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  #11  
Old July 13th 05, 06:21 PM
PCR
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"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| I've read through them a couple of times & must conclude the matter
is
| best left in Brian A.'s hands or in the hands of someone else who's
been
| through it.
|
| Star only wants you PCR. IIC you are always requested with starry
eyes.
|

Well, stick around to pick up the pieces, just in case I wreck her
machine. I'm going to pull the fixes from your posts, anyhow!

|
| --
|
| Brian A. Sesko
| { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| Conflicts start where information lacks.
| http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| http://basconotw.mvps.org/
|
|
|


  #12  
Old July 13th 05, 06:37 PM
Star
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Thanks Brian for further input,
snip
You shouldn't be confused. XP and 98 are different birds of a feather and

will
have different configs/options/settings. An updated driver may or may not
provide more options, yet it may have a fix for an issue for the prior
chip/adapter driver version. If you're having problems with newer drivers
another thing to look into is the BIOS ver., some newer driver updates may

also
require an updated BIOS.

*** I have never updated the BIOS on this celeron 4 machine. I've been
looking at the MB book and it does give me info and directions on how to do
this. I do note a **warning** only update the BIOS if you are having
trouble w/MB ?? However, I have the directions to save the my current Bios
and can revert back if something goes wrong!! It will be my first time
doing this so I will be nervous!! I've learned much from this newsgroup,
however some tasks and TS come easier than others for me. I'm really not a
hands-on TS, hate inside the case TS, but will TS OS problems, partition and
install OS, drivers and can within my limitations reasonably tweak Windows.
Also Brian this is not my first experience w/SiS chipsets, had them also on
my Celeron 3 Jetway MB, SiS 630 display chipset and the audio chip is the
sameone I had on the Jetway, 7012. However, never had a problem updating the
display adapter, but the MB capacitors leaked and the MB was replaced and
the CPU.

I'm lost on this... I have brought up the Display Drivers on both the

SiS &
ASUS sites and I look for 650 not 650GX, and it appears I'm stuck w/what

I
have. I do see my driver pkg. and it is truly identified differently

than
the others!! I did download 1 yr. ago the newest 650GX pkg. from SIS,

the
install went well, restart the puter and the monitor is out of range.

Why
would the monitor be out of range and go dark, because the driver is

wrong,
correct ???

If you can help me more would appreciate, I know not to go for the 650GX

but
I would think I could get a newer driver than Dec. 2002, more thoughts

pls.

The drivers at Asus and SIS are dated 2004.


Using the 1-2-3 @ SiS, I get these pkgs., neither are 2004. The last one I
tried maybe a yr. ago and it appeared to go great until I restarted and I
had monitor out of range. Yes, they are huge integrated pkgs. and it's like
using the support CD, and there is not really much for the user to do except
direct Win to the 98SE and ME combined driver fldr.

650_221_win98me.zip
Version
v2.21
Release date
2003-11-18
Product supported
SiS651, SiS650, SiS740, SiS650GL, SiSM650, SiS650GX,
File size
20,452KB
OS supported
Windows 98 SE, Windows 98, Windows ME,

SiS UniVGA3 Graphics Driver
File name
uvga3_367.zip
Version
v3.67
Release date
2005-04-15
Product supported
SiSM650, SiS760, SiS741GX, SiS740, SiS741, SiS651, SiS650GX, SiS650GL,
SiS650, SiSM741, SiSM661MX, SiSM661FX,
File size
16,546KB
OS supported
Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows 98 SE, Windows 98, Windows XP
64-Bit Edition,

What about after what appears a successful install, the puter restarts and
the *monitor is out of range* ?? That is so.o.o nasty and I've just
determined that it was cuz the drivers were wrong, pls. comment ??

The drivers at the link I provided are the drivers for your integrated
graphics. Driver packages may, will and do many times include drivers for
multiple chips and OS's. That is why it is always very important to read

the
installation instructions provided by the manufacturer, also included in

most
downloads, definitely included in the Asus and SIS d/l's.


*** Could I do this, do you recommend. Let's say, I do the big download of
the 1st pkg. Could I do just a driver update via the Device Mgr. by using
update driver and browse and manually just install the drivers. Wouldn't
this work for me instead of uninstalling what I have and installing the
entire software as well as the drivers, pls. comment ? I can be fine with
the s/w I have but would just like the newer drivers.

