Windows Me+Partitions

Thanks Gentlemen

I'm just on my way out but shall be back for the fun and games later this
afternoon. I will obviously be back.

Dan

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Dan
I see that Mike has already addressed fairly comprehensively (as is usual
for Mike! g) - so I'll try these ones...answers inline
I've assumed that you are modifying a current installation, throughout -
if you're intending to start afresh, then things are easier!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Noel

As I await Mike's feedback, I downloaded the Bing Installation and
Getting Started Guide. For lack of a better word, it's a bit more geeky
than I would have preferred. I'll reread it but doubt that I will
understand any more than I do now. In the meantime, just a couple of
questions, if I may.
*I assume, with only one Operating System on each of my computers, I do
not want to enable more than 4 primary partitions. Or will that even come
up, given that I am only adding a partition(s)

There's no need to install BING at all (especially if you;'re only testing
it) - it works just as well from the floppy boot (just hit Cancel when
asked to install, and it goes into 'Maintenance Mode' - which is exactly
the same as the installed version)
You shouldn't need more than one Primary partition - plus the Extended
partition for the Logical drives that hold your data

*Do I want the partitions chosen for me

No - you'll first have to resize the existing drive/partition to a
suitable size, and then create an extended partition for the rest of the
drive - then create suitable Logical Drives within that partition

*Do I want to install Bootitng on its own partition

Not if you don't want to pay for it! g - you don't want to install it at
all, in that case!

*Do I want to format the new partition(s)

Yes - FAT32 format for Win ME

Piece of Cake!

Daunting task but appear to have survived without too much of a hitch. On my
first attempt, I didn't have mouse control which made it even more
difficult, until I got to the very end Format Summary and couldn't get
past the name. The only way out was to cancel. Elected to try again;
rebooted and this time it was obvious that the mouse had initially froze on
my first attempt. With an active mouse, I easily completed the repartition,
although I haven't as yet moved anything as I have a couple of questions.
*Is there any significance to the required name in FORMAT SUMMARY. I wasn't
sure if this meant what drive letter to associate it with so I just named it
E
*Again, in the same message box, the Format is shown as FAT-32/FAT32. I had
selected 12/Ch: FAT-32, however there was another choice listed as 11Bh:
FAT-32. Not sure of the significance, if any, but thought it prudent to ask
before transferring files over to the new partition. BTW, the machine I'm
practicing on is Win 98SE.

One last thing, having done this, I think I would like to go one step
further and make two partitions instead of one, housing all data files on
one partition and all temp stuff like Tmp, Temp, TIF and Swap File on the
other. I think it would make it easier to backup or Image for protection.
Make sense?

Thanks again for your guidance.

Dan

"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks Gentlemen

I'm just on my way out but shall be back for the fun and games later this
afternoon. I will obviously be back.

Dan

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Dan
I see that Mike has already addressed fairly comprehensively (as is usual
for Mike! g) - so I'll try these ones...answers inline
I've assumed that you are modifying a current installation, throughout -
if you're intending to start afresh, then things are easier!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Noel

As I await Mike's feedback, I downloaded the Bing Installation and
Getting Started Guide. For lack of a better word, it's a bit more geeky
than I would have preferred. I'll reread it but doubt that I will
understand any more than I do now. In the meantime, just a couple of
questions, if I may.
*I assume, with only one Operating System on each of my computers, I do
not want to enable more than 4 primary partitions. Or will that even
come up, given that I am only adding a partition(s)

There's no need to install BING at all (especially if you;'re only
testing it) - it works just as well from the floppy boot (just hit Cancel
when asked to install, and it goes into 'Maintenance Mode' - which is
exactly the same as the installed version)
You shouldn't need more than one Primary partition - plus the Extended
partition for the Logical drives that hold your data

*Do I want the partitions chosen for me

No - you'll first have to resize the existing drive/partition to a
suitable size, and then create an extended partition for the rest of the
drive - then create suitable Logical Drives within that partition

*Do I want to install Bootitng on its own partition

Not if you don't want to pay for it! g - you don't want to install it
at all, in that case!

