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Old May 19th 06, 06:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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I've recently done a clean reinstall of Windows ME on a Dell Dimension 4100
using a Dell reinstallation CD (PC and CD are six years old). I'm looking
for the least error-prone way of reinstalling the critical Windows updates.
I would prefer a procedure that can be used after Microsoft drops support
for Windows ME (this summer).

I have the Windows Update installation history for this PC. I also have a
recent Belarc listing of updates just prior to the clean reinstall. My
internet connection is dial-up (no broadband).

Reinstalling the updates would be easier if I had the Windows Security
Update CD. According to the Microsoft Order Desk, this CD is no longer
available.

There are two options I'm considering.

Option 1: On another PC, download the critical updates from the Windows
Update Catalog. Burn the updates to CD.

Option 2: Visit Windows Update and let it select the critical updates. After
updates are installed, take a disk image and burn to CD.

One question is common to both approaches. Should I first install WMP9 and
IE6 (or is IE6 itself an update?).

I started by trying to use Option 1 (Windows Update Catalog). The list of
critical updates from Windows Update Catalog is much shorter than my
installation history list. Many updates on my installation history are for
earlier versions of IE and WMP. However, I'm concerned that the list from
Windows Update Catalog may omit some needed updates. Also, there are a few
updates listed from Windows Update Catalog that are not on my installation
history.

IE6 does not appear on the list from Windows Update Catalog.

Has anyone yet posted the list and order of critical updates for a Windows
ME clean reinstall?

How shoud I proceed?

PS: Prior to posting this, I searched the web for recommendations. This
search included checking websites aumha.org, windowsreinstall.com, and
crashfixpc.com. From the archives of the newsgroup
microsoft.public.windowsme.general I viewed the thread "Windows ME Update
Order" posted in November 2005.


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Old May 19th 06, 06:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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Default Windows Updates after a clean reinstall

You should combine your two options. Visit the Windows Update site to
determine which patches are required and then download them from the
Window Update Catalogue. Note that some patches will only be offered once
various components have been installed such as patches for IE6 so you will
need to cycle through the WU site and then the Catalogue a number of times
until you have got all the patches you need.

One question is common to both approaches. Should I first install
WMP9 and IE6 (or is IE6 itself an update?).



IE6 SP1 is essential. WMP9 very much optional.

IE6 does not appear on the list from Windows Update Catalog.


Check again or get it from the WU site but note that this will only be a
stub installer. See http://www.broomeman.com/support/wsiedown.html for
details of how to download the entire package for later use.

Has anyone yet posted the list and order of critical updates for a
Windows ME clean reinstall?


The very first update that should be installed is 290700 as without this
update you will be unable to use System Restore to back out from any
problems.

Don't try and install too many patches at a time. Install WMP updates
individually in the order in which they were released.
--
Mike Maltby



Allen Weiner wrote:

I've recently done a clean reinstall of Windows ME on a Dell
Dimension 4100 using a Dell reinstallation CD (PC and CD are six
years old). I'm looking for the least error-prone way of reinstalling
the critical Windows updates. I would prefer a procedure that can be
used after Microsoft drops support for Windows ME (this summer).

I have the Windows Update installation history for this PC. I also
have a recent Belarc listing of updates just prior to the clean
reinstall. My internet connection is dial-up (no broadband).

Reinstalling the updates would be easier if I had the Windows Security
Update CD. According to the Microsoft Order Desk, this CD is no longer
available.

There are two options I'm considering.

Option 1: On another PC, download the critical updates from the
Windows Update Catalog. Burn the updates to CD.

Option 2: Visit Windows Update and let it select the critical
updates. After updates are installed, take a disk image and burn to
CD.

One question is common to both approaches. Should I first install
WMP9 and IE6 (or is IE6 itself an update?).

I started by trying to use Option 1 (Windows Update Catalog). The
list of critical updates from Windows Update Catalog is much shorter
than my installation history list. Many updates on my installation
history are for earlier versions of IE and WMP. However, I'm
concerned that the list from Windows Update Catalog may omit some
needed updates. Also, there are a few updates listed from Windows
Update Catalog that are not on my installation history.

IE6 does not appear on the list from Windows Update Catalog.

Has anyone yet posted the list and order of critical updates for a
Windows ME clean reinstall?

How shoud I proceed?

PS: Prior to posting this, I searched the web for recommendations.
This search included checking websites aumha.org,
windowsreinstall.com, and crashfixpc.com. From the archives of the
newsgroup microsoft.public.windowsme.general I viewed the thread
"Windows ME Update Order" posted in November 2005.


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Old May 21st 06, 06:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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"Mike M" wrote in message
...
You should combine your two options. Visit the Windows Update site to
determine which patches are required and then download them from the
Window Update Catalogue. Note that some patches will only be offered once
various components have been installed such as patches for IE6 so you will
need to cycle through the WU site and then the Catalogue a number of times
until you have got all the patches you need.

