Wipe free space

The CD is
outdoors, in the 'trash', albeit in a bag that contains no organic
waste (and which I've already been down once to retrieve an old copy
of another prog!).

Been there, done that! Dump something because you don't need/ever use it
and five minutes later you're digging in the rubbish to recover it. g
--
Mike Maltby



Shane wrote:

Dan,


There seem to be a spate of coincidences here lately! One is that I
found the
cover disc CD I originally got DestroyIt!2000 from, back in 2000/1.
Besides having long-since realised there's no need to overwrite
freespace - except perhaps in the situation you describe - I found that
it was
one of those progs that stopped SR working. I remember reporting it
to Mike - probably in systemtools.

How good it is, I don't know. I thought it was good at the time but
that's almost meaningless, I knew so little then! Presumably it does
work since it stopped SR working because basically it writes a series of
files to the HDD, which are
deleted on reboot. Only in doing so free space goes below the
critical 300MB required for SR, which then flushes and turns itself
off. For Win ME, for a user wishing to use SR, DestroyIt!2000 was a
prog written for Win 98 that dated rapidly! Of course, if one is
getting rid of ME it doesn't matter if one flushes
the RPs.

Whether you could find DestroyIt!2000 now, I don't know. Whether it's
small enough to e-mail to you via dial-up, I don't know. The CD is
outdoors, in the 'trash', albeit in a bag that contains no organic
waste (and which I've already been down once to retrieve an old copy
of another prog!).

Mike M wrote:
Alias wrote:

You can use the floppy download from your hard drive manufacturer's
web site to write zeros on the drive. It takes hours.

And will, of course, wipe everything rather than just the free space
which as I understand it is Dan's requirement.

Oh, if that's the case, my help was no help.

Alias

Thanks for the offer Shane but I think I'll go the ERASER route. I wouldn't
want your neighbours seeing you go through the trash, they might get the
wrong impression vbg.


"Shane" wrote in message
...
Dan,


There seem to be a spate of coincidences here lately! One is that I found
the
cover disc CD I originally got DestroyIt!2000 from, back in 2000/1.
Besides
having long-since realised there's no need to overwrite freespace -
except perhaps in the situation you describe - I found that it was one of
those progs that stopped SR working. I remember reporting it to Mike -
probably in systemtools.

How good it is, I don't know. I thought it was good at the time but that's
almost meaningless, I knew so little then! Presumably it does work
since it stopped SR working because basically it writes a series of files
to the HDD, which are
deleted on reboot. Only in doing so free space goes below the critical
300MB
required for SR, which then flushes and turns itself off. For Win ME, for
a
user wishing to use SR, DestroyIt!2000 was a prog written for Win 98 that
dated rapidly! Of course, if one is getting rid of ME it doesn't matter if
one flushes
the RPs.

Whether you could find DestroyIt!2000 now, I don't know. Whether it's
small
enough to e-mail to you via dial-up, I don't know. The CD is outdoors, in
the 'trash', albeit in a bag that contains no organic
waste (and which I've already been down once to retrieve an old copy of
another prog!).

Shane


Dapper Dan wrote:
Thanks Mike.

I think I'll experiment this weekend. It's not like I have much to
lose given it no longer gets used. If something stupid happens, I can
always repartition; it's just that because it's an OEM, I have no
disks to reload.
Regards

Dan


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Dapper Dan wrote:

Thanks Mart. I started out via the Google route, but before
downloading and using one I thought it prudent to ask. I'm ready to
experiment but if I can use someone else's experience, it may save
me a lot of aggravation.
Thanks again Mart, I appreciate your help.

Sorry I can't help Dan other than to suggest using Google which you
have already done. I've used BING to write zeros to entire drives
but have never attempted to do this to unused parts of a partition
where I want to retain the files. Defragging the drive doesn't
really seem to help either as I have found in the past that I have
been able to recover deleted files where the drive has subsequently
been defragged albeit that was on a system where the file system was
NTFS. --
Mike Maltby

Dan - (and anyone else who has been following this thread), it would appear
that the url I posted yesterday has 'vanished' this morning.

