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  #11  
Old March 21st 15, 09:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default win98se.iso

In message , JJ
writes:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 15:56:17 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
JJ,

It's either on the Windows box or on the Windows sticker
that was placed onto your old computer's case.


Are you sure about that ? I always thought that the different versions and
even batches, possibly even each CD, would have different keys.


Definitely not each CD; they're mass-produced.

What do you mean? You're asking *where* to find the product key right?

The Windows product key is unique even for the same Windows version,
edition, and build. But you can use the product key for other installation
as long as it's for the same Windows version and edition (legality aside).


Yes, and - certainly for '98 - (a) there's no "activation" where it
calls Microsoft, (b) lots of keys are available on the 'net - 98guy used
to not infrequently post a batch of them here.

AFAIK, OEM and retail product keys are considered as the same edition (i.e.
compatible). e.g. OEM full and retail full, and OEM upgrade and retail
upgrade. Full and Upgrade edition product keys are not compatible.


I don't _think_ OEM keys are compatible: certainly for _some_ Microsoft
products of that era, one sort of key is in the format
XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX, where each X is either a letter or a
digit, whereas OEM ones have one of the blocks replaced by OEM
(obviously just three characters not five). I _think_ Windows 98 fell
into this category.
[]
Mine is only the OEM CD. It's still in perfect condition. I don't even let
any fingerprint left on it.


I hope it's second edition - the improvements were worth having. (Though
don't ask me this far down the line what they were! Better USB support
almost certainly was part of it.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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  #12  
Old March 21st 15, 02:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
R.Wieser
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Default win98se.iso

JJ,

What do you mean? You're asking *where* to find the
product key right?


Yep. Because I got the feeling, from another post recenty, that it might
have been included in the download. As I could not find it in the
accompanying files nor on the CD itself I had to ask.

Your response indicates that its not included (which I find quite logical,
considering the Law), and I should use the one I already have.

But you can use the product key for other installation as long
as it's for the same Windows version and edition (legality aside).


Yep, that was pretty-much I was asking for. :-) Thanks.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
JJ schreef in berichtnieuws
...
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 15:56:17 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
JJ,

It's either on the Windows box or on the Windows sticker
that was placed onto your old computer's case.


Are you sure about that ? I always thought that the different versions

and
even batches, possibly even each CD, would have different keys.


What do you mean? You're asking *where* to find the product key right?

The Windows product key is unique even for the same Windows version,
edition, and build. But you can use the product key for other installation
as long as it's for the same Windows version and edition (legality aside).

AFAIK, OEM and retail product keys are considered as the same edition

(i.e.
compatible). e.g. OEM full and retail full, and OEM upgrade and retail
upgrade. Full and Upgrade edition product keys are not compatible.

If you no longer have them,


I've still got my own as well as a few gathered from family and other

people
dropping the OS, so I can choose. :-)


Mine is only the OEM CD. It's still in perfect condition. I don't even let
any fingerprint left on it.




  #13  
Old March 21st 15, 02:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy[_4_]
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"R.Wieser" wrote:

Your response indicates that its not included (which I find quite
logical, considering the Law), and I should use the one I already
have.


Publishing or making-available Windoze product keys is not illegal and
contravenes no copyright laws nor any license agreements.

When it comes to software such as Windows, copyright does not come into
play (unless, perhaps, you re-sell the same license numerous times).

With windoze, individuals can contravene EULA's (end-user license
agreements) when they answer "yes" to the question "do you agree to
these terms" during installation but in reality they have violated one
or more of those tersm, presumably that they have obtained a product key
(which is a substitute for a license-to-use) in a way that Micro$oft
would not approve of.