*Do I want to format the new partition(s)

Yes - FAT32 format for Win ME

Looks like I'm going to need more help, afterall.

Decided to proceed without response but something isn't right. Relocated MY
DOCUMENTS to D via Desktop Properties but appear to have lost the contents.
In the Target Folder location I simply changed the target from C:\My
Documents to D:\My Documents.

I'm not sure I understand the instruction re using TweakUI to move Desktop,
Favourites, My Music etc. i.e. DO NOT HAVE 2 DIFFERENT SPECIAL FOLDERS
POINTING TO THE SAME LOCATION. Am I simply not just highlighting any one of
those in the dropdown menu and clicking on CHANGE ?

Lastly, I don't have a TEMP and/or TMP in my autoexec so how would I do this
in Notepad

Thanks




"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Piece of Cake!

Daunting task but appear to have survived without too much of a hitch. On
my first attempt, I didn't have mouse control which made it even more
difficult, until I got to the very end Format Summary and couldn't get
past the name. The only way out was to cancel. Elected to try again;
rebooted and this time it was obvious that the mouse had initially froze
on my first attempt. With an active mouse, I easily completed the
repartition, although I haven't as yet moved anything as I have a couple
of questions.
*Is there any significance to the required name in FORMAT SUMMARY. I
wasn't sure if this meant what drive letter to associate it with so I just
named it E
*Again, in the same message box, the Format is shown as FAT-32/FAT32. I
had selected 12/Ch: FAT-32, however there was another choice listed as
11Bh: FAT-32. Not sure of the significance, if any, but thought it prudent
to ask before transferring files over to the new partition. BTW, the
machine I'm practicing on is Win 98SE.

One last thing, having done this, I think I would like to go one step
further and make two partitions instead of one, housing all data files on
one partition and all temp stuff like Tmp, Temp, TIF and Swap File on the
other. I think it would make it easier to backup or Image for protection.
Make sense?

Thanks again for your guidance.

Dan

"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks Gentlemen

I'm just on my way out but shall be back for the fun and games later this
afternoon. I will obviously be back.

Dan

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Dan
I see that Mike has already addressed fairly comprehensively (as is
usual for Mike! g) - so I'll try these ones...answers inline
I've assumed that you are modifying a current installation, throughout -
if you're intending to start afresh, then things are easier!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Noel

As I await Mike's feedback, I downloaded the Bing Installation and
Getting Started Guide. For lack of a better word, it's a bit more geeky
than I would have preferred. I'll reread it but doubt that I will
understand any more than I do now. In the meantime, just a couple of
questions, if I may.
*I assume, with only one Operating System on each of my computers, I do
not want to enable more than 4 primary partitions. Or will that even
come up, given that I am only adding a partition(s)

There's no need to install BING at all (especially if you;'re only
testing it) - it works just as well from the floppy boot (just hit
Cancel when asked to install, and it goes into 'Maintenance Mode' -
which is exactly the same as the installed version)
You shouldn't need more than one Primary partition - plus the Extended
partition for the Logical drives that hold your data

*Do I want the partitions chosen for me

No - you'll first have to resize the existing drive/partition to a
suitable size, and then create an extended partition for the rest of
the drive - then create suitable Logical Drives within that partition

*Do I want to install Bootitng on its own partition

Not if you don't want to pay for it! g - you don't want to install it
at all, in that case!

*Do I want to format the new partition(s)

Yes - FAT32 format for Win ME

Decided to proceed without response

I wasn't aware that a response was necessary. I thought your only
question was about making two new partitions for different purposes,
something I had already mentioned in an earlier message.

Decided to proceed without response but something isn't right.
Relocated MY DOCUMENTS to D via Desktop Properties but appear to have
lost the contents. In the Target Folder location I simply changed the
target from C:\My Documents to D:\My Documents.

Did you use the Move button? If not and you simply created a new location
your existing files will still be in the original location and will need
to be moved manually. The old location is C:\My Documents, the files
still be there.

