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Windows ME Networking Problem
Hi,
I am helping my neighbor convert from dial up to SBC DSL. The line was brought up and we installed all the filters in the house. The DSL came with a Speed Strem 4100 modem. This modem looks like a high speed connection to the PC not a broadband connection. We followed all the directions and brought the PC up. The main problem is that after the PC comes up from being powered down and you start IE you are unable to make a connection. If you restart the PC , without powering it off, you are ok until you power off and then you have to do a system restart to get it to work. The PC is running Windows ME and is up to current maintenance. I am running AVG and Zone Alarm. But it fails even if I don't have them up. I took my Speed Strem 5360 from at home and connected it on the ME PC. This uses a broadband connect that uses the program to start and stop the connection sending a ID and Password. Using this configuration IE works just fine. I took their 4100 modem to my house and connected it and it works fine, but I am using windows XP. Any ideas what I need to due to make ME work after a power up. Thanks Rick |
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Is the PC connected by USB or by Ethernet Cable??
AFAICT, the only option on the 4100 is Ethernet - although the almost identical 4200 has a USB option as well That said - and assuming Ethernet connections, there should be no problem at all, since as far as the PC is concerned that router is merely another PC on the local network. If it's not seeing it as such then suspect that DHCP isn't configured properly on the router. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "rick s" wrote in message ... Hi, I am helping my neighbor convert from dial up to SBC DSL. The line was brought up and we installed all the filters in the house. The DSL came with a Speed Strem 4100 modem. This modem looks like a high speed connection to the PC not a broadband connection. We followed all the directions and brought the PC up. The main problem is that after the PC comes up from being powered down and you start IE you are unable to make a connection. If you restart the PC , without powering it off, you are ok until you power off and then you have to do a system restart to get it to work. The PC is running Windows ME and is up to current maintenance. I am running AVG and Zone Alarm. But it fails even if I don't have them up. I took my Speed Strem 5360 from at home and connected it on the ME PC. This uses a broadband connect that uses the program to start and stop the connection sending a ID and Password. Using this configuration IE works just fine. I took their 4100 modem to my house and connected it and it works fine, but I am using windows XP. Any ideas what I need to due to make ME work after a power up. Thanks Rick |
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:28:05 -0800, rick s wrote:
Hi, I am helping my neighbor convert from dial up to SBC DSL. The line was brought up and we installed all the filters in the house. The DSL came with a Speed Strem 4100 modem. This modem looks like a high speed connection to the PC not a broadband connection. We followed all the directions and brought the PC up. The main problem is that after the PC comes up from being powered down and you start IE you are unable to make a connection. If you restart the PC , without powering it off, you are ok until you power off and then you have to do a system restart to get it to work. The PC is running Windows ME and is up to current maintenance. I am running AVG and Zone Alarm. But it fails even if I don't have them up. I took my Speed Strem 5360 from at home and connected it on the ME PC. This uses a broadband connect that uses the program to start and stop the connection sending a ID and Password. Using this configuration IE works just fine. I took their 4100 modem to my house and connected it and it works fine, but I am using windows XP. Any ideas what I need to due to make ME work after a power up. Your SS5360 is a bridged modem. Your neighbor's SS4100 is a bit fancier, being able to initiate a PPPoE login session from the modem. This is not an MSFT thing, but a Siemens/SBC thing. Best place I can think of to help would be he http://www.dslreports.com/forum/ilec,am If there is no router involved, you would either need a connection manager (something like "RASPPPoE") on the computer, or you would connect to the modem using http://192.168.0.1/, and enter the PPPoE log in information on the computer. Either method should work. You will get more details at the site above. Actually, to elaborate a bit, the SBC-issued SS4100 DSL Modem can be accessed from a web browser at: http://192.168.0.1/ For no router: If you don't do anything to this modem out of the box, not even access it via the browser, and just run the SBC provided connection manager (for Windows 98/ME/2K; Windows XP includes a PPPoE connection manager, so