A Windows 98 & ME forum. Win98banter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » Win98banter forum » Windows ME » Setup & Installation
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Uninstall ME



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old May 5th 05, 06:23 PM
ms
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Uninstall ME

A used Dell computer, no system disks, no ME install disk. It is running
ME, IMO it originally came from Dell with W98SE installed.

ME does not appear in Add/Remove programs.

How to cleanly uninstall ME?
  #2  
Old May 5th 05, 06:52 PM
Mike M
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

You cannot uninstall an operating system unless you a) installed the
operating system as an upgrade over a previous operating system, b) chose
to retain that previous operating system when you upgraded, and, c) have
not since deleted the uninstall files and those of the previous OS that
would have been saved as part of b).

If Uninstall Win Me does not appear in Add/Remove Programs either b) or c)
is no longer true. Your next step rather depends on what you next intend
to do but booting to DOS using a boot floppy and using the FORMAT command
will reformat your hard disk, or at least your C: drive, and remove all
usable traces of Win Me.

See also KB255867 - "How to Use the Fdisk Tool and the Format Tool to
Partition or Repartition a Hard Disk"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=255867).
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



ms wrote:

A used Dell computer, no system disks, no ME install disk. It is
running ME, IMO it originally came from Dell with W98SE installed.

ME does not appear in Add/Remove programs.

How to cleanly uninstall ME?


  #3  
Old May 5th 05, 10:26 PM
ms
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Mike M wrote:
You cannot uninstall an operating system unless you a) installed the
operating system as an upgrade over a previous operating system, b)
chose to retain that previous operating system when you upgraded, and,
c) have not since deleted the uninstall files and those of the previous
OS that would have been saved as part of b).

If Uninstall Win Me does not appear in Add/Remove Programs either b) or
c) is no longer true. Your next step rather depends on what you next
intend to do but booting to DOS using a boot floppy and using the FORMAT
command will reformat your hard disk, or at least your C: drive, and
remove all usable traces of Win Me.

See also KB255867 - "How to Use the Fdisk Tool and the Format Tool to
Partition or Repartition a Hard Disk"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=255867).


Thanks, Mike
You identified the issue, I will have to format- thanks for the link, as it
will be new to me.

I am used to W98SE, and ME is too "graphic" to suit me. I've noticed that
mainly experts like ME and can alter it to suit. For me, W98SE was always
pretty trouble free, so I will install it. This is a 700 MHZ Celeron
puter, only 128 MHZ RAM, so it later would be only a minimal XP machine if
I did that.

I notice ME keeps only 2-5% RAM free, with only ME installed. I uninstalled
lots of stuff that was on it.

On my P166 with only 96 MB RAM, I usally have 20% free.

Mike S
  #4  
Old May 5th 05, 10:43 PM
Jack E Martinelli
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Mike S, I strongly encourage you to preserve WinME, rather than revert to
Win98, for the following reasons (among others):

1) SFP, rather than SFC
2) SR (no counterpart in Win98)
3) better memory management (BTW, your comments your "free memory" are
totally irrelevant to Win98 and ME, but that is for another post, later)
4) better swap file management
5) better system resource management
6) and best of all ... you get Mike Maltby, Noel Paton, Richard Harper, Alan
Edwards, Shane, Mart, Rick T, Joan, Heather (Figgs), heirloom, et.al., and
(once a year) Jim Eshelman to aid you when you are stuck!

OTH, your 700 MHz celery box will run XP just fine for the casual, typical
uses (I did maintenance on one such box just two weeks ago), but don't try
to load Half Life 2, even if your video card is very hot!
XP beats any Win9X, hands down, in far more ways than I have suggested that
ME is better than Win98.

Just so there's no ambiguity: carefully consider using WinME or XP Home,
rather than installing Win98! This is a clear case where "change is good".
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"ms" wrote in message ...
Mike M wrote:
You cannot uninstall an operating system unless you a) installed the
operating system as an upgrade over a previous operating system, b)
chose to retain that previous operating system when you upgraded, and,
c) have not since deleted the uninstall files and those of the previous
OS that would have been saved as part of b).

If Uninstall Win Me does not appear in Add/Remove Programs either b) or
c) is no longer true. Your next step rather depends on what you next
intend to do but booting to DOS using a boot floppy and using the FORMAT
command will reformat your hard disk, or at least your C: drive, and
remove all usable traces of Win Me.

See also KB255867 - "How to Use the Fdisk Tool and the Format Tool to
Partition or Repartition a Hard Disk"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=255867).


Thanks, Mike
You identified the issue, I will have to format- thanks for the link, as

it
will be new to me.