I'm not sure I understand the instruction re using TweakUI to move
Desktop, Favourites, My Music etc. i.e. DO NOT HAVE 2 DIFFERENT
SPECIAL FOLDERS POINTING TO THE SAME LOCATION.

Do not have two different special folders in the same location means just
that. For example DO NOT have My Videos = D:\Media and My Music also
pointing to D:\Media, in other words the same folder.

Am I simply not just
highlighting any one of those in the dropdown menu and clicking on
CHANGE ?

Select the folder you wish to relocate in the drop down box, click Change
Location and enter the new location. Note that any files in the old
location won't be moved, you will have to do that manually. I would not
recommend modifying the locations for Program Files or Common Program
Files as the C:\ location is often hard coded in to the program modules
and also for programs that are already installed there will be many
registry entries pointing to the original location.
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

Looks like I'm going to need more help, afterall.

Decided to proceed without response but something isn't right.
Relocated MY DOCUMENTS to D via Desktop Properties but appear to have
lost the contents. In the Target Folder location I simply changed the
target from C:\My Documents to D:\My Documents.

I'm not sure I understand the instruction re using TweakUI to move
Desktop, Favourites, My Music etc. i.e. DO NOT HAVE 2 DIFFERENT
SPECIAL FOLDERS POINTING TO THE SAME LOCATION. Am I simply not just
highlighting any one of those in the dropdown menu and clicking on
CHANGE ?
Lastly, I don't have a TEMP and/or TMP in my autoexec so how would I
do this in Notepad

Thanks




"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Piece of Cake!

Daunting task but appear to have survived without too much of a
hitch. On my first attempt, I didn't have mouse control which made
it even more difficult, until I got to the very end Format Summary
and couldn't get past the name. The only way out was to cancel.
Elected to try again; rebooted and this time it was obvious that the
mouse had initially froze on my first attempt. With an active mouse,
I easily completed the repartition, although I haven't as yet moved
anything as I have a couple of questions.
*Is there any significance to the required name in FORMAT SUMMARY. I
wasn't sure if this meant what drive letter to associate it with so
I just named it E
*Again, in the same message box, the Format is shown as
FAT-32/FAT32. I had selected 12/Ch: FAT-32, however there was
another choice listed as 11Bh: FAT-32. Not sure of the significance,
if any, but thought it prudent to ask before transferring files over
to the new partition. BTW, the machine I'm practicing on is Win 98SE.

One last thing, having done this, I think I would like to go one step
further and make two partitions instead of one, housing all data
files on one partition and all temp stuff like Tmp, Temp, TIF and
Swap File on the other. I think it would make it easier to backup or
Image for protection. Make sense?

Thanks again for your guidance.

Dan

"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks Gentlemen

I'm just on my way out but shall be back for the fun and games
later this afternoon. I will obviously be back.

Dan

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Dan
I see that Mike has already addressed fairly comprehensively (as is
usual for Mike! g) - so I'll try these ones...answers inline
I've assumed that you are modifying a current installation,
throughout - if you're intending to start afresh, then things are
easier! --
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to NG's
"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Noel

As I await Mike's feedback, I downloaded the Bing Installation and
Getting Started Guide. For lack of a better word, it's a bit more
geeky than I would have preferred. I'll reread it but doubt that
I will understand any more than I do now. In the meantime, just a
couple of questions, if I may.
*I assume, with only one Operating System on each of my
computers, I do not want to enable more than 4 primary
partitions. Or will that even come up, given that I am only
adding a partition(s)

There's no need to install BING at all (especially if you;'re only
testing it) - it works just as well from the floppy boot (just hit
Cancel when asked to install, and it goes into 'Maintenance Mode' -
which is exactly the same as the installed version)
You shouldn't need more than one Primary partition - plus the
Extended partition for the Logical drives that hold your data

*Do I want the partitions chosen for me

No - you'll first have to resize the existing drive/partition to a
suitable size, and then create an extended partition for the rest
of the drive - then create suitable Logical Drives within that
partition
*Do I want to install Bootitng on its own partition

Not if you don't want to pay for it! g - you don't want to
install it at all, in that case!