But since Micro$oft is a criminal, psycopathic corporation which itself
has been charged and convicted in many different courts for violating
various laws, and we are talking about software for which they no longer
receive revue for (by their own choice), I give you the following to use
as you please:

Product keys for Windows 98, Second Edition:

JH2JK - M8TKW - JH4GD - 7763W - 7JYQ6
JF7XF - TRMXP - 3GHDT - QJF7H - 96CK6
VXWXH - K7XYD - BYG89 - DG4DX - KQV3G
HGHPB - M6ZXF - 4F9F7 - RHMM4 - CTWD6
W8T8P - ZTZVQ - HTVF8 - KPQMH - Z4GQD
HWFQM - G4XB7 - KQMQV - HF39R - QWWVT
VPKVK - HPDHZ - HTDDC - BDRDM - 923FG
BC3PP - 88VCY - JPCD6 - 6TRXV - B8GRG
V97VV - T4QTX - Y7QHT - FR9VR - TV7M6
PQWQ7 - PBC28 - 9CPCD - VKGQT - FWM4T
TVMFM - GBMS8 - 8VB97 - B97YG - KT84G
T8R6G - GJMMX - TYQKV - V6YHD - VX77T
V8WYX - PCYMQ - BMRT9 - ZZRC3 - H3TMT
CPMG2 - C8P7Q - 8H98J - GKWD9 - RP66T
WQ92D - MDYQY - DMTGB - CHMVB - G4CK6
FB2CB - Q6V9P - GWB6Q - G8KF7 - 6YQF6
QQ3PT - 3D3Q6 - WX7RM - 9QBPK - Y8RWT
FD9X6 - CRWRK - DJ9CY - XXF99 - KQ4CT
FXFXV - GBMH6 - R9HK3 - KVXBH - MYMY6
FDPY3 - D6T29 - XM3FY - JPYCF - 3D4FT
TQJ37 - 2HPPK - WT4VW - BHMXD - 3P9G6
BCWXW - VHXFD - YF4RM - H2TMX - 7YHQT
VFMGM - 7MB24 - P9RWK - 38KV2 - 6KJG6
HTXHX - JXKGG - MY3WW - PPXKW - MPJDG
MVPCQ - M8H34 - TKYJX - YY98H - BJVV6
HKJJF - 93B3Y - K2KCD - M8H7B - G3XWG

Also, try these:

VFJMK - P9XMW - 4KYXP - RVV89 - Q7J3J
FXJGV - V47K8 - 9TKJ3 - 4UVBT - CTCFW
TJKTG - TFVPY - YK87C - 8TJVV - BKRFV
HH872 - 6RM2K - FPPWV - V9HDB - BK708
FVV68 - CP77T - 3VFBV - J39XB - PBKHB
VYPK3 - 6V2M9 - XM76K - HJ7P9 - 3BMBJ
QQBV8 - GCGMC - 7CHW3 - 3F7MF - TC878

These are supposed to be for first edition upgrade cd:

HVYD6 - 3778J - PD3CK - HGVYB - RM24B
F73WT - WHD3J - CD4VR - 2GWKD - T38YD
VD4WG - Y998T - 3MGWX - GPW2Q - 3QVC8
DKRBQ - TXYCX - 6K4GD - 4CPJ7 - C6B26
FT9CH - XVXW7 - 7BFCM - RPR49 - VDHYD
PW3DW - PC9D8 - Q7VMQ - 8YTMY - RTR9G
M4G3G - 77CGM - 9FY8T - PMWBC - JJYDM

Or try these:

CCW67 - GWQY3 - 9TG6G - 3P7YP - 728JX
CQKDD - TJC3J - 3Y7YJ - 8CG9M - 22MFF
G2FGT - 6HYRW - X2W2C - RT7HW - RF7WX

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  #14  
Old March 21st 15, 03:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
R.Wieser
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98 Guy,

Though I do not quite agree with you on your view on "not illegal and
contravenes no copyright laws nor any license agreements" (especially the
distinction you make when stating "you re-sell the same license numerous
times" -- Once duplicating and selling is as as much a copyright/licence
violation as doing it numorous times*), thank you for the keys. If mine do
not work I will most likely try them.

*Also think of how currently even having just an URL to "illegal" software
on your website can land you in hot water with the Law.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
98 Guy schreef in berichtnieuws ...
"R.Wieser" wrote:

Your response indicates that its not included (which I find quite
logical, considering the Law), and I should use the one I already
have.