I am used to W98SE, and ME is too "graphic" to suit me. I've noticed that
mainly experts like ME and can alter it to suit. For me, W98SE was always
pretty trouble free, so I will install it. This is a 700 MHZ Celeron
puter, only 128 MHZ RAM, so it later would be only a minimal XP machine if
I did that.

I notice ME keeps only 2-5% RAM free, with only ME installed. I

uninstalled
lots of stuff that was on it.

On my P166 with only 96 MB RAM, I usally have 20% free.

Mike S



  #5  
Old May 5th 05, 11:10 PM
Mike M
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Mike,

Best of luck with whatever you eventually decide to do. I don't really
like making "me too" posts but feel that I should endorse Jack's comments
and that you would probably be better off sticking with Win Me. You
mention Win Me being more graphic - the answer to that is to use Classic
Mode (Control Panel - Folder Options - General where you will find options
allowing you to choose Classic Mode for both your desktop and when viewing
folders using Windows Explorer. For myself I hate eye candy and always
use Classic Mode and never enable "themes" whether in Win 98, Me or XP.

As for memory usage, Win Me has by far the best memory manager of any Win
9x operating system. Remember the old adage, memory is there to be used
and that unused memory is nothing more than wasted memory.

Regards,
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



ms wrote:

Thanks, Mike
You identified the issue, I will have to format- thanks for the link,
as it will be new to me.

I am used to W98SE, and ME is too "graphic" to suit me. I've noticed
that mainly experts like ME and can alter it to suit. For me, W98SE
was always pretty trouble free, so I will install it. This is a 700
MHZ Celeron puter, only 128 MHZ RAM, so it later would be only a
minimal XP machine if I did that.

I notice ME keeps only 2-5% RAM free, with only ME installed. I
uninstalled lots of stuff that was on it.

On my P166 with only 96 MB RAM, I usally have 20% free.


  #6  
Old May 6th 05, 04:43 AM
Rick T
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

WinME has better memory management 64MB than 98SE, the "2-5% free" is
fine - it will be freed up as necessary

Out of curiousity what are you doing with the old clunker ?


Rick


ms wrote:
Mike M wrote:

You cannot uninstall an operating system unless you a) installed the
operating system as an upgrade over a previous operating system, b)
chose to retain that previous operating system when you upgraded, and,
c) have not since deleted the uninstall files and those of the
previous OS that would have been saved as part of b).

If Uninstall Win Me does not appear in Add/Remove Programs either b)
or c) is no longer true. Your next step rather depends on what you
next intend to do but booting to DOS using a boot floppy and using the
FORMAT command will reformat your hard disk, or at least your C:
drive, and remove all usable traces of Win Me.

See also KB255867 - "How to Use the Fdisk Tool and the Format Tool to
Partition or Repartition a Hard Disk"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=255867).



Thanks, Mike
You identified the issue, I will have to format- thanks for the link, as
it will be new to me.

I am used to W98SE, and ME is too "graphic" to suit me. I've noticed
that mainly experts like ME and can alter it to suit. For me, W98SE was
always pretty trouble free, so I will install it. This is a 700 MHZ
Celeron puter, only 128 MHZ RAM, so it later would be only a minimal XP
machine if I did that.

I notice ME keeps only 2-5% RAM free, with only ME installed. I
uninstalled lots of stuff that was on it.

On my P166 with only 96 MB RAM, I usally have 20% free.

Mike S

  #7  
Old May 6th 05, 01:47 PM
Jack E Martinelli
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Please let me followup by recommending that you use at least 256 MB for
WinME, and 512 MB for XP on the old box.
If you do not use the swapfile very much, the box will seem smoother and
faster.

Using a 7200 rpm, ATA100 or 133 HD will improve performance, too. Just copy
the current bootable HD to the faster drive and configure it to be the boot
volume. Use the slower, original drive as a second, archive drive, but
create a 2.1 GB primary partition at its head and allocate it for the
swap/page file, to increase performance.

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
Mike S, I strongly encourage you to preserve WinME, rather than revert to
Win98, for the following reasons (among others):

1) SFP, rather than SFC
2) SR (no counterpart in Win98)
3) better memory management (BTW, your comments your "free memory"

are
totally irrelevant to Win98 and ME, but that is for another post, later)
4) better swap file management
5) better system resource management
6) and best of all ... you get Mike Maltby, Noel Paton, Richard Harper,

Alan
Edwards, Shane, Mart, Rick T, Joan, Heather (Figgs), heirloom, et.al.,

and
(once a year) Jim Eshelman to aid you when you are stuck!