*Do I want to format the new partition(s)

Yes - FAT32 format for Win ME

No problem Mike. I should have been a little clearer yesterday. In the end I
didn't create a third partition because I wasn't sure about where it should
go, whether all the temp/swap stuff should be in the second partition or if
it matters at all.

Thanks for the clarification re My Documents. I didn't see a MOVE button; I
just changed the target from C: to D:

I now understand re Special Folders. I just wondered if it meant something
else because it was obvious that nothing would be in the newly created
partition until I put it there. With respect to this item, for some reason
I'm having to go into the D and make new folders so that I can fully target
the location.

One other thing, I'm curious as to why under C:, these Folders (Desktop for
example) show as C:\Windows\Desktop whereas under the new partition they are
simply showing as D:\Desktop

Thanks
"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Decided to proceed without response

I wasn't aware that a response was necessary. I thought your only
question was about making two new partitions for different purposes,
something I had already mentioned in an earlier message.

Decided to proceed without response but something isn't right.
Relocated MY DOCUMENTS to D via Desktop Properties but appear to have
lost the contents. In the Target Folder location I simply changed the
target from C:\My Documents to D:\My Documents.

Did you use the Move button? If not and you simply created a new location
your existing files will still be in the original location and will need
to be moved manually. The old location is C:\My Documents, the files
still be there.

I'm not sure I understand the instruction re using TweakUI to move
Desktop, Favourites, My Music etc. i.e. DO NOT HAVE 2 DIFFERENT
SPECIAL FOLDERS POINTING TO THE SAME LOCATION.

Do not have two different special folders in the same location means just
that. For example DO NOT have My Videos = D:\Media and My Music also
pointing to D:\Media, in other words the same folder.

Am I simply not just
highlighting any one of those in the dropdown menu and clicking on
CHANGE ?

Select the folder you wish to relocate in the drop down box, click Change
Location and enter the new location. Note that any files in the old
location won't be moved, you will have to do that manually. I would not
recommend modifying the locations for Program Files or Common Program
Files as the C:\ location is often hard coded in to the program modules
and also for programs that are already installed there will be many
registry entries pointing to the original location.
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

Looks like I'm going to need more help, afterall.

Decided to proceed without response but something isn't right.
Relocated MY DOCUMENTS to D via Desktop Properties but appear to have
lost the contents. In the Target Folder location I simply changed the
target from C:\My Documents to D:\My Documents.

I'm not sure I understand the instruction re using TweakUI to move
Desktop, Favourites, My Music etc. i.e. DO NOT HAVE 2 DIFFERENT
SPECIAL FOLDERS POINTING TO THE SAME LOCATION. Am I simply not just
highlighting any one of those in the dropdown menu and clicking on
CHANGE ?
Lastly, I don't have a TEMP and/or TMP in my autoexec so how would I
do this in Notepad

Thanks




"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Piece of Cake!

Daunting task but appear to have survived without too much of a
hitch. On my first attempt, I didn't have mouse control which made
it even more difficult, until I got to the very end Format Summary
and couldn't get past the name. The only way out was to cancel.
Elected to try again; rebooted and this time it was obvious that the
mouse had initially froze on my first attempt. With an active mouse,
I easily completed the repartition, although I haven't as yet moved
anything as I have a couple of questions.
*Is there any significance to the required name in FORMAT SUMMARY. I
wasn't sure if this meant what drive letter to associate it with so
I just named it E
*Again, in the same message box, the Format is shown as
FAT-32/FAT32. I had selected 12/Ch: FAT-32, however there was
another choice listed as 11Bh: FAT-32. Not sure of the significance,
if any, but thought it prudent to ask before transferring files over
to the new partition. BTW, the machine I'm practicing on is Win 98SE.

One last thing, having done this, I think I would like to go one step
further and make two partitions instead of one, housing all data
files on one partition and all temp stuff like Tmp, Temp, TIF and
Swap File on the other. I think it would make it easier to backup or
Image for protection. Make sense?

