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Old March 13th 14, 12:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Kernel-Ex dont run Firefox properly (now 98, XP, etc.)

In message , 98 Guy writes:
pedro wrote:

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Do you have such little desktop or office space that you can't
allocate a separate keyboard, mouse and monitor to each computer?


No, but it adds clutter that I don't need.


A $75 (new) flat panel monitor, a keyboard ($10 new) and a mouse ($5
new) is - clutter?


What have the prices to do with whether they're clutter or not?
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  #32  
Old March 13th 14, 05:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
pedro
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Default Kernel-Ex dont run Firefox properly (now 98, XP, etc.)

On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:08:49 -0400, 98 Guy "98"@Guy. com wrote:

pedro wrote:

Obviously this is a hobby thing.


Nope

Your SOHO is obviously not dependant
on the operation of this board.


Neither my existence nor livelihood are dependent on it.


The board is not involved in any aspect of the operation, management,
income or revenue stream of your SOHO, and you don't use the board for
leisure or hobby. I don't know what's left. And yet it's important
enough for you to devote time and effort on a technical, ergonomic
solution in a cramped SOHO situation.


You insist on reading too much into this and heading off at a tangent.
While my livelihood isn't dependent on it (as stated) that doesn't
mean it is insignificant. Anyway, whay does what I am doing with it
affect the original question?

How do you know that Kex wasn't installed correctly?

What was it that wasn't behaving?


Don't recall exactly. It was probably two years back.
(Just checked - the folder I d/l-ed into was created Jan 2011.)

renamed old, installed it and some things were "different".
Tried a later version of FF and it didn't work. That's about
all I recall


So you haven't downloaded the most recent version?


The .exe file version I have shows the d/l date as sated above. The
file name is KernelEx-4.5-Final.exe (229,625 bytes). Now if final
doesn't mean final then no I haven't tried the latest version.

The last time you putzed with it was 2 years ago?


Yup. Didn't work so I backed out and got on with life.

(Sometimes I really have to wonder about some people)


I do too.

Download the latest version and run it. When it reboots, it either will
or will not display a message saying that Kex is installed and working.

http://softlayer-dal.dl.sourceforge....elEx-4.5.2.exe

As for Firefox, don't get your hopes up that Kex will make things
better. What I know about that is that some version of FF 3.5 or 3.6 is
the last best version that Kex will allow to run on Win-98 with full
functionality. You will be able to run later versions of FF (I think up
to 15) but anything beyond 3.5 or 3.6 will not have functional bookmarks
or history.

Kex will allow more recent versions of Flash and Java (although Java is
not terribly common for general browsing, but is used for more
interactive websites that have elements with controls such as graphs).
I don't use FF 3.5 because of an issue with while lines being drawn
through graphics as I scroll a page up and down. So I stick with FF
2.0.0.23 and rarely have issues that make it necessary to use another
browser.

For those few sites that give me problems I use Opera 12.02 (which needs
Kex to run).


I put Opera 10.63 on this box a fair while back (as reputedly the
latest that vanilla 98SE would support). It works on some sites but
renders some terribly. I only pull it out when desperate. (No, even
when desperate I wouldn't dream of using IE.)
  #33  
Old March 13th 14, 01:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy[_3_]
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Default Kernel-Ex dont run Firefox properly (now 98, XP, etc.)

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

No, but it adds clutter that I don't need.


A $75 (new) flat panel monitor, a keyboard ($10 new) and a mouse
($5 new) is - clutter?


What have the prices to do with whether they're clutter or not?


In case he was working with old CRT monitors, I was pointing out the
relative cheapness of a new flat panel with a much smaller footprint.

And mini-towers are not really space-savers, as the ability to stack
your monitor on top of a desktop case is something you can't do with a
mini-tower.
  #34  
Old March 13th 14, 01:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy[_3_]
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Default Kernel-Ex dont run Firefox properly (now 98, XP, etc.)

So are you going to try the latest version - and definitively establish
if Kex works on your system?

