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Windows 98SE on MSI K8N Neo Platinum
After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to instal
W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my XP PRO system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I will probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks). However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98 (which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD: "Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been halted to prevent corruption. After you restart your computer, Windows will use compatibility-mode drivers for each child device attached to this multi-finction device. If you want to use 32-bit drivers, you may be able to obtain an updated driver for the device that caused the problem by contacting your hardware manufacturer, or you can disable the device. Press any key to continue" *********************** Pressing key did nothing: system was hung. Restarted. Can anyone please explain what the BSOD message means as I Have NEVER come across anything like this before. What does the reference to "child devices" mean? The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard Drives are connected. Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD devices. This configuration has been in being for some time. Needless to say, the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot of components as the system failed to recognise the 2 x DVD/CDs, and thus I couldn't get to the routines during the latter part of the W98 instal. Can anyone help as I am going mad. Thanks |
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Win98 can't work with more than one primary and one secondary standard IDE
controllers. But SATA controller works as the second primary and second secondary standard IDE controllers. As I see, Primary IDE is not used -- so disable it in BIOS. Read your motherboard manual how to do that; moreover, it has to be said there also, that you MUST either disable one of the standard PATA (IDE) controllers, or not to attach the SATA drivers if in Win98. the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot of components After Win98 will work -- install the driver for motherboard from the CD that came with it, and the drivers for the other components of this motherboards after that (from the same CD). -- Mikhail Zhilin MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) http://www.aha.ru/~mwz Sorry, no technical support by e-mail. Please reply to the newsgroups only. ====== On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:29:39 +0100, "TonyK" wrote: After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to instal W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my XP PRO system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I will probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks). However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98 (which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD: "Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been halted to prevent corruption. After you restart your computer, Windows will use compatibility-mode drivers for each child device attached to this multi-finction device. If you want to use 32-bit drivers, you may be able to obtain an updated driver for the device that caused the problem by contacting your hardware manufacturer, or you can disable the device. Press any key to continue" *********************** Pressing key did nothing: system was hung. Restarted. Can anyone please explain what the BSOD message means as I Have NEVER come across anything like this before. What does the reference to "child devices" mean? The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard Drives are connected. Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD devices. This configuration has been in being for some time. Needless to say, the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot of components as the system failed to recognise the 2 x DVD/CDs, and thus I couldn't get to the routines during the latter part of the W98 instal. Can anyone help as I am going mad. Thanks |
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After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to
instal W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my XP PRO system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). What do you mean, get your XP to copy it? What exactly are you trying to do? However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98 If you are installing to a fresh (blank) partition, I do not understand how you could be having this problem. Please tell us exactly how you tried to do the installation. Or, try the installation procedures listed he http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo |
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Thanks.
You've answered it for me. I won't change anything permanently as the move to W98 was to access XP PRO which is acting up. Indeed (and I know it's not the right NG) I have set XP PRO to repair itself to day and it is nearly finished after about 7 hours. What can that mean? Thanks again "Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message ... Win98 can't work with more than one primary and one secondary standard IDE controllers. But SATA controller works as the second primary and second secondary standard IDE controllers. As I see, Primary IDE is not used -- so disable it in BIOS. Read your motherboard manual how to do that; moreover, it has to be said there also, that you MUST either disable one of the standard PATA (IDE) controllers, or not to attach the SATA drivers if in Win98. the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot of components After Win98 will work -- install the driver for motherboard from the CD that came with it, and the drivers for the other components of this motherboards after that (from the same CD). -- Mikhail Zhilin MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) http://www.aha.ru/~mwz Sorry, no technical support by e-mail. Please reply to the newsgroups only. ====== On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:29:39 +0100, "TonyK" wrote: After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to instal W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my XP PRO system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I will probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks). However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98 (which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD: "Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been halted to prevent corruption. After you restart your computer, Windows will use compatibility-mode drivers for each child device attached to this multi-finction device. If you want to use 32-bit drivers, you may be able to obtain an updated driver for the device that caused the problem by contacting your hardware manufacturer, or you can disable the device. Press any key to continue" *********************** Pressing key did nothing: system was hung. Restarted. Can anyone please explain what the BSOD message means as I Have NEVER come across anything like this before. What does the reference to "child devices" mean? The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard Drives are connected. Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD devices. This configuration has been in being for some time. Needless to say, the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot of components as the system failed to recognise the 2 x DVD/CDs, and thus I couldn't get to the routines during the latter part of the W98 instal. Can anyone help as I am going mad. Thanks |