Thanks again for your guidance.

Dan

"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks Gentlemen

I'm just on my way out but shall be back for the fun and games
later this afternoon. I will obviously be back.

Dan

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Dan
I see that Mike has already addressed fairly comprehensively (as is
usual for Mike! g) - so I'll try these ones...answers inline
I've assumed that you are modifying a current installation,
throughout - if you're intending to start afresh, then things are
easier! --
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to NG's
"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Noel

As I await Mike's feedback, I downloaded the Bing Installation and
Getting Started Guide. For lack of a better word, it's a bit more
geeky than I would have preferred. I'll reread it but doubt that
I will understand any more than I do now. In the meantime, just a
couple of questions, if I may.
*I assume, with only one Operating System on each of my
computers, I do not want to enable more than 4 primary
partitions. Or will that even come up, given that I am only
adding a partition(s)

There's no need to install BING at all (especially if you;'re only
testing it) - it works just as well from the floppy boot (just hit
Cancel when asked to install, and it goes into 'Maintenance Mode' -
which is exactly the same as the installed version)
You shouldn't need more than one Primary partition - plus the
Extended partition for the Logical drives that hold your data

*Do I want the partitions chosen for me

No - you'll first have to resize the existing drive/partition to a
suitable size, and then create an extended partition for the rest
of the drive - then create suitable Logical Drives within that
partition
*Do I want to install Bootitng on its own partition

Not if you don't want to pay for it! g - you don't want to
install it at all, in that case!

*Do I want to format the new partition(s)

Yes - FAT32 format for Win ME

for some reason I'm having to go into the D and make new
folders so that I can fully target the location.

Dan,

The problem here is that TweakUI doesn't allow you to create new folders
but rather will only allow you to point at pre-existing folders.

One other thing, I'm curious as to why under C:, these Folders
(Desktop for example) show as C:\Windows\Desktop whereas under the
new partition they are simply showing as D:\Desktop

Simply because that's where Microsoft chose to place them. g It is that
very predictability that increases the possibility of some of them being
targeted although the 8 random characters used for the sub-folders in the
TIF are an attempt to reduce that vulnerability.
My Documents C:\My Documents with My Pictures and My Music being
sub-folders.
Desktop C:\Windows\Desktop
Temp & Tmp C:\Windows\Temp
TIF C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files
OE Message store C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Identities\{GUID}

You seem to be doing great. You will end up with a leaner and therefore
somewhat faster system drive when you've finished and you will also find
making backups and/or image files a lot easier and perhaps also quicker.

Cheers.
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

No problem Mike. I should have been a little clearer yesterday. In
the end I didn't create a third partition because I wasn't sure about
where it should go, whether all the temp/swap stuff should be in the
second partition or if it matters at all.

Thanks for the clarification re My Documents. I didn't see a MOVE
button; I just changed the target from C: to D:

I now understand re Special Folders. I just wondered if it meant
something else because it was obvious that nothing would be in the
newly created partition until I put it there. With respect to this
item, for some reason I'm having to go into the D and make new
folders so that I can fully target the location.

One other thing, I'm curious as to why under C:, these Folders
(Desktop for example) show as C:\Windows\Desktop whereas under the
new partition they are simply showing as D:\Desktop

Thanks Mike.
The only things I couldn't transfer over were TMP and TEMP due to not
understanding how to do it in Notepad.
I imagine it's now safe to delete those folders that were copied over from
the C partition to similar folders in D (My Desktop, Favourites, and My
Files). I may have to rearrange a few things because in the transfer, all my
Utility downloads (AdAware, Adobe, Avast etc) got moved whereas I think that
it's probably more fitting for those to stay in C.

I'll play around with this over the next few days to make sure files are in
fact being saved where they should be and then I'll tackle the Win Me
laptop. I still have an outstanding question relating to this and that is
when I repartition it, how do I handle the existing D partition which I
think holds the Recovery system? Do I ignore it and go from C to E or does
it automatically move D to E?