Thank you kindly,
Star

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



  #13  
Old July 13th 05, 06:59 PM
PCR
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You are welcome.

| So, I removed the ActiveX controls like I mentioned and did scanreg
/restore
| to the morning boot. I don't think those puppies installed completely
and
| that is why one didn't unregister.

It could be as you say. It was looking for something to remove from the
Registry but couldn't find it. I'm thinking...

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;EN-US;Q249873
Explanation of Regsvr32 Usage and Error Messages

....is involved, & the Key it is looking at is possibly...

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\SessionManager\Known
DLLs

Does it still happen? When? Does the sit work? Might be best to await a
response from SiS.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Star" wrote in message
...
| Hi PCR Pro, thanks for coming to this thread!!
|
| Never have I had ActiveX problems, downloading the controls. I
suspected
| something wrong at the SIS site and I did a contact form to the
webmaster to
| inquire about it. I did Goggle searches about errors removing ActiveX
| control errors, *unable to unregister from Windows* is what mine said,
but
| it did remove. I checked them out thoroughly, the dependent files for
the
| controls. The main one is the C:\Windows\SiS0000.inf. This is a big
file,
| I reviewed yesterday and just moments ago. At the bottom section, it
has
| device description and a list of vendors, for ASUS it is SIS 650, for
other
| manufs., I saw 650GX. The MB manual clearly reads
| Chipset: SIS 650GX
| SIS 962L
| VGA SIS Real256 Graphics
|
| So, I removed the ActiveX controls like I mentioned and did scanreg
/restore
| to the morning boot. I don't think those puppies installed completely
and
| that is why one didn't unregister.
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| I don't see anything very relevant in those two articles I posted.
|
http://search.support.microsoft.com/...dv=1&spid=1139 MSKB
| Search "ActiveX" does come up with about 20 articles. Perhaps go
see.
|
| Could be something wrong with the SiS site, too. Are you set for
| "Medium" at "Internet Options, Security tab, Internet Zone"?
|
| I have IE locked up pretty tight, it's my only browser and I utilize
my
| *safe zone*, settings are low only in safe zone, if I want a activeX
| control, I simply put the site in my *safe zone*.
|
| Oh, I did search about ActiveX too at Microsoft, all the error
messages,
| except for yesterday, have been totally successful w/ActiveX, I do
think
| it's the SiS site. I was going to try again, but decided not to. The
chipset
| identification tool just gives me the same info as I can read myself
in the
| System Info tool, plus all the info is in the display/settings
tab/advanced,
| I have a SIS info tab that also gives the info.
|
| To suddenly have out of range after installing display software and
drivers
| and restarting, surely must mean that the drivers are wrong, correct ?
I
| reverted back and I was fine again. For sure, I don't need that!!
|
| Thanks PCR Pro
|
| Star
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| | | Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter
drivers
| | for
| | | 98SE ?
| |
| | I've read through them a couple of times & must conclude the
matter is
| | best left in Brian A.'s hands or in the hands of someone else
who's
| been
| | through it. I only have a SoftPaq from Compaq to use when I want
to
| play
| | with my Video Adapter. It's uninstallable in Add/Remove Programs &
| | reinstalled with a click. STILL...
| |
| | It sounds to me you are a SiS 650, at least on the Win98 side, if
the
| | SiS info package & MSInfo32 said so. The site said you have the
latest
| | drivers. So, that is that. Likely, they did not update them
further
| | (beyond 2002) to provide the options/functionality you get on the
XP
| | side. You don't want to grab something wrong & end up with monitor
| *out
| | of range* errors again.
| |
| | | I've been to the SIS
| | | site and I have done the chip identification tool in the
past....
| but
| | not
| | | w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm
having
| | trouble
| | | running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today.
I
| | removed
| | | the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are
| | placed by
| | | SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to
unregister*,
| | | possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling
me
| to
| | | install the tool, probably because it *never installed
completely*.
| | I
| | | never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX
| downloads.
| |
| | I don't know. You already did what I would try. Now, I'm offline &
| | cannot click...
| |
| | . Web Pages with ActiveX Controls Are Not Displayed Properly
| | (240897) - When you view a Web site that contains an ActiveX
control,
| | you may experience any of the following symptoms: You are not
prompted
| | to download and install the control.A red X is displayed where the
| | control should appear.You receive script errors...
| |
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;240897
| |
| | . Pictures Are Not Displayed on Web Sites in Internet Explorer
| | (283807) - When you open a Web page, one or more pictures
(graphics or
| | images) may not be displayed. Instead, a red X, or a placeholder,
may
| | appear in place of the images. This behavior can occur if one of
the
| | following conditions is true: The Web page...
| | http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;283807
| ...snip
|
|
|
|