Or are you going to come back here in a year or two and start this
thread all over again?

http://softlayer-dal.dl.sourceforge....elEx-4.5.2.exe

I put Opera 10.63 on this box a fair while back (as reputedly the
latest that vanilla 98SE would support). It works on some sites but
renders some terribly. I only pull it out when desperate. (No, even
when desperate I wouldn't dream of using IE.)


The Kex you installed 2 years ago is probably working just fine on your
system.

You probably attempted to install some version of FF that was known to
be incompatible with Kex and then assumed that Kex wasn't functional on
your system.

You don't say if you tried to install any other software (such as VLC or
Flash) that would have shown if Kex was or wasn't working for you.

Firefox 3.5/3.6 is a pretty big jump from 2.0 and should make many
websites more viewable compared to 2.0.

Some people claim that Opera 11.64 is more stable than 12.02, but
nonetheless I recommend one or the other over 10.63 once you have
installed the latest KernelEx.

What version of DirectX do you have installed?

If you go Start, Run, and enter "dxdiag", it will tell you what version
you have. It should be 9.0c.

I suggest you read this thread:

http://kernelex.sourceforge.net/2011...ased/#comments

Particularly a post made by "RP" on August 20, 2012.

One thing you may not know about kernelEx is that if it's installed
correctly, when you right-click the properties of any exe or dll file,
you will get a KernelEx compatibility tab where you can change how
KernelEx will handle the file. There are some programs that need to be
set to "Windows 2000" compatibility mode, and some that need to be set
to XP/SP-2 mode.

Some fiddling with getting the correct or a particular version of
MSVCRT.DLL and it's associated registry entries might also be an issue
for some programs.
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Old April 1st 14, 03:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Kernel-Ex dont run Firefox properly

Kernel-Ex Version 4.5.12 says it's intended to run Firefox 8.0.

While FF 8.0 does load, it's crashes almost everytime I close it, and
often when I clear the history (cache, cookies, etc). A few times this
crash locked up the whole computer, which has not happened to me in
years.

Before this, I had the previous version of Kernel-EX, and was running FF
3.0.0.28. That one dont crash, even though that version loads slower
than molasses in January (up to 2 minutes), and recently keeps giving me
problems on some websites, such as "no longer supported" messages on
sites like Youtube. And it also tends to get a lot of script errors
too. But this ver dont crash.

Just for the heck of it, I installed FF 4.x (most recent ver of 4).
Same as ver 8.0. Crashes when closing and sometimes when I clear cache.

I finally just uninstalled all of them and went back to version 3.

Kernel-EX dont seem to work as it claims, at least not for FF. I guess
it's time to start using XP on the internet, there just is no browser
that works in 98 anymore. My old favorite, K-Meleon gets a script error
every 5 minutes, Seamonkey (for 98) is also too old, and i dont use IE.
(it's not even installed). I wont touch Opera with another man's _ick
on the end of a 10 foot pole. I looked into a few others and none are
suited for Win98 anymore.....

I'm not real fond of XP, but I guess the time has come to force myself
to like it.... I know I'll miss W98se.

Hi Tangerine,

I use Kernel-Ex (version?) and FF3.6 for most sites. Some sites, I reboot
my computer and use WinXP and FF14.

Several of my computers have a dual boot system. The hard disk
drive(s) is "split" into two logical drives, C: and D:.

I installed Win98se on C: and the aps I use. Next, I install
WinXP (home edition), but I select "D:" for the destination.
WinXP creates the dual boot system for me as a result.

My WinXP Backup "System".

I disable automatic updates, turn off hibernation and "System Restore".
Note: I also use "Selective Startups" (MSCONFIG) and uncheck non essentials.

I reboot my PC and use Win98. Then I use WinZip (7.0) to "zip" the 3 main
folders in D: which are "WINDOWS", "Program Files", and "Documents and
Settings". The .ZIP files are created in C:\BACKUPS\WINXP folder.
Also, I put those .ZIP files on a USB flash drive.

John





 




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