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Puzzle: Win98SE Version and USB Flash Drive Security Application
I am experiencing a curious problem trying to run the security
application that came with a new USB 2.0 flash drive from Kingston (DataTraveler Elite, 1GB, 24/14 MBps). Even though the drive is supposed to work with Win98SE and even though someone from their technical support says that it works fine on their system, the application keeps exiting after telling me that it "doesn't support this version of Windows". After an email dialogue with their support, I began to suspect that the Windows Security Update CD from last February had messed things up by updating the version from 4.10.2222A (Win98SE) to 4.10.2222B (Win98SE Security Update). However, updating the subversion number stored in the registry from "B" to "A" (see below) didn't solve the problem, as I get the same error message. Kingston support has already suggested that I return the drive, so I don't anticipate that they will provide any further details regarding exactly what the security application is looking at when it decides that I am not running Win98SE. So...I'd like to request that people running Win98SE, both with and without the Security Update CD installed, send me information regarding their version of Windows, especially where it differs from mine; my information is as follows: System control panel applet: Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition 4.10.2222B Registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion - ProductName = "Microsoft Windows 98" - ProductType = "115" - SubVersionNumber = "B" - Version = "Windows 98" - VersionNumber = "4.10.2222" Tweaking Toolbox 1.60: Created by Win9xNTVer 1.52 (TTW-S 1.60) on 07-Jan-2005 18:23:46 Information from the registry: Version : Windows 98 Version number: 4.10.2222B Product type : Unable to get information Information from Windows itself: Platform ID : WIN32_WINDOWS Version : 4.10 Build : 4.10.2222 This seems to be: Windows 98 (UNRECOGNISED VERSION) I find the "Product type : Unable to get information" and "Windows 98 (UNRECOGNISED VERSION)" bits very curious. Thanks for your assistance and advice. - Alan |
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Alan Raskin wrote in
: I am experiencing a curious problem trying to run the security application that came with a new USB 2.0 flash drive from Kingston (DataTraveler Elite, 1GB, 24/14 MBps). Even though the drive is supposed to work with Win98SE and even though someone from their technical support says that it works fine on their system, the application keeps exiting after telling me that it "doesn't support this version of Windows". After an email dialogue with their support, I began to suspect that the Windows Security Update CD from last February had messed things up by updating the version from 4.10.2222A (Win98SE) to 4.10.2222B (Win98SE Security Update). However, updating the subversion number stored in the registry from "B" to "A" (see below) didn't solve the problem, as I get the same error message. Kingston support has already suggested that I return the drive, so I don't anticipate that they will provide any further details regarding exactly what the security application is looking at when it decides that I am not running Win98SE. So...I'd like to request that people running Win98SE, both with and without the Security Update CD installed, send me information regarding their version of Windows, especially where it differs from mine; my information is as follows: System control panel applet: Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition 4.10.2222B Registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion - ProductName = "Microsoft Windows 98" - ProductType = "115" - SubVersionNumber = "B" - Version = "Windows 98" - VersionNumber = "4.10.2222" Tweaking Toolbox 1.60: Created by Win9xNTVer 1.52 (TTW-S 1.60) on 07-Jan-2005 18:23:46 Information from the registry: Version : Windows 98 Version number: 4.10.2222B Product type : Unable to get information Information from Windows itself: Platform ID : WIN32_WINDOWS Version : 4.10 Build : 4.10.2222 This seems to be: Windows 98 (UNRECOGNISED VERSION) I find the "Product type : Unable to get information" and "Windows 98 (UNRECOGNISED VERSION)" bits very curious. Thanks for your assistance and advice. - Alan You can use Regmon from www.sysinternals.com to see which registry keys are read by the program. |
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Ingeborg wrote:
Alan Raskin wrote in : I am experiencing a curious problem trying to run the security application that came with a new USB 2.0 flash drive from Kingston (DataTraveler Elite, 1GB, 24/14 MBps). Even though the drive is supposed to work with Win98SE and even though someone from their technical support says that it works fine on their system, the application keeps exiting after telling me that it "doesn't support this version of Windows". After an email dialogue with their support, I began to suspect that the Windows Security Update CD from last February had messed things up by updating the version from 4.10.2222A (Win98SE) to 4.10.2222B (Win98SE Security Update). However, updating the subversion number stored in the registry from "B" to "A" (see below) didn't solve the problem, as I get the same error message. Kingston support has already suggested that I return the drive, so I don't anticipate that they will provide any further details regarding exactly what the security application is looking at when it decides that I am not running Win98SE. So...I'd like to request that people running Win98SE, both with and without the Security Update CD installed, send me information regarding their version of Windows, especially where it differs from mine; my information is as follows: ... You can use Regmon from www.sysinternals.com to see which registry keys are read by the program. I just tried that. The only registry key it's accessing is the SubVersionNumber one, but the program exits with an "error" regardless of whether it reads the value "B" or "A". *sigh* Thanks for the reminder re SysInternals. - Alan |
