windows 98 floppy disk version

It finally works!!! Thank you.
And also everyone else who took the time to respond to my posts.

"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:22:02 -0700, DanT

sorry that I'm not very good with all the command line stuff so I need you to
tell me exactly how to do all of this stuff, like for example I have no Idea
how to copy the contents of my floppy disk to a c:\DOSMODE

MD C:\DOSMODE
Copy A:\*.* C:\DOSMODE

You may also have to edit two files on the new hard drive, so that
they will point to CD-ROM drivers, etc.

and I don't have a blank Hard Disk

By "blank hard disk", I was thinking of context, i.e. where you
haven't yet created anything on the system (i.e. you are installing
the OS "fresh", rather than doing a repair install)

In that case, the procedure to install Windows from scratch, onto a
freshly-formatted (thus empty) hard drive, would be:

Boot off the Emergency Boot Diskette
Enter the following commands...

Sys C:
MD C:\DOSMODE
Copy A:\*.* C:\DOSMODE
Edit

Now that you are in Edit, create the following file...

Device=C:\DOSMODE\HiMem.xyx
Device=C:\DOSMODE\OakCDROM.sys /D:CD1

....and then go File, SaveAs, save as C:\CONFIG.SYS
Next, create this file content...

@Echo Off
Path C:\DOSMODE
LH MSCDEx /D:CD1
LH SmartDrv

....and save that as C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT and exit Edit.

Now shut down the PC, and swap the diskette drive for the CD drive,
then boot the PC. If all has gone well, the PC should boot into DOS
mode with driver support for the CD-ROM drive.

Now insert the Windows 98 CD, and enter the following commands...

MD C:\WIN98
Copy D:\WIN98\*.* C:\WIN98
Attrib -r C:\WIN98\*.*

....assuming all of your hard drive is C: and your CD-ROM drive letter
is D: - if you skip the last (Attrib) command, it's no big deal.

Now you can either leave the CD-ROM drive in place, swap it for the
diskette drive, or leave neither in place, as you start the install:

C:
CD \WIN98
Setup

From there on, just follow the dots. You will end up with an
installation that "thinks" it came from C:\WIN98, rather than the
CD-ROM drive, so if it even needs files from the installation set, it
can find them without nagging you for a drive that may not be there.

When done, you'll want to clean up the DOS-orientated startup files.
You can edit C:\Config.sys and C:\Autoexec.bat in Notepad to remove
the lines you added before doing the installation, or disable the
lines by putting the word REM in front of them.



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The most accurate diagnostic instrument
in medicine is the Retrospectoscope
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"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
The retail versions of 98 were not bootable--many OEM versions were
bootable.

Ah, right, didn't know that: either my (OEM) ones weren't, or, more likely,
I've always used them in a system that can't boot from CD (or wasn't set to
do so first).
[]
\WIN98 directory (root files only) from the CD to somewhere* on the HD,
then running setup from there. Note that the CD drive will probably
appear as E:.

*"somewhere" is often recommended to be \WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS (which
requires knowledge of the DOS commands md and probably cd, but is
trivial). No-one, however, has ever explained to me _why_ this location
is recommended.
[]
Any thoughts on that one (i. e. _why_ people recommend that particular
location)?

Anyway, glad DanT finally succeeded.

Hi,

I need your help again.
Last time I tried your suggestion, I had Windows 98 installed and I did
everything you told me to do, it worked and I'm very grateful.

But now i decided to clear my hard disk completely of everything, it was
full of junk and just took up a bunch of space.

So now with an Empty, and Formatted hard disk, I tried to do the same thing
again but it didn't work, so now I can't get my computer to recognize my cd
drive (it always says "Invalid drive specification.")

Could you please help me and once again i'm asking you to be as specific as
possible.
Thank You



"DanT" wrote:

It finally works!!! Thank you.
And also everyone else who took the time to respond to my posts.

