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  #11  
Old January 24th 07, 01:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
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Default USB 2.0

DD, you say your PC is a laptop - with PCMCIA?

4 port USB 2.0 - PCMCIA card - e.g. UK outlet :-
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...roductID=47728
Cheap (GBP 9.27 or about $5) and simple solution. Comes with drivers
(98/2000/ME/XP) Works at full USB 2.0 speeds.

Then add a USB WiFi stick e.g :-
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/produ...oductID=534352
and you're back in the 21st Century.

I'm sure you can find US equivalents. My old Toshiba Tecra 8000 (circa
1997/8) with inbuilt single USB 1.1 port, designed for Win98 but now with
WinMe installed, works a treat with the extra 4 USB 2.0 ports at USB 2.0
speeds

Hope that also answers Shane's point elsewhere on the thread.

HTH

Mart



"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks for responding, Zee, Shane. Norman, George and Harry.

I thought it might just involve a driver download, but alas, nothing is so
simple. In fact, the mobo does not support USB 2.0. So dearly beloved will
have to plug her MP3 player into my Desktop to charge the battery. I
assume we can purchase a USB 2.0 Controller via a pcmia slot, although I'm
not sure if I understood that even with that, we will be limited to USB
1.1 speeds. Haven't looked into it but can probably also purchase a
docking station, which may be the most cost effective option.

Again Gentlemen, thanks for the education, it was greatly appreciated.

Dan

"webster72n" wrote in message
...

"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Haven't had the need for USB 2.0 for our Win Me laptop until recently so

had
never really paid much attention to it. Evidently we need USB 2.0 to
have
the ability to charge an MP3 player. If I understand it correctly, for
Win
98SE, one needs to buy software but for Win Me and later O/S's, the

software
may be downloaded by way of updating from the Microsoft website. If so,
I
can't seem to find that at the Microsoft download site.


Don't think you will either, Dan, because they terminated support for
WinME,
besides those things which have been pointed out already by Zee, Shane
and
George. H.

Would appreciate
guidance at your convenience.

Many thanks

Dan









  #12  
Old January 24th 07, 02:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mike M
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Default USB 2.0

Even cheaper on eBay. vbg
--
Mike M


Mart wrote:

DD, you say your PC is a laptop - with PCMCIA?

4 port USB 2.0 - PCMCIA card - e.g. UK outlet :-
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...roductID=47728
Cheap (GBP 9.27 or about $5) and simple solution. Comes with drivers
(98/2000/ME/XP) Works at full USB 2.0 speeds.

Then add a USB WiFi stick e.g :-
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/produ...oductID=534352
and you're back in the 21st Century.

I'm sure you can find US equivalents. My old Toshiba Tecra 8000 (circa
1997/8) with inbuilt single USB 1.1 port, designed for Win98 but now
with WinMe installed, works a treat with the extra 4 USB 2.0 ports at
USB 2.0 speeds

Hope that also answers Shane's point elsewhere on the thread.


  #13  
Old January 24th 07, 02:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
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Posts: 1,190
Default USB 2.0 - addendum

NB - perhaps I should clarify that the original single USB 1.1 port still
only works at USB 1.1 speeds. It is the PCMCIA card which run at USB 2.0
speeds.

Mart

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  #14  
Old January 24th 07, 02:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mike M
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Default USB 2.0

A USB 2.0 port will operate as a USB 2.0 port provided the necessary USB
2.0 drivers are installed. Much of what Norman said has no relevance to
your problem other than that like Norman I admit to being surprised that
your mp3 player requires a USB 2.0 connection to allow it to be charged as
the voltages and current are the same regardless of whether the port is
USB 1, 1.1 or 2.0.

The difference between USB 1.0/1.1 and 2.0 is their speed with USB 1.1
rated at a maximum of 12Mbps and USB 2.0 480Mbps. That 480Mbps is not
really achievable is immaterial but 120Mbps is and that is ten times
faster than the theoretical maximum of USB 1.1. Note that some USB 2.0
Flash drives can hit 30MB/s (about 240Mbps) and some hard drives a little
more (40MB/s) but transfer rates depend on what other activity there is on
the PCI bus as well as the file make up, small files being slower to
transfer than large.
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

Thanks Mike. Just an additional question because I'm not sure if I
understood Norman's point. If I should go the PCMIA route, will it
perform to USB 2.0 or will it be limited to the USB 1.1 speeds.

Thanks again.


  #15  
Old January 24th 07, 02:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Shane
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Posts: 480
Default USB 2.0

Hi Mike. I just let Rosie out and saw it's snowing (and so far settling!)
Acourst its warmer where you are isn't it.


Shane


Mike M wrote:
Even cheaper on eBay. vbg

DD, you say your PC is a laptop - with PCMCIA?

4 port USB 2.0 - PCMCIA card - e.g. UK outlet :-
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...roductID=47728
Cheap (GBP 9.27 or about $5) and simple solution. Comes with drivers
(98/2000/ME/XP) Works at full USB 2.0 speeds.

Then add a USB WiFi stick e.g :-
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/produ...oductID=534352
and you're back in the 21st Century.

