AntiVirus Programs Freezes

I am in desperate help to find a AV program that will not lock up my
computer, which I use rarely (hubby will use at times, I have a new XP)

I know it is old, and only have programs installed that are essential. Like
systray, lol.
Norton's, Trend, etc, will not work due to the requirements, as most new
anti viral programs wont.

Over the years I have not added any additional programs than what it came
with, so I can only surmise with the newer AVP, the windowsME has not been
able to keep up with the changing technology?

I disabled a ton of useless stuff in startup, 5 yrs ago that came with the
computer preinstalled, at the guidance of the windowsME tech support
installer...

I have 127.0 MB Ram which is what it came with, as you all know, most of the
AVP requires that or more.

I have tried most every AVP I could find, yet it still locks.

Done the safe mode scan disk, etc. empty the common files, i.e. temp,
history, etc. nothing helps .

Before I take the CPU to CompUSA to reformat, is there anything else we can
do from here to make this work?

I do not have any virus's, adware, etc. on the computer.

I have been coming to the tech boards for years to know how to check for the
above etc. This has been an ongoing problem,. since the computer grew older.
5 years old.
RAM - 127.0
GB - used 4.44
free 34.7

As a test I uninstalled whatever AVP (been trying quite a few here lately),
that was installed, and it did not lock up, for every AVP I installed, once
removed, it worked like a charm.

Lock Up= Freezes, can't control alt or esc, or anything, must cut off at
CPU.
(even bought another mouse just in case, wasn't the problem)
No conflicts showing in Device Manager.

I keep the computer updated with whatever patches, or installations they
still have for WinMe.

Any ideas?

Thanks

"Sue" wrote in message
...
I am in desperate help to find a AV program that will not lock up my
computer, which I use rarely (hubby will use at times, I have a new XP)
((..omitted..))
I have been coming to the tech boards for years to know how to check for
the
above etc. This has been an ongoing problem,. since the computer grew
older.
5 years old.
RAM - 127.0
GB - used 4.44
free 34.7

I had Windows ME running with Nortons AV (only, no other Nortons
utilities/features) on a 400MHz AMD with 128M of RAM and a 5G hard drive up
to a couple of months ago. The system isn't running now only because my son
(who had it has his apartment) now has access to his girlfriends computer
(much newer).

As a test I uninstalled whatever AVP (been trying quite a few here
lately),
that was installed, and it did not lock up, for every AVP I installed,
once
removed, it worked like a charm.

It sure sounds like it's got a conflict with something.

Lock Up= Freezes, can't control alt or esc, or anything, must cut off at
CPU.

When does it freeze? Right after "Starting windows," or after the splash
screen, or... ?

- Bill

Don't use the "active" stuff; just make sure you have a firewall then
run the AV program once a week or so.

AVG www.grisoft.com works fine with WinME as well as XP

Rick

Sue wrote:
I am in desperate help to find a AV program that will not lock up my
computer, which I use rarely (hubby will use at times, I have a new XP)

I know it is old, and only have programs installed that are essential. Like
systray, lol.
Norton's, Trend, etc, will not work due to the requirements, as most new
anti viral programs wont.

Over the years I have not added any additional programs than what it came
with, so I can only surmise with the newer AVP, the windowsME has not been
able to keep up with the changing technology?

I disabled a ton of useless stuff in startup, 5 yrs ago that came with the
computer preinstalled, at the guidance of the windowsME tech support
installer...

I have 127.0 MB Ram which is what it came with, as you all know, most of the
AVP requires that or more.

I have tried most every AVP I could find, yet it still locks.

Done the safe mode scan disk, etc. empty the common files, i.e. temp,
history, etc. nothing helps .

Before I take the CPU to CompUSA to reformat, is there anything else we can
do from here to make this work?

I do not have any virus's, adware, etc. on the computer.

I have been coming to the tech boards for years to know how to check for the
above etc. This has been an ongoing problem,. since the computer grew older.
5 years old.
RAM - 127.0
GB - used 4.44
free 34.7

As a test I uninstalled whatever AVP (been trying quite a few here lately),
that was installed, and it did not lock up, for every AVP I installed, once
removed, it worked like a charm.