"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:22:02 -0700, DanT

sorry that I'm not very good with all the command line stuff so I need you to
tell me exactly how to do all of this stuff, like for example I have no Idea
how to copy the contents of my floppy disk to a c:\DOSMODE

MD C:\DOSMODE
Copy A:\*.* C:\DOSMODE

You may also have to edit two files on the new hard drive, so that
they will point to CD-ROM drivers, etc.

and I don't have a blank Hard Disk

By "blank hard disk", I was thinking of context, i.e. where you
haven't yet created anything on the system (i.e. you are installing
the OS "fresh", rather than doing a repair install)

In that case, the procedure to install Windows from scratch, onto a
freshly-formatted (thus empty) hard drive, would be:

Boot off the Emergency Boot Diskette
Enter the following commands...

Sys C:
MD C:\DOSMODE
Copy A:\*.* C:\DOSMODE
Edit

Now that you are in Edit, create the following file...

Device=C:\DOSMODE\HiMem.xyx
Device=C:\DOSMODE\OakCDROM.sys /D:CD1

....and then go File, SaveAs, save as C:\CONFIG.SYS
Next, create this file content...

@Echo Off
Path C:\DOSMODE
LH MSCDEx /D:CD1
LH SmartDrv

....and save that as C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT and exit Edit.

Now shut down the PC, and swap the diskette drive for the CD drive,
then boot the PC. If all has gone well, the PC should boot into DOS
mode with driver support for the CD-ROM drive.

Now insert the Windows 98 CD, and enter the following commands...

MD C:\WIN98
Copy D:\WIN98\*.* C:\WIN98
Attrib -r C:\WIN98\*.*

....assuming all of your hard drive is C: and your CD-ROM drive letter
is D: - if you skip the last (Attrib) command, it's no big deal.

Now you can either leave the CD-ROM drive in place, swap it for the
diskette drive, or leave neither in place, as you start the install:

C:
CD \WIN98
Setup

From there on, just follow the dots. You will end up with an
installation that "thinks" it came from C:\WIN98, rather than the
CD-ROM drive, so if it even needs files from the installation set, it
can find them without nagging you for a drive that may not be there.

When done, you'll want to clean up the DOS-orientated startup files.
You can edit C:\Config.sys and C:\Autoexec.bat in Notepad to remove
the lines you added before doing the installation, or disable the
lines by putting the word REM in front of them.



------------ ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
The most accurate diagnostic instrument
in medicine is the Retrospectoscope
------------ ----- ---- --- -- - - - -

"DanT" wrote in message ...
Hi,
I need your help again.
Last time I tried your suggestion, I had Windows 98 installed and I did
everything you told me to do, it worked and I'm very grateful.
But now i decided to clear my hard disk completely of everything, it was
full of junk and just took up a bunch of space.
So now with an Empty, and Formatted hard disk, I tried to do the same thing
again but it didn't work, so now I can't get my computer to recognize my cd
drive (it always says "Invalid drive specification.")
Could you please help me and once again i'm asking you to be as specific as
possible.
Thank You

Go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and create a Windows 98 boot
floppy. Use it to start the computer, select "Start with CD support", insert your
Windows 98 CD, type "setup" and press "Enter".

Ben

For information on installing W98, go to:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html

--
Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2007


"DanT" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I need your help again.
Last time I tried your suggestion, I had Windows 98 installed and I did
everything you told me to do, it worked and I'm very grateful.

But now i decided to clear my hard disk completely of everything, it was
full of junk and just took up a bunch of space.

So now with an Empty, and Formatted hard disk, I tried to do the same
thing
again but it didn't work, so now I can't get my computer to recognize my
cd
drive (it always says "Invalid drive specification.")

Could you please help me and once again i'm asking you to be as specific
as
possible.
Thank You



"DanT" wrote:

It finally works!!! Thank you.
And also everyone else who took the time to respond to my posts.