don't use a different one), the modem will start up in bridged mode automatically. When you run the connection manager, that will log in the DSL session. The status lights, upon synch, will be: Power - Green Ethernet - Green DSL - Green Internet - Unlit Activity - Flash with data flow In this configuration, the connection is lost when the computer is shut down. If you decide to put the PPPoE login information in the modem, it will initiate the PPPoE login, and you won't need the connection manager on the computer. The modem default is then "PPP is on the modem, use a public IP address". When you start up the modem, after it synchs to the DSLAM, it will initiate the PPPoE login. At this point, the modem will present the public IP address on the Ethernet port; any connected device will pull it when set to obtain an IP address automatically. When a computer is booted, the modem status lights will be: Power - Green Ethernet - Green DSL - Green Internet - Green Activity - Flash with data flow If you change the modem from the default to "PPP is on the modem, use a private IP address", everything will be the same as for passing through the public IP address with one exception; the device will be assigned 192.168.1.64 instead of the public IP address. If you add a router, you would configure the router to obtain an IP address automatically on the WAN side; this is the same choice as a cable customer would use. If you change the router LAN IP address to 192.168.x.1, where 'x' is from '1' to '255', you will be able to access the modem configuration pages in a web browser through the router. Any applications requiring that unsolicited packets be accepted from the Internet will see this rig as a "cascaded NAT" (or, by popular terminology, "double NAT"). One important note needs to be stressed; if the modem is running in NAT mode, it _will_ pass all unsolicited packets through without doing some non-supported trickery. This is a modem, which uses DHCP to assign an IP address (as in _ONE_ IP address); whether it is the public IP address, or the NAT IP address 192.168.1.64, there is _NO_ firewall. No packet filtering. No SPI. You are as exposed as if this were a bridged modem! And there is no way to change either the modem IP address (192.168.0.1), or the private IP address assigned by the DHCP server (192.168.1.64). -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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"N. Miller" wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:28:05 -0800, rick s wrote: Hi, I am helping my neighbor convert from dial up to SBC DSL. The line was brought up and we installed all the filters in the house. The DSL came with a Speed Strem 4100 modem. This modem looks like a high speed connection to the PC not a broadband connection. We followed all the directions and brought the PC up. The main problem is that after the PC comes up from being powered down and you start IE you are unable to make a connection. If you restart the PC , without powering it off, you are ok until you power off and then you have to do a system restart to get it to work. The PC is running Windows ME and is up to current maintenance. I am running AVG and Zone Alarm. But it fails even if I don't have them up. I took my Speed Strem 5360 from at home and connected it on the ME PC. This uses a broadband connect that uses the program to start and stop the connection sending a ID and Password. Using this configuration IE works just fine. I took their 4100 modem to my house and connected it and it works fine, but I am using windows XP. Any ideas what I need to due to make ME work after a power up. Your SS5360 is a bridged modem. Your neighbor's SS4100 is a bit fancier, being able to initiate a PPPoE login session from the modem. This is not an MSFT thing, but a Siemens/SBC thing. Best place I can think of to help would be he http://www.dslreports.com/forum/ilec,am If there is no router involved, you would either need a connection manager (something like "RASPPPoE") on the computer, or you would connect to the modem using http://192.168.0.1/, and enter the PPPoE log in information on the computer. Either method should work. You will get more details at the site above. Actually, to elaborate a bit, the SBC-issued SS4100 DSL Modem can be accessed from a web browser at: http://192.168.0.1/ For no router: If you don't do anything to this modem out of the box, not even access it via the browser, and just run the SBC provided connection manager (for Windows 98/ME/2K; Windows XP includes a PPPoE connection manager, so don't use a different one), the modem will start up in bridged mode automatically. When you run the connection manager, that will log in the DSL session. The status lights, upon synch, will be: Power - Green Ethernet - Green DSL - Green Internet - Unlit Activity - Flash with data flow In this configuration, the connection is lost when the computer is shut down. If you decide to put the PPPoE login information in the modem, it