Lock Up= Freezes, can't control alt or esc, or anything, must cut off at
CPU.
(even bought another mouse just in case, wasn't the problem)
No conflicts showing in Device Manager.

I keep the computer updated with whatever patches, or installations they
still have for WinMe.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Hi, Sue. Which firewall are you using? Did you remove the AVs programs
through add/remove programs? I've, in the past run AVG with ZoneAlarm and
those proggies fought each other to the bitter end. I'm now running Avast
along with ZoneAlarm (both free) in perfect harmony.

If you'd like to give Avast a whirl, it can be found he

http://avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

Good luck and let us know how things turn out, ok?

KB
"Sue" wrote in message
...
I am in desperate help to find a AV program that will not lock up my
computer, which I use rarely (hubby will use at times, I have a new XP)

I know it is old, and only have programs installed that are essential.
Like
systray, lol.
Norton's, Trend, etc, will not work due to the requirements, as most new
anti viral programs wont.

Over the years I have not added any additional programs than what it came
with, so I can only surmise with the newer AVP, the windowsME has not been
able to keep up with the changing technology?

I disabled a ton of useless stuff in startup, 5 yrs ago that came with the
computer preinstalled, at the guidance of the windowsME tech support
installer...

I have 127.0 MB Ram which is what it came with, as you all know, most of
the
AVP requires that or more.

I have tried most every AVP I could find, yet it still locks.

Done the safe mode scan disk, etc. empty the common files, i.e. temp,
history, etc. nothing helps .

Before I take the CPU to CompUSA to reformat, is there anything else we
can
do from here to make this work?

I do not have any virus's, adware, etc. on the computer.

I have been coming to the tech boards for years to know how to check for
the
above etc. This has been an ongoing problem,. since the computer grew
older.
5 years old.
RAM - 127.0
GB - used 4.44
free 34.7

As a test I uninstalled whatever AVP (been trying quite a few here
lately),
that was installed, and it did not lock up, for every AVP I installed,
once
removed, it worked like a charm.

Lock Up= Freezes, can't control alt or esc, or anything, must cut off at
CPU.
(even bought another mouse just in case, wasn't the problem)
No conflicts showing in Device Manager.

I keep the computer updated with whatever patches, or installations they
still have for WinMe.

Any ideas?

Thanks

freezes either when we cut it on, or during usage.
firewall?? I laugh, due to the fact that even when I installed that, it
happened.

What if I bought more RAM?

If there is a conflict, damn if I can find it.
I will try the suggestions and see what works. Thanks.
I have no firewall.
"William J. Leary Jr." wrote in message
...
"Sue" wrote in message
...
I am in desperate help to find a AV program that will not lock up my
computer, which I use rarely (hubby will use at times, I have a new XP)
((..omitted..))
I have been coming to the tech boards for years to know how to check for
the
above etc. This has been an ongoing problem,. since the computer grew
older.
5 years old.
RAM - 127.0
GB - used 4.44
free 34.7

I had Windows ME running with Nortons AV (only, no other Nortons
utilities/features) on a 400MHz AMD with 128M of RAM and a 5G hard drive
up
to a couple of months ago. The system isn't running now only because my
son
(who had it has his apartment) now has access to his girlfriends computer
(much newer).

As a test I uninstalled whatever AVP (been trying quite a few here
lately),
that was installed, and it did not lock up, for every AVP I installed,
once
removed, it worked like a charm.

It sure sounds like it's got a conflict with something.

Lock Up= Freezes, can't control alt or esc, or anything, must cut off at
CPU.

When does it freeze? Right after "Starting windows," or after the splash
screen, or... ?

- Bill

Yes thru the add/remove , then went to search and removed anything that was
there. NO firewall, I can't get an AVP without locking up, not adding a
firewall.
"KB" wrote in message
...
Hi, Sue. Which firewall are you using? Did you remove the AVs programs
through add/remove programs? I've, in the past run AVG with ZoneAlarm and
those proggies fought each other to the bitter end. I'm now running Avast
along with ZoneAlarm (both free) in perfect harmony.

If you'd like to give Avast a whirl, it can be found he

http://avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

Good luck and let us know how things turn out, ok?