"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:22:02 -0700, DanT

sorry that I'm not very good with all the command line stuff so I need
you to
tell me exactly how to do all of this stuff, like for example I have
no Idea
how to copy the contents of my floppy disk to a c:\DOSMODE

MD C:\DOSMODE
Copy A:\*.* C:\DOSMODE

You may also have to edit two files on the new hard drive, so that
they will point to CD-ROM drivers, etc.

and I don't have a blank Hard Disk

By "blank hard disk", I was thinking of context, i.e. where you
haven't yet created anything on the system (i.e. you are installing
the OS "fresh", rather than doing a repair install)

In that case, the procedure to install Windows from scratch, onto a
freshly-formatted (thus empty) hard drive, would be:

Boot off the Emergency Boot Diskette
Enter the following commands...

Sys C:
MD C:\DOSMODE
Copy A:\*.* C:\DOSMODE
Edit

Now that you are in Edit, create the following file...

Device=C:\DOSMODE\HiMem.xyx
Device=C:\DOSMODE\OakCDROM.sys /D:CD1

....and then go File, SaveAs, save as C:\CONFIG.SYS
Next, create this file content...

@Echo Off
Path C:\DOSMODE
LH MSCDEx /D:CD1
LH SmartDrv

....and save that as C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT and exit Edit.

Now shut down the PC, and swap the diskette drive for the CD drive,
then boot the PC. If all has gone well, the PC should boot into DOS
mode with driver support for the CD-ROM drive.

Now insert the Windows 98 CD, and enter the following commands...

MD C:\WIN98
Copy D:\WIN98\*.* C:\WIN98
Attrib -r C:\WIN98\*.*

....assuming all of your hard drive is C: and your CD-ROM drive letter
is D: - if you skip the last (Attrib) command, it's no big deal.

Now you can either leave the CD-ROM drive in place, swap it for the
diskette drive, or leave neither in place, as you start the install:

C:
CD \WIN98
Setup

From there on, just follow the dots. You will end up with an
installation that "thinks" it came from C:\WIN98, rather than the
CD-ROM drive, so if it even needs files from the installation set, it
can find them without nagging you for a drive that may not be there.

When done, you'll want to clean up the DOS-orientated startup files.
You can edit C:\Config.sys and C:\Autoexec.bat in Notepad to remove
the lines you added before doing the installation, or disable the
lines by putting the word REM in front of them.



------------ ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
The most accurate diagnostic instrument
in medicine is the Retrospectoscope
------------ ----- ---- --- -- - - - -

Was it necessary to quote the entire thread in your reply Ron?

Are you the self appointed network cop? Is it necessary for you to ask?

--
Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2007


"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
Was it necessary to quote the entire thread in your reply Ron?

Ron Badour wrote:

Was it necessary to quote the entire thread in your reply Ron?

Are you the self appointed network cop?

Why can't you just answer the question? Obviously there is no such
thing as a network cop, and I don't claim to be one.

Is it necessary for you to ask?

I just want to know why some people have such poor posting style. Is
it intentional, or just a lack of effort?

Enjoy it, people do differ, that's normal, makes it interesting, the things
that annoy you could be important to others. If we were all the same, nobody
would annoy you, but you also never would get an impulse to do something.
If you want average and "normal" maybe you're wrong

"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
Ron Badour wrote:

Was it necessary to quote the entire thread in your reply Ron?

Are you the self appointed network cop?

Why can't you just answer the question? Obviously there is no such
thing as a network cop, and I don't claim to be one.

Is it necessary for you to ask?

I just want to know why some people have such poor posting style. Is
it intentional, or just a lack of effort?

I just want to know why some people have such poor posting style. Is
it intentional, or just a lack of effort?

Actually I have a reason for doing it but I am not obligated to share
anything with you.

You have a lot of nerve criticizing anyone--you the master of hijacking
posts. You, the person who is critical of anyone who does not agree with
you or idiotic standards you embrace. You, who does such childish things
like referring to MS as Micro$haft. If you don't like the way I post, don't
read them. I only read yours when you direct them to me as I don't really
care what you have to say. If you never direct another question to me, it
will be too soon.

You now have your answer.

Ron Badour