OTH, your 700 MHz celery box will run XP just fine for the casual, typical
uses (I did maintenance on one such box just two weeks ago), but don't

try
to load Half Life 2, even if your video card is very hot!
XP beats any Win9X, hands down, in far more ways than I have suggested

that
ME is better than Win98.

Just so there's no ambiguity: carefully consider using WinME or XP Home,
rather than installing Win98! This is a clear case where "change is

good".
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"ms" wrote in message ...
Mike M wrote:
You cannot uninstall an operating system unless you a) installed the
operating system as an upgrade over a previous operating system, b)
chose to retain that previous operating system when you upgraded, and,
c) have not since deleted the uninstall files and those of the

previous
OS that would have been saved as part of b).

If Uninstall Win Me does not appear in Add/Remove Programs either b)

or
c) is no longer true. Your next step rather depends on what you next
intend to do but booting to DOS using a boot floppy and using the

FORMAT
command will reformat your hard disk, or at least your C: drive, and
remove all usable traces of Win Me.

See also KB255867 - "How to Use the Fdisk Tool and the Format Tool to
Partition or Repartition a Hard Disk"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=255867).


Thanks, Mike
You identified the issue, I will have to format- thanks for the link, as

it
will be new to me.

I am used to W98SE, and ME is too "graphic" to suit me. I've noticed

that
mainly experts like ME and can alter it to suit. For me, W98SE was

always
pretty trouble free, so I will install it. This is a 700 MHZ Celeron
puter, only 128 MHZ RAM, so it later would be only a minimal XP machine

if
I did that.

I notice ME keeps only 2-5% RAM free, with only ME installed. I

uninstalled
lots of stuff that was on it.

On my P166 with only 96 MB RAM, I usally have 20% free.

Mike S





  #8  
Old May 6th 05, 09:30 PM
Noel Paton
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Jack
For Win ME, I've found it to work quite happily (for office-style use) in
64MB - for anything involving detailed graphics usage, then 128MB is a
minimum (e.g. photo-editing with anything other than the inbuilt editors).

There is VERY RARELY a need to go beyond that point, unless dealing with
databases of one sort or another ( the most notable being OE and Outlook!!)


For XP - 256MB is a realistic minimum, while 512MB will allow just about
anything, with care.

Using the slower of the physical HD's for the swapfile is likely to degrade
the potential speed-increase, as (if the swapfile is accessed regularly),
there could be benefits to running off the main HD, using a fixed-size
swapfile instead. OTOH, if the two HD's are identical, then there's definite
performance advantages to having the swapfile on a different HD to the main
one.



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
Please let me followup by recommending that you use at least 256 MB for
WinME, and 512 MB for XP on the old box.
If you do not use the swapfile very much, the box will seem smoother and
faster.

Using a 7200 rpm, ATA100 or 133 HD will improve performance, too. Just
copy
the current bootable HD to the faster drive and configure it to be the
boot
volume. Use the slower, original drive as a second, archive drive, but
create a 2.1 GB primary partition at its head and allocate it for the
swap/page file, to increase performance.

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
Mike S, I strongly encourage you to preserve WinME, rather than revert
to
Win98, for the following reasons (among others):

1) SFP, rather than SFC
2) SR (no counterpart in Win98)
3) better memory management (BTW, your comments your "free memory"

are
totally irrelevant to Win98 and ME, but that is for another post, later)
4) better swap file management
5) better system resource management
6) and best of all ... you get Mike Maltby, Noel Paton, Richard Harper,

Alan
Edwards, Shane, Mart, Rick T, Joan, Heather (Figgs), heirloom, et.al.,

and
(once a year) Jim Eshelman to aid you when you are stuck!

OTH, your 700 MHz celery box will run XP just fine for the casual,
typical
uses (I did maintenance on one such box just two weeks ago), but don't

try
to load Half Life 2, even if your video card is very hot!
XP beats any Win9X, hands down, in far more ways than I have suggested

that
ME is better than Win98.

Just so there's no ambiguity: carefully consider using WinME or XP Home,
rather than installing Win98! This is a clear case where "change is

good".
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"ms" wrote in message ...
Mike M wrote:
You cannot uninstall an operating system unless you a) installed the
operating system as an upgrade over a previous operating system, b)
chose to retain that previous operating system when you upgraded,
and,
c) have not since deleted the uninstall files and those of the

previous
OS that would have been saved as part of b).

If Uninstall Win Me does not appear in Add/Remove Programs either b)

or
c) is no longer true. Your next step rather depends on what you next
intend to do but booting to DOS using a boot floppy and using the

FORMAT
command will reformat your hard disk, or at least your C: drive, and
remove all usable traces of Win Me.