  #14  
Old July 13th 05, 07:07 PM
Star
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Brian,
I've been coming to this ng for a mighty long time and I appreciate all the
help I've rec'd here. Actually, I do have a fondness for many MVP's in the
group and other regulars that help me, including PCR.

PCR Pro has always stepped up to the the plate for me, he understands me
when sometimes I'm not clear. Starry eyes, now that's a good one... however,
it's simply appreciation!!

Star

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
"PCR" wrote in message
...
I've read through them a couple of times & must conclude the matter is
best left in Brian A.'s hands or in the hands of someone else who's been
through it.


Star only wants you PCR. IIC you are always requested with starry eyes.


--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/





  #15  
Old July 13th 05, 07:30 PM
PCR
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Well, I see the two packages at that site. It seems to be the same site
Brian A. posted, though I get a blank page when I click his. Just as you
say, nothing has been added to "Downloaded Program Files". I guess that
only happens if one clicks "Identify the model number of SiS products,"
which I hesitate to do. It did once say you were SiS650. Didn't it also
say you had the latest drivers? But, you say your drivers are dated
2002?

You took v3.67 (2005-04-15), & it turned out bad. Though it states "OS
supported: Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows 98 SE, Windows
98, Windows XP 64-Bit Edition", perhaps it is more geared toward XP.