However, if you're still interested, I've found it (currently!) available at
the author's site :-
http://www.tolvanen.com/eraser/
and note that is now version 5.3 (Feb 3, 2007).

Still untried and untested - at least by me! g

Good luck

Mart



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Dan, try Googling. The first hit I came across was Eraser at :-
http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/download.php

Never tried it so don't know how effective it is - but it is FREE

Mart


"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
In preparation of donating an old computer, I'm interested in permanently
wiping free disk space. Any recommendations for a good free utility that
not only shreds files but also wipes available free space.

Thanks in advance and Happy Easter.

Dan

Ooops.. The plot thickens.

Seems that version 5.3 was dated Jan 7, 2002 - not 2007 as I had indicated.
Looks like SoundForge and/or Garret Trant *may* have pulled.

I'll leave it to you guy's to sort it out g

Mart


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Dan - (and anyone else who has been following this thread), it would
appear that the url I posted yesterday has 'vanished' this morning.

However, if you're still interested, I've found it (currently!) available
at the author's site :-
http://www.tolvanen.com/eraser/
and note that is now version 5.3 (Feb 3, 2007).

Still untried and untested - at least by me! g

Good luck

Mart



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Dan, try Googling. The first hit I came across was Eraser at :-
http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/download.php

Never tried it so don't know how effective it is - but it is FREE

Mart


"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
In preparation of donating an old computer, I'm interested in
permanently wiping free disk space. Any recommendations for a good free
utility that not only shreds files but also wipes available free space.

Thanks in advance and Happy Easter.

Dan

Mart

I downloaded Eraser 5.82 yesterday from www.heidi.ie/eraser. It actually ran
like a charm, no problems whatsoever. I put the computer in a CLEAN BOOT
environment in order to ensure that nothing was open in the background and
initially wiped the unused space in a separate partition. Once done and
satisfied that it hadn't wiped everything, I then wiped unused space on my
C: drive. Given my relatively small 8 GB harddrive, it only took about an
hour to complete.

Interestingly, I also downloaded BC Wipe 3.10.4 by Jetico. It provided a 41
day free trial, and it too ran without a problem wiping unused space on
another partition.

As indicated I was only interested in wiping unused space, so I only read
the section related to this. In both cases all that was required was to
right click on a drive or partition and select either ERASE unused space
(ERASER) or Wipe free space with BC Wipe. However both utilities require a
lot more reading in order to familiarize oneself with the numerous options
available.

Again I want to thank you, and everyone else who have contributed, for your
continued support, it is much appreciated.

Happy Easter

Dan
"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ooops.. The plot thickens.

Seems that version 5.3 was dated Jan 7, 2002 - not 2007 as I had
indicated. Looks like SoundForge and/or Garret Trant *may* have pulled.

I'll leave it to you guy's to sort it out g

Mart


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Dan - (and anyone else who has been following this thread), it would
appear that the url I posted yesterday has 'vanished' this morning.

However, if you're still interested, I've found it (currently!) available
at the author's site :-
http://www.tolvanen.com/eraser/
and note that is now version 5.3 (Feb 3, 2007).

Still untried and untested - at least by me! g

Good luck

Mart



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Dan, try Googling. The first hit I came across was Eraser at :-
http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/download.php

Never tried it so don't know how effective it is - but it is FREE

Mart


"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
In preparation of donating an old computer, I'm interested in
permanently wiping free disk space. Any recommendations for a good free
utility that not only shreds files but also wipes available free space.

Thanks in advance and Happy Easter.

Dan

Not possible, Dan.

But thanks, just the same!


Shane

Dapper Dan wrote:
Thanks for the offer Shane but I think I'll go the ERASER route. I
wouldn't want your neighbours seeing you go through the trash, they
might get the wrong impression vbg.


"Shane" wrote in message
...
Dan,


There seem to be a spate of coincidences here lately! One is that I
found the
cover disc CD I originally got DestroyIt!2000 from, back in 2000/1.
Besides
having long-since realised there's no need to overwrite freespace -
except perhaps in the situation you describe - I found that it was
one of those progs that stopped SR working. I remember reporting it
to Mike - probably in systemtools.

