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Old May 15th 11, 05:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default FireFox and "Stop Script" Nuisance

Hi,

I use FireFox V2.0.0.17 on my Win98se computers. I have Java Script
enabled, but "Java" unchecked. I did not change, via "Advance", the
default "Java Script Settings". "Move or resize exiting Window" and
"Disable or replace content..." are enabled (default).

NUISANCE:

When I visit sites, often a pop up, "Stop Script" window appears. I have
to click on the button in order to continue a web page download.

The "Help" documents does not provide any information on how
I can automatically "stop script".

Do you know of a way I can automatically, "Stop Script", or must
I enable (if that will work?) all the Java Script settings to avoid this
problem?

Thank You in Advance, John

PS, Remove "ine" from my email address

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Old May 16th 11, 01:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Default FireFox and "Stop Script" Nuisance

wrote:

I use FireFox V2.0.0.17 on my Win98se computers.


Is there any particular reason why you don't have 2.0.0.20?

I have Java Script enabled, but "Java" unchecked.


I have both enabled.

I did not change, via "Advance", the default "Java Script
Settings". "Move or resize exiting Window" and
"Disable or replace content..." are enabled (default).


Same.

NUISANCE:

When I visit sites, often a pop up, "Stop Script" window appears.


You mean that a messages that a "script has stopped responding" message
appears, and you can "wait" or "stop" the script.

Do you know of a way I can automatically, "Stop Script", or
must I enable (if that will work?) all the Java Script
settings to avoid this problem?


Open Firefox and type "about:config" in the address bar (then hit
return).

In the "Filter" entry box, enter dom.max_script_run_time.

The default value should be 10 (seconds). You can make it shorter (so
the script time-out message happens faster). That won't fix these
scripts from timing out - it means you'll waste less time waiting to
dismiss the time-out message box.

There are two add-ons that can be a more effective remedy for Javascript
issues. One is called "YesScript", and the other is "NoScript".

The default behavior of Noscript is that it prevents javascript from
running for ALL websites you visit, unless you specifically add the site
to a "white-list".

Yes-script is the complete opposite. It's default behavior is to allow
javascript on all websites unless you add specific sites to a
"black-list".

Anyone running Firefox 2.x won't be able to run the most recent version
of YesScript:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/fir...ript/versions/

It looks like you'll need version 1.8:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/fir...t/versions/1.8

I don't run either one, but I did try NoScript a few years ago and found
it to be too much of a pain. People normally use NoScript as a browser
"security" feature - not to enhance the browser's functionality or
usability (indeed - it decreases both).

If you find that you go to certain sites with some frequency and it's
those sites that give you script problems, then you might want to try
YesScript on them.

I also suggest you upgrade to Firefox 2.0.0.20:

http://www.oldapps.com/firefox.php?o...fox=7?download

Firefox 2.0.0.20 was released about 3 months after your version
(2.0.0.17) and contains a handful of additional security patches.

I find Firefox 2.0.0.20 to be a perfectly functional browser for 99.9%
of the web-surfing I do. For a few web sites that don't function
properly on that version, I have Opera version 11.01.
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Old May 16th 11, 03:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
thanatoid
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98 Guy wrote in :

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The default behavior of Noscript is that it prevents
javascript from running for ALL websites you visit, unless
you specifically add the site to a "white-list".

Yes-script is the complete opposite. It's default behavior
is to allow javascript on all websites unless you add
specific sites to a "black-list".


I placed 4 options on my Opera toolbar: images blocker, flash
blocker, javascript on/off, and "show as IE/FF/Opera".

Seems simpler, doesn't it?
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Old May 16th 11, 12:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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thanatoid wrote in
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I don't want to be an annoying pest, but like I said in my other
post, nPop and Xnews do it faster and better, and no "stop
script" crap etc. And there are quite a few other options as
well.


I use nPOP too. I think email is far too important to be held to ransom by
the dubious performance of large systems. Imagine having a phone attached to
a TV, where the TV suppressed phone use while adverts were showing, or when
the news was on. Doing emails with a browser is like that. If you look at
what it actually IS, you'll see that SMTP and POP3 (for sending and receiving
respectively) are protocols with about as much to do with the WWW as a
telephone landline has to do with mass broadcasting. The fact that access
appears at the same location for the end user these days is encouraging
illusions that should be abandoned to allow better control of things you
need. Keep them as separate as you can manage, so each system works as you
need. Ideally email should work well enough to be used as a means to make
emergency calls if the phone goes down.

There's an nPOPuk variant that does a bit more. I prefer the original but the
variant does email forwarding and a few other things extra.

Putting programs on their own partition is something I do too. Those that
allow it are usually more selfcontained, will usually run on W98 or WXP (so
long as they will run on W98 at all), and they also tend to limit their
dependencies so that they are more indepedent of each other, and far less
likely to break (or break each other).
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Old May 17th 11, 02:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Lostgallifreyan wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote in
:

I don't want to be an annoying pest, but like I said in my
other post, nPop and Xnews do it faster and better, and no
"stop script" crap etc. And there are quite a few other
options as well.