It sounds like the other is worth a try... v2.21... "OS supported:
Windows 98 SE, Windows 98, Windows ME", BUT let it be on Brian A.'s
head, if it blows you up!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Star" wrote in message
...
| PCR,
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| | Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter
drivers
| for
| | 98SE ?
|
| I've read through them a couple of times & must conclude the matter
is
| best left in Brian A.'s hands or in the hands of someone else who's
been
| through it. I only have a SoftPaq from Compaq to use when I want to
play
| with my Video Adapter. It's uninstallable in Add/Remove Programs &
| reinstalled with a click. STILL...
|
| It sounds to me you are a SiS 650, at least on the Win98 side, if
the
| SiS info package & MSInfo32 said so. The site said you have the
latest
| drivers. So, that is that. Likely, they did not update them further
| (beyond 2002) to provide the options/functionality you get on the XP
| side. You don't want to grab something wrong & end up with monitor
*out
| of range* errors again.
|
| ****** If you go here, no rush
|
http://www.sis.com/download/
|
| This is the SiS 1-2-3 page, no activeX controls required. Anyway
after you
| do the 1-2-3, you see these software/driver pkgs.
| File info.
|
| *** 650_221_win98me.zip
| Version
| v2.21
| Release date
| 2003-11-18
| Product supported
| SiS651, SiS650, SiS740, SiS650GL, SiSM650, SiS650GX,
| File size
| 20,452KB
| OS supported
| Windows 98 SE, Windows 98, Windows ME,
|
| ** The one above may work, what are your thoughts...
| ** The one below, is a no go, It's the one that put the monitor out of
| range, looking at the file name, I'm pretty sure that it was the zip
file I
| downloaded.
|
| Anyway, maybe the right thing to do is nothing!!
|
| *** SiS UniVGA3 Graphics Driver
| File name
| uvga3_367.zip
| Version
| v3.67
| Release date
| 2005-04-15
| Product supported
| SiSM650, SiS760, SiS741GX, SiS740, SiS741, SiS651, SiS650GX,
SiS650GL,
| SiS650, SiSM741, SiSM661MX, SiSM661FX,
| File size
| 16,546KB
| OS supported
| Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows 98 SE, Windows 98,
Windows XP
| 64-Bit Edition,
|
| Thanks again, I'm not sure even on the 1st entry, specifically it is
for
| W98, 98SE & ME, however.
|
| Star
|
| | I've been to the SIS
| | site and I have done the chip identification tool in the past....
but
| not
| | w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm
having
| trouble
| | running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today. I
| removed
| | the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are
| placed by
| | SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to
unregister*,
| | possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling me
to
| | install the tool, probably because it *never installed
completely*.
| I
| | never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX
downloads.
|
| I don't know. You already did what I would try. Now, I'm offline &
| cannot click...
|
| . Web Pages with ActiveX Controls Are Not Displayed Properly
| (240897) - When you view a Web site that contains an ActiveX
control,
| you may experience any of the following symptoms: You are not
prompted
| to download and install the control.A red X is displayed where the
| control should appear.You receive script errors...
| http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;240897
|
| . Pictures Are Not Displayed on Web Sites in Internet Explorer
| (283807) - When you open a Web page, one or more pictures (graphics
or
| images) may not be displayed. Instead, a red X, or a placeholder,
may
| appear in place of the images. This behavior can occur if one of the
| following conditions is true: The Web page...
| http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;283807
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Star" wrote in message
| ...
| | PCR Pro,
| | Pls. give me some feedback regarding my display adapter, can you
pls.
| read
| | this post and the other post I wrote in this thread.
| |
| | Thank, Star.
| |
| | Thanks, Star
| | "Star" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hello,
| | Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter
drivers
| for
| | 98SE ? The MB is a ASUS P4SGX-MX, Celeron 2000Ghz. I have the
| support CD
| | and I'm currently using the software & driver pkgs on from the
| support CD.
| | This is the stats for the main drivers for super vga display.
| |
| | Product: SiS 650
| | Softwa VS. 2.12
| | Driver VS: 2.12
| | 12-02-2002
| | Chipset: SIS 650GX
| | SIS 962L
| | VGA SIS Real256 Graphics
| |
| | Driver: sisgl.dll - Super VGA OpenGL ICD
| | File Date: 12/2/2002 4:47 PM
| | Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| | File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| | Driver: sisdx32.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 32 Bit
| | File Date: 11/21/2002 11:00 AM
| | Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| | File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| | Driver: sisdx.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 16 Bit
| | File Date: 11/21/2002 11:01 AM
| | Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| | File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| | Driver: sisgr.vxd - Virtual Display Minidriver
| | File Date: 11/28/2002 3:14 PM
| | Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| | File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| | Driver: sisgr.drv - Super VGA Display Driver
| | File Date: 11/28/2002 3:17 PM
| | Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| | File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| |
| | I was initially dual booting, I also had Win-XP Prof. The
drivers
| for
| | Win-XP were always right-on, the pkg. for 98-SE shows up as
| *Compatible*
| | when you install and I don't have many settings for 98-SE in
| comparison to
| | Win-XP, many functions just arn't available, etc...
| |
| | I would like to update the drivers for the display adapter,
however
| I'm
| | very
| | confused as to what I should download. I don't want to do the
| entire pkg.
| | since it's a compatible pkg.
| |
| | I'm nervous about this... because I was not smart and took the
one
| driver
| | that was offered once and it totally crashed the puter, actually
the
| | monitor, not the puter. After, the monitor was *out-of-range*
and
| I
| | couldn't see the desktop of course. And, it took me 3 days to
get
| the
| | timing
| | right to get into safe mode and fix the problem.
| |
| | Should I get the driver update from ASUS vs. the SIS site.... if
I
| go to
| | ASUS, they are displayed on my MB site which is, link to the
ASUS
| | P4SGX-MX.....
| |
|
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...lName=P4SGX-MX...
| | I'm
| | not sure and possibly, I'm already using the best drivers??
| |
| | I've went to SIS site and click on downloads, highlight display,
| choose
| | 98SE
| | and SIS 650 and it seems I'm already using the best drivers for
| 98SE,
| | however my drivers are from Dec. 2002, therefore seem old, but
then
| 98SE
| | has
| | been around since 1999.
| |
| | I would appreciate guidance, and if I should update, which is
the
| best
| | compatable pick !! I downloaded an entire pkg. approx. 1 year
ago
| from
| | SIS,
| | it was drivers and the the software. Unfortunately, I had the
same
| | problem
| | that I experienced at Windows Update.... monitor *out of range*,
bad
| | problem!! The driver that is at Windows Update, I have looked
at
| iit's
| | stats and it is older than the one I'm using, however I learned
the
| hard
| | way, after the fact.
| |
| | Thank you,
| |
| | Star
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|


  #17  
Old July 13th 05, 07:41 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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Rule number two for flashing BIOS (rule #1 is "If it ain't broke...")

