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Old April 18th 05, 06:44 AM
boni
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i do a scan disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week, and it takes more than
6hrs. and yes i did the delete/temp/history first before going into safe
mode. is there a reason why it takes so long ? any suggestions ?
thanks. boni.


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Old April 18th 05, 09:40 AM
Galen
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In ,
boni had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

i do a scan disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week, and it takes more
than 6hrs. and yes i did the delete/temp/history first before going
into safe mode. is there a reason why it takes so long ? any
suggestions ?
thanks. boni.


Perhaps you have a bunch of stuff on your drive? Your drive is also being
used for other things? Have you tried defragging in safe mode? Does it often
restart because it says contents changed or the like? Is your drive rather
full of stuff? If so then do you have the option of burning it to CD or
installing a slave drive and storing non-application files and media files
on the slaved drive?

Galen
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Old April 18th 05, 10:51 AM
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"Galen" wrote

boni had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

i do a scan disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week, and it takes more
than 6hrs. and yes i did the delete/temp/history first before going
into safe mode. is there a reason why it takes so long ? any
suggestions ?
thanks. boni.


Perhaps you have a bunch of stuff on your drive? Your drive is also being
used for other things? Have you tried defragging in safe mode? Does it
often restart because it says contents changed or the like? Is your drive
rather full of stuff? If so then do you have the option of burning it to
CD or installing a slave drive and storing non-application files and media
files on the slaved drive?

Galen


Got a reading comprehension problem? The OP wrote and I quote: "i do a scan
disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week"

To the OP: did you do a clean up before the scan disk and defrag? How full
is your disk drive?

Alias


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Old April 18th 05, 02:17 PM
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In ,
Alias had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

"Galen" wrote

boni had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

i do a scan disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week, and it takes more
than 6hrs. and yes i did the delete/temp/history first before going
into safe mode. is there a reason why it takes so long ? any
suggestions ?
thanks. boni.


Perhaps you have a bunch of stuff on your drive? Your drive is also
being used for other things? Have you tried defragging in safe mode?
Does it often restart because it says contents changed or the like?
Is your drive rather full of stuff? If so then do you have the
option of burning it to CD or installing a slave drive and storing
non-application files and media files on the slaved drive?

Galen


Got a reading comprehension problem? The OP wrote and I quote: "i do
a scan disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week"

To the OP: did you do a clean up before the scan disk and defrag? How
full is your disk drive?

Alias


Got a reading comprehension problem? The OP wrote and I do quote "and yes I
did the delete/temp/history..." (Which is certainly a clean up.) I also
point out that you asked basically the same questions I did.

You posted this why?

Me? Personally? I can admit that I missed the safe mode bit. I'm not exactly
sure how I did but I did. It's not unknown for me to miss something and when
I do I'm quite happy to admit that I did because I've never once maintained
that I was anything close to perfect. But I don't intentionally kvetch and
then post questions already asked and then repeat the same sort of mistake
by failing to comprehend the entire post from the OP.

Enough said?

Galen
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Old April 18th 05, 03:03 PM
Alias
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"Galen" wrote in message
...
In ,
Alias had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

"Galen" wrote

boni had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

i do a scan disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week, and it takes more
than 6hrs. and yes i did the delete/temp/history first before going
into safe mode. is there a reason why it takes so long ? any
suggestions ?
thanks. boni.

Perhaps you have a bunch of stuff on your drive? Your drive is also
being used for other things?


In safe mode???

Have you tried defragging in safe mode?


snicker

Does it often restart because it says contents changed or the like?


In safe mode???

Is your drive rather full of stuff? If so then do you have the
option of burning it to CD or installing a slave drive and storing
non-application files and media files on the slaved drive?

Galen


Got a reading comprehension problem? The OP wrote and I quote: "i do
a scan disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week"

To the OP: did you do a clean up before the scan disk and defrag? How
full is your disk drive?

Alias


Got a reading comprehension problem? The OP wrote and I do quote "and yes
I did the delete/temp/history..." (Which is certainly a clean up.)


Not the clean up I was referring to. I mean the one that is located at
Start/Programs/Assessories/System Tools/Clean up.

point out that you asked basically the same questions I did.


Only the question about how full the drive is. And, so effin what?

You posted this why?


The mood struck me.

Me? Personally? I can admit that I missed the safe mode bit. I'm not
exactly sure how I did but I did.


Reading comprehension problem?

It's not unknown for me to miss something and when I do I'm quite happy
to admit that I did because I've never once maintained that I was anything
close to perfect. But I don't intentionally kvetch and then post questions
already asked and then repeat the same sort of mistake by failing to
comprehend the entire post from the OP.

Enough said?

Galen


So far. Hey, if you don't like what I post, please use your kill file.

Alias


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Old April 18th 05, 05:46 PM
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In ,
Alias had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

So far. Hey, if you don't like what I post, please use your kill file.


