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Old February 6th 06, 11:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Is there a way of relocating the

C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\

and/or the

C:\WINDOWS\Installer\

folders off of C drive onto another partition/drive.

I have 'trimmed' my C drive down to just an OS drive (~700Mb occupied
excluding SR), all data and temp dirs are located on different
partions/drives.

The app data & installer dirs don't seem (to me) to be OS specific, more
related to applications than the OS, and I would like to move them as
well. Tweak UI doesn't appear to let me move these.

Is there a way ?

Registry editing doesn't faze me.
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Old February 6th 06, 11:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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The Application Data folder appears to be hard-coded at its default
location - at least I've tried to find a way to relocate it, and it doesn;t
want to know
I've never tried with the Installer folder.......
Hmmmm - there are no in the registry which look promising...
You'd need to point installer package entries to the new place anyhow, as
each installed package has a registry entry - which points to the conclusion
that the location is coded into the installer itself rather than the OS.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"Doc" ] wrote in message
...
Is there a way of relocating the

C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\

and/or the

C:\WINDOWS\Installer\

folders off of C drive onto another partition/drive.

I have 'trimmed' my C drive down to just an OS drive (~700Mb occupied
excluding SR), all data and temp dirs are located on different
partions/drives.

The app data & installer dirs don't seem (to me) to be OS specific, more
related to applications than the OS, and I would like to move them as
well. Tweak UI doesn't appear to let me move these.

Is there a way ?

Registry editing doesn't faze me.



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Old February 6th 06, 07:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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"Noel Paton" wrote in
:

The Application Data folder appears to be hard-coded at its default
location - at least I've tried to find a way to relocate it, and it
doesn;t want to know
I've never tried with the Installer folder.......
Hmmmm - there are no in the registry which look promising...
You'd need to point installer package entries to the new place anyhow,
as each installed package has a registry entry - which points to the
conclusion that the location is coded into the installer itself rather
than the OS.


Thanks Noel, same conclusions I had come to.
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Old February 6th 06, 09:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Xteq (Dotec) X-Setup moves the Applications folder. Look for 6.6 - the last
freeware version. When the Classic UI is up, go to System | File System |
Folders | Data | General Folders #1 | Program Data

I have done this (in 98SE, ME and XP) and it works. I've also tested X-Setup
over several years and consider it safe (I mean, safer than TweakUI 1.33!).

Like Noel, I've never tried moving the Installer location.


Shane

"Doc" ] wrote in message
...
"Noel Paton" wrote in
:

The Application Data folder appears to be hard-coded at its default
location - at least I've tried to find a way to relocate it, and it
doesn;t want to know
I've never tried with the Installer folder.......
Hmmmm - there are no in the registry which look promising...
You'd need to point installer package entries to the new place anyhow,
as each installed package has a registry entry - which points to the
conclusion that the location is coded into the installer itself rather
than the OS.


Thanks Noel, same conclusions I had come to.



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Old February 6th 06, 09:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Shane - does Xteq also move the location of the Application Data folder for
newly installed applications? (which is always going to be the major
problem)
My earlier findings with the A-D folder were that there was no simple way to
redirect the content with any guarantee of success for anything except
perhaps the existing apps (and that was problematic!)

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Shane" wrote in message
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Xteq (Dotec) X-Setup moves the Applications folder. Look for 6.6 - the
last freeware version. When the Classic UI is up, go to System | File
System | Folders | Data | General Folders #1 | Program Data

I have done this (in 98SE, ME and XP) and it works. I've also tested
X-Setup over several years and consider it safe (I mean, safer than
TweakUI 1.33!).

Like Noel, I've never tried moving the Installer location.


Shane

"Doc" ] wrote in message
...
"Noel Paton" wrote in
:

The Application Data folder appears to be hard-coded at its default
location - at least I've tried to find a way to relocate it, and it
doesn;t want to know
I've never tried with the Installer folder.......
Hmmmm - there are no in the registry which look promising...
You'd need to point installer package entries to the new place anyhow,
as each installed package has a registry entry - which points to the
conclusion that the location is coded into the installer itself rather
than the OS.


Thanks Noel, same conclusions I had come to.





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Old February 7th 06, 12:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Noel,

I don't know, not conclusively. I haven't seen evidence to the contrary, but
maybe I do this one when just about everything I might install, has been
already. Certainly - as you say, it redirects for existing apps. It also
redirects for the subsequently installed apps that I have tested.

And the shell folder registry value stays changed, but that doesn't, of
course, mean there aren't some apps that have the location hard-wired, and
don't read it from the registry.

I should think - if the procedure isn't flawless - it would depend on why
one wants to do it as to whether or not it would be worth it. I'd say it is
if you want to do it to move stuff off C: and most-but-not-all is better
than none, and it is if you want, eg Office app data elsewhere. For a while
I shared Outlook's App Data folder between all three systems, so if that's
what you want, go for it!

