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Old September 8th 05, 06:19 PM
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I could list everything I have tried... but this machine has been in
this state for weeks now and I have tried so many things.

I have used a few adware software components in an attempt to remove
any nasty components. Norton Anti-virus 2005, ad-aware and spybot have
all been used. A few minor things were found and removed. Removing
them were no help.

I just tried LSP-Fix.. it did not find any registry issues.

During the hangs I have monitored Explorer with Regmon and Filemon. I
have not been able see any unusal activities. But, I can rerun the
monitors and identify what the last activity is before the hang. But,
I think that will be of little help to anyone.

I'd like to know if anyone who has had this issue has ever solved it.

Thanks,

Craig

Noel Paton wrote:
(it doesn't necessarily mean that at all. It can be done from the in-disk
backup files - but that's a whole different ballgame)

you may have spyware
Such errors may be caused by spyware - download AdAware from
www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware, adware,
and other such nasties from your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Noel,

Thanks for the quick reply. I have not reinstalled ME as the machine
is an e-machine, which came with ME. To do so would mean reinstalling
the system image.

I have seen a few posts here and elsewhere on the web with similar (if
not the exact same issue)... eg.

http://www.computing.net/windowsme/w...rum/45014.html

Thanks,

Craig

Noel Paton wrote:
That magical word ME - and Explorer....

Have you by any chance reinstalled ME over itself after installing IE6??

Such symptoms are frequently the result of mistakenly attempting to
reinstall ME over itself without first reverting back to IE5.5 - the
resulting 'Version Soup' is almost impossible to repair, and the only
sure
way known is to completely remove IE and then reinstall whichever version
you require.

Instructions for this process are here
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/ReInIE.htm

Please post back if you need more details - preferably before attempting
the
process!!g




--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

wrote in message
ups.com...
I am refering to Explorer (not IE), though IE when launched does cause
Explorer to hang; just as launching Control Panel and any other service
using Explorer components.

The machine is using IE 6 (SP1). I have reviewed the ME critical
patches and have applied them to the system.

I have tried all the ports... no help, same results.

Explorer starts to hang shortly after the network cable is plugged into
the ethernet card. i.e. the system acts up immediately if the cable is
connected during boot--and the system runs fine without the cable
attached.

I had to use Firefox (for obvious reasons) and tried the
dslreports.com... and all comments were "looking good".

Thanks,

Craig



  #12  
Old September 8th 05, 07:28 PM
Noel Paton
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Norton -the magic word!! You may well find that if you get rid of that POS,
you'll get back to normal!


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

wrote in message
ups.com...
I could list everything I have tried... but this machine has been in
this state for weeks now and I have tried so many things.

I have used a few adware software components in an attempt to remove
any nasty components. Norton Anti-virus 2005, ad-aware and spybot have
all been used. A few minor things were found and removed. Removing
them were no help.

I just tried LSP-Fix.. it did not find any registry issues.

During the hangs I have monitored Explorer with Regmon and Filemon. I
have not been able see any unusal activities. But, I can rerun the
monitors and identify what the last activity is before the hang. But,
I think that will be of little help to anyone.

I'd like to know if anyone who has had this issue has ever solved it.

Thanks,

Craig

Noel Paton wrote:
(it doesn't necessarily mean that at all. It can be done from the in-disk
backup files - but that's a whole different ballgame)

you may have spyware
Such errors may be caused by spyware - download AdAware from
www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware,
adware,
and other such nasties from your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Noel,

Thanks for the quick reply. I have not reinstalled ME as the machine
is an e-machine, which came with ME. To do so would mean reinstalling
the system image.

I have seen a few posts here and elsewhere on the web with similar (if
not the exact same issue)... eg.

http://www.computing.net/windowsme/w...rum/45014.html

Thanks,

Craig

Noel Paton wrote:
That magical word ME - and Explorer....

Have you by any chance reinstalled ME over itself after installing
IE6??

Such symptoms are frequently the result of mistakenly attempting to
reinstall ME over itself without first reverting back to IE5.5 - the
resulting 'Version Soup' is almost impossible to repair, and the only
sure
way known is to completely remove IE and then reinstall whichever
version
you require.

Instructions for this process are here
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/ReInIE.htm

Please post back if you need more details - preferably before
attempting
the
process!!g




--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

wrote in message
ups.com...
I am refering to Explorer (not IE), though IE when launched does
cause
Explorer to hang; just as launching Control Panel and any other
service
using Explorer components.

The machine is using IE 6 (SP1). I have reviewed the ME critical
patches and have applied them to the system.

I have tried all the ports... no help, same results.

Explorer starts to hang shortly after the network cable is plugged
into
the ethernet card. i.e. the system acts up immediately if the cable
is
connected during boot--and the system runs fine without the cable
attached.

I had to use Firefox (for obvious reasons) and tried the
dslreports.com... and all comments were "looking good".

Thanks,

Craig





  #13  
Old September 8th 05, 08:14 PM
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Noel,

I already did... it was installed to see if it could locate any issues.
It was then uninstalled.

Noel Paton wrote:
Norton -the magic word!! You may well find that if you get rid of that POS,
you'll get back to normal!


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

wrote in message
ups.com...
I could list everything I have tried... but this machine has been in
this state for weeks now and I have tried so many things.