Publishing or making-available Windoze product keys is not illegal and
contravenes no copyright laws nor any license agreements.

When it comes to software such as Windows, copyright does not come into
play (unless, perhaps, you re-sell the same license numerous times).

With windoze, individuals can contravene EULA's (end-user license
agreements) when they answer "yes" to the question "do you agree to
these terms" during installation but in reality they have violated one
or more of those tersm, presumably that they have obtained a product key
(which is a substitute for a license-to-use) in a way that Micro$oft
would not approve of.

But since Micro$oft is a criminal, psycopathic corporation which itself
has been charged and convicted in many different courts for violating
various laws, and we are talking about software for which they no longer
receive revue for (by their own choice), I give you the following to use
as you please:

Product keys for Windows 98, Second Edition:

JH2JK - M8TKW - JH4GD - 7763W - 7JYQ6
JF7XF - TRMXP - 3GHDT - QJF7H - 96CK6
VXWXH - K7XYD - BYG89 - DG4DX - KQV3G
HGHPB - M6ZXF - 4F9F7 - RHMM4 - CTWD6
W8T8P - ZTZVQ - HTVF8 - KPQMH - Z4GQD
HWFQM - G4XB7 - KQMQV - HF39R - QWWVT
VPKVK - HPDHZ - HTDDC - BDRDM - 923FG
BC3PP - 88VCY - JPCD6 - 6TRXV - B8GRG
V97VV - T4QTX - Y7QHT - FR9VR - TV7M6
PQWQ7 - PBC28 - 9CPCD - VKGQT - FWM4T
TVMFM - GBMS8 - 8VB97 - B97YG - KT84G
T8R6G - GJMMX - TYQKV - V6YHD - VX77T
V8WYX - PCYMQ - BMRT9 - ZZRC3 - H3TMT
CPMG2 - C8P7Q - 8H98J - GKWD9 - RP66T
WQ92D - MDYQY - DMTGB - CHMVB - G4CK6
FB2CB - Q6V9P - GWB6Q - G8KF7 - 6YQF6
QQ3PT - 3D3Q6 - WX7RM - 9QBPK - Y8RWT
FD9X6 - CRWRK - DJ9CY - XXF99 - KQ4CT
FXFXV - GBMH6 - R9HK3 - KVXBH - MYMY6
FDPY3 - D6T29 - XM3FY - JPYCF - 3D4FT
TQJ37 - 2HPPK - WT4VW - BHMXD - 3P9G6
BCWXW - VHXFD - YF4RM - H2TMX - 7YHQT
VFMGM - 7MB24 - P9RWK - 38KV2 - 6KJG6
HTXHX - JXKGG - MY3WW - PPXKW - MPJDG
MVPCQ - M8H34 - TKYJX - YY98H - BJVV6
HKJJF - 93B3Y - K2KCD - M8H7B - G3XWG

Also, try these:

VFJMK - P9XMW - 4KYXP - RVV89 - Q7J3J
FXJGV - V47K8 - 9TKJ3 - 4UVBT - CTCFW
TJKTG - TFVPY - YK87C - 8TJVV - BKRFV
HH872 - 6RM2K - FPPWV - V9HDB - BK708
FVV68 - CP77T - 3VFBV - J39XB - PBKHB
VYPK3 - 6V2M9 - XM76K - HJ7P9 - 3BMBJ
QQBV8 - GCGMC - 7CHW3 - 3F7MF - TC878

These are supposed to be for first edition upgrade cd:

HVYD6 - 3778J - PD3CK - HGVYB - RM24B
F73WT - WHD3J - CD4VR - 2GWKD - T38YD
VD4WG - Y998T - 3MGWX - GPW2Q - 3QVC8
DKRBQ - TXYCX - 6K4GD - 4CPJ7 - C6B26
FT9CH - XVXW7 - 7BFCM - RPR49 - VDHYD
PW3DW - PC9D8 - Q7VMQ - 8YTMY - RTR9G
M4G3G - 77CGM - 9FY8T - PMWBC - JJYDM