Since you raise the question, I feel I should test it further (tomorrow).
What do you mean by 'problematic'? I haven't found any problems, but maybe
I'm not looking in the right place.

Shane

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Shane - does Xteq also move the location of the Application Data folder
for newly installed applications? (which is always going to be the major
problem)
My earlier findings with the A-D folder were that there was no simple way
to redirect the content with any guarantee of success for anything except
perhaps the existing apps (and that was problematic!)

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Shane" wrote in message
...
Xteq (Dotec) X-Setup moves the Applications folder. Look for 6.6 - the
last freeware version. When the Classic UI is up, go to System | File
System | Folders | Data | General Folders #1 | Program Data

I have done this (in 98SE, ME and XP) and it works. I've also tested
X-Setup over several years and consider it safe (I mean, safer than
TweakUI 1.33!).

Like Noel, I've never tried moving the Installer location.


Shane

"Doc" ] wrote in message
...
"Noel Paton" wrote in
:

The Application Data folder appears to be hard-coded at its default
location - at least I've tried to find a way to relocate it, and it
doesn;t want to know
I've never tried with the Installer folder.......
Hmmmm - there are no in the registry which look promising...
You'd need to point installer package entries to the new place anyhow,
as each installed package has a registry entry - which points to the
conclusion that the location is coded into the installer itself rather
than the OS.


Thanks Noel, same conclusions I had come to.







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Old February 7th 06, 04:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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This may not add much to the thread, but you may get something out of
my musings.

You can change the value of AppData (and perhaps Local Appdata) in the
Registry

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Shell
Folders

and possibly
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\User
Shell Folders

and the value of Common AppData in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Explorer\Shell
Folders

You may also have to look at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\ProfileReconciliation\AppData
(as I am not sure of the significance)

IMHO, Noel's cautious note is correct. You cannot guarantee that
applications use the Registry keys, so even changing existing keys may
not work.

....Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows -Internet Explorer
http://dts-l.org/index.html

On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:04:44 GMT, Doc ] wrote:

Is there a way of relocating the

C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\

and/or the

C:\WINDOWS\Installer\

folders off of C drive onto another partition/drive.

I have 'trimmed' my C drive down to just an OS drive (~700Mb occupied
excluding SR), all data and temp dirs are located on different
partions/drives.

The app data & installer dirs don't seem (to me) to be OS specific, more
related to applications than the OS, and I would like to move them as
well. Tweak UI doesn't appear to let me move these.

Is there a way ?

Registry editing doesn't faze me.

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Old February 9th 06, 11:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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"Shane" wrote in
:

Xteq (Dotec) X-Setup moves the Applications folder. Look for 6.6 - the
last freeware version. When the Classic UI is up, go to System | File
System | Folders | Data | General Folders #1 | Program Data


Thanks Shane. I downloaded X-Setup and it works a treat. Another 30Mb out
of my "OS" partition.


Like Noel, I've never tried moving the Installer location.


Yep, I can't seem to 'move' it either. I rarely seem to need 'installer'
files, just the occasional 'repair'. I have manually moved them to a
different partition. Hopefully, if I ever need to reference them for a
repair or uninstall then I will be able to point the repairer/uninstaller
to the new folder. Otherwise I shall just copy the required installer
file back to the C:appropriate folder.


Shane

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Old February 9th 06, 11:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Alan Edwards wrote in
:

Thanks Alan .... comments inline

This may not add much to the thread, but you may get something out of
my musings.

You can change the value of AppData (and perhaps Local Appdata) in the
Registry

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Sh
ell Folders


used Xteq X-Setup, ok


and possibly
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Us
er Shell Folders


used Xteq X-Setup, ok


and the value of Common AppData in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Explorer\S
hell Folders

Keeps reverting back to C:\WINDOWS\All Users\Application Data


IMHO, Noel's cautious note is correct. You cannot guarantee that
applications use the Registry keys, so even changing existing keys may
not work.


You may also have to look at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\ProfileReco
nciliation\AppData (as I am not sure of the significance)


Might hold an answer to future installs .. contains the following key

CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVer sion
\ProfileReconciliation\AppData

and the value

DefaultDir = *windir\Application Data


After my next OS image I will change this value to H:\Application Data
and report back, after doing an install that uses 'Application Data',
whether it seems to be hardwired in the app or not.

...Alan


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Old February 9th 06, 11:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Doc ] wrote in news:GYEGf.139506$vH5.1151270
@news.xtra.co.nz:


You can change the value of AppData (and perhaps Local Appdata) in the
Registry

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Sh
ell Folders


used Xteq X-Setup, ok


for AppData, not for Local AppData.
 




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