Make sure you have the system on a well charged, tested, dependable
battery backup UPS. If the operation is interrupted for *any* reason,
the BIOS chip is toast--you would need to find someone with a bench
setup to reprogram it or simply purchase another. I've had it happen to
me. Puts a real damper on the party. Only positive side was that the
newer BIOS chip actually worked better.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Star" wrote in message
...
*** I have never updated the BIOS on this celeron 4 machine. I've been
looking at the MB book and it does give me info and directions on how
to do
this. I do note a **warning** only update the BIOS if you are having
trouble w/MB ?? However, I have the directions to save the my current
Bios
and can revert back if something goes wrong!! It will be my first
time
doing this so I will be nervous!! I've learned much from this
newsgroup,
however some tasks and TS come easier than others for me. I'm really
not a
hands-on TS, hate inside the case TS, but will TS OS problems,
partition and
install OS, drivers and can within my limitations reasonably tweak
Windows.
Also Brian this is not my first experience w/SiS chipsets, had them
also on
my Celeron 3 Jetway MB, SiS 630 display chipset and the audio chip is
the
sameone I had on the Jetway, 7012. However, never had a problem
updating the
display adapter, but the MB capacitors leaked and the MB was replaced
and
the CPU.


  #18  
Old July 13th 05, 07:53 PM
Star
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PCR Pro,

I did get a reply from the webmaster early today.... I went to the site
again last pm and the home page wasn't coming down to me like it normally
does. They are having problems w/auto-detect activeX tool!! It was cool,
they responded to me!!
(see below too)
snip

It could be as you say. It was looking for something to remove from the
Registry but couldn't find it. I'm thinking...

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;EN-US;Q249873
Explanation of Regsvr32 Usage and Error Messages


*** The link above, I found... it's technical jargon is hard for me to
understand, can grasp only a little on the page right now, I will go back
again and truly focus.

...is involved, & the Key it is looking at is possibly...

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\SessionManager\Known
DLLs


*** Cool... followed the path to above key.... this is my key info
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\SessionManager\KnownDLL
s]
"DIGSIG"="DIGSIG.DLL"
"KERNEL32"="KERNEL32.DLL"
"USER32"="USER32.DLL"
"GDI32"="GDI32.DLL"
"WOW32"="WOW32.DLL"
"WINMM"="WINMM.DLL"
"WINNT"="WINNT.DLL"
"RPCRT4"="RPCRT4.DLL"
"ADVAPI32"="ADVAPI32.DLL"
"COMDLG32"="COMDLG32.DLL"
"CRTDLL"="CRTDLL.DLL"
"SHELL32"="SHELL32.DLL"
"SHSCRAP"="SHSCRAP.DLL"
"LZ32"="LZ32.DLL"
"OLECLI32"="OLECLI32.DLL"
"OLESVR32"="OLESVR32.DLL"
"VERSION"="VERSION.DLL"
"COMCTL32"="COMCTL32.DLL"
"MSNP32"="MSNP32.DLL"
"NWNP32"="NWNP32.DLL"
"MPR"="MPR.DLL"
"MPRSERV"="MPRSERV.DLL"
"MSSHRUI"="MSSHRUI.DLL"
"MSNET32"="MSNET32.DLL"
"NWNET32"="NWNET32.DLL"
"MSPWL32"="MSPWL32.DLL"
"OLE32"="OLE32.DLL"
"OLEAUT32"="OLEAUT32.DLL"
"OLEDLG"="OLEDLG.DLL"
"OLETHK32"="OLETHK32.DLL"
"NETBIOS"="NETBIOS.DLL"
"MSAB32"="MSAB32.DLL"
"NWAB32"="NWAB32.DLL"
"SVRAPI"="SVRAPI.DLL"
"CHOOSUSR"="CHOOSUSR.DLL"
"SYNCUI"="SYNCUI.DLL"
"LINKINFO"="LINKINFO.DLL"
"MSVCRT20"="MSVCRT20.DLL"
"RICHED32"="RICHED32.DLL"
"WINSPOOL"="WINSPOOL.DRV"
"MFC30"="MFC30.DLL"
"MFCUIA32"="MFCUIA32.DLL"
"MFCANS32"="MFCANS32.DLL"
"NTDLL"="NTDLL.DLL"
"RASAPI32"="RASAPI32.DLL"
"TAPI32"="TAPI32.DLL"
"UMDM32"="UMDM32.DLL"
"SHDOCVW"="SHDOCVW.DLL"
"SHLWAPI"="SHLWAPI.DLL"
"WININET"="WININET.DLL"
"URLMON"="URLMON.DLL"
"IMAGEHLP"="IMAGEHLP.DLL"
"NETAPI32"="NETAPI32.DLL"
"MSRATING"="MSRATING.DLL"
"MSVCRT40"="MSVCRT40.DLL"
"MFC40"="MFC40.DLL"
"RSABASE"="RSABASE.DLL"
"WINTRUST"="WINTRUST.DLL"
"MSVCRT"="MSVCRT.DLL"
"SYNCENG"="SYNCENG.DLL"
"RNAP"="RNAP.DLL"
"RNATHUNK"="RNATHUNK.DLL"
"RNAUI"="RNAUI.DLL"
"RNASERV"="RNASERV.DLL"

