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#31
July 1st 09, 05:58 AM
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On 06/30/2009 01:23 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: Repost [1]... Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially when you haven't told all of the story in this thread? Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f =============== [1] Originally posted via Google Groups earlier today but post didn't show up on my end: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...183e098a51f85b Wow, didn't realize this has been going on since the 19th on OE General... Might want to explain in OE General what "use secure authentication" means verses SSL/TLS connections [I didn't read the whole discussion so maybe you already did]; and remind him that if an individual site OFFERS/requires a security certificate it can be installed *upon access* [e.g., for GoDaddy, Live, etc.]... and as noted over there, disabling the anti-v message check does not mean its not running [such as AVAST'S proxy runs regardless - can be tested by running filemon] so the .ini [mentioned] check should be added to the firewall, router, and other checks [ports/etc. which you probably already did..]. Sorry to butt-in here.... just brain activity leaking out... And just to pitch a biach,,, wonder why Microsoft/Live just didn't use IMAP... pop is so clunky... -- ~ -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government _______ 
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#32
July 1st 09, 06:56 AM
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[Review the original thread and Jim's references to ESC, primarily in latter
replies. It seems that we'd learn more about the real story every time he posted.] MEB wrote: On 06/30/2009 01:23 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: Repost [1]... Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially when you haven't told all of the story in this thread? Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f =============== [1] Originally posted via Google Groups earlier today but post didn't show up on my end: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...183e098a51f85b Wow, didn't realize this has been going on since the 19th on OE General... Might want to explain in OE General what "use secure authentication" means verses SSL/TLS connections [I didn't read the whole discussion so maybe you already did]; and remind him that if an individual site OFFERS/requires a security certificate it can be installed *upon access* [e.g., for GoDaddy, Live, etc.]... and as noted over there, disabling the anti-v message check does not mean its not running [such as AVAST'S proxy runs regardless - can be tested by running filemon] so the .ini [mentioned] check should be added to the firewall, router, and other checks [ports/etc. which you probably already did..]. Sorry to butt-in here.... just brain activity leaking out... And just to pitch a biach,,, wonder why Microsoft/Live just didn't use IMAP... pop is so clunky... -- ~
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#33
July 1st 09, 06:56 AM
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[Review the original thread and Jim's references to ESC, primarily in latter replies. It seems that we'd learn more about the real story every time he posted.] MEB wrote: On 06/30/2009 01:23 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: Repost [1]... Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially when you haven't told all of the story in this thread? Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f =============== [1] Originally posted via Google Groups earlier today but post didn't show up on my end: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...183e098a51f85b Wow, didn't realize this has been going on since the 19th on OE General... Might want to explain in OE General what "use secure authentication" means verses SSL/TLS connections [I didn't read the whole discussion so maybe you already did]; and remind him that if an individual site OFFERS/requires a security certificate it can be installed *upon access* [e.g., for GoDaddy, Live, etc.]... and as noted over there, disabling the anti-v message check does not mean its not running [such as AVAST'S proxy runs regardless - can be tested by running filemon] so the .ini [mentioned] check should be added to the firewall, router, and other checks [ports/etc. which you probably already did..]. Sorry to butt-in here.... just brain activity leaking out... And just to pitch a biach,,, wonder why Microsoft/Live just didn't use IMAP... pop is so clunky... -- ~
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#34
July 1st 09, 04:42 PM
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On 07/01/2009 01:56 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
[Review the original thread and Jim's references to ESC, primarily in latter replies. It seems that we'd learn more about the real story every time he posted.] How typical,,, asking for help,, avoiding posting all information and complaining when things don't work... Things noted beyond the ESC [enhanced security control] issue: Jim's message 14 ran a TEST message - blocked as a SPAM/hack, DUUUHHHH Jim's message 15 verifies it ended in trash/spam - obviously the IP and/or sender was added to SPAM blocking activity; message should have been moved to INBOX to remove the SPAM/Junk block.. Jim's message 31 - grandfathered account deleted/removed, new account created - gees, so was the old grandfathered account gone - eheheheh That thread needs a summary with a verification of whether the original account was recovered or otherwise,, and whether or rather what caused the account [which ever one now works] to function... Doubtful whether Jim will be answering anymore questions or supplying any answers though... That discussion will *really* screw-up someone searching for the terms associated with the original errors and issues on the search engines... no finite answer and a lot of variables unaddressed.. MEB wrote: On 06/30/2009 01:23 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: Repost [1]... Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially when you haven't told all of the story in this thread? Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f =============== [1] Originally posted via Google Groups earlier today but post didn't show up on my end: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...183e098a51f85b Wow, didn't realize this has been going on since the 19th on OE General... Might want to explain in OE General what "use secure authentication" means verses SSL/TLS connections [I didn't read the whole discussion so maybe you already did]; and remind him that if an individual site OFFERS/requires a security certificate it can be installed *upon access* [e.g., for GoDaddy, Live, etc.]... and as noted over there, disabling the anti-v message check does not mean its not running [such as AVAST'S proxy runs regardless - can be tested by running filemon] so the .ini [mentioned] check should be added to the firewall, router, and other checks [ports/etc. which you probably already did..]. Sorry to butt-in here.... just brain activity leaking out... And just to pitch a biach,,, wonder why Microsoft/Live just didn't use IMAP... pop is so clunky... -- ~ -- ~ -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government _______
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#35
July 1st 09, 04:42 PM
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On 07/01/2009 01:56 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: [Review the original thread and Jim's references to ESC, primarily in latter replies. It seems that we'd learn more about the real story every time he posted.] How typical,,, asking for help,, avoiding posting all information and complaining when things don't work... Things noted beyond the ESC [enhanced security control] issue: Jim's message 14 ran a TEST message - blocked as a SPAM/hack, DUUUHHHH Jim's message 15 verifies it ended in trash/spam - obviously the IP and/or sender was added to SPAM blocking activity; message should have been moved to INBOX to remove the SPAM/Junk block.. Jim's message 31 - grandfathered account deleted/removed, new account created - gees, so was the old grandfathered account gone - eheheheh That thread needs a summary with a verification of whether the original account was recovered or otherwise,, and whether or rather what caused the account [which ever one now works] to function... Doubtful whether Jim will be answering anymore questions or supplying any answers though... That discussion will *really* screw-up someone searching for the terms associated with the original errors and issues on the search engines... no finite answer and a lot of variables unaddressed.. MEB wrote: On 06/30/2009 01:23 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: Repost [1]... Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially when you haven't told all of the story in this thread? Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f =============== [1] Originally posted via Google Groups earlier today but post didn't show up on my end: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...183e098a51f85b Wow, didn't realize this has been going on since the 19th on OE General... Might want to explain in OE General what "use secure authentication" means verses SSL/TLS connections [I didn't read the whole discussion so maybe you already did]; and remind him that if an individual site OFFERS/requires a security certificate it can be installed *upon access* [e.g., for GoDaddy, Live, etc.]... and as noted over there, disabling the anti-v message check does not mean its not running [such as AVAST'S proxy runs regardless - can be tested by running filemon] so the .ini [mentioned] check should be added to the firewall, router, and other checks [ports/etc. which you probably already did..]. Sorry to butt-in here.... just brain activity leaking out... And just to pitch a biach,,, wonder why Microsoft/Live just didn't use IMAP... pop is so clunky... -- ~ -- ~ -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government _______
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#36
July 1st 09, 05:14 PM
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SIDE NOTE: Glad to see Microsoft/HotMail/Live at least stopped using off-site authorization [now using secure.wlxrs.com {msft} - its own secure authority] for mail. Now if we could only get them to support IMAP so we could access all of our folders.... Still have all those *legal noticed/government/media messages* STUCK on one of the HotMail accounts, and Live support's ANSWER was to delete/close the account [reference - discussion {this group} and contacts with Live over a year ago] which means I'm still not impressed with the purported service, dang, I should have used GMail. On 07/01/2009 11:42 AM, MEB wrote: On 07/01/2009 01:56 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: [Review the original thread and Jim's references to ESC, primarily in latter replies. It seems that we'd learn more about the real story every time he posted.] How typical,,, asking for help,, avoiding posting all information and complaining when things don't work... Things noted beyond the ESC [enhanced security control] issue: Jim's message 14 ran a TEST message - blocked as a SPAM/hack, DUUUHHHH Jim's message 15 verifies it ended in trash/spam - obviously the IP and/or sender was added to SPAM blocking activity; message should have been moved to INBOX to remove the SPAM/Junk block.. Jim's message 31 - grandfathered account deleted/removed, new account created - gees, so was the old grandfathered account gone - eheheheh That thread needs a summary with a verification of whether the original account was recovered or otherwise,, and whether or rather what caused the account [which ever one now works] to function... Doubtful whether Jim will be answering anymore questions or supplying any answers though... That discussion will *really* screw-up someone searching for the terms associated with the original errors and issues on the search engines... no finite answer and a lot of variables unaddressed.. MEB wrote: On 06/30/2009 01:23 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: Repost [1]... Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially when you haven't told all of the story in this thread? Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f =============== [1] Originally posted via Google Groups earlier today but post didn't show up on my end: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...183e098a51f85b Wow, didn't realize this has been going on since the 19th on OE General... Might want to explain in OE General what "use secure authentication" means verses SSL/TLS connections [I didn't read the whole discussion so maybe you already did]; and remind him that if an individual site OFFERS/requires a security certificate it can be installed *upon access* [e.g., for GoDaddy, Live, etc.]... and as noted over there, disabling the anti-v message check does not mean its not running [such as AVAST'S proxy runs regardless - can be tested by running filemon] so the .ini [mentioned] check should be added to the firewall, router, and other checks [ports/etc. which you probably already did..]. Sorry to butt-in here.... just brain activity leaking out... And just to pitch a biach,,, wonder why Microsoft/Live just didn't use IMAP... pop is so clunky... -- ~ -- ~ -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government _______
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July 1st 09, 05:14 PM
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SIDE NOTE: Glad to see Microsoft/HotMail/Live at least stopped using off-site authorization [now using secure.wlxrs.com {msft} - its own secure authority] for mail. Now if we could only get them to support IMAP so we could access all of our folders.... Still have all those *legal noticed/government/media messages* STUCK on one of the HotMail accounts, and Live support's ANSWER was to delete/close the account [reference - discussion {this group} and contacts with Live over a year ago] which means I'm still not impressed with the purported service, dang, I should have used GMail. On 07/01/2009 11:42 AM, MEB wrote: On 07/01/2009 01:56 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: [Review the original thread and Jim's references to ESC, primarily in latter replies. It seems that we'd learn more about the real story every time he posted.] How typical,,, asking for help,, avoiding posting all information and complaining when things don't work... Things noted beyond the ESC [enhanced security control] issue: Jim's message 14 ran a TEST message - blocked as a SPAM/hack, DUUUHHHH Jim's message 15 verifies it ended in trash/spam - obviously the IP and/or sender was added to SPAM blocking activity; message should have been moved to INBOX to remove the SPAM/Junk block.. Jim's message 31 - grandfathered account deleted/removed, new account created - gees, so was the old grandfathered account gone - eheheheh That thread needs a summary with a verification of whether the original account was recovered or otherwise,, and whether or rather what caused the account [which ever one now works] to function... Doubtful whether Jim will be answering anymore questions or supplying any answers though... That discussion will *really* screw-up someone searching for the terms associated with the original errors and issues on the search engines... no finite answer and a lot of variables unaddressed.. MEB wrote: On 06/30/2009 01:23 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: Repost [1]... Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially when you haven't told all of the story in this thread? Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f =============== [1] Originally posted via Google Groups earlier today but post didn't show up on my end: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...183e098a51f85b Wow, didn't realize this has been going on since the 19th on OE General... Might want to explain in OE General what "use secure authentication" means verses SSL/TLS connections [I didn't read the whole discussion so maybe you already did]; and remind him that if an individual site OFFERS/requires a security certificate it can be installed *upon access* [e.g., for GoDaddy, Live, etc.]... and as noted over there, disabling the anti-v message check does not mean its not running [such as AVAST'S proxy runs regardless - can be tested by running filemon] so the .ini [mentioned] check should be added to the firewall, router, and other checks [ports/etc. which you probably already did..]. Sorry to butt-in here.... just brain activity leaking out... And just to pitch a biach,,, wonder why Microsoft/Live just didn't use IMAP... pop is so clunky... -- ~ -- ~ -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government _______
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July 2nd 09, 03:56 PM
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Not sure what you are asking. The direct download link is from Windows Update downloads, for manually downloading updates that could alternatively be gotten through Automatic Updates. It is the same source, just different methods of getting it.