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Alan Raskin wrote in news:#SQxwsX9EHA.2032
@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl: Ingeborg wrote: Alan Raskin wrote in : I am experiencing a curious problem trying to run the security application that came with a new USB 2.0 flash drive from Kingston (DataTraveler Elite, 1GB, 24/14 MBps). Even though the drive is supposed to work with Win98SE and even though someone from their technical support says that it works fine on their system, the application keeps exiting after telling me that it "doesn't support this version of Windows". After an email dialogue with their support, I began to suspect that the Windows Security Update CD from last February had messed things up by updating the version from 4.10.2222A (Win98SE) to 4.10.2222B (Win98SE Security Update). However, updating the subversion number stored in the registry from "B" to "A" (see below) didn't solve the problem, as I get the same error message. Kingston support has already suggested that I return the drive, so I don't anticipate that they will provide any further details regarding exactly what the security application is looking at when it decides that I am not running Win98SE. So...I'd like to request that people running Win98SE, both with and without the Security Update CD installed, send me information regarding their version of Windows, especially where it differs from mine; my information is as follows: ... You can use Regmon from www.sysinternals.com to see which registry keys are read by the program. I just tried that. The only registry key it's accessing is the SubVersionNumber one, but the program exits with an "error" regardless of whether it reads the value "B" or "A". *sigh* Thanks for the reminder re SysInternals. - Alan The NT versions of windows doesn't have a SubVersionNumber AFAIK. Maybe the software tests for NT, for some reason. You can try to delete the SubVersionNumber. |
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FWIW, mine is a little different, though this may not be significant.
(Win98 SE, no sec update CD installed) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion - ProductName = "Microsoft Windows 98" - ProductType = "101" - SubVersionNumber = " A " - Version = "Windows 98" - VersionNumber = "4.10.2222" Note the spaces around " A " rather than the "A" you mention. ....Alan -- Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/index.html In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, Alan Raskin wrote: I am experiencing a curious problem trying to run the security application that came with a new USB 2.0 flash drive from Kingston (DataTraveler Elite, 1GB, 24/14 MBps). Even though the drive is supposed to work with Win98SE and even though someone from their technical support says that it works fine on their system, the application keeps exiting after telling me that it "doesn't support this version of Windows". After an email dialogue with their support, I began to suspect that the Windows Security Update CD from last February had messed things up by updating the version from 4.10.2222A (Win98SE) to 4.10.2222B (Win98SE Security Update). However, updating the subversion number stored in the registry from "B" to "A" (see below) didn't solve the problem, as I get the same error message. Kingston support has already suggested that I return the drive, so I don't anticipate that they will provide any further details regarding exactly what the security application is looking at when it decides that I am not running Win98SE. So...I'd like to request that people running Win98SE, both with and without the Security Update CD installed, send me information regarding their version of Windows, especially where it differs from mine; my information is as follows: System control panel applet: Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition 4.10.2222B Registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion - ProductName = "Microsoft Windows 98" - ProductType = "115" - SubVersionNumber = "B" - Version = "Windows 98" - VersionNumber = "4.10.2222" I find the "Product type : Unable to get information" and "Windows 98 (UNRECOGNISED VERSION)" bits very curious. Thanks for your assistance and advice. - Alan |
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Alan, I thought that the A always had spaces around it in 98SE and with the