See also KB255867 - "How to Use the Fdisk Tool and the Format Tool to
Partition or Repartition a Hard Disk"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=255867).

Thanks, Mike
You identified the issue, I will have to format- thanks for the link,
as

it
will be new to me.

I am used to W98SE, and ME is too "graphic" to suit me. I've noticed

that
mainly experts like ME and can alter it to suit. For me, W98SE was

always
pretty trouble free, so I will install it. This is a 700 MHZ Celeron
puter, only 128 MHZ RAM, so it later would be only a minimal XP machine

if
I did that.

I notice ME keeps only 2-5% RAM free, with only ME installed. I

uninstalled
lots of stuff that was on it.

On my P166 with only 96 MB RAM, I usally have 20% free.

Mike S







  #9  
Old May 7th 05, 03:30 PM
ms
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

ms wrote:
A used Dell computer, no system disks, no ME install disk. It is running
ME, IMO it originally came from Dell with W98SE installed.

ME does not appear in Add/Remove programs.

How to cleanly uninstall ME?


Thanks to all for good data.
Based on this, I decided to keep ME and work with it.

I loaded one of my W98 utilities, and it tripped me up. Tweakui ver. 1.33
IMO would work in ME, but it does not. It really screwed things up. My
Control Panel is gone, Accessories in Start Menu is gone, etc.

Need some help:
1. How to get to a DOS prompt- see no way to do it?
In W98SE, when a glitch occurs, I go to a DOS prompt, scanreg/restore, I
pick an earlier registry to load, and go back to before the glitch.
How to do that in ME?

2. What does System Restore do, and how to activate it? Will this help the
situation? BTW, I've seen several comments to get rid of it.

3. How to get Control Panel back?

4. How to get the Accessories folder shortcut back into Start Menu?

5. In the Shutdown screen, in W98, I have "go to DOS prompt", not in ME,
how to create that?

6. How to create a ME boot disk?

7. Now the Password screen is coming up, I know the W98 fixes, are there
any unique ME fixes?

8. How to remove Network Neighborhood from desktop?

Thanks
  #10  
Old May 7th 05, 03:37 PM
ms
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Rick T wrote:
WinME has better memory management 64MB than 98SE, the "2-5% free" is
fine - it will be freed up as necessary

Out of curiousity what are you doing with the old clunker ?


Rick


ms wrote:

Mike M wrote:

You cannot uninstall an operating system unless you a) installed the
operating system as an upgrade over a previous operating system, b)
chose to retain that previous operating system when you upgraded,
and, c) have not since deleted the uninstall files and those of the
previous OS that would have been saved as part of b).

If Uninstall Win Me does not appear in Add/Remove Programs either b)
or c) is no longer true. Your next step rather depends on what you
next intend to do but booting to DOS using a boot floppy and using
the FORMAT command will reformat your hard disk, or at least your C:
drive, and remove all usable traces of Win Me.

See also KB255867 - "How to Use the Fdisk Tool and the Format Tool to
Partition or Repartition a Hard Disk"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=255867).




Thanks, Mike
You identified the issue, I will have to format- thanks for the link,
as it will be new to me.

I am used to W98SE, and ME is too "graphic" to suit me. I've noticed
that mainly experts like ME and can alter it to suit. For me, W98SE
was always pretty trouble free, so I will install it. This is a 700
MHZ Celeron puter, only 128 MHZ RAM, so it later would be only a
minimal XP machine if I did that.

I notice ME keeps only 2-5% RAM free, with only ME installed. I
uninstalled lots of stuff that was on it.

On my P166 with only 96 MB RAM, I usally have 20% free.

Mike S

My "old clunker" from 1997 does everything I need. It is a custom computer,
and still runs fine. I use Firefox and Thunderbird, the only MS util on the
hard drive is W98SE, use all freeware, nearly all noinstalls, even at 166
MHZ, it runs quick, faster than I see other peoples machines loaded with
lots of big installs.

I will hope to convert this 700 MHZ puter to run the same way.
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Uninstall etrust EZ Armour AV Keith Young General 17 October 30th 04 06:19 PM
cant uninstall agnitum outpost FW arvind Software & Applications 0 August 18th 04 07:05 PM
Cannont uninstall nor reinstall WSB11: Linksys says it is problem with W98... Gregg Woodcock Improving Performance 3 August 9th 04 01:00 AM
Uninstall a program that won't uninstall General 1 July 18th 04 11:22 PM
Program uninstall doesn't work. Joe General 3 May 24th 04 11:14 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 Win98banter.
The comments are property of their posters.