Sharing internet connection??

Aol says that i can use xbox live on win 200 and win xp, their are security
issues with ME, they said upgrade to xp and they will help me set it up they
just dont support win me. As for having ics, there are three ways to connect,
1- direct from modem (aol doesnt support)
2- Router (again still have win me so no-no)
3- Through pc whilst powered up. (aol support but not with me)
How bloody stupid is that...

"Noel Paton" wrote:

I say again - XP will NOT fix your problem with ICS over AOL
(I'm not even convinced that you need ICS, unless you plan on having both
the XBox and the PC online at the same time - but as I've never seen an Xbox
yet, I'm shooting from the hip here!)


"Noel Paton" wrote:

I say again - XP will NOT fix your problem with ICS over AOL
(I'm not even convinced that you need ICS, unless you plan on having both
the XBox and the PC online at the same time - but as I've never seen an Xbox
yet, I'm shooting from the hip here!)

--
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"spongey" wrote in message
news
i would switch but ive only just signed up so have a 12mth contract, Is
there
any way to bypass this? Or do i need to buy a new computer? I did the
download check on microsoft to see if my comp can take xp but said i cant
so
what should i do??

As for the rude response i said from the start i am unsure what to ask or do
as being about as good with pc`s as i am with woman (seriously, you can ask
her)
AOL said to go into settings then local area networking, i dont have this,
it said try in dial up networking and look for internet 2, again i dont have
this, when i asked why they asked me what win i was on, told them win ME,
they said that i am unable to use networking with AOL only because im on ME.
If i had xp i could use it or win 200 which they also support, m not sure but
i guess that it disables the local area option because its not on my computer
anywhere. If you think you have a way please let me know and i will try it.
On my xbox when i have everything connected and try to connect it says it
cant find a dns server. not sure if that helps.


"Mike M" wrote:

spongey wrote:

i would switch but ive only just signed up so have a 12mth contract,
Is there any way to bypass this? Or do i need to buy a new computer?
I did the download check on microsoft to see if my comp can take xp
but said i cant so what should i do??

So why did you say "due to not being able to use dial up networking to
share the connection"? Internet Connection Sharing has been a feature of
Microsoft operating systems since Win 98SE and if an xbox works with XP's
ICS it should also work with that in Win Me as it also should with that
provided by Win 98SE.

As for "what should I do?" a good place to start could be to ask the
correct question in the correct place. Win Me supports internet
connection sharing. AOL, I understand supports internet connection
sharing provided the user is on broadband - which you are. So other than
a connection to the internet what are the requirements of your xbox? I
suspect none so I can't see why you cannot use Win Me's ICS as the
connection since as far as the xbox is concerned the connection will
appear identical to that provided by either XP or a direct connection to a
router. What you may have to do though is configure port forwarding
through the host to the xbox regardless of the host be it Win Me, XP or a
router.

Regards,
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP

Rude response? If that's your response when I'm trying to help you then
heaven help anyone who is trying to be rude.

Clearly AOL have a lot to learn and appear unwilling to do so. AOL 9 has
many issues when installed on Win Me and these are down to the sheer
incompetence of their programmers. It would appear that you are a victim
of a similar incompetence by their first line tech support. I wish you
luck in getting your xbox working but since none of the issues you are
having have anything to do with the operating system you are using but
rather with your ISP I will leave it for others to try and help as I do
not and never will use AOL.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



spongey wrote:

As for the rude response i said from the start i am unsure what to
ask or do as being about as good with pc`s as i am with woman
(seriously, you can ask her)
AOL said to go into settings then local area networking, i dont have
this, it said try in dial up networking and look for internet 2,
again i dont have this, when i asked why they asked me what win i
was on, told them win ME, they said that i am unable to use
networking with AOL only because im on ME. If i had xp i could use it
or win 200 which they also support, m not sure but i guess that it
disables the local area option because its not on my computer
anywhere. If you think you have a way please let me know and i will
try it. On my xbox when i have everything connected and try to
connect it says it cant find a dns server. not sure if that helps.

AOL will tell you whatever they like - the FACT is that they do NOT support
ICS over dialup.

If you wish to (and are able to - I'm not) upgrade to broadband, then you
will find that ME works as well as XP for ICS over AOL

Win ME will support routers - but AOL won't - and dialup can't

Your problem is with AOL and your connection - nothing you have said yet
leads me to think that the problem lies with ME.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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"spongey" wrote in message
...
Aol says that i can use xbox live on win 200 and win xp, their are
security
issues with ME, they said upgrade to xp and they will help me set it up
they
just dont support win me. As for having ics, there are three ways to
connect,
1- direct from modem (aol doesnt support)
2- Router (again still have win me so no-no)
3- Through pc whilst powered up. (aol support but not with me)
How bloody stupid is that...

"Noel Paton" wrote:

I say again - XP will NOT fix your problem with ICS over AOL
(I'm not even convinced that you need ICS, unless you plan on having both
the XBox and the PC online at the same time - but as I've never seen an
Xbox
yet, I'm shooting from the hip here!)