B there is always no space. Any idea why Microsoft did this or is this not the case in all computers? "Alan Edwards" wrote in message ... FWIW, mine is a little different, though this may not be significant. (Win98 SE, no sec update CD installed) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion - ProductName = "Microsoft Windows 98" - ProductType = "101" - SubVersionNumber = " A " - Version = "Windows 98" - VersionNumber = "4.10.2222" Note the spaces around " A " rather than the "A" you mention. ...Alan -- Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/index.html In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, Alan Raskin wrote: I am experiencing a curious problem trying to run the security application that came with a new USB 2.0 flash drive from Kingston (DataTraveler Elite, 1GB, 24/14 MBps). Even though the drive is supposed to work with Win98SE and even though someone from their technical support says that it works fine on their system, the application keeps exiting after telling me that it "doesn't support this version of Windows". After an email dialogue with their support, I began to suspect that the Windows Security Update CD from last February had messed things up by updating the version from 4.10.2222A (Win98SE) to 4.10.2222B (Win98SE Security Update). However, updating the subversion number stored in the registry from "B" to "A" (see below) didn't solve the problem, as I get the same error message. Kingston support has already suggested that I return the drive, so I don't anticipate that they will provide any further details regarding exactly what the security application is looking at when it decides that I am not running Win98SE. So...I'd like to request that people running Win98SE, both with and without the Security Update CD installed, send me information regarding their version of Windows, especially where it differs from mine; my information is as follows: System control panel applet: Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition 4.10.2222B Registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion - ProductName = "Microsoft Windows 98" - ProductType = "115" - SubVersionNumber = "B" - Version = "Windows 98" - VersionNumber = "4.10.2222" I find the "Product type : Unable to get information" and "Windows 98 (UNRECOGNISED VERSION)" bits very curious. Thanks for your assistance and advice. - Alan |
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Alan Edwards wrote:
FWIW, mine is a little different, though this may not be significant. (Win98 SE, no sec update CD installed) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion - ProductName = "Microsoft Windows 98" - ProductType = "101" - SubVersionNumber = " A " - Version = "Windows 98" - VersionNumber = "4.10.2222" Note the spaces around " A " rather than the "A" you mention. ...Alan Eureka! Changing the SubVersionNumber to " A " instead of "B" or "A" did the trick! Of course, I now find the security application is incompatible with my USB 2.0 CardBus adapter, but it works fine when I instead use the built-in USB 1.1 port. But that is a known issue with the application, so I can't complain (although I will, of course :-). Thanks for your information, Alan. I knew that it would turn out to be as simple as that. - Alan |
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Alan Raskin wrote:
Alan Edwards wrote: FWIW, mine is a little different, though this may not be significant. (Win98 SE, no sec update CD installed) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion - ProductName = "Microsoft Windows 98" - ProductType = "101" - SubVersionNumber = " A " - Version = "Windows 98" - VersionNumber = "4.10.2222" Note the spaces around " A " rather than the "A" you mention. ...Alan Eureka! Changing the SubVersionNumber to " A " instead of "B" or "A" did the trick! Of course, I now find the security application is incompatible with my USB 2.0 CardBus adapter, but it works fine when I instead use the built-in USB 1.1 port. But that is a known issue with the application, so I can't complain (although I will, of course :-). Thanks for your information, Alan. I knew that it would turn out to be as simple as that. - Alan For completeness and in case it ever becomes relevant, could someone who has Win98SE with the Security Updates CD installed let me know whether the updated SubVersionNumber is "B" or " B "? Thanks. - Alan |
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Mine is 4.10.2222B
I am not sure if this is the answer you were looking for. "Alan Raskin" wrote in message ... Alan Raskin wrote: Alan Edwards wrote: FWIW, mine is a little different, though this may not be significant. (Win98 SE, no sec update CD installed) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion - ProductName = "Microsoft Windows 98" - ProductType = "101" - SubVersionNumber = " A " - Version = "Windows 98" - VersionNumber = "4.10.2222" Note the spaces around " A " rather than the "A" you mention. ...Alan Eureka! Changing the SubVersionNumber to " A " instead of "B" or "A" did the trick! Of course, I now find the security application is incompatible with my USB 2.0 CardBus adapter, but it works fine when I instead use the built-in USB 1.1 port. But that is a known issue with the application, so I can't complain (although I will, of course :-). Thanks for your information, Alan. I knew that it would turn out to be as simple as that. - Alan For completeness and in case it ever becomes relevant, could someone who has Win98SE with the Security Updates CD installed let me know whether the updated SubVersionNumber is "B" or " B "? Thanks. - Alan |
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It looks like "B".
Have a read of a couple of these: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...number+b+win98 ....Alan -- Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/index.html In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, Alan Raskin wrote: Alan Raskin wrote: For completeness and in case it ever becomes relevant, could someone who has Win98SE with the Security Updates CD installed let me know whether the updated SubVersionNumber is "B" or " B "? Thanks. - Alan |
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