I use nPOP too. I think email is far too important to be
held to ransom by the dubious performance of large systems.
Imagine having a phone attached to a TV, where the TV
suppressed phone use while adverts were showing, or when
the news was on. Doing emails with a browser is like that.
If you look at what it actually IS, you'll see that SMTP
and POP3 (for sending and receiving respectively) are
protocols with about as much to do with the WWW as a
telephone landline has to do with mass broadcasting. The
fact that access appears at the same location for the end
user these days is encouraging illusions that should be
abandoned to allow better control of things you need. Keep
them as separate as you can manage, so each system works as
you need. Ideally email should work well enough to be used
as a means to make emergency calls if the phone goes down.


I could NOT have said it as well. Can I save this bit to quote
when the subject comes up in some discussion with the clueless
(with full credit given)?

There's an nPOPuk variant that does a bit more. I prefer
the original but the variant does email forwarding and a
few other things extra.


Yes, various multiple folder options etc. I also prefer the
original, and manage the email content manually before archiving
it.
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Old May 17th 11, 02:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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thanatoid wrote in
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I could NOT have said it as well. Can I save this bit to quote
when the subject comes up in some discussion with the clueless
(with full credit given)?


Feel free. Just bear in mind that someone will point out that if the phone
goes down, so does email, if you have ADSL.
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Old May 17th 11, 09:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Lostgallifreyan wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote in
:

I could NOT have said it as well. Can I save this bit to
quote when the subject comes up in some discussion with
the clueless (with full credit given)?


Feel free. Just bear in mind that someone will point out
that if the phone goes down, so does email, if you have
ADSL.


Thanks. :-)

I live in a 3rd world country where the electricity goes out at
least 5 times a week. The record so far is 20 hours, although it
is usually between 30 seconds and 2 hrs. After a few years of
this you hardly even notice.

But, the *phone* line has NEVER died ONCE since I have lived
here.

OTOH, when I lived in Vancouver, the electricity went out /once/
in about 11 years (the phone line never died either).

(Don't ask me where I live now, because I like to maintain my
illusion of some privacy/'nonymity...)
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Old May 17th 11, 07:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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In message ,
Lostgallifreyan writes:
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Putting programs on their own partition is something I do too. Those that
allow it are usually more selfcontained, will usually run on W98 or WXP (so
long as they will run on W98 at all), and they also tend to limit their
dependencies so that they are more indepedent of each other, and far less
likely to break (or break each other).


How many partitions do you have? And are they all small?
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Old May 17th 11, 11:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in
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In message ,
Lostgallifreyan writes:
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Putting programs on their own partition is something I do too. Those that
allow it are usually more selfcontained, will usually run on W98 or WXP (so
long as they will run on W98 at all), and they also tend to limit their
dependencies so that they are more indepedent of each other, and far less
likely to break (or break each other).


How many partitions do you have? And are they all small?


Like this: 2GB C: (minus space for a 15MB primary for DOS bootable, with
network, as emergency stash, rarely used, given a letter by W98 that doesn't
interfere with the other primaries, it's usually last in the list.), then 1GB
D: as first primary on second disk, for backup images, Ghost, GDISK, etc, and
any batch files, reg files, for updates being used and tested before being
merged to the main image some time when I'm sure to keep them. Then the first
disk's extended DOS slice gets two 1GB logicals, E: and F:, for main
programs, and less used programs, respectively, then a 4GB G: that gets a
directory frequently updated manually to mirror D: so the backup is always
current, on a separate disk. The OS install files also live in a dir in the
root of G: along with stuff to let me examine or install another OS if I have
to. G: also contains program install archives that justified any effort to
categorise them for easy finding. The rest of the disk is H: which is mainly
(lots of) audio files, but with enough extra space to juggle large stuff
between disks when space is short. The rest of the second disk is extended
slice, as two large partitions whose sizes are close to 'golden mean' ratio,
smaller one first. The bigger one holds the Lumber Room, a huge directory
where I chuck anything in without having to worry about sorting. It also
mirrors a lot of what's on drive G: as well as all of E: and F:, so pretty
much everything important is recoverable from one disk if the other dies.
There's a removable frame holding that second disk so it's easy to migrate
the entire system to another machine (I have one with a similar frame, so
most of this data is double-backed there too, as well as offline). The main
machine has a second frame, for a third disk, for movies and such, on a big
disk that's all extended DOS, no primaries to screw up the drive letter
order.

There may be better ways, but that's how I ended up because nothing demanded
that I make changes ince that scheme developed. It hasn't changed much since
I had that 6.4 GB Quantum Fireball. The data slices just got bigger, because
I hated burning CD's.
 




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