*** Some of these dll's I'm familiar with, are these all the registered
dll's on my puter?

PCR, I don't understand this very well, downloaded activeX controls usually
go in downloaded programs fldr. They are usually dependant upon an .inf
file where obviously they get the info. How do these controls register
themselves in the registry, how can I see the ones I have, what is the
path/key to follow? I only have 4 controls Windows Update, Media player 9,
Call Wave, and Flash player..

Does it still happen? When? Does the sit work? Might be best to await a
response from SiS.


The SiS site also has a 1-2-3 user interface, no activeX control used on the
page. Since I know my actual chipset I can use this user interface instead
of. In another post I copied the 2 offerings, the first one may be *right*
it has a 2003 date. I wrote in another post in this thread and copied the
file info.

I haven't tried to do the auto-detect tool again at SIS, I'm not sure if
it's working correctly and then I have to remove the activeX controls and do
a dos scanreg /restore again to the morning boot.

Star


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Star" wrote in message
...
| Hi PCR Pro, thanks for coming to this thread!!
|
| Never have I had ActiveX problems, downloading the controls. I
suspected
| something wrong at the SIS site and I did a contact form to the
webmaster to
| inquire about it. I did Goggle searches about errors removing ActiveX
| control errors, *unable to unregister from Windows* is what mine said,
but
| it did remove. I checked them out thoroughly, the dependent files for
the
| controls. The main one is the C:\Windows\SiS0000.inf. This is a big
file,
| I reviewed yesterday and just moments ago. At the bottom section, it
has
| device description and a list of vendors, for ASUS it is SIS 650, for
other
| manufs., I saw 650GX. The MB manual clearly reads
| Chipset: SIS 650GX
| SIS 962L
| VGA SIS Real256 Graphics
|
| So, I removed the ActiveX controls like I mentioned and did scanreg
/restore
| to the morning boot. I don't think those puppies installed completely
and
| that is why one didn't unregister.
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| I don't see anything very relevant in those two articles I posted.
|
http://search.support.microsoft.com/...dv=1&spid=1139 MSKB
| Search "ActiveX" does come up with about 20 articles. Perhaps go
see.
|
| Could be something wrong with the SiS site, too. Are you set for
| "Medium" at "Internet Options, Security tab, Internet Zone"?
|
| I have IE locked up pretty tight, it's my only browser and I utilize
my
| *safe zone*, settings are low only in safe zone, if I want a activeX
| control, I simply put the site in my *safe zone*.
|
| Oh, I did search about ActiveX too at Microsoft, all the error
messages,
| except for yesterday, have been totally successful w/ActiveX, I do
think
| it's the SiS site. I was going to try again, but decided not to. The
chipset
| identification tool just gives me the same info as I can read myself
in the
| System Info tool, plus all the info is in the display/settings
tab/advanced,
| I have a SIS info tab that also gives the info.
|
| To suddenly have out of range after installing display software and
drivers
| and restarting, surely must mean that the drivers are wrong, correct ?
I
| reverted back and I was fine again. For sure, I don't need that!!
|
| Thanks PCR Pro
|
| Star
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| | | Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter
drivers
| | for
| | | 98SE ?
| |
| | I've read through them a couple of times & must conclude the
matter is
| | best left in Brian A.'s hands or in the hands of someone else
who's
| been
| | through it. I only have a SoftPaq from Compaq to use when I want
to
| play
| | with my Video Adapter. It's uninstallable in Add/Remove Programs &
| | reinstalled with a click. STILL...
| |
| | It sounds to me you are a SiS 650, at least on the Win98 side, if
the
| | SiS info package & MSInfo32 said so. The site said you have the
latest
| | drivers. So, that is that. Likely, they did not update them
further
| | (beyond 2002) to provide the options/functionality you get on the
XP
| | side. You don't want to grab something wrong & end up with monitor
| *out
| | of range* errors again.
| |
| | | I've been to the SIS
| | | site and I have done the chip identification tool in the
past....
| but
| | not
| | | w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm
having
| | trouble
| | | running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today.
I
| | removed
| | | the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are
| | placed by
| | | SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to
unregister*,
| | | possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling
me
| to
| | | install the tool, probably because it *never installed
completely*.
| | I
| | | never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX
| downloads.
| |
| | I don't know. You already did what I would try. Now, I'm offline &
| | cannot click...
| |
| | . Web Pages with ActiveX Controls Are Not Displayed Properly
| | (240897) - When you view a Web site that contains an ActiveX
control,
| | you may experience any of the following symptoms: You are not
prompted
| | to download and install the control.A red X is displayed where the
| | control should appear.You receive script errors...
| |
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;240897
| |
| | . Pictures Are Not Displayed on Web Sites in Internet Explorer
| | (283807) - When you open a Web page, one or more pictures
(graphics or
| | images) may not be displayed. Instead, a red X, or a placeholder,
may
| | appear in place of the images. This behavior can occur if one of
the
| | following conditions is true: The Web page...
| | http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;283807
| ...snip
|
|
|
|