Or try these:

CCW67 - GWQY3 - 9TG6G - 3P7YP - 728JX
CQKDD - TJC3J - 3Y7YJ - 8CG9M - 22MFF
G2FGT - 6HYRW - X2W2C - RT7HW - RF7WX

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  #15  
Old March 21st 15, 03:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default win98se.iso

In message , R.Wieser
writes:
98 Guy,

Though I do not quite agree with you on your view on "not illegal and
contravenes no copyright laws nor any license agreements" (especially the
distinction you make when stating "you re-sell the same license numerous
times" -- Once duplicating and selling is as as much a copyright/licence
violation as doing it numorous times*), thank you for the keys. If mine do


I think he meant the first time to be selling on the original (and no
longer using it yourself). [Though even that's against the rules for OEM
versions, though I'm not sure when that became the case - possibly not
as far back as W'98.]

not work I will most likely try them.

*Also think of how currently even having just an URL to "illegal" software
on your website can land you in hot water with the Law.


Probably no worse than you've done in your post, in which - by (top
posting and) not snipping - you've reposted all of the keys (-:

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
98 Guy schreef in berichtnieuws ...
"R.Wieser" wrote:

Your response indicates that its not included (which I find quite
logical, considering the Law), and I should use the one I already
have.


Publishing or making-available Windoze product keys is not illegal and
contravenes no copyright laws nor any license agreements.


Isn't there something about not revealing your key to third parties?
(Such a term is commonly in the Ts & Cs for, for example, website etc.
_passwords_.) Though of course if those you have revealed weren't ones
_you_ bought in the first place you _probably_ (IANAL) aren't breaking
that particular term ...

When it comes to software such as Windows, copyright does not come into
play (unless, perhaps, you re-sell the same license numerous times).

[]
Product keys for Windows 98, Second Edition:

[snipped]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Veni, Vidi, Vera (I came, I saw, we'll meet again) - Mik from S+AS Limited
), 1998
  #16  
Old March 22nd 15, 08:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill Cunningham
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Default win98se.iso


"R.Wieser" wrote in message
...
98 Guy,

Though I do not quite agree with you on your view on "not illegal and
contravenes no copyright laws nor any license agreements" (especially the
distinction you make when stating "you re-sell the same license numerous
times" -- Once duplicating and selling is as as much a copyright/licence
violation as doing it numorous times*), thank you for the keys. If mine
do
not work I will most likely try them.

*Also think of how currently even having just an URL to "illegal" software
on your website can land you in hot water with the Law.


Threre is fair ue doctrine here too to copyright law no one has
mentioned. Since DMCA, things are still working through the courts. As long
as you make no money and give credit to where credit is due i.e. (c) MS
Corp. I think you should be ok.

Bill


  #17  
Old March 23rd 15, 10:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
BillyRay0808 USA VP 2016
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Default PS: win98se.iso or "floppy images standard RAW format.img

"BillyRay0808 USA VP 2016" wrote in
message ...
"Bill Cunningham" wrote in message
...

"BillyRay0808 USA VP 2016" wrote in
message ...
"Bill Cunningham" wrote in message
...
I have a win98se.iso that was self booting to use with virtualbox or
virtualpc and my HD crashed. I have looked all around and on usenet for
what I think was a post about were I can get this image.

Microsoft Windows 98 SE


http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0...type=downloads
If anyone knows where I can get this and 3 setup img files for dos-6.2x
I would appreciate the help.

dos-6.2x
http://www.allbootdisks.com/download/iso.html
I will have to bookmark something all over again. Thanks.

http://www.mdgx.com/files/918547.php
Are there files that are I think 3 DOS disks (3.5") floppies in the ..img
format. I am not quite sure how to look for that. I don't know what the
.img format is qemu maybe? And is loaded like the disk were via
virtualbox.

