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Not to mentionn 'unbelievable'!
Shane "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... lol How sad is that g Joan Noel Paton wrote: snip (he and I are Brits, and prefer the cricket). |
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Sorry Noel, but I'm back. I've been installing various drivers for the vid
card all afternoon, including ones that I know have worked in the past, but as soon as I install a driver and reboot, the blue screen is back and I can't boot normally. I then have to go in thru safe mode, delete the driver, and then I can reboot in normal mode but I'm then stuck with VGA. Any idea what I should try next? As you can tell, I am lost. George J. Wallace |
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Hmm - could be the INF file itself has got corrupted/changed (or it's now
installing the wrong version of the file) Try installing these ones - you've had the Catalyst set https://support.ati.com/ics/support/...ge&folderID=27 To install them, Boot to Safe Mode, then Remove the existing drivers from Device manager, and on the reboot to normal mode, force an install of the default VGA drivers - then run the installer -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "George J. Wallace" wrote in message ... Sorry Noel, but I'm back. I've been installing various drivers for the vid card all afternoon, including ones that I know have worked in the past, but as soon as I install a driver and reboot, the blue screen is back and I can't boot normally. I then have to go in thru safe mode, delete the driver, and then I can reboot in normal mode but I'm then stuck with VGA. Any idea what I should try next? As you can tell, I am lost. George J. Wallace |
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Try downloading and running the Catalyst uninstaller
(https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...ninstaller.exe) as it is just possible that the problem is caused by a file that is not being deleted when you uninstall the drivers and is sticking around and causing problems when you load new drivers. -- Mike Maltby George J. Wallace wrote: Sorry Noel, but I'm back. I've been installing various drivers for the vid card all afternoon, including ones that I know have worked in the past, but as soon as I install a driver and reboot, the blue screen is back and I can't boot normally. I then have to go in thru safe mode, delete the driver, and then I can reboot in normal mode but I'm then stuck with VGA. Any idea what I should try next? As you can tell, I am lost. George J. Wallace |
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Hi Noel;
Do you mean I should remove "Standard Display Adapter(VGA)"? It's the only entry I have under display adapters in device manager. George J. Wallace |
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Ah - that's the one that you need to be present when installing the Catalyst
or std driverset from ATI. go straight to the install after running the removal tool (see Mike's post) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "George J. Wallace" wrote in message ... Hi Noel; Do you mean I should remove "Standard Display Adapter(VGA)"? It's the only entry I have under display adapters in device manager. George J. Wallace |
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Hi Noel;
I've tried every ATI driver with varying vcache and swapfile values, using the uninstall too in between. I just have several questions and then I'll leave you alone. Since the iosubsys files are system files, is there anywhere that Me keeps backup copies? Would they possibly have been corrupted, too, from all the install attempts I've made? If I re-install Me or upgrade the Me installed on C to XP, would it bring in new, valid iosubsys files or would it holdover the old corrupted files? I've been moving everything I can off of my C drive. Does this sound like a case of reformat/re-install? Can I re-install Me when I have XP resident on another drive or will I have to disconnect the 2nd drive from the system first? Thanks, again, for all your help. George J. Wallace" |
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George
It's unlikely (but not impossible) that the iosubsys files would be corrupted - 6 of them are covered by System File Protection, while the others are not. New copies can be extracted from the CAB files (in C:\Windows\Options) in the usual manner, using MSCONFIG (note that the files covered by SFP will require booting to DOS - [or XP] - for replacement). Will reinstalling ME over the top cure the problem? I don't honestly know. If you are dual-booting ME and XP at present, then you may well encounter problems with entering XP afterwards, depending on the boot manager you use. and will have to use the fixboot/fixmbr utilities from the XP disk. Will installing XP over the top work? - probably, since the driver-set is different,and there is no hold-over code. Note that there may be other problems that surface in such cases - which is why it's never a good idea to attempt 'fix by upgrade'. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "George J. Wallace" wrote in message ... Hi Noel; I've tried every ATI driver with varying vcache and swapfile values, using the uninstall too in between. I just have several questions and then I'll leave you alone. Since the iosubsys files are system files, is there anywhere that Me keeps backup copies? Would they possibly have been corrupted, too, from all the install attempts I've made? If I re-install Me or upgrade the Me installed on C to XP, would it bring in new, valid iosubsys files or would it holdover the old corrupted files? I've been moving everything I can off of my C drive. Does this sound like a case of reformat/re-install? Can I re-install Me when I have XP resident on another drive or will I have to disconnect the 2nd drive from the system first? Thanks, again, for all your help. George J. Wallace" |
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George asked :-
Since the iosubsys files are system files, is there anywhere that Me keeps backup copies? Most are held as 'originals' in the CAB files in one of the WINDOWS\OPTIONS sub-folders (as per your WinMe CD). However, just a WAG, but earlier Noel mentioned :- Hmm - could be the INF file itself has got corrupted/changed There *may* still be a 'faulty' .inf file associated with your ATI driver, lurking in the \INF\OTHER folder which didn't get deleted when you removed the drivers. (This issue seems to bring back some old and painful memories regarding these 'other' .inf files). (or it's now installing the wrong version of the file) "Removing" drivers - even in Safe Mode - doesn't always remove everything g Might be worth confirming and deleting/renaming this (and/or any other ATI driver files still on your WinMe partition) before you try re-installing the video drivers again. Also, a couple re-boots between removing and re-installing drivers and then re-searching, may help 'flush' the more stubborn files. Best of luck Mart "George J. Wallace" wrote in message ... Hi Noel; I've tried every ATI driver with varying vcache and swapfile values, using the uninstall too in between. I just have several questions and then I'll leave you alone. Since the iosubsys files are system files, is there anywhere that Me keeps backup copies? Would they possibly have been corrupted, too, from all the install attempts I've made? If I re-install Me or upgrade the Me installed on C to XP, would it bring in new, valid iosubsys files or would it holdover the old corrupted files? I've been moving everything I can off of my C drive. Does this sound like a case of reformat/re-install? Can I re-install Me when I have XP resident on another drive or will I have to disconnect the 2nd drive from the system first? Thanks, again, for all your help. George J. Wallace" |
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BTW - If you do find an associated .inf file in the \INF\OTHER folder, there
*might* even be a further associated .pnf (Windows Precompiled Setup Information) file which was generated whilst installing the driver, in the the \INF folder. If so, this may also need renaming/deleting. Mart "Mart" wrote in message ... George asked :- Since the iosubsys files are system files, is there anywhere that Me keeps backup copies? Most are held as 'originals' in the CAB files in one of the WINDOWS\OPTIONS sub-folders (as per your WinMe CD). However, just a WAG, but earlier Noel mentioned :- Hmm - could be the INF file itself has got corrupted/changed There *may* still be a 'faulty' .inf file associated with your ATI driver, lurking in the \INF\OTHER folder which didn't get deleted when you removed the drivers. (This issue seems to bring back some old and painful memories regarding these 'other' .inf files). (or it's now installing the wrong version of the file) "Removing" drivers - even in Safe Mode - doesn't always remove everything g Might be worth confirming and deleting/renaming this (and/or any other ATI driver files still on your WinMe partition) before you try re-installing the video drivers again. Also, a couple re-boots between removing and re-installing drivers and then re-searching, may help 'flush' the more stubborn files. Best of luck Mart "George J. Wallace" wrote in message ... Hi Noel; I've tried every ATI driver with varying vcache and swapfile values, using the uninstall too in between. I just have several questions and then I'll leave you alone. Since the iosubsys files are system files, is there anywhere that Me keeps backup copies? Would they possibly have been corrupted, too, from all the install attempts I've made? If I re-install Me or upgrade the Me installed on C to XP, would it bring in new, valid iosubsys files or would it holdover the old corrupted files? I've been moving everything I can off of my C drive. Does this sound like a case of reformat/re-install? Can I re-install Me when I have XP resident on another drive or will I have to disconnect the 2nd drive from the system first? Thanks, again, for all your help. George J. Wallace" |
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