"Noel Paton" wrote:

I say again - XP will NOT fix your problem with ICS over AOL
(I'm not even convinced that you need ICS, unless you plan on having both
the XBox and the PC online at the same time - but as I've never seen an
Xbox
yet, I'm shooting from the hip here!)

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"spongey" wrote in message
news
i would switch but ive only just signed up so have a 12mth contract, Is
there
any way to bypass this? Or do i need to buy a new computer? I did the
download check on microsoft to see if my comp can take xp but said i
cant
so
what should i do??

In article , =?Utf-8?B?
c3BvbmdleQ==?= says...

I have windows me, and have just bought a xbox live kit, Ive been told that
it only works on win 2000 and win xp...

Wrong. If the Xbox kit is like the Sony Playstation 2, the OS on the
computer is irrelevant.

This is due to not being able to use dial up networking to share the
connection to the xbox...

The only issue, when running a game console through an ICS connection is the
effect of NAT on the game ports. This is a factor of NAT, not of the OS.

...the only way ive been told is to update to win xp?

They are blowing you off.

If you can help please explain as though talking to a five yr old,
as i need steps to do something or the rattle gets thrown
from the pram, thanks in advance...

Yes; I see what you mean about throwing the rattle from the pram. Calling
somebody rude, and all; still...

Your Xbox is going to need an IP address. It can get one several ways. A
direct connection to the Internet, as a computer, will let it pull a public
IP address from your provider. However, this works best with a provider
which doesn't proxy your connection. I don't know how that will work with
AOL. Or, you connect to an ICS computer. Your Xbox will get an IP address
from the ICS NAT. It matters not if you are using Windows Me's built-in NAT,
Windows 98 (not SE) with something like Wingate, any flavor of Linus with
the included software router (like ICS); or even a hardware router. I use
the latter.

I have a Sony Playstation 2 with the Ethernet adapter. I run a CAT5 patch
cable from the RJ45 connector on the back of the console to one of the four
LAN ports on my Netgear FR114P. I have the Netgear set up to assign an IP
address to each connected device by its MAC address. That is all there is to
it.

Any difficulty that you may encounter will be of two natures:

A. Local. Your network configuration is wrong.

B. Remote. Your provider is playing funny games with the connection.

You can fix the former by figuring out what the configuration needs to be. I
can't see that the Xbox is different from my PS2. I tell the PS2 not to log
in to the ISP; that is handled by the Netgear. I tell the PS2 to
automatically obtain an IP address from the router. The PS2 sends a DHCP
request to the router, and it gets an IP address from the router. NAT
software, such as ICS, even Windows Me ICS, will respond to the request with
a local IP address for the console.

The rest is how you need to move packets from an Internet game server to the
console, and back.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

In article , =?Utf-8?B?
c3BvbmdleQ==?= says...

I have windows me, and have just bought a xbox live kit, Ive been told that
it only works on win 2000 and win xp...

Wrong. If the Xbox kit is like the Sony Playstation 2, the OS on the
computer is irrelevant.

This is due to not being able to use dial up networking to share the
connection to the xbox...

The only issue, when running a game console through an ICS connection is the
effect of NAT on the game ports. This is a factor of NAT, not of the OS.

...the only way ive been told is to update to win xp?

They are blowing you off.

If you can help please explain as though talking to a five yr old,
as i need steps to do something or the rattle gets thrown
from the pram, thanks in advance...

Yes; I see what you mean about throwing the rattle from the pram. Calling
somebody rude, and all; still...

Your Xbox is going to need an IP address. It can get one several ways. A
direct connection to the Internet, as a computer, will let it pull a public
IP address from your provider. However, this works best with a provider
which doesn't proxy your connection. I don't know how that will work with
AOL. Or, you connect to an ICS computer. Your Xbox will get an IP address
from the ICS NAT. It matters not if you are using Windows Me's built-in NAT,
Windows 98 (not SE) with something like Wingate, any flavor of Linus with
the included software router (like ICS); or even a hardware router. I use
the latter.

I have a Sony Playstation 2 with the Ethernet adapter. I run a CAT5 patch
cable from the RJ45 connector on the back of the console to one of the four
LAN ports on my Netgear FR114P. I have the Netgear set up to assign an IP
address to each connected device by its MAC address. That is all there is to
it.

Any difficulty that you may encounter will be of two natures:

A. Local. Your network configuration is wrong.

B. Remote. Your provider is playing funny games with the connection.

You can fix the former by figuring out what the configuration needs to be. I
can't see that the Xbox is different from my PS2. I tell the PS2 not to log
in to the ISP; that is handled by the Netgear. I tell the PS2 to
automatically obtain an IP address from the router. The PS2 sends a DHCP
request to the router, and it gets an IP address from the router. NAT
software, such as ICS, even Windows Me ICS, will respond to the request with
a local IP address for the console.

The rest is how you need to move packets from an Internet game server to the
console, and back.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint