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Old December 6th 07, 12:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Tiffany S.
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I just signed up for dsl through AT&T. The rep insisted that it worked
with win98se. However, when I tried to load the setup cd, the first
popup acknowledged that I had win98se, but that I needed xp or vista.

The label on the cd said that it was good for Windows, but it did not
indicate the version.

Have we finally gotten to the point that we Windows 98 holdouts are
defeated? That the general phrase "works with the windows operating
sysyem" no longer includes 98se?

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Old December 6th 07, 02:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Don Phillipson
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"Tiffany S." wrote in message
...

I just signed up for dsl through AT&T. The rep insisted that it worked
with win98se. However, when I tried to load the setup cd, the first
popup acknowledged that I had win98se, but that I needed xp or vista.


It is now normal that
1. Win98 is not supported by MS or anyone else e.g. AT&T
2. Typical IT salesmen are medium ignorant about software
and operating systems, and tempted to say what will encourage
you to buy rather than what they know to be true (seldom much.)
But
3. Most ISPs make their connection routines as simple and
as fully automatic as possible -- so there is a reasonable chance
connection routines programmed for XP or Vista will also
succeed with Win98 PCs. Mine did (Rogers Wireless: I just
plugged their wireless modem into my router, set to its defaults,
input the access password given orally by Rogers -- and voila!)

A point worth mentioning is that Rogers has excellent tech
advice staff. E.g. when I asked advice whether a dial-up
(phone line) PC could be configured to use the Rogers
broadband mailer they answered "Perhaps but . . . :" only
on non-default ports, and provided two alternative port
numbers, one of which did the trick. In other words
the tech help staff were able to understand my question
without delay and knew the answer. I do not know whether
AT&T tech help staff are of equal quality.

--
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(Ottawa, Canada)


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Old December 6th 07, 08:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
dadiOH
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Tiffany S. wrote:
I just signed up for dsl through AT&T. The rep insisted that it
worked with win98se. However, when I tried to load the setup cd,
the first popup acknowledged that I had win98se, but that I needed
xp or vista.

The label on the cd said that it was good for Windows, but it did
not indicate the version.

Have we finally gotten to the point that we Windows 98 holdouts are
defeated? That the general phrase "works with the windows operating
sysyem" no longer includes 98se?


Look on the CD with Explorer...is there a folder for Win98?

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Old December 6th 07, 08:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Did you connect the DSL modem first? All the recent ATT DSL modems I've run
into are automated and you don't need to run their setup CD. As far as I
know, the only things you get from the CD aren't things you want to run
under Win98, anyway.

So, did you try just connecting the thing and seeing if it works?

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"Tiffany S." wrote in message
...
I just signed up for dsl through AT&T. The rep insisted that it worked
with win98se. However, when I tried to load the setup cd, the first
popup acknowledged that I had win98se, but that I needed xp or vista.

The label on the cd said that it was good for Windows, but it did not
indicate the version.

Have we finally gotten to the point that we Windows 98 holdouts are
defeated? That the general phrase "works with the windows operating
sysyem" no longer includes 98se?



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Old December 6th 07, 11:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
philo
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"Tiffany S." wrote in message
...
I just signed up for dsl through AT&T. The rep insisted that it worked
with win98se. However, when I tried to load the setup cd, the first
popup acknowledged that I had win98se, but that I needed xp or vista.

The label on the cd said that it was good for Windows, but it did not
indicate the version.

Have we finally gotten to the point that we Windows 98 holdouts are
defeated? That the general phrase "works with the windows operating
sysyem" no longer includes 98se?



Here is the catch.

Win98/se will work just fine with a DSL connection...
however the software you need to use to initially activate your accound will
not work on a win98 machine.

It will work with XP or Vista ...or possibly even Win2k.

But unless you can hook-up another machine...at least temporarily...there is
no way for you to activate your account
unless that can possibly do so for you over the phone...but my guess is they
will say "NO"


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Old December 7th 07, 09:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Tiffany S.
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There is another fly in the ointment. My pc does not have a network
card. The sales rep had told me that I could hook the modem up to my
USB port. When the modem arrived (it is a tiny piece of crap Motorola),
I noticed that it does not have a USB port ... just an ethernet port.

I called AT&T about it, so they sent me a wireless modem/router (the
brand is 2-Wire). But that does not have a USB port, either, and my pc
has neither an ethernet card nor a wi-fi card.

AT&T is sending me a THIRD modem, but I suspect that it will not have a
USB port, either.

If I buy an ethernet network card -- which I do not want to do unless I
am assured it will work -- will its software be able to activate my
account? Will it be able to configure either the 2-Wire modem/router or
the Motorola router? Is ethernet card software similar to a DUN wizard
in that it sends out username, password, and protocol info?

AT&T refuses to (or is too stupid to) tell me because they are adamant
that they no longer support win98se.

I like 98se. I never upgraded to xp because of its bloat, which I
understand is nothing compared to Vista bloat.

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Old December 7th 07, 09:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Tiffany S.
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Default DSL support

I looked on AT&T setup CD with explorer. There is a folder for Win98ME,
but not one for Win98se.

(I had always thought that "Win98ME" was an incorrect term, that it was
either Win98 or WinME. Therefore, maybe 98ME applies to either 98se
*or* ME.

On the other hand, because ME uses the same kernel as 98, maybe 98ME
specifically does mean ME only.)

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Old December 7th 07, 10:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
philo
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"Tiffany S." wrote in message
...
There is another fly in the ointment. My pc does not have a network
card. The sales rep had told me that I could hook the modem up to my
USB port. When the modem arrived (it is a tiny piece of crap Motorola),
I noticed that it does not have a USB port ... just an ethernet port.

I called AT&T about it, so they sent me a wireless modem/router (the
brand is 2-Wire). But that does not have a USB port, either, and my pc
has neither an ethernet card nor a wi-fi card.

AT&T is sending me a THIRD modem, but I suspect that it will not have a
USB port, either.

If I buy an ethernet network card -- which I do not want to do unless I
am assured it will work -- will its software be able to activate my
account? Will it be able to configure either the 2-Wire modem/router or
the Motorola router? Is ethernet card software similar to a DUN wizard
in that it sends out username, password, and protocol info?

AT&T refuses to (or is too stupid to) tell me because they are adamant
that they no longer support win98se.

I like 98se. I never upgraded to xp because of its bloat, which I
understand is nothing compared to Vista bloat.



Since they do not support win98 with their software...
even if you get a net card you will probably not be able to activate your
account.



 




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