KB
"Sue" wrote in message
...
I am in desperate help to find a AV program that will not lock up my
computer, which I use rarely (hubby will use at times, I have a new XP)

I know it is old, and only have programs installed that are essential.
Like
systray, lol.
Norton's, Trend, etc, will not work due to the requirements, as most new
anti viral programs wont.

Over the years I have not added any additional programs than what it came
with, so I can only surmise with the newer AVP, the windowsME has not
been
able to keep up with the changing technology?

I disabled a ton of useless stuff in startup, 5 yrs ago that came with
the
computer preinstalled, at the guidance of the windowsME tech support
installer...

I have 127.0 MB Ram which is what it came with, as you all know, most of
the
AVP requires that or more.

I have tried most every AVP I could find, yet it still locks.

Done the safe mode scan disk, etc. empty the common files, i.e. temp,
history, etc. nothing helps .

Before I take the CPU to CompUSA to reformat, is there anything else we
can
do from here to make this work?

I do not have any virus's, adware, etc. on the computer.

I have been coming to the tech boards for years to know how to check for
the
above etc. This has been an ongoing problem,. since the computer grew
older.
5 years old.
RAM - 127.0
GB - used 4.44
free 34.7

As a test I uninstalled whatever AVP (been trying quite a few here
lately),
that was installed, and it did not lock up, for every AVP I installed,
once
removed, it worked like a charm.

Lock Up= Freezes, can't control alt or esc, or anything, must cut off at
CPU.
(even bought another mouse just in case, wasn't the problem)
No conflicts showing in Device Manager.

I keep the computer updated with whatever patches, or installations they
still have for WinMe.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Sue, you should be just fine with 128M RAM. Is the system fully patched via
windows updates?

With your AVs, did you use email scanning features? These features are more
for show than substance and should be turned off. Email scanners will
generally cause problems in winME

Good luck, Sue. Hope things work out.
"Sue" wrote in message
news
freezes either when we cut it on, or during usage.
firewall?? I laugh, due to the fact that even when I installed that, it
happened.

What if I bought more RAM?

If there is a conflict, damn if I can find it.
I will try the suggestions and see what works. Thanks.
I have no firewall.
"William J. Leary Jr." wrote in message
...
"Sue" wrote in message
...
I am in desperate help to find a AV program that will not lock up my
computer, which I use rarely (hubby will use at times, I have a new XP)
((..omitted..))
I have been coming to the tech boards for years to know how to check
for
the
above etc. This has been an ongoing problem,. since the computer grew
older.
5 years old.
RAM - 127.0
GB - used 4.44
free 34.7

I had Windows ME running with Nortons AV (only, no other Nortons
utilities/features) on a 400MHz AMD with 128M of RAM and a 5G hard drive
up
to a couple of months ago. The system isn't running now only because my
son
(who had it has his apartment) now has access to his girlfriends
computer
(much newer).

As a test I uninstalled whatever AVP (been trying quite a few here
lately),
that was installed, and it did not lock up, for every AVP I installed,
once
removed, it worked like a charm.

It sure sounds like it's got a conflict with something.

Lock Up= Freezes, can't control alt or esc, or anything, must cut off
at
CPU.

When does it freeze? Right after "Starting windows," or after the
splash
screen, or... ?

- Bill

Sue, you should be just fine with 128M RAM. Is the system fully patched via
windows updates?

With your AVs, did you use email scanning features? These features are more
for show than substance and should be turned off. Email scanners will
generally cause problems in winME. They reeked havoc on my system.

I'd give avast a try if I were you. You'll need to register and renew after
one year. It's a nice AV and is superior to AVG in terms of protection.
Opt to not install the email scanner by selecting the custom installation
(bottom of three choices) and unchecking the email scanner.

Good luck, Sue.
"Sue" wrote in message
...
Yes thru the add/remove , then went to search and removed anything that
was
there. NO firewall, I can't get an AVP without locking up, not adding a
firewall.
"KB" wrote in message
...
Hi, Sue. Which firewall are you using? Did you remove the AVs programs
through add/remove programs? I've, in the past run AVG with ZoneAlarm
and
those proggies fought each other to the bitter end. I'm now running
Avast
along with ZoneAlarm (both free) in perfect harmony.

If you'd like to give Avast a whirl, it can be found he

http://avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

Good luck and let us know how things turn out, ok?

KB
"Sue" wrote in message
...
I am in desperate help to find a AV program that will not lock up my
computer, which I use rarely (hubby will use at times, I have a new XP)

I know it is old, and only have programs installed that are essential.
Like
systray, lol.
Norton's, Trend, etc, will not work due to the requirements, as most
new
anti viral programs wont.

Over the years I have not added any additional programs than what it
came
with, so I can only surmise with the newer AVP, the windowsME has not
been
able to keep up with the changing technology?

I disabled a ton of useless stuff in startup, 5 yrs ago that came with
the
computer preinstalled, at the guidance of the windowsME tech support
installer...

I have 127.0 MB Ram which is what it came with, as you all know, most
of
the
AVP requires that or more.

I have tried most every AVP I could find, yet it still locks.

Done the safe mode scan disk, etc. empty the common files, i.e. temp,
history, etc. nothing helps .

Before I take the CPU to CompUSA to reformat, is there anything else we
can
do from here to make this work?

I do not have any virus's, adware, etc. on the computer.

I have been coming to the tech boards for years to know how to check
for
the
above etc. This has been an ongoing problem,. since the computer grew
older.
5 years old.
RAM - 127.0
GB - used 4.44
free 34.7

As a test I uninstalled whatever AVP (been trying quite a few here
lately),
that was installed, and it did not lock up, for every AVP I installed,
once
removed, it worked like a charm.

Lock Up= Freezes, can't control alt or esc, or anything, must cut off
at
CPU.
(even bought another mouse just in case, wasn't the problem)
No conflicts showing in Device Manager.

I keep the computer updated with whatever patches, or installations
they
still have for WinMe.

Any ideas?

Thanks

"KB" wrote in message
...
Sue, you should be just fine with 128M RAM. Is the system fully patched
via
windows updates?

With your AVs, did you use email scanning features? These features are
more
for show than substance and should be turned off.

Mine catches six or seven message a week. But, you may be right, especially
for a resource limited system. With very few execptions, all the items my
AV mail scanner catches are attachments, which I wouldn't have opened
anyway, or HTML, which I've got disabled. I had this feature turned off on
my son's system (400MHz, 128MB) because it did indeed bog it down. In fact,
sometimes it looked like the system as frozen solid. We discovered it
wasn't actually frozen when it "hung up" once and we were too busy with
something else to get to it and reboot it. It came back on it's own
something like a half hour later.

Email scanners will
generally cause problems in winME

I've had problems with NAV during startup (it seems to LOVE to find
conflicts), but not with mail scanning features. This is likely a
sitiatuion where YMMV.

Good luck, Sue. Hope things work out.

But for all of what I've said here, I'd also suggest (as you did) Avast for
this system.

-------------------
"Sue"
freezes either when we cut it on, or during usage.

Odd one. Usually it's one or the other.

What if I bought more RAM?

Wouldn't hurt, but it's probably not necessary.

- Bill

Norton is a virus LOL. Thanks for the feedback.

KB
"William J. Leary Jr." wrote in message
...
"KB" wrote in message
...
Sue, you should be just fine with 128M RAM. Is the system fully patched
via
windows updates?

With your AVs, did you use email scanning features? These features are
more
for show than substance and should be turned off.

Mine catches six or seven message a week. But, you may be right,
especially
for a resource limited system. With very few execptions, all the items my
AV mail scanner catches are attachments, which I wouldn't have opened
anyway, or HTML, which I've got disabled. I had this feature turned off
on
my son's system (400MHz, 128MB) because it did indeed bog it down. In
fact,
sometimes it looked like the system as frozen solid. We discovered it
wasn't actually frozen when it "hung up" once and we were too busy with
something else to get to it and reboot it. It came back on it's own
something like a half hour later.

Email scanners will
generally cause problems in winME

I've had problems with NAV during startup (it seems to LOVE to find
conflicts), but not with mail scanning features. This is likely a
sitiatuion where YMMV.

Good luck, Sue. Hope things work out.

But for all of what I've said here, I'd also suggest (as you did) Avast
for
this system.

-------------------
"Sue"
freezes either when we cut it on, or during usage.

Odd one. Usually it's one or the other.

What if I bought more RAM?

Wouldn't hurt, but it's probably not necessary.

- Bill