe',
which is on C: drive. Note that this Windows Explorer.exe
is identified as version 5.5, whereas my Internet Explorer
is version 6.0. Is it possible Windows is trying to
resolve something after my reinstall from CD? I have
inadvertently allowed both progs to connect, with no
visible results, and they continue to try to connect on
every startup. Both of the connecting DNS nos. are
unavailable using the browser.
Your thoughts are welcome. (BTW, is this still the
appropriate MS newsgroup?)
--Jeremy Stanford



  #4  
Old June 9th 04, 08:53 PM
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default System Restore and other problems


-----Original (Reply) Message (from Noel Patton)-----
1) What EXACT error messages do you get when
a) attempting to create a manual restore point
b) attempting to use an existing restore point?


Would like to return to SR problems later, it requires
repeating some history.

2) Selective Startup has nothing to do with the settings
you';re changing - it's triggered by MSCONFIG settings.
(default for the troubleshooting settings is UNchecked)


OK, my fault. MSCONFIG setting is now at normal startup.
However, an additional startup popup message (I forgot to
mention) is: "Error in c:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll Missing
entry NvStartup". The reference is to my display driver
NVidia, which I reinstalled from the original ME CD last
weekend. Yet the System Configuration Utility (via
msconfig) shows this startup entry:
"NvCplDaemon Registry(Machine Run)RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup".
When I uncheck this item and reboot, display operates
fine. So perhaps I should uncheck it permanently?

3) There is no such program a 'Windows Explorer.exe' -
if it truly exists on your system, then you have a virus.
Note that Explorer.exe on a fully updated Win ME system
is 5.50.4134.100 - Iexplore.exe is v6.0.2800.1106.
AFAIK, there is no such program in Windows 'Recover.exe'
- certainly there isn't on my system.
You may have a virus/spyware hijack


The program trying to access the Internet is Explorer.exe,
(Zone Alarm identifies it as a Windows program). Also
accessing are Recover.exe and now also SSDP Services.
I have run all the virus/spyware programs you recommend
(as your msg. copied below) except I ran CWShredder in
Windows because I cannot get Safe Mode (another problem!)
Some things were spotted and presumably removed by
Stinger - Explorer.exe and Recover.exe were ignored.

But I may have the solution.
Please refer to this URL:
http://www.wown.com/kbase/WindowsTip...XP/RegistryTip
s/Network/DisableWindowsMessengerbroadcastsonUDPport1900.ht
ml

The problem as explained is with Windows Messenger, SSDP
Services, Universal Plug and Play, and Port 1900 (which is
the access port identified by my Zone Alarm). The solution
is:
Hive: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
Key: Software\Microsoft\DirectPlayNATHelp\DPNHUPnP
Name: UPnPMode
Type: REG_DWORD
Value: 2 disabled

The key above exists in my registry. It seems I need to
ADD a new DWord "UPnPMode" with value data modified to "2".
This solution is recommended for Win XP not for Win ME,
would you suggest it is appropriate for ME ?

--Jeremy Stanford

(Noel's original reply contn'd)...
download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure
that A-V-disabling viruses are not present on your PC
http://download.nai.com/products/mca...rt/stinger.exe

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of
all files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove
variants of the CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html . . .

. . . download AdAware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install,

update, and run . . .

-- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)


"Jeremy Stanford"
wrote

in message ...

To Mike M and Noel P,

A new thread for new and (old) problems.
1) You have been giving me advice on restoring operation
of System Restore (in Folder View Repair thread). After
reinstalling Windows from CD and reinstalling all
Windows updates, SR still fails to work.

Other problems.
2) On startup I'm receiving a message that I'm using
selective startup. This occurs both when all items are
ticked in Control PanelSystemPerformanceFiles
SystemTroubleshooting and when none are ticked. (BTW,
which is correct for normal startup?)

3) On startup, Zone Alarm spots 2 programs trying to
access the Internet. 'Windows Explorer.exe', which is
correctly located in Windows folder; and 'Recover.exe',
which is on C: drive. Note that this Windows
Explorer.exe is identified as version 5.5, whereas
my Internet Explorer
is version 6.0. Is it possible Windows is trying to
resolve something after my reinstall from CD? I have
inadvertently allowed both progs to connect, with no
visible results, and they continue to try to connect on
every startup. Both of the connecting DNS nos. are
unavailable using the browser.
Your thoughts are welcome. (BTW, is this still the
appropriate MS newsgroup?)
--Jeremy Stanford

  #5  
Old June 9th 04, 09:25 PM
Jeremy Stanford
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default System Restore and other problems

I'm not anonymous - I'm Jeremy Stanford.
The post above in this thread - June 9 2004 12:53PM -
should have led with my name, sorry.
--Jeremy Stanford


  #6  
Old June 9th 04, 09:45 PM
Noel Paton
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default System Restore and other problems

Jeremy
Your SSDP problems should disappear if you uninstall Universal Plug and Play
(UPNP) from Add/Remove Programs (please note that this is NOT related to
Windows PlugnPlay!!)