Nah, I did that once. I felt bad. Besides, someday you may post something
that is valuable and something I can learn from. I'd miss that if I'd
deleted your posts automatically. I wouldn't want to deprive myself from the
chance to learn something new.

As I'd mentioned... I missed it... I'm not always right and make no claims
of being right all the time. I'm right often enough to warrant my posting
however.

Description of the Disk Cleanup Tool:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=186099

If you look and see what it does (as pertains to cleaning up space) you will
see that the OP has posted that they've cleaned out as much data as they're
wanting to clean. The few MB of data left over from possibly leaving
accessibility options installed isn't going to make a great deal of
difference. In a case of 6 hours or more it's certainly not going to make a
difference. Running said tool isn't going to make much of a difference in
the scope of things when the majority of disk space will surely have been
cleaned by doing as the OP has done already.

Just to be more me-like... You are, I hope, aware that even though I missed
the OP's post about the safe mode bit my questions are still quite valid and
that malware has been known to run in safe mode? The snickers about that
only show that you're probably not aware of this. While the recommendations
to remove malware in safe mode are correct it's only because it's more
likely that you'll be able to remove it easier and not at all because it's
impossible for the processes to still be running. If the defrag is stopping
due to contents changing while in safe mode it's actually a good sign that
there's something more sinister afoot. Viruses running as explorer.exe? Or
attached to it? This process, for one, starts with safe mode... Of course it
does, you *need* explorer.exe to have a shell to operate in for the most
part. (Okay, you don't really NEED it but as defrag is a GUI operation
you'll certainly need it to defrag.) The beauty is that on 9x/ME you don't
even get to see the running process listed while in XP, for instance, you'd
get to see a generic listing of svchost.exe... Fun fun and we haven't even
touched on rootkits yet?

Do enjoy your day. No, I don't have to like your posts nor agree with them.
It's a public forum and you're free to do as you'd like within certain
boundries and you can even violate those boundries if you want, the most
that will happen is a post gets deleted or some such. Nothing major but I'm
certainly not going to killfile you. I did that once, felt bad, recently
removed it, and sure enough the very next post I read was actually full of
good information. I guess I'm either above it or just not thin skinned
enough to worry about it.

Galen
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Old April 18th 05, 06:14 PM
Rick T
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boni wrote:
i do a scan disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week, and it takes more than
6hrs. and yes i did the delete/temp/history first before going into safe
mode. is there a reason why it takes so long ? any suggestions ?
thanks. boni.



If you have a large drive it's going to take awhile. Things to turn
*off* to speed it up are "surface scan" for scandisk and something else
for defrag (don't recall and don't have it in front of me). Both of
which should be used occasionally though.

HTH
Rick
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Old April 18th 05, 10:49 PM
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One thing to note is that Defrag in Safe Mode will ALWAYS be slower than
defrag in Normal Mode - it's running in a much smaller memory space.



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"Rick T" wrote in message
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boni wrote:
i do a scan disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week, and it takes more than
6hrs. and yes i did the delete/temp/history first before going into safe
mode. is there a reason why it takes so long ? any suggestions ?
thanks. boni.



If you have a large drive it's going to take awhile. Things to turn *off*
to speed it up are "surface scan" for scandisk and something else for
defrag (don't recall and don't have it in front of me). Both of which
should be used occasionally though.

HTH
Rick



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Old April 22nd 05, 06:07 AM
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"boni" wrote:
i do a scan disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week, and it takes more
than
6hrs. and yes i did the delete/temp/history first before going into
safe
mode. is there a reason why it takes so long ? any suggestions ?
thanks. boni.


You shouldn’t have to run defrag in safe mode. I think defrag
requires 16% available space to run properly. Why don’t you
downloading a free copy of a third party defrag program and try to see
if that works better for you. 6 hours is way too long.

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Old May 2nd 05, 02:04 AM
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one week later......
did the same again. this time defrag took about 8hrs. on safe mode to
complete.
honestly, in respond to your question .. drive used for other things ?? or
burning to cd ?? or media files to slave drive, maybe all the suggestions
made by you have the solution. except ..i wouldn't know where to begin and
resolve the problem. so that when i defrag on safe mode it wouldn't take so
long. since i am doing it weekly. no i don't have adware nor spyware . i
have ez av/firewall/ spybot. simple/uncomplicated directions ..appreciated.
thank you. boni.
"Galen" wrote in message
...
In ,
boni had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

i do a scan disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week, and it takes more
than 6hrs. and yes i did the delete/temp/history first before going
into safe mode. is there a reason why it takes so long ? any
suggestions ?
thanks. boni.


Perhaps you have a bunch of stuff on your drive? Your drive is also being
used for other things? Have you tried defragging in safe mode? Does it

often
restart because it says contents changed or the like? Is your drive rather
full of stuff? If so then do you have the option of burning it to CD or
installing a slave drive and storing non-application files and media files
on the slaved drive?

Galen
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Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.




 




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