Bill


Yes The .IMG Run on
VirtualBox as Arive or B:\setup disks (3.5")

Bill
Read VirtualBox Help
Search Help for
.img



5.3. The Virtual Media Manager
VirtualBox keeps track of all the hard disk,
CD/DVD-ROM and floppy disk images
which are in use by virtual machines.
These are often referred to as
"known media" and come from
two sources:

all media currently
attached to virtual machines;

"registered" media for compatibility with VirtualBox versions older than
version 4.0.
For details about how media registration has changed with version 4.0,
please refer to Section 10.1, “
Where VirtualBox stores its files”.

The known media can be viewed
and changed in the Virtual Media Manager,
which you can access from the "File"
menu in the VirtualBox main window:



The known media are conveniently grouped in t
hree tabs for the three possible formats.
These formats a

Hard disk images,
either in VirtualBox's own
Virtual Disk Image (VDI)
format or in the third-party
formats listed in the previous chapter;

CD/DVD images in
standard ISO format;

floppy images in
standard RAW format.

As you can see in the screenshot above,
for each image,
the Virtual Media Manager shows you
the full path of the image file
and other information,
such as the virtual machine
the image is currently attached to,
if any.

The Virtual Media Manager
allows you to

remove an image from
the registry
(and optionally delete the image file when doing so);

"release" an image,
that is,
detach it from a virtual machine if
it is currently attached to
one as a virtual hard disk.

Starting with version 4.0,
to create new disk images,
please use the "Storage"
page in a virtual machine's settings dialog
because disk images are
now by default stored in
each machine's own folder.

Hard disk image files can be copied onto
other host systems
and imported into virtual machines there,
although certain guest systems
(notably Windows 2000 and XP)
will require that
the new virtual machine be set up in a similar way to the old one.

Note
Do not simply make copies of virtual disk images.
If you import such a second copy into a virtual machine,
VirtualBox will complain with an error, since VirtualBox assigns
a unique identifier (UUID) to
each disk image to make sure it is only used once.
See Section 5.6,
“Cloning disk images”
for instructions on this matter. Also,
if you want to copy
a virtual machine to another system,
VirtualBox has an import/export
facility that might be better
suited for your needs;
see Section 1.14,
“Importing and exporting virtual machines”.


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To Understand

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  #18  
Old March 24th 15, 06:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
BillyRay0808 USA VP 2016[_2_]
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Default PSS: PS: win98se.iso or "floppy images MSDOS 6.22 installer, as an ISO file,


"BillyRay0808 USA VP 2016"
wrote in message
...

"Bill Cunningham"

http://virtualisedreality.com/2009/0...-6-22-in-a-vm/

I just install a brand new VM with MSDOS 6.22. Here is what I did:

1. Download MSDOS 6.22 installer, as an ISO file, from he
http://www.allbootdisks.com/download/iso.html
This is the trick, because trying to use floppy images was a nigthmare.
2. Create a new VM and configure it for MSDOS. In my case, I created a new
VHD with 250 Mb and assigned 4 MB of RAM.
3. Configure the boot sequence to: CD, HD, Floppy
4. Connect the CD to the MSDOS 6.22 ISO image
5. Startup the VM. If Parallels ask you to connect an image file to the CD,
do it again in that dialog
6. After the VM starts, you will end with an A: drive, wich is actually the
CD with the MSDOS 6.22 ISO image
7. Execute FDISK and create a primary DOS partition with all the size of
the disk, or do whatever partition scheme you want.
8. Restart the VM. At A: prompt execute FORMAT C: /S
9. Stop VM and change boot order to HD – CD – Floopy
10. Restart VM
11. Execute all these commands:
C:
MD MSDOS
COPY A:\*.* .\MSDOS /v
COPY A:\CONFIG.SYS
COPY A:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
COPY A:\HIMEM.SYS
COPY A:\CD1.SYS
12. Restart your VM and you are ready to go!!


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Old March 27th 15, 11:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Computer Nerd Kev[_2_]
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Default win98se.iso

A good place to look for info on Windows keys is he
http://opensourcerules.info/cdkey.html

Look down the page for keys for stuff before XP. I recommend you save
a local copy of the page and tools you want because it gets taken down
a bit.
 




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