I have used a few adware software components in an attempt to remove
any nasty components. Norton Anti-virus 2005, ad-aware and spybot have
all been used. A few minor things were found and removed. Removing
them were no help.

I just tried LSP-Fix.. it did not find any registry issues.

During the hangs I have monitored Explorer with Regmon and Filemon. I
have not been able see any unusal activities. But, I can rerun the
monitors and identify what the last activity is before the hang. But,
I think that will be of little help to anyone.

I'd like to know if anyone who has had this issue has ever solved it.

Thanks,

Craig

Noel Paton wrote:
(it doesn't necessarily mean that at all. It can be done from the in-disk
backup files - but that's a whole different ballgame)

you may have spyware
Such errors may be caused by spyware - download AdAware from
www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware,
adware,
and other such nasties from your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Noel,

Thanks for the quick reply. I have not reinstalled ME as the machine
is an e-machine, which came with ME. To do so would mean reinstalling
the system image.

I have seen a few posts here and elsewhere on the web with similar (if
not the exact same issue)... eg.

http://www.computing.net/windowsme/w...rum/45014.html

Thanks,

Craig

Noel Paton wrote:
That magical word ME - and Explorer....

Have you by any chance reinstalled ME over itself after installing
IE6??

Such symptoms are frequently the result of mistakenly attempting to
reinstall ME over itself without first reverting back to IE5.5 - the
resulting 'Version Soup' is almost impossible to repair, and the only
sure
way known is to completely remove IE and then reinstall whichever
version
you require.

Instructions for this process are here
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/ReInIE.htm

Please post back if you need more details - preferably before
attempting
the
process!!g




--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

wrote in message
ups.com...
I am refering to Explorer (not IE), though IE when launched does
cause
Explorer to hang; just as launching Control Panel and any other
service
using Explorer components.

The machine is using IE 6 (SP1). I have reviewed the ME critical
patches and have applied them to the system.

I have tried all the ports... no help, same results.

Explorer starts to hang shortly after the network cable is plugged
into
the ethernet card. i.e. the system acts up immediately if the cable
is
connected during boot--and the system runs fine without the cable
attached.

I had to use Firefox (for obvious reasons) and tried the
dslreports.com... and all comments were "looking good".

Thanks,

Craig




  #14  
Old September 8th 05, 08:30 PM
Noel Paton
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Default

Just uninstalling Norton Anti-Virus is not enough - you then have to
Uninstall the rest of the Symantec malware.... and run the manual Removal
tool that they provide... and then do a manual registry clean... and then...
and then.....

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

wrote in message
oups.com...
Noel,

I already did... it was installed to see if it could locate any issues.
It was then uninstalled.

Noel Paton wrote:
Norton -the magic word!! You may well find that if you get rid of that
POS,
you'll get back to normal!


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

wrote in message
ups.com...
I could list everything I have tried... but this machine has been in
this state for weeks now and I have tried so many things.

I have used a few adware software components in an attempt to remove
any nasty components. Norton Anti-virus 2005, ad-aware and spybot have
all been used. A few minor things were found and removed. Removing
them were no help.

I just tried LSP-Fix.. it did not find any registry issues.

During the hangs I have monitored Explorer with Regmon and Filemon. I
have not been able see any unusal activities. But, I can rerun the
monitors and identify what the last activity is before the hang. But,
I think that will be of little help to anyone.

I'd like to know if anyone who has had this issue has ever solved it.

Thanks,

Craig

Noel Paton wrote:
(it doesn't necessarily mean that at all. It can be done from the
in-disk
backup files - but that's a whole different ballgame)

you may have spyware
Such errors may be caused by spyware - download AdAware from
www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to remove spyware,
adware,
and other such nasties from your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Noel,

Thanks for the quick reply. I have not reinstalled ME as the
machine
is an e-machine, which came with ME. To do so would mean
reinstalling
the system image.

I have seen a few posts here and elsewhere on the web with similar
(if
not the exact same issue)... eg.

http://www.computing.net/windowsme/w...rum/45014.html

Thanks,

Craig

Noel Paton wrote:
That magical word ME - and Explorer....

Have you by any chance reinstalled ME over itself after installing
IE6??

Such symptoms are frequently the result of mistakenly attempting to
reinstall ME over itself without first reverting back to IE5.5 -
the
resulting 'Version Soup' is almost impossible to repair, and the
only
sure
way known is to completely remove IE and then reinstall whichever
version
you require.

Instructions for this process are here
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/ReInIE.htm

Please post back if you need more details - preferably before
attempting
the
process!!g




--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's

wrote in message
ups.com...
I am refering to Explorer (not IE), though IE when launched does
cause
Explorer to hang; just as launching Control Panel and any other
service
using Explorer components.

The machine is using IE 6 (SP1). I have reviewed the ME critical
patches and have applied them to the system.

I have tried all the ports... no help, same results.

Explorer starts to hang shortly after the network cable is
plugged
into
the ethernet card. i.e. the system acts up immediately if the
cable
is
connected during boot--and the system runs fine without the cable
attached.

I had to use Firefox (for obvious reasons) and tried the
dslreports.com... and all comments were "looking good".

Thanks,

Craig






 




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