I'm sure you can find US equivalents. My old Toshiba Tecra 8000
(circa 1997/8) with inbuilt single USB 1.1 port, designed for Win98
but now with WinMe installed, works a treat with the extra 4 USB 2.0
ports at USB 2.0 speeds

Hope that also answers Shane's point elsewhere on the thread.



  #16  
Old January 24th 07, 02:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mike M
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Posts: 2,047
Default USB 2.0

Shane wrote:

Hi Mike. I just let Rosie out and saw it's snowing (and so far
settling!) Acourst its warmer where you are isn't it.


Warmer! It's bl$$dy freezing. :-)
--
Mike M


  #17  
Old January 24th 07, 03:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Shane
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Posts: 480
Default USB 2.0

Mike M wrote:
Shane wrote:

Hi Mike. I just let Rosie out and saw it's snowing (and so far
settling!) Acourst its warmer where you are isn't it.


Warmer! It's bl$$dy freezing. :-)


g


Shane


  #18  
Old January 24th 07, 04:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
[email protected]
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Default USB 2.0



On Jan 24, 1:33 pm, "Shane" wrote:
Mike M wrote:
Shane wrote:


Hi Mike. I just let Rosie out and saw it's snowing (and so far
settling!) Acourst its warmer where you are isn't it.


Warmer! It's bl$$dy freezing. :-)g


Shane


Don't complain too hard about the cold. Last Saturday and Sunday I
measured 41 deg C and 42 deg C at my place west of Sydney. I'll swap
you some of my hot for some of your cold!!!

Cheers,
BarryG

  #19  
Old January 24th 07, 02:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Dapper Dan
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Posts: 166
Default USB 2.0

Thanks for the clarification Mike. It certainly looks like it might be worth
my while to go the PCMCIA route, especially at those prices.

Dan

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
A USB 2.0 port will operate as a USB 2.0 port provided the necessary USB
2.0 drivers are installed. Much of what Norman said has no relevance to
your problem other than that like Norman I admit to being surprised that
your mp3 player requires a USB 2.0 connection to allow it to be charged as
the voltages and current are the same regardless of whether the port is USB
1, 1.1 or 2.0.

The difference between USB 1.0/1.1 and 2.0 is their speed with USB 1.1
rated at a maximum of 12Mbps and USB 2.0 480Mbps. That 480Mbps is not
really achievable is immaterial but 120Mbps is and that is ten times
faster than the theoretical maximum of USB 1.1. Note that some USB 2.0
Flash drives can hit 30MB/s (about 240Mbps) and some hard drives a little
more (40MB/s) but transfer rates depend on what other activity there is on
the PCI bus as well as the file make up, small files being slower to
transfer than large.
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

Thanks Mike. Just an additional question because I'm not sure if I
understood Norman's point. If I should go the PCMIA route, will it
perform to USB 2.0 or will it be limited to the USB 1.1 speeds.

Thanks again.




  #20  
Old January 24th 07, 02:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Dapper Dan
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Posts: 166
Default USB 2.0

Yes Mart, cable internet via a PCMCIA connection.

I think you went the wrong way in the conversion. 9 Pounds would equate to
$20 Cdn but still worth checking out.

Thanks

Dan
"Mart" wrote in message
...
DD, you say your PC is a laptop - with PCMCIA?

4 port USB 2.0 - PCMCIA card - e.g. UK outlet :-
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...roductID=47728
Cheap (GBP 9.27 or about $5) and simple solution. Comes with drivers
(98/2000/ME/XP) Works at full USB 2.0 speeds.

Then add a USB WiFi stick e.g :-
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/produ...oductID=534352
and you're back in the 21st Century.

I'm sure you can find US equivalents. My old Toshiba Tecra 8000 (circa
1997/8) with inbuilt single USB 1.1 port, designed for Win98 but now with
WinMe installed, works a treat with the extra 4 USB 2.0 ports at USB 2.0
speeds

Hope that also answers Shane's point elsewhere on the thread.

HTH

Mart



"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks for responding, Zee, Shane. Norman, George and Harry.

I thought it might just involve a driver download, but alas, nothing is
so simple. In fact, the mobo does not support USB 2.0. So dearly beloved
will have to plug her MP3 player into my Desktop to charge the battery. I
assume we can purchase a USB 2.0 Controller via a pcmia slot, although
I'm not sure if I understood that even with that, we will be limited to
USB 1.1 speeds. Haven't looked into it but can probably also purchase a
docking station, which may be the most cost effective option.

Again Gentlemen, thanks for the education, it was greatly appreciated.

Dan

"webster72n" wrote in message
...

"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Haven't had the need for USB 2.0 for our Win Me laptop until recently
so
had
never really paid much attention to it. Evidently we need USB 2.0 to
have
the ability to charge an MP3 player. If I understand it correctly, for
Win
98SE, one needs to buy software but for Win Me and later O/S's, the
software
may be downloaded by way of updating from the Microsoft website. If so,
I
can't seem to find that at the Microsoft download site.

Don't think you will either, Dan, because they terminated support for
WinME,
besides those things which have been pointed out already by Zee, Shane
and
George. H.

Would appreciate
guidance at your convenience.

Many thanks

Dan











 




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