How good it is, I don't know. I thought it was good at the time but
that's almost meaningless, I knew so little then! Presumably it does
work since it stopped SR working because basically it writes a series of
files to the HDD, which are
deleted on reboot. Only in doing so free space goes below the
critical 300MB
required for SR, which then flushes and turns itself off. For Win
ME, for a
user wishing to use SR, DestroyIt!2000 was a prog written for Win 98
that dated rapidly! Of course, if one is getting rid of ME it
doesn't matter if one flushes
the RPs.

Whether you could find DestroyIt!2000 now, I don't know. Whether it's
small
enough to e-mail to you via dial-up, I don't know. The CD is
outdoors, in the 'trash', albeit in a bag that contains no organic
waste (and which I've already been down once to retrieve an old copy
of another prog!).

Shane


Dapper Dan wrote:
Thanks Mike.

I think I'll experiment this weekend. It's not like I have much to
lose given it no longer gets used. If something stupid happens, I
can always repartition; it's just that because it's an OEM, I have
no disks to reload.
Regards

Dan


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Dapper Dan wrote:

Thanks Mart. I started out via the Google route, but before
downloading and using one I thought it prudent to ask. I'm ready
to experiment but if I can use someone else's experience, it may
save me a lot of aggravation.
Thanks again Mart, I appreciate your help.

Sorry I can't help Dan other than to suggest using Google which you
have already done. I've used BING to write zeros to entire drives
but have never attempted to do this to unused parts of a partition
where I want to retain the files. Defragging the drive doesn't
really seem to help either as I have found in the past that I have
been able to recover deleted files where the drive has subsequently
been defragged albeit that was on a system where the file system
was NTFS. --
Mike Maltby

Luckily they come once a week. I am absolutely appalled at the suggestion
they should come just once a fortnight (and I believe this government is
responsible for that one?)! In summer it stinks by the bins enough just from
sitting there 1 week! And there's always some lazy, unhygienic streak in the
neighbourhood. But mostly, I'm glad they come frequently enough that I was
able to part for good with 95! And every DOS version earlier than 6.22!
Actually I still have 5.00 on floppies, but no floppy drive anymore (and
thank the stars I'm not desperate enough to reassemble the other machine
that does have one!).

I look forward with eager anticipation (alternatively I anticipate with
forward eagerness!) the next visit from the dustbin men (Mum! It's the...I
actually used to think that was a very funny show - mind you I was in Junior
School at the time. I sincerely doubt now that it was a masterclass in
sparkling witticisms! Though I do remember looking out my aunt's window in
Sydenham and seeing the Rag'n'Bone Man doing his rounds...what relevance
that has I don't know but it seems apropos someho[w]...)


Shane


Mike M wrote:
The CD is
outdoors, in the 'trash', albeit in a bag that contains no organic
waste (and which I've already been down once to retrieve an old copy
of another prog!).

Been there, done that! Dump something because you don't need/ever
use it and five minutes later you're digging in the rubbish to
recover it. g
Dan,


There seem to be a spate of coincidences here lately! One is that I
found the
cover disc CD I originally got DestroyIt!2000 from, back in 2000/1.
Besides having long-since realised there's no need to overwrite
freespace - except perhaps in the situation you describe - I found
that it was
one of those progs that stopped SR working. I remember reporting it
to Mike - probably in systemtools.

How good it is, I don't know. I thought it was good at the time but
that's almost meaningless, I knew so little then! Presumably it does
work since it stopped SR working because basically it writes a
series of files to the HDD, which are
deleted on reboot. Only in doing so free space goes below the
critical 300MB required for SR, which then flushes and turns itself
off. For Win ME, for a user wishing to use SR, DestroyIt!2000 was a
prog written for Win 98 that dated rapidly! Of course, if one is
getting rid of ME it doesn't matter if one flushes
the RPs.

Whether you could find DestroyIt!2000 now, I don't know. Whether it's
small enough to e-mail to you via dial-up, I don't know. The CD is
outdoors, in the 'trash', albeit in a bag that contains no organic
waste (and which I've already been down once to retrieve an old copy
of another prog!).