will initiate the PPPoE login, and you won't need the connection manager on the computer. The modem default is then "PPP is on the modem, use a public IP address". When you start up the modem, after it synchs to the DSLAM, it will initiate the PPPoE login. At this point, the modem will present the public IP address on the Ethernet port; any connected device will pull it when set to obtain an IP address automatically. When a computer is booted, the modem status lights will be: Power - Green Ethernet - Green DSL - Green Internet - Green Activity - Flash with data flow If you change the modem from the default to "PPP is on the modem, use a private IP address", everything will be the same as for passing through the public IP address with one exception; the device will be assigned 192.168.1.64 instead of the public IP address. If you add a router, you would configure the router to obtain an IP address automatically on the WAN side; this is the same choice as a cable customer would use. If you change the router LAN IP address to 192.168.x.1, where 'x' is from '1' to '255', you will be able to access the modem configuration pages in a web browser through the router. Any applications requiring that unsolicited packets be accepted from the Internet will see this rig as a "cascaded NAT" (or, by popular terminology, "double NAT"). One important note needs to be stressed; if the modem is running in NAT mode, it _will_ pass all unsolicited packets through without doing some non-supported trickery. This is a modem, which uses DHCP to assign an IP address (as in _ONE_ IP address); whether it is the public IP address, or the NAT IP address 192.168.1.64, there is _NO_ firewall. No packet filtering. No SPI. You are as exposed as if this were a bridged modem! And there is no way to change either the modem IP address (192.168.0.1), or the private IP address assigned by the DHCP server (192.168.1.64). -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum I would like to thank you for the information you sent. I took the 4100 modem back to my neighbors house and put it on the PC with Windows Me on it. I powered up the modem and hit the reset button on the back which set it up to have the PPP on the host. I installed the SBC DSL start program. Life was great I was able to power off and on the PC and have everything work just great. Then I went in 192.168.0.1 and added my login in and password. I also chanaged the PPP to the modem. My connection came up and I was able to use IE and check AVG for updates and check Zone Alarm for updates. I restarted the PC using option restart and everything still worked. Then I powered off the PC using a shut down. The PC powered off ok. When I powered the PC back up everything came up OK. I was able to check for updates for AVG and Zone Alarm. I hit the Icon for IE and nothing happened. I tried it a few times and then I did a cntrl / alt / del all my explore sessions were showing no response. I ended each one and system went back to the white wall paper asking if I wanted to reload the wallpaper. I did and the PC went back to normal. I did a restart and everything worked fine. Shut it down and brought it back up to same problem. This does not make sense. So to say the least I moved everthing back to PPP on the host. Any ideas? Thanks again, Rick |
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Get rid of the Active Desktop - it causes nothing but trouble!
If you want pretty pictures on the desktop, save them as .BMP files, and try using them. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "rick s" wrote in message ... I would like to thank you for the information you sent. I took the 4100 modem back to my neighbors house and put it on the PC with Windows Me on it. I powered up the modem and hit the reset button on the back which set it up to have the PPP on the host. I installed the SBC DSL start program. Life was great I was able to power off and on the PC and have everything work just great. Then I went in 192.168.0.1 and added my login in and password. I also chanaged the PPP to the modem. My connection came up and I was able to use IE and check AVG for updates and check Zone Alarm for updates. I restarted the PC using option restart and everything still worked. Then I powered off the PC using a shut down. The PC powered off ok. When I powered the PC back up everything came up OK. I was able to check for updates for AVG and Zone Alarm. I hit the Icon for IE and nothing happened. I tried it a few times and then I did a cntrl / alt / del all my explore sessions were showing no response. I ended each one and system went back to the white wall paper asking if I wanted to reload the wallpaper. I did and the PC went back to normal. I did a restart and everything worked fine. Shut it down and brought it back up to same problem. This does not make sense. So to say the least I moved everthing back to PPP on the host. Any ideas? Thanks again, Rick |
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