You are now bringing a whole new ballgame into the court - and I would
seriously suggest getting SR right, before anything else - otherwise you may
have no safety-net to fall back on.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp
"Jeremy Stanford" wrote in message
...
I'm not anonymous - I'm Jeremy Stanford.
The post above in this thread - June 9 2004 12:53PM -
should have led with my name, sorry.
--Jeremy Stanford




  #7  
Old June 10th 04, 12:05 AM
Jeremy Stanford
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default System Restore and other problems


-----Original Message-----
Jeremy
Your SSDP problems should disappear if you uninstall

Universal Plug and Play
(UPNP) from Add/Remove Programs (please note that this is

NOT related to
Windows PlugnPlay!!)


Neither UPNP nor SSDP is listed in Add/Remove Programs.
Only SSDP is listed in System Configuration Utility (SCU)
Startup, as c:\windows\system\ssdpsvr.exe De-selecting
this item does not stop explorer.exe trying to connect to
the Internet. C:\recover.exe is 'named' in SCU Startup
as 'mmsys'.

There is a 'display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv' listed in SCU
System.ini boot. And there are UPNP .dlls and .infs in

Windows/System folders.

I tried _installing_ SSDP in Add/Remove without success,
but this brought up an attempt by SSDP to connect to the
Internet.

Partial conclusion: SSDP is not yet fully installed - it
just wants to be, via the server (ssdpsvr.exe).

What is the best way to completely remove UPNP and
windows\system\ssdpsvr.exe, and anything associated?

Thanks.
P.S. will definitely do SysRestore next!
-Jeremy

You are now bringing a whole new ballgame into the court -

and I would
seriously suggest getting SR right, before anything else -

otherwise you may
have no safety-net to fall back on.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post

messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f...2001/Mar01/Mar

27pmvp.asp
"Jeremy Stanford"

wrote in message
...
I'm not anonymous - I'm Jeremy Stanford.
The post above in this thread - June 9 2004 12:53PM -
should have led with my name, sorry.
--Jeremy Stanford




.

  #10  
Old June 12th 04, 02:22 AM
Jeremy Stanford
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default System Restore and other problems

-----Original Message-----
You will find UPnP under Add/Remove Programs | Windows

Setup | Communications | Details. Uncheck, and then Apply
and reboot.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP

=====================

Thanks Mike. UPnP is now removed and unwanted dial-ups
stopped.

I'm now ready for a voyage of discovery... to find out if
my System Restore can be restored. Are you willing to play?

Some history of the problem and attempts to fix it...

This may be relevant (?) - Nine months ago I couldn't
enter Windows, no safe mode, only DOS available on
startup. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard drive by
copying it, he said. So my pc has a hidden partition,
containing my original personal files, that isn't listed
(or, apparently, identified) by Windows. Certainly, I have
listed something like half the memory available than
before, now 128MB RAM 46% free. SR worked before this
incident. But I don't know precisely when SR went duff -
it is only called up when it's needed.

The responses I get from SR are as follows:
Restore my computer to an earlier time currently no
restore points available.
Create a restore point System Restore is not able to
create a Restore Point. Please restart the computer and
run System Restore again.

Restarting always results in a repeat of the above.

Data appears to be being logged. C:\_RESTORE\LOGS contains
3 files: lastsfp.dat, vxdalt1.log and vxdsfp.log, the last
two of 1025 KBytes, all of today's date. ...\ARCHIVES
contains BKUPVXDLASTLOG files of 1025 KB up to today's
date. ...\TEMP contains many .CPY files up to today's date.
....\SFP folder is empty.

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE contains statemgr.exe and
stmgr.exe, amongst other files. Stmgr.exe is also on C:
drive (I copied it to one or other folder in a vain
gesture).

I have tried to fix SR previously... by removing H,S,R
attributes in DOS and renaming... but the automatic
replacement folder delivered the same problem, as above.

Any ideas for a solution are most welcome from all.
-Jeremy Stanford


 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 Win98banter.
The comments are property of their posters.