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#39
July 2nd 09, 10:43 PM
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"MEB" wrote in message ... On 07/01/2009 01:56 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: [Review the original thread and Jim's references to ESC, primarily in latter replies. It seems that we'd learn more about the real story every time he posted.] How typical,,, asking for help,, avoiding posting all information and complaining when things don't work... Things noted beyond the ESC [enhanced security control] issue: Jim's message 14 ran a TEST message - blocked as a SPAM/hack, DUUUHHHH Jim's message 15 verifies it ended in trash/spam - obviously the IP and/or sender was added to SPAM blocking activity; message should have been moved to INBOX to remove the SPAM/Junk block.. Jim's message 31 - grandfathered account deleted/removed, new account created - gees, so was the old grandfathered account gone - eheheheh That thread needs a summary with a verification of whether the original account was recovered or otherwise,, and whether or rather what caused the account [which ever one now works] to function... Doubtful whether Jim will be answering anymore questions or supplying any answers though... That discussion will *really* screw-up someone searching for the terms associated with the original errors and issues on the search engines... no finite answer and a lot of variables unaddressed.. MEB wrote: On 06/30/2009 01:23 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: Repost [1]... Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially when you haven't told all of the story in this thread? Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f =============== [1] Originally posted via Google Groups earlier today but post didn't show up on my end: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...183e098a51f85b Wow, didn't realize this has been going on since the 19th on OE General... Might want to explain in OE General what "use secure authentication" means verses SSL/TLS connections [I didn't read the whole discussion so maybe you already did]; and remind him that if an individual site OFFERS/requires a security certificate it can be installed *upon access* [e.g., for GoDaddy, Live, etc.]... and as noted over there, disabling the anti-v message check does not mean its not running [such as AVAST'S proxy runs regardless - can be tested by running filemon] so the .ini [mentioned] check should be added to the firewall, router, and other checks [ports/etc. which you probably already did..]. Sorry to butt-in here.... just brain activity leaking out... And just to pitch a biach,,, wonder why Microsoft/Live just didn't use IMAP... pop is so clunky... -- ~ -- ~ -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government _______
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July 2nd 09, 10:43 PM
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[flames] "MEB" wrote in message ... On 07/01/2009 01:56 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: [Review the original thread and Jim's references to ESC, primarily in latter replies. It seems that we'd learn more about the real story every time he posted.] How typical,,, asking for help,, avoiding posting all information and complaining when things don't work... Things noted beyond the ESC [enhanced security control] issue: Jim's message 14 ran a TEST message - blocked as a SPAM/hack, DUUUHHHH Jim's message 15 verifies it ended in trash/spam - obviously the IP and/or sender was added to SPAM blocking activity; message should have been moved to INBOX to remove the SPAM/Junk block.. Jim's message 31 - grandfathered account deleted/removed, new account created - gees, so was the old grandfathered account gone - eheheheh That thread needs a summary with a verification of whether the original account was recovered or otherwise,, and whether or rather what caused the account [which ever one now works] to function... Doubtful whether Jim will be answering anymore questions or supplying any answers though... That discussion will *really* screw-up someone searching for the terms associated with the original errors and issues on the search engines... no finite answer and a lot of variables unaddressed.. MEB wrote: On 06/30/2009 01:23 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: Repost [1]... Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially when you haven't told all of the story in this thread? Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f =============== [1] Originally posted via Google Groups earlier today but post didn't show up on my end: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...183e098a51f85b Wow, didn't realize this has been going on since the 19th on OE General... Might want to explain in OE General what "use secure authentication" means verses SSL/TLS connections [I didn't read the whole discussion so maybe you already did]; and remind him that if an individual site OFFERS/requires a security certificate it can be installed *upon access* [e.g., for GoDaddy, Live, etc.]... and as noted over there, disabling the anti-v message check does not mean its not running [such as AVAST'S proxy runs regardless - can be tested by running filemon] so the .ini [mentioned] check should be added to the firewall, router, and other checks [ports/etc. which you probably already did..]. Sorry to butt-in here.... just brain activity leaking out... And just to pitch a biach,,, wonder why Microsoft/Live just didn't use IMAP... pop is so clunky... -- ~ -- ~ -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government _______
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