Really appreciate your guidance. Thank you.

Dan
"Mike M" wrote in message
...
for some reason I'm having to go into the D and make new
folders so that I can fully target the location.

Dan,

The problem here is that TweakUI doesn't allow you to create new folders
but rather will only allow you to point at pre-existing folders.

One other thing, I'm curious as to why under C:, these Folders
(Desktop for example) show as C:\Windows\Desktop whereas under the
new partition they are simply showing as D:\Desktop

Simply because that's where Microsoft chose to place them. g It is that
very predictability that increases the possibility of some of them being
targeted although the 8 random characters used for the sub-folders in the
TIF are an attempt to reduce that vulnerability.
My Documents C:\My Documents with My Pictures and My Music being
sub-folders.
Desktop C:\Windows\Desktop
Temp & Tmp C:\Windows\Temp
TIF C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files
OE Message store C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Identities\{GUID}

You seem to be doing great. You will end up with a leaner and therefore
somewhat faster system drive when you've finished and you will also find
making backups and/or image files a lot easier and perhaps also quicker.

Cheers.
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

No problem Mike. I should have been a little clearer yesterday. In
the end I didn't create a third partition because I wasn't sure about
where it should go, whether all the temp/swap stuff should be in the
second partition or if it matters at all.

Thanks for the clarification re My Documents. I didn't see a MOVE
button; I just changed the target from C: to D:

I now understand re Special Folders. I just wondered if it meant
something else because it was obvious that nothing would be in the
newly created partition until I put it there. With respect to this
item, for some reason I'm having to go into the D and make new
folders so that I can fully target the location.

One other thing, I'm curious as to why under C:, these Folders
(Desktop for example) show as C:\Windows\Desktop whereas under the
new partition they are simply showing as D:\Desktop

I still have an outstanding question relating to this
and that is when I repartition it, how do I handle the existing D
partition which I think holds the Recovery system?

Dan,

With considerable care. So much so that I'd be very careful about
changing the partition layout. (Fortunately) I have virtually no
experience of such recovery systems. The laptop I bought last summer had
such a partition but it contained material that could then be burned to
DVD (or CDs) after which it could be deleted. I doubt however that if I
had to reinstall the OS on that laptop that I would use that recovery disk
but instead am more likely to clean install the OS using one of the spare
licences I own and so avoid any possible problem with the recovery disks
expecting to see a particular partition layout.

To answer your specific query I would not only need to know the make and
model of your laptop but also have some experience of the manufacturer's
method of working. Something I regret that I am most unlikely to have.
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

Thanks Mike.
The only things I couldn't transfer over were TMP and TEMP due to not
understanding how to do it in Notepad.
I imagine it's now safe to delete those folders that were copied over
from the C partition to similar folders in D (My Desktop, Favourites,
and My Files). I may have to rearrange a few things because in the
transfer, all my Utility downloads (AdAware, Adobe, Avast etc) got
moved whereas I think that it's probably more fitting for those to
stay in C.
I'll play around with this over the next few days to make sure files
are in fact being saved where they should be and then I'll tackle the
Win Me laptop. I still have an outstanding question relating to this
and that is when I repartition it, how do I handle the existing D
partition which I think holds the Recovery system? Do I ignore it and
go from C to E or does it automatically move D to E?

Really appreciate your guidance. Thank you.

I hear you, Mike. I will tread carefully and avoid the D: partition
altogether.

I recently reformatted and did a clean install via new Recovery Discs
purchased from HP/Compaq. This is a Compaq Presario laptop, model 1200 CA.
It's 800 MHz with a 10 GB hard drive, partitioned as follows;
MBR Entry 0 Partition 6793 MB Fat-32 (11/Bh)
MBR Entry 1 Partition 2793 MB Extended (15/Fh)
System_S Volume 2793 MB Fat-32 (12/Ch)

There's a warning that the file id should be 11 on the 3rd entry (System_S).
BTW, when I scan or defrag, the system show only the first and third
partition.