  #19  
Old July 13th 05, 08:43 PM
Star
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Thxs Gary,
I know that this is a *dangerous/risky and I did mention my nervousness. My
BIOS has EZ Flash and Crash Free BIOS feature. However, I don't believe
Crash Free, not with the obvious warnings given. I am not rushing into this
experience and I don't welcome it for my life. I wish I had you here to do
it for me. The instructions are well written in MB book... I did watch
someone do the BIOS update for my old Jetway MB. I was very nervous then
and I was only watching. The Jetway had to be replaced, had leaking
capacitors!!

BIOS chip toast... is that the worst that could happen, approx. what does a
BIOS chip cost, and of course, no BIOS chip, no boot to Win. OS and you are
left w/unusable machine??

Thxs., Star

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Rule number two for flashing BIOS (rule #1 is "If it ain't broke...")

Make sure you have the system on a well charged, tested, dependable
battery backup UPS. If the operation is interrupted for *any* reason,
the BIOS chip is toast--you would need to find someone with a bench
setup to reprogram it or simply purchase another. I've had it happen to
me. Puts a real damper on the party. Only positive side was that the
newer BIOS chip actually worked better.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Star" wrote in message
...
*** I have never updated the BIOS on this celeron 4 machine. I've been
looking at the MB book and it does give me info and directions on how
to do
this. I do note a **warning** only update the BIOS if you are having
trouble w/MB ?? However, I have the directions to save the my current
Bios
and can revert back if something goes wrong!! It will be my first
time
doing this so I will be nervous!! I've learned much from this
newsgroup,
however some tasks and TS come easier than others for me. I'm really
not a
hands-on TS, hate inside the case TS, but will TS OS problems,
partition and
install OS, drivers and can within my limitations reasonably tweak
Windows.
Also Brian this is not my first experience w/SiS chipsets, had them
also on
my Celeron 3 Jetway MB, SiS 630 display chipset and the audio chip is
the
sameone I had on the Jetway, 7012. However, never had a problem
updating the
display adapter, but the MB capacitors leaked and the MB was replaced
and
the CPU.




  #20  
Old July 13th 05, 08:57 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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"Star" wrote in message
...
BIOS chip toast... is that the worst that could happen, approx. what
does a
BIOS chip cost, and of course, no BIOS chip, no boot to Win. OS and
you are
left w/unusable machine??



I don't *think* there is anything worse that *might* happen when
flashing a BIOS. And I don't recall how much for the MR BIOS replacement
I got--that was before I even got involved in newsgroups. Easy enough to
Google it, though.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm


 




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