You're welcome Dan - and it looks like the server was down this morning.
www.heidi.ie/eraser was back again earlier today. Glad you've got a
satisfactory result and thanks for the report - could be useful for any
prospective users.

Mart


Mart
"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Mart

I downloaded Eraser 5.82 yesterday from www.heidi.ie/eraser. It actually
ran like a charm, no problems whatsoever. I put the computer in a CLEAN
BOOT environment in order to ensure that nothing was open in the
background and initially wiped the unused space in a separate partition.
Once done and satisfied that it hadn't wiped everything, I then wiped
unused space on my C: drive. Given my relatively small 8 GB harddrive, it
only took about an hour to complete.

Interestingly, I also downloaded BC Wipe 3.10.4 by Jetico. It provided a
41 day free trial, and it too ran without a problem wiping unused space on
another partition.

As indicated I was only interested in wiping unused space, so I only read
the section related to this. In both cases all that was required was to
right click on a drive or partition and select either ERASE unused space
(ERASER) or Wipe free space with BC Wipe. However both utilities require a
lot more reading in order to familiarize oneself with the numerous
options available.

Again I want to thank you, and everyone else who have contributed, for
your continued support, it is much appreciated.

Happy Easter

Dan
"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ooops.. The plot thickens.

Seems that version 5.3 was dated Jan 7, 2002 - not 2007 as I had
indicated. Looks like SoundForge and/or Garret Trant *may* have pulled.

I'll leave it to you guy's to sort it out g

Mart


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Dan - (and anyone else who has been following this thread), it would
appear that the url I posted yesterday has 'vanished' this morning.

However, if you're still interested, I've found it (currently!)
available at the author's site :-
http://www.tolvanen.com/eraser/
and note that is now version 5.3 (Feb 3, 2007).

Still untried and untested - at least by me! g

Good luck

Mart



"Mart" wrote in message
...
Dan, try Googling. The first hit I came across was Eraser at :-
http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/download.php

Never tried it so don't know how effective it is - but it is FREE

Mart


"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
In preparation of donating an old computer, I'm interested in
permanently wiping free disk space. Any recommendations for a good
free utility that not only shreds files but also wipes available free
space.

Thanks in advance and Happy Easter.

Dan

I am absolutely appalled at the
suggestion they should come just once a fortnight (and I believe this
government is responsible for that one?)!

As am I. Sadly with Red Ken in control and spending money like its going
out of fashion the poor old London punter/council tax payer doesn't stand
a chance. For example was I ever asked if I was prepared to pay
additional council tax for the next ten years to "allow" the Olympics to
come to London ... like h$ll I was!

Talking of floppy drives I've got a box here that has a dual floppy
(5¼/3½) that first saw the light of day around 1989 in a Viglen. Not that
I can remember when I last inserted a floppy of either size in the drive.
I do have a usb floppy that I use to load RAID drivers when installing XP,
something that can now be done using a usb pen drive with Vista.

Sydenham! My goodness. That was my mother's family home, or rather
Penge, Anerley and surrounding places (Norwood, Crystal Palace, Beckenham,
etc.). As for the Rag 'n' Bone man I wonder if it was the same one I
occasionally saw going down Maple Road?
--
Mike


Shane wrote:

Luckily they come once a week. I am absolutely appalled at the
suggestion they should come just once a fortnight (and I believe this
government is responsible for that one?)! In summer it stinks by the
bins enough just from sitting there 1 week! And there's always some
lazy, unhygienic streak in the neighbourhood. But mostly, I'm glad
they come frequently enough that I was able to part for good with 95!
And every DOS version earlier than 6.22! Actually I still have 5.00
on floppies, but no floppy drive anymore (and thank the stars I'm not
desperate enough to reassemble the other machine that does have one!).

I look forward with eager anticipation (alternatively I anticipate
with forward eagerness!) the next visit from the dustbin men (Mum!
It's the...I actually used to think that was a very funny show - mind
you I was in Junior School at the time. I sincerely doubt now that it
was a masterclass in sparkling witticisms! Though I do remember
looking out my aunt's window in Sydenham and seeing the Rag'n'Bone
Man doing his rounds...what relevance that has I don't know but it
seems apropos someho[w]...)