One question is common to both approaches. Should I first install
WMP9 and IE6 (or is IE6 itself an update?).



IE6 SP1 is essential. WMP9 very much optional.

IE6 does not appear on the list from Windows Update Catalog.


Check again or get it from the WU site but note that this will only be a
stub installer. See http://www.broomeman.com/support/wsiedown.html for
details of how to download the entire package for later use.

Has anyone yet posted the list and order of critical updates for a
Windows ME clean reinstall?


The very first update that should be installed is 290700 as without this
update you will be unable to use System Restore to back out from any
problems.

Don't try and install too many patches at a time. Install WMP updates
individually in the order in which they were released.
--
Mike Maltby




Mike:

Thanks very much for your very detailed reply. It is *extremely*
helpful!


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Old May 21st 06, 07:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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Allen,

Glad to have been able to help.

I feel that it is so unfortunate that Microsoft chose to withdraw the
Security Update CD when XP SP2 was released as this CD was so useful for
those running Win 98/98SE and Win Me, all the more so since there have
been relatively few updates for Win 9x systems since the CD as released.
--
Mike Maltby



Allen Weiner wrote:

Thanks very much for your very detailed reply. It is
*extremely* helpful!


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Old May 21st 06, 07:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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Mike
Apparently the Update CD is still available in the US at least - but you
have to phone PSS for it. I don't know whether it's available elsewhere.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

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http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Allen,

Glad to have been able to help.

I feel that it is so unfortunate that Microsoft chose to withdraw the
Security Update CD when XP SP2 was released as this CD was so useful for
those running Win 98/98SE and Win Me, all the more so since there have
been relatively few updates for Win 9x systems since the CD as released.
--
Mike Maltby



Allen Weiner wrote:

Thanks very much for your very detailed reply. It is
*extremely* helpful!



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Old May 21st 06, 07:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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Noel,

In which case Allen should perhaps phone for a copy since he appears to be
somewhere on the east coast.
--
Mike


Noel Paton wrote:

Apparently the Update CD is still available in the US at least - but
you have to phone PSS for it. I don't know whether it's available
elsewhere.


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Old May 21st 06, 08:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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to quote PA Bear
quote
The Windows Security Update CD (Feb-04) /may/ still be available via MS
Order Desk:

In the United States, contact the Microsoft Order Desk at the following
phone number:

(800) 360-7561, Monday through Friday, 5:00 A.M. to 7:00 P.M., Pacific
Time

In Canada, contact the Canadian Microsoft Order Desk at the following phone
number:

(800) 933-4750, Monday through Friday, 5:00 A.M. to 7:00 P.M., Pacific
Time
/quote

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Noel,

In which case Allen should perhaps phone for a copy since he appears to be
somewhere on the east coast.
--
Mike


Noel Paton wrote:

Apparently the Update CD is still available in the US at least - but
you have to phone PSS for it. I don't know whether it's available
elsewhere.



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Old May 21st 06, 08:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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The operative word there being /may/. I wonder whether if in fact it is
still available and also for how much longer?
--
Mike M


Noel Paton wrote:

to quote PA Bear
quote
The Windows Security Update CD (Feb-04) /may/ still be available via
MS Order Desk:

In the United States, contact the Microsoft Order Desk at the
following phone number:

(800) 360-7561, Monday through Friday, 5:00 A.M. to 7:00 P.M.,
Pacific Time

In Canada, contact the Canadian Microsoft Order Desk at the following
phone number:

(800) 933-4750, Monday through Friday, 5:00 A.M. to 7:00 P.M.,
Pacific Time
/quote


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Old May 21st 06, 09:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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Apparently at least one poster successfully requested a copy last week...

quote

just an update for those who are interested ...the Security update CD is
still available at no charge by contacting the numbers above.

it is not available online or as a download from MS.

thanks all for your help : (one is on the way)

/quote

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Mike M" wrote in message
...
The operative word there being /may/. I wonder whether if in fact it is
still available and also for how much longer?
--
Mike M


Noel Paton wrote:

to quote PA Bear
quote
The Windows Security Update CD (Feb-04) /may/ still be available via
MS Order Desk:

In the United States, contact the Microsoft Order Desk at the
following phone number:

(800) 360-7561, Monday through Friday, 5:00 A.M. to 7:00 P.M.,
Pacific Time

In Canada, contact the Canadian Microsoft Order Desk at the following
phone number:

(800) 933-4750, Monday through Friday, 5:00 A.M. to 7:00 P.M.,
Pacific Time
/quote



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Old May 21st 06, 09:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
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Thanks - let's hope Allen is still reading the thread.
--
Mike Maltby



Noel Paton wrote:

Apparently at least one poster successfully requested a copy last
week...

quote

just an update for those who are interested ...the Security update CD
is still available at no charge by contacting the numbers above.

it is not available online or as a download from MS.

thanks all for your help : (one is on the way)

/quote


 




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