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After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to instal W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my XP PRO system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I will probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks). However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98 (which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD: "Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been halted to prevent corruption. After you restart your computer, Windows will use compatibility-mode drivers for each child device attached to this multi-finction device. If you want to use 32-bit drivers, you may be able to obtain an updated driver for the device that caused the problem by contacting your hardware manufacturer, or you can disable the device. Press any key to continue" *********************** Pressing key did nothing: system was hung. Restarted. Can anyone please explain what the BSOD message means as I Have NEVER come across anything like this before. What does the reference to "child devices" mean? The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard Drives are connected. Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD devices. This configuration has been in being for some time. Needless to say, the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot of components as the system failed to recognise the 2 x DVD/CDs, and thus I couldn't get to the routines during the latter part of the W98 instal. Can anyone help as I am going mad. Thanks http://www.msi.com.tw/program/produc...il.php?UID=572 Did you not notice the little sighn that said (In big red font no less) "NOTE: NVIDIA nForce 3/4 Series board DO NOT support Windows® 98/ME"? -- Posted using the http://www.windowsforumz.com interface, at author's request Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards Topic URL: http://www.windowsforumz.com/General...ict428233.html Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: http://www.windowsforumz.com/eform.php?p=1435924 |
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:08:40 +0100, "TonyK" wrote:
Thanks. You've answered it for me. I won't change anything permanently as the move to W98 was to access XP PRO which is acting up. Indeed (and I know it's not the right NG) I have set XP PRO to repair itself to day and it is nearly finished after about 7 hours. What can that mean? Thanks again I saw this picture twice -- when the WinXP repair delayed at 39..34 minutes for hours. As it turned in the both cases, by some reason (most likely because the drive configuration was not the same already, as while the initial installation) Setup decided to change the letter of the boot drive (the drive with %windir%). So as I could understand, all this superfluous time Setup restructured the Registry because of that -- but the worst was: many of the existent programs couldn't work after the letter had been changed. So I had to restore this letter manually, as described in http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q223188 and set the proper expected letter of "PagingFiles" in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management and in all ControlSetXXX (where XXX=001, 002 etc) of HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSetXXX\Control\Se ssion Manager\Memory Management and reboot from the installation CD immediately after that, and re-run "Restore the damaged system" again -- but now it used the correct letter I set manually. What is interesting, this restoration took noticeably less time than the repair with the wrong letter. -- Mikhail Zhilin MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) http://www.aha.ru/~mwz Sorry, no technical support by e-mail. Please reply to the newsgroups only. ====== "Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message .. . Win98 can't work with more than one primary and one secondary standard IDE controllers. But SATA controller works as the second primary and second secondary standard IDE controllers. As I see, Primary IDE is not used -- so disable it in BIOS. .... ====== On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:29:39 +0100, "TonyK" wrote: After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to instal W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my XP PRO system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I will probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks). However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98 (which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD: "Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been halted to prevent corruption. ... The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard Drives are connected. Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD devices. This configuration has been in being for some time. .... |
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Windows 98SE on MSI K8N Neo Platinum
"TonyK" a écrit dans le message de news: ... After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to instal W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my XP PRO system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I will probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks). However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98 (which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD: "Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been halted to prevent corruption. After you restart your computer, Windows will use compatibility-mode drivers for each child device attached to this multi-finction device. If you want to use 32-bit drivers, you may be able to obtain an updated driver for the device that caused the problem by contacting your hardware manufacturer, or you can disable the device. Press any key to continue" *********************** Pressing key did nothing: system was hung. Restarted. Can anyone please explain what the BSOD message means as I Have NEVER come across anything like this before. What does the reference to "child devices" mean? The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard Drives are connected. Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD devices. This configuration has been in being for some time. Needless to say, the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot of components as the system failed to recognise the 2 x DVD/CDs, and thus I couldn't get to the routines during the latter part of the W98 instal. Can anyone help as I am going mad. Thanks If you need to recover data from an NTFS partition you can download Ultimate Boot CD for Windows, burn the image to a CD, and boot from it. Very effective. Fred |
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Windows 98SE on MSI K8N Neo Platinum
MS-DOS Compatibility Mode Problems with PCI IDE Controllers
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=151911 might give you some help. ern "milsabords" wrote in message ... "TonyK" a écrit dans le message de news: ... After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to instal W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my XP PRO system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I will probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks). However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98 (which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD: "Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been halted to prevent corruption. After you restart your computer, Windows will use compatibility-mode drivers for each child device attached to this multi-finction device. If you want to use 32-bit drivers, you may be able to obtain an updated driver for the device that caused the problem by contacting your hardware manufacturer, or you can disable the device. Press any key to continue" *********************** Pressing key did nothing: system was hung. Restarted. Can anyone please explain what the BSOD message means as I Have NEVER come across anything like this before. What does the reference to "child devices" mean? The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard Drives are connected. Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD devices. This configuration has been in being for some time. Needless to say, the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot of components as the system failed to recognise the 2 x DVD/CDs, and thus I couldn't get to the routines during the latter part of the W98 instal. Can anyone help as I am going mad. Thanks If you need to recover data from an NTFS partition you can download Ultimate Boot CD for Windows, burn the image to a CD, and boot from it. Very effective. Fred |
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