Hope this is sufficient feedback for you to provide additional guidance. If
not, were you suggesting not to repartition the laptop or were you simply
saying not to mess with the existing D:

Last thing, I still don't know how to handle the TMP and TEMP problem via
autoexec.

Thanks
"Mike M" wrote in message
...
I still have an outstanding question relating to this
and that is when I repartition it, how do I handle the existing D
partition which I think holds the Recovery system?

Dan,

With considerable care. So much so that I'd be very careful about
changing the partition layout. (Fortunately) I have virtually no
experience of such recovery systems. The laptop I bought last summer had
such a partition but it contained material that could then be burned to
DVD (or CDs) after which it could be deleted. I doubt however that if I
had to reinstall the OS on that laptop that I would use that recovery disk
but instead am more likely to clean install the OS using one of the spare
licences I own and so avoid any possible problem with the recovery disks
expecting to see a particular partition layout.

To answer your specific query I would not only need to know the make and
model of your laptop but also have some experience of the manufacturer's
method of working. Something I regret that I am most unlikely to have.
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

Thanks Mike.
The only things I couldn't transfer over were TMP and TEMP due to not
understanding how to do it in Notepad.
I imagine it's now safe to delete those folders that were copied over
from the C partition to similar folders in D (My Desktop, Favourites,
and My Files). I may have to rearrange a few things because in the
transfer, all my Utility downloads (AdAware, Adobe, Avast etc) got
moved whereas I think that it's probably more fitting for those to
stay in C.
I'll play around with this over the next few days to make sure files
are in fact being saved where they should be and then I'll tackle the
Win Me laptop. I still have an outstanding question relating to this
and that is when I repartition it, how do I handle the existing D
partition which I think holds the Recovery system? Do I ignore it and
go from C to E or does it automatically move D to E?

Really appreciate your guidance. Thank you.

Dan,

Repeating my earlier post, I'm sorry but I can't and won't comment further
on how you should arrange the partition layout on your laptop as I have
zero experience or knowledge of how Compaq may have arranged their
recovery system and how when used this recovery system may then interact
with a different layout.

Turning to the partition listing you posted. The second entry if that of
an extended partition and this will never appear as such in Windows
Explorer, only any volumes that the partition contains such as the Volume
entry in your list. If the size of the volumes in an extended partition
total less than the size of the extended partition this would appear as
unallocated space. In your case the Volume System_S occupies the entire
extended partition.

Last thing, I still don't know how to handle the TMP and TEMP problem
via autoexec.

As I mentioned in an earlier post all that is involved is to replace the
default target for the TMP and TEMP variables in autoexec.bat with the
required location. For example you may want to use a folder E:\Temp as
the target instead of C:\Windows\Temp in which case you would replace the
entries
SET TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
SET TMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
by
SET TEMP=E:\TEMP
SET TMP=E:\TEMP
This would then redirect applications using the TEMP or TMP environment
variables to create their temporary files in the folder E:\Temp. Note
however that some applications have the location C:\Windows\Temp hard
coded in them meaning that such applications will always use the
C:\Windows\Temp folder regardless of the settings for TEMP and TMP.
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

I hear you, Mike. I will tread carefully and avoid the D: partition
altogether.

I recently reformatted and did a clean install via new Recovery Discs
purchased from HP/Compaq. This is a Compaq Presario laptop, model
1200 CA. It's 800 MHz with a 10 GB hard drive, partitioned as follows;
MBR Entry 0 Partition 6793 MB Fat-32 (11/Bh)
MBR Entry 1 Partition 2793 MB Extended (15/Fh)
System_S Volume 2793 MB Fat-32 (12/Ch)

There's a warning that the file id should be 11 on the 3rd entry
(System_S). BTW, when I scan or defrag, the system show only the
first and third partition.

Hope this is sufficient feedback for you to provide additional
guidance. If not, were you suggesting not to repartition the laptop
or were you simply saying not to mess with the existing D:

Last thing, I still don't know how to handle